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Okay, so - there are two episode list articles for this series, [[Episodes of The O.C.]] and [[O.C. Episodes]]. This article has more information, so any extra stuff in the other one needs to be copied across, and then "O.C. Episodes" needs to be deleted. I have no knowledge of this programme so i cant really do it myself. I think this one then needs to be renamed to "List of The O.C. episodes" as its a more conventional name for episode lists (which i cant do because theres already a redirect page there). -- <span style="border:1px solid #ccc;background:#eee; padding:1px">[[User:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#333;font-weight:bold">jeffthejiff</span>]]</span> <span style="font-size:80%;color:#999">([[User_talk:Jeffthejiff|<span style="color:#999;">talk</span>]])</span> 15:04, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
| Name = Tim Armstrong
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| Birth_name = Timothy Lockwood Armstrong
| Alias = Lint
| Born = {{Birth date and age|1966|11|25}}<br><small>[[Oakland, California|Oakland]], [[California]], [[USA]]</small>
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| Origin = [[Berkeley, California|Berkeley]], [[California]], [[USA]]
| Instrument = Guitar, Vocals
| Genre = [[Punk rock]], [[Ska-punk]]
| Occupation = Musician, Songwriter, Producer
| Years_active = 1984 - Present
| Label = [[Hellcat Records|Hellcat]], [[Epitaph Records|Epitaph]], [[Warner Bros. Records|Warner Bros.]]
| Associated_acts = [[Rancid]]<br>[[Transplants]]<br>[[Operation Ivy]]<br>[[Dance Hall Crashers]]<br>[[Downfall (band)|Downfall]]
| URL = [http://www.rancidrancid.com/ Rancid site]
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I realise people are spending a lot of time on this page; it's good work. I don't want to interupt and mess up your work. However, is there any way someone could put per-series episode numbers in here? It would probably be more useful than the overall episode number in most cases. For example; "s03e17" as well as "68".--[[User:CalPaterson|CalPaterson]] 21:40, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
'''Tim Armstrong''' is an [[United States|American]] musician best known for his work with [[punk rock]] bands [[Rancid (band)|Rancid]], [[Operation Ivy (band)|Operation Ivy]], and [[Transplants]], as well as his record label [[Hellcat Records]].
 
I agree with Cal on the S(season)E(episode #) idea. I also think that we should create a suitable template and start making episode articles.--[[User:Rikkyc|Rikkyc]] 03:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
==Biography==
===Personal life===
Tim was born in Oakland, November 25 in 1966, son to an alcoholic father, hardworking mother and the youngest of three brothers.
 
I have added the merge tag to [[The O.C. episode plotlines]] and after a few days, if I have no arguments, I will just use the content from this article and redirect that one to this. [[User:Masterpjz9|Masterpjz9]] 00:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
As a young kid, Tim met his future band mate and one of his best friends, [[Matt Freeman]] (current bass player for Rancid) playing Little League Baseball in California at age 6. Tim and Matt grew up together in Albany, California and as a young punk in high school, Tim's favorite band was the [[Ramones]]. Tim quotes in Maximum Rancid - The Unauthorized Biography Of Rancid, that if it wasn't for the Ramones, Rancid would have never become a band. He was in the punk/ska band Operation Ivy from their beginning in 1987 under the nickname "Lint". Operation Ivy continued until its demise in 1989. He then founded two relatively unsuccessful bands called the [[Dance Hall Crashers]] and [[Downfall]] but later went on to greater fame with the very successful [[Rancid (band)|Rancid]], founded in 1991. For a long time, Tim was very active in the Berkeley scene that grew up around 924 Gilman Street. He showcased his other artistic talents and created artwork for the [[INSAINTS]] logo. Tim married [[Brody Dalle]] of [[The Distillers]] in 1997. They divorced in 2003.
:[[The O.C. episode plotlines]] has been merged with this one and redirected here. There was no info from the other page that I found would be useful here. [[User:Masterpjz9|Masterpjz9]] 12:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
In 2003, photographs of Armstrong's ex-wife Brody Dalle kissing [[Queens of the Stone Age]] frontman [[Josh Homme]] were published in Rolling Stone Magazine. Armstrong claims he knew nothing of Dalle's relationship with Homme said he broke down when he saw the photos. Dalle and Homme married after the birth of their daughter, Camille Harley Homme in 2006.
Armstrong has accused Dalle and Homme of adultery, and Homme received a series of death threats from Armstrong's fans. The conflict has divided L.A.'s punk rock microcosm.
 
===MusicalSeason history=3==
Anyone know when/what the last epsiode is ? --[[User:DragonWR12LB|DragonWR12LB]] 04:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
One of the first bands that Tim played in was [[Basic radio|Basic Radio]]. After Basic Radio disbanded, he performed in the [[ska punk]] band [[Operation Ivy (band)|Operation Ivy]] under the nickname "Lint" from their beginning in 1987, until they disbanded in 1989. Soon thereafter, Armstrong helped found the [[Dance Hall Crashers]], but left the band after a brief period of time. He was also in [[Downfall (band)|Downfall]] with [[Matt Freeman]].
:Maybe you should read the article? The final episode is on May 18. Also, Wikipedians don't like people discussing an article's subject on its Talk Page. The Talk Page is only for discussing the article itself. --[[User:Fozi999|Fozi999]] 15:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
In 1991 Armstrong went on to greater fame with the very successful [[Rancid (band)|Rancid]] with bassist [[Matt Freeman]] (who had previously played with Tim in Operation Ivy, Downfall, and Dancehall Crashers). [[Brett Reed]] was only a local skate punk who had been playing drums for six months when Tim and Matt asked him to be in the band.
::I did read the article also what the hell is the point of even having an article if you don't discuss the issue? --[[User:DragonWR12LB|DragonWR12LB]] 02:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 
==Season 4==
In 1999 Tim invited [[Rob Aston]] ("Skinhead Rob") around to work on some music he had been creating by himself in his basebent, the two worked together writing and recording music, later
Should season 4 episodes start being included in the list? Seeing as they haven't aired and rumours still surround the plot, possibly making the episode summaries lack factual accuracy -- [[User:Ryan2807|Ryan2807]] 18:02 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[[Travis Barker]] (of [[blink-182]] fame) formed the band [[Transplants]] and released their self-titled debut album, Transplants on October 22, 2002. Also in 2002, Armstrong contributed vocals to Tom Delonge's (also of blink-182 fame) side project entitled Boxcar Racer, on the track "Cat Like Thief".
:The current text doesnt really spoil anything and is sourced from a reliable source. It also does not reveal much. It has been okay in other Lists.. so it should be o.k here. <font face="Tahoma" size="1"><small>[[User:MatthewFenton|'''<font color="#000000">Matthew Fenton</font>''']] ([[User_talk:MatthewFenton|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|Contribs]])</small></font> 18:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
A second Transplants album, Haunted Cities, was released on June 21, 2005. The band's demise was confirmed by Rob Aston on January 16, 2006, when he told a reporter that the band had split.
 
::I still don't think season 4 episodes should be added yet. [[User:Iorek85|Iorek85]] made a good point on the talk page of the main [[Talk:The_O.C.#.22Spoilers.22_for_season_4|O.C.]] article by stating that the source of the season 4 spoilers isn't even appropriate for Wikipedia and that verifiable facts and viewpoints should be presented, not unconfirmed rumours, and especially not as fact. Furthermore, stressing the fact that [[WP:Not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball|Wikipedia is not a crystal ball]]. Therefore I think the season 4 episodes should be removed from this article for now, until the season 4 episodes have aired, only then when all the facts be known. -- [[User:Ryan2807|Ryan2807]] 13:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Tim co-wrote 8 songs with [[Pink]] for her 2003 album Try This, he has also collaborated with [[Gwen Stefani]] on her debut album Love. Angel. Music. Baby.
:Reveretd and isnerted {Future television}. <font face="Tahoma">[[User:MatthewFenton|{{{2|MatthewFenton}}}]] ([[User talk:MatthewFenton|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|contribs]])</font> 13:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
::What was the reliable source? FOX is a reliable source, but none of the fansites or spoiler sites are. The titles for the eps are fine, they seemed to be accurate enough last season, but the details are just rumour, unless, as the template says, they came from interviews or preview clips. (Even then, it's kinda murky; This is Wikipedia, afterall, not TV.com... [[User:Iorek85|Iorek85]] 23:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
 
== Individual Episode Pages ==
In addition to his projects, Armstrong has also been known to pop up on others' albums in various roles. He's contributed vocals/guitar to tracks by bands including [[The Lordz]], [[Box Car Racer]], [[Bad Religion]], [[Stubborn All-Stars]], [[Head Automatica]], [[Fefe Dobson]], [[The Matches]], [[NOFX]], [[Time Again]] and [[Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards]], which is a side-project of his Rancid bandmate [[Lars Frederiksen]]. He's collaborated with [[P!nk]], [[the Aggrolites]], [[Gwen Stefani]] and [[Kelly Osbourne]]. He has also produced several albums, including the first album by [[AFI (band)|AFI]], ''[[Answer That and Stay Fashionable]]'' (1995), ''[[Viking (album)|Viking]]'' by [[Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards]] and a few tracks from [[Decomposer (album)|Decomposer]] by [[the Matches]].
 
Everyone of the episode pages needs work. There are no cites, extended plots, and information that is best left out all together. Whoever is monitoring this page and those pages should read this [[Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes]]. This is the policy created to establish guidelines for episode pages. If you do not have well referenced material try developing Seasonal pages until you do. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 12:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
===Recent history===
Armstrong is still very active in the [[Berkeley, California|Berkeley]] scene that grew up around [[924 Gilman Street]]. He has showcased his other artistic talents and created artwork for the [[INSAINTS]] logo. A [[Rancid's seventh studio album|new album]] by Rancid is set for an early 2007 release. He has also done a solo album entitled ''[[A Poet's Life]]'', of which fans can download a few tracks for free on the internet. He has released two songs, and has so far released 3 [[music video]]s. In late December 2006, [[The Aggrolites]] issued a bulletin from their myspace page that the album would be available in March 2007, but this did not come to pass. After much airplay of the song "Into Action" (featuring [[Skye Sweetnam]] on guest vocals), it was decided to release [[A Poet's Life]] as a CD with a bonus DVD containing video clips for each song from the 22th May.
Rancid's song "Sidekick" was also featured in a pornographic film entitled "Fuck the System".
 
== To do.. ==
Tim Armstrong also has a spiderweb tattoo covering his whole head.
 
We need to convert all episode images to wide-screen. We should consider converting to {{tl|Episode list}} and getting all episode summaries down to 2 lines maximum.. keeping longer synopses to the individual pages. <small>[[User:MatthewFenton|Matthew Fenton]]&nbsp;([[User talk:MatthewFenton|talk]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|contribs]])</small> 16:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
An extract taken from hell-cat record's website about the solo album -
: What's the best way of converting all the images to wide-screen? I've got ALL the episodes on DVD, so I can do it, but I need to know how big the wide-screen images should be and how I should add them to the article (should I just replace the existing images?) [[User:Jayden54|Jayden54]] 16:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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:If you have them on DVD that's great - the best way is to upload a new version over the present (click the image and scroll to the bottom) - Generally when getting images I resize to 66.77% of the original (thats around the size of most of these/the season 4 ones) - ones that need doing are: [[:Image:OC-101.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-103.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-112a.JPG]], [[:Image:OC-111.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-210.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-215.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-223.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-304.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-305.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-307.jpg]], [[:Image:OC-309.JPG]], [[:Image:OC-310.JPG]] - All the others should be a'okay - When all synopsises are trimmed down and the tables are converted it should start looking pretty good :) - Hoepfully ill be able to do some work converting them soon. <small>[[User:MatthewFenton|Matthew Fenton]]&nbsp;([[User talk:MatthewFenton|talk]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|contribs]])</small> 17:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:: I've just uploaded a new version of [[:Image:OC-210.jpg]], let me if that's what you want, and I'll do the others, except for season 1, because I don't have the wide-screen version of that (only the regular 720x480 version). [[User:Jayden54|Jayden54]] 15:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
::: That looks awesome :-) <small>[[User:MatthewFenton|Matthew Fenton]]&nbsp;([[User talk:MatthewFenton|talk]]&nbsp;<small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|contribs]])</small> 15:23, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I have spent the past few hours converting the article to {{tl|Episode list}}. If possible could someone please find a 720x480 pixel image for each of the screenshots, as that would suit the new layout very well. Also could all the episode summaries be shrunk down to 3 lines. Thanks. [[User:Stickeylabel|Stickeylabel]] 01:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:I have spent a further few hours adding new screenshots for the majority of episodes in 720x480 resolution. There are a few screenshots however, of which I cannot find a suitable replacement for. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Stickeylabel|Stickeylabel]] 05:28, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
==Episode Title Errors==
''Punk legend Tim Armstrong has announced plans to give his debut solo album, A Poet's Life, away for free on the internet beginning April 17th. Each Tuesday fans are encouraged to hunt down new songs and videos that will be made available for download on various blogs, sites and social networks. Additionally the album will also be available for sale on May 22nd with a bonus DVD containing 10 new videos.
 
A lot of the episode titles aren't what they should be. It seems like whoever named them tried to sum up the plot of the episode, and they didn't use the actual episode title given by Fox or whoever names these episodes.
Never a stranger to having his music suddenly and widely embraced, as evidenced by the hit songs Armstrong has created for both Rancid and his side-project the Transplants, by March it was clear that the iconic singer/songwriter had another bona fide hit with the track "Into Action." The undeniably catchy dance song became a instant favorite of fans and critics alike, with support from everyone from Myspace users to the influential LA radio stations KROQ and Indie 103.1. Continuing to sweep the nation with its infectious groove, "Into Action" is guaranteed to be blasting from every car stereo and beach boom box this summer.
I fixed it.[[User:Seeninator|Seeninator]] 07:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Title of episode 2.13 ==
Be the first one to find hot new songs and videos each Tuesday!
 
[[User:Adelyna|Adelyna]] and I have been in a minor dispute lately about the name of episode 2.13 which I believe is called "The Test", and Adelyna believes it's called "The Father Knows Best". [http://www.fox.com/oc/recaps/213.htm According to the official website] it's called "The Test", so I'm almost certain I'm right, but Adelyna claims that the DVD of the second season lists it as "The Father Knows Best", but I can't verify this since I don't have the DVD myself. For now I've reverted all of Adelyna's actions, and will continue to do so under the assumption that it's called "The Test" (which would make more sense considering the plot of that episode). Cheers, [[User:Jayden54|Jayden54]] 07:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Track Listing:
 
:I just did a quick Google check, and it appears that the episode is called "The Father Knows Best" on the DVD (see [http://www.amazon.com/O-C-Complete-Second-Season/dp/B0009K7QZ8]), but I think we should stick we the original title, which is also listed on the official website. [[User:Jayden54|Jayden54]] 07:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
1. "Wake Up"
::Press release has it down as "[http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings.aspx?id=20050127fox14 The Test]". [[User:Matthew|Matthew]] 07:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
2. "Hold On"
3. "Into Action"
4. "Translator"
5. "Take This City"
6. "Inner City Violence"
7. "Oh No"
8. "Lady Demeter"
9. "Among The Dead"
10. "Cold Blooded" ''
 
==Single episodes==
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I plan on redirecting these per [[WP:EPISODE]] soon. Information from multiple secondary sources must be present for a single episode to need an article. This includes reception and development. Single plot summaries and trivia don't make a substantial article. I suggest [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia Wikia] and [http://www.tv.com/ tv.com] as alternate venues for this information. [[User:TTN|TTN]] 21:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 
== Episode naming ==
==Discography==
===Operation Ivy===
* ''[[Hectic]]'' EP (1988) &ndash; (credited as Lint) guitar and backing vocals on entire album
* ''[[Energy (album)|Energy]]'' (1989, 1991) &ndash; (credited as Lint) guitar and backing vocals on entire album
* ''[[Seedy (album)|Seedy]]'' (1996) &ndash; (credited as Lint) guitar and backing vocals on entire album
 
I noticed the episodes that need to be disambiguated from other things have the extension ''(The O.C. episode)'' rather than the conventional just ''(The O.C.)''. I would like to move all of the episodes to conform to the [[WP:TV-NC]] standards, but want to make sure I am doing the right thing and that this isn't a special exemption like for ''[[The Simpsons]]'' episode articles. Let me know. '''<font color="FF4500">[[User:Bmitchelf|bmitchelf]]</font>'''•[[User talk:Bmitchelf|T]]•'''''<font color="FF0000">[[User:Bmitchelf/Favorites|F]]</font>''''' 05:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
===Downfall===
* Although no records by [[Downfall (band)|Downfall]] exist, the band did release a demo and a couple songs. It should be noted that Tim and Freeman started the band. They were featured on a compilation "Can Of Pork" with a song called "North Berkeley" [http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1243976/a/Can+Of+Pork.htm].
 
===Rancid===
* ''[[Rancid (1993 album)|Rancid]]'' (1993) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Let's Go (album)|Let's Go]]'' (1994) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[...And Out Come the Wolves]]'' (1995) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Life Won't Wait]]'' (1998) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Rancid (2000 album)|Rancid]]'' (2000) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[BYO Split Series, Vol. 3]]'' (2002) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Indestructible]]'' (2003) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Rancid's seventh studio album|TBA]]'' (2007) &ndash; (presumably) guitars and vocals
 
===Transplants===
* ''[[Transplants (album)|Transplants]]'' (2002) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Haunted Cities]]'' (2005) &ndash; guitars and vocals
* ''[[Haunted Cities: Screwed and Chopped]]'' (2005) &ndash; guitars and vocals
 
===Solo albums===
* ''[[A Poet's Life]]'' (2007) &ndash; guitars and vocals
 
===Produced albums===
* ''[[Answer That and Stay Fashionable]]'' (1995) by [[AFI (band)|AFI]]
* ''[[At Ease]]''(1997) by [[The Gadjits]]
* ''[[F-Minus]]''(2000) by [[F-Minus]]
* ''[[Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards (album)|Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards]]'' (2001) by [[Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards]]
* ''[[Try This]]'' (2003) by [[P!nk]]
* ''[[Viking]]'' (2004) by Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards
* ''[[The Stories Are True]]'' (2006) by [[Time Again]]
* ''[[Decomposer]]''(2006) by [[The Matches]]
 
===Other===
The following is a list of songs that Armstrong has appeared on where he was not a member of the band.
*"Love Is A Many Splendored Thing" by [[AFI (band)|AFI]]
*"Television" by [[Bad Religion]] from ''[[Stranger Than Fiction (album)|Stranger Than Fiction]]''
*"[[53rd & 3rd]]" by the [[Ramones]] from "[[We're Outta Here]]
*"Gotta Go" by [[Agnostic Front]] from ''Something's Gotta Give''
*"Faster Than The World" by [[H2O]] from ''[[F.T.T.W.]]''
*"Fearful" by [[The Specials]] from ''Guilty 'Til Proved Innocent!''
*"Pick Yourself Up" by [[Stubborn All-Stars]]
*"Policeman" by [[The Silencers]] from [[Give Em' the Boot 1]]
*"Tree City, USA" by [[Vic Ruggiero]] solo work from his debut album
*"Tomorrow Burns" by [[F-Minus]] from their debut album
*"Werecat" and "Moonlite Dreams" by [[Tiger Army]] from ''Tiger Army''
*"The Stories Are True" by [[Time Again]] from their debut album
*"Cat Like Thief" by [[Box Car Racer]] from ''[[Boxcar Racer (album)|Box Car Racer]]
*"What's Your Number" by [[Cypress Hill]]
*"Dance Party Plus" by [[Head Automatica]] off of "''Decadence"''
*"You (Don't) Know Me" by [[The Matches]] from ''Decomposer''
*"My Life To Live" by [[Lars Frederiksen and the Bastards]] from [[Viking (Album)|''Viking'']]
*"City To City" by [[Left Alone]] from ''[[Dead American Radio]]''
*"Travelin' Band" (guitar solo) by [[The Heart Attacks]] from ''Hellbound and Heartless''
*"[[Outlaw]]" by "[[The Lordz]]"
*"It All Makes a Lot Less Sense Now" by [[7 Seconds]] from the 1988 album "Soulforce Revolution"
 
==Filmography==
* [[Live Freaky! Die Freaky!]] (2003) Producer and Narrator
* [[The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things]] (2004) Actor
* [[Give 'Em the Boot]] (2005) Producer
 
==Guitars and Amplification==
*On Rancid's first album, Armstrong recorded with a [[Gibson SG]] through a [[Marshall Amplification|Marshall]]
*With Let's Go, the same SG was used along with his custom-built [[Hagstrom]] Viking through the Marshall
*On AOCTW, he used a Epiphone Les Paul along with a [[Fender Stratocaster]]
*By Life Won't Wait Armstrong used various guitars, such as the Hagstrom, [[Gibson Les Paul]], Fender Stratocaster, and a 1974 [[Gretsch]] Country Club
*On Rancid (2000) he switched to a [[Mesa Boogie]] amp and used the Hagstrom and the [[Gretsch]] Country Club
*Currently Armstrong is using his Country Club and a [[Schecter]] S-1 which he started using since the Transplants released their second album, [[Haunted Cities]]
 
==Conflicts==
Armstrong have had quite a few conflicts with other bands over the recent years.
 
*[[The Queers]] mentioned Tim Armstrong in their song ''Rancid Motherfucker''.
*[[Leftover Crack]] have had disputes with Tim Armstrong & many other artists on his label [[Hellcat Records]] over censorship issues and accusing them of being homophobic.
 
==External links==
* [http://www.rancidrancid.com Rancid Official Website]
* [http://www.punknews.org/bands/timarmstrong Punknews.org Tim Armstrong Biography]
 
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