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'''''Salammbô''''' is an [[opera]] in four acts composed by [[Ernest Reyer]] to a [[French language|French]] [[libretto]] by [[Camille du Locle]]. It is based on the novel ''[[Salammbô (novel)|Salammbô]]'' by [[Gustave Flaubert]]. The opera was first performed at the [[La Monnaie|Théâtre Royal de la Monnaie]] in [[Brussels]] on [[February 10]] [[1890]]. It debuted at the [[Metropolitan Opera]] in [[New York City]] on [[March 20]], [[1901]].
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==Characters==
*Salammbô (Soprano), Hamilcar's daughter
*Shahabarim (Tenor), High Priest of Tanit
*Narr'Havas (Basse chantante), King of Numidia
*Giscon (Bass), Carthaginian general
*Mathô (Tenor), Lybian mercenary
*Hamilcar (Baritone), Carthaginian Suffete
*Spendius (Baritone), Greek slave
*Autharite (Bass), Gaulish mercenary
*Taanach (Mezzo-soprano), Salammbo's servant
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==Other opera adaptations==
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In [[1863]], [[Modest Mussorgsky]] also started writing text and music for an opera based on Flaubert's novel, but he never managed to complete the work.
For the film score of [[Orson Welles]]' ''[[Citizen Kane]]'', [[Bernard Herrmann]] wrote an aria for the fictional opera ''Salammbô'' performed by Kane's wife.
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Contemporary French composer [[Philippe Fénélon]]'s ''Salammbô'' was first performed in the [[Opéra Bastille]] in [[1998]].
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=== June 3 ===
====[[The Sims Makin' Magic]]====
*Delete. Doesn't add anything. The expansions should be left to [[The Sims]] page and don't need their own pages. [[User talk:Saopaulo1|Saopaulo1]]
*Keep. I'd like to see enough info on these expansions to warrant individual articles. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 04:44, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*<s>Keep. This is valid; I believe there's a precedent such as with the expansions for the games in the [[Age of Empires]] series.</s> [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] 05:01, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Possibly create a page for all ''The Sims'' expansions, and redirect to there, or simply redirect to '''The Sims''' itself. Age of Empires is not actually a precident, no page has actually been created for an expansion in that series. The other pages are actual sequels and separate games. Game expansions add so little in terms of functionality and story to games that they should not be separated out in Wikipedia. This reflects a disturbing trend in Wikipedia in general to over-separate small articles. I hope I don't sound unnappreciative to the dedication some have made to creating these pages, because the information itself is certainly important. However, navigation of Wikipedia becomes tougher on the user when content is over-separated. As I stated at the start, perhaps in a game like ''The Sims'' case, a single page could be dedicated to all of its expansions with redirects for the individual names. [[User:Siroxo|siroxo]] 15:52, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
**Hm...you're right. My bad. Withdrawing my vote. I '''do not''' vote delete, however. Several expansion packs for the Sims have added a lot of features not available in the original - for example, more neighbourhoods. I do not own this expansion pack and thus am not fit to judge; however, other expansion packs have indeed radically changed gameplay, perhaps with the exception of House Party. I am not averse to putting all expansion packs on one page, but I do believe it would be rather large and cumbersome. Who can tell? Anyway, I am neutral for now. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] 16:02, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Since you cannot use this pack without the original Sims game, it shouldn't have an article to itself. [[User:Average Earthman|Average Earthman]] 17:07, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Expansions to a game are encyclopedic, assuming they meet other criteria. Agree with Everyking. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 20:18, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Merge and redirect. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 20:22, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Merge and redirect. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 21:12, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* If there were enough content there could be an article. But right now there isn't, so this should be just a mention at [[The Sims]]. [[User:Thue|Thue]] 22:23, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Merge and redirect -- [[User:Stevietheman|Stevietheman]] 03:35, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Another one for the fan sites. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 05:26, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**I don't think your faith in fan sites is very well-placed, personally. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 06:48, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Nothing inherently wrong about having a page for this, but this page has very little content, and the other add-on packs are not listed... so I say delete unless there becomes enough content to justify it. ([[User:StuartH|StuartH]] 09:07, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC))
====[[Yucca Valley High School]]====
Not notable. Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] 05:15, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 17:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, important to thousands of people. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 05:26, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, only public high school in [[Yucca Valley, California]] so it is very important
*'''Keep''' - [[User:Topbanana|TB]] 06:03, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Add it to [[Moronogo Unified School District]], that way the other high schools in the district can all be on the same page. The district has Twentynine Palms High School, and other continuation schools. [http://http://www.morongo.k12.ca.us/ourschools.html][[User:Saopaulo1|Saopaulo1]]
*Merge with other such schools. [[User:Chameleon|Chameleon]] 10:50, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Either add some historical or cultural significance or '''delete'''. We don't have space for every high school around the globe. Famous alumni don't count.--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 11:05, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' Put your thoughts in at [[WP:WIWO]] in the Schools section. I have no idea whether there is now, ever was, or ever will be consensus on articles on not-very-notable secondary schools, but ''let's try to find out.'' [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:00, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: I live in the area. The school is anything but notable. Withholding vote until we figure out what to do with these. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 15:55, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. What's encyclopedic about an ordinary high school? -- [[User:Stevietheman|Stevietheman]] 03:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I like the idea of adding it to [[Morongo Unified School District]]. [[User: Elpenmaster]]
*Delete. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 17:55, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep - I do a lot of work with education, and would like to see more entries for various schools. [[User:Voyager640|Voyager640]] 04:40, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[CustomizedGirl]] ====
Spam ad, methinks. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 16:50, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:(added note) The second paragraph of the original version was also a copyvio.[[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 17:13, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 16:58, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Its a legitimate company. 16:59, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) (anon IP)
** Vote was by author of page. [[User:66.151.49.196]] [[User talk:66.151.49.196]] [[special:contributions/66.151.49.196|contribs]].
*Delete - vanity/advert - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 17:05, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete this advert. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 17:10, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - blatant advert. [[User:Wfeidt|Bill]] 19:25, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Ad, site won't even load for me. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 20:11, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, advert. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 03:31, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[Andy Hagans]] ====
Classic vanity by [[User:66.151.49.196]] [[User talk:66.151.49.196]] [[special:contributions/66.151.49.196|contribs]] again. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 17:14, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: From the same stable as [[Tim Hagans]] and [[Jimmy Atkinson]] [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 17:41, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - Andy's only claim to fame is that he is the roommate of Jimmy. Jimmy's only claim to fame is that he is the roommate of Andy. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:25, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, vanity. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:55, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Forest Temple]]====
*<s>Besides saying that it is a maze in a game, a fact which on its own isn't worthy of a separate article, this article contains nothing but opinions</s>. - [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 17:36, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Support keeping now. It's not much of an article, but on reconsideration I believe this now-NPOV stub could grow into a real article. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 20:04, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''delete'''--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 18:28, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*It almost reads like a review in a gamer magazine. Delete. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 19:14, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, I'll work on it a bit. The temples are linked from the [[Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time]] article, and I think a complete description of each temple would be too much for one article, considering that the article is already fairly large. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 19:15, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Subtrivial pseudoinformation. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 05:20, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**It's not subtrivial and it's not pseudoinformation. The game is of cultural note and therefore deserves to be properly covered. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 06:40, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Agree with Fredrik. This could grow. Keep. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 22:52, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Raw]]====
Dictionary definition. - [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 18:14, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''delete'''--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 18:30, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect to [[Monday Night Raw]] or [[WWE Raw]] or whatever that wrestling show is called. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 20:49, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''K'''eep. Turned into disambiguation page. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 08:34, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
====[[Springfield Paradox]]====
Non-notable, trivial, non-encyclopedic crap. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 19:45, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - nonsense - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 19:49, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete -- but possible BJAODN candidate [[User:Dukeofomnium|Dukeofomnium]] 19:57, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**I don't really think it's THAT funny. Just pretty stupid. That's my 2¢. Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 20:24, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Not even funny. Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 20:37, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Ha, ha. Send it packing. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 23:16, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, and smack the author. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 02:24, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: the funny thing is that this is a joke told by a stand-up comic as part of his routine, and someone liked that joke enough to think it deserved an encyclopedia entry.
*'''Uh maybe all of you people shuold stop bashing these articles and actually see that this is a theory developed by some people in the Flat Earth Society. I mean you're supposed to consider all opinions and theories and that's what an encyclopedia is for right? See the references on the page and you'll learn it's encyclopedic.'''[[User:Soilguy5|The ONE and ONLY SOILGUY]] 16:18, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::In my opinion no, that's not what an encyclopedia is for. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:18, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**I know that this is a theory developed by the Flat Earth Society at flat-earth.org. Unfortunately, it's probably a joke, seeing as the head of the Society calls himself "Lee Harvey Oswald Smith, Chairman Dei Gratia (by the grace of God)". Plus the "springfield paradox" is a blatant joke and/or exercise in surrealism. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 23:34, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Soilguy,If it were a better article, it could be argued to keep it, however in its current state it does not merit its own page [[User:Siroxo|siroxo]] 02:21, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
***No encyclopedia-worthy article could be written on the subject. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 19:14, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Be careful that when this is deleted that all references to it are deleted from articles such as [[Springfield]]. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 22:03, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**''Delete''. I have deleted that link to it. — [[User:Chameleon|Chameleon]] 22:15, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Russco|Russco]] 12:41, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I dont know how big of an article can be made of that subject. i say that it should be kept if and only if it can be expanded significantly, to include origin, details, etc. . . [[Elpenmaster]]
====[[The Beaver]]====
*Delete - vanity - student newspaper and current staff names (staff names removed after VfD listing - only a couple lines about the school newspaper remain) - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 20:18, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, or merge with the School page and redirect -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:46, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Merge with the school page. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:54, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect to [[Leave It to Beaver]] and merge with school article. -- [[User:Stevietheman|Stevietheman]] 05:37, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**I am amused by this idea. Redirect to [[Leave It to Beaver]]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 05:59, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Alykhan Velshi]]====
*Delete - vanity - claim to fame is that he is on the staff of local student newspaper [[The Beaver]] and the student run [[Hayek Society]] along with normal student activities. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 20:25, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Even if the paper stays, he goes. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 20:43, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Vanity, and bordering on BJAODN given the fact that he starts each paragraph with his name. It's like he's running for a political office in the third person! - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 23:19, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, bad... bad vanity. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:53, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - Y'know, if he'd just join, he could write this crap on his own page anyhow --[[User:DMG413|DMG413]] 03:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Michael Swindells]]====
Expand or delete. A British policeman killed in the line of duty. Not inherently encyclopedia-worthy on that basis, but there could be potential if someone knows something that is not in the (stub) article as it stands. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 20:27, Jun 3, 2004 (UTC)
*merge with others, list of British policemen killed on duty? including WPC [[Yvonne Fletcher]], and the two guys that were killed near me a while ago. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 20:34, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) - info source at [http://www.policememorial.org.uk/NationalRoll/NationalRoll.htm] [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 20:52, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. If there ''was'' actually a list of police officers killed in the line of duty then move it their I guess. But I don't really think we need such a list and I know we don't need an article on every one of them. Non-notable. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:50, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[CrypTool]] ====
Open-source software, the author posted the work. Seems insignificant for Wikipedia, but I would suggest move to openfacts. Needs tidy anyway. [http://openfacts.berlios.de/index-en.phtml?title=Main_Page] [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 20:34, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Note we can't move to openfacts unless the author releases it into the public ___domain. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 20:47, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** Have emailed the author. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 21:08, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* The software, the tutorials and the scripts are all open source, build by many people all over the world, mainly now coming from universities. It's used in many courses to get students a practical experience on how cryptography and cryptanalysis works.
So the text I posted is released into the public ___domain.
What does "moving to openfacts" mean?
What else do you need from me?
Thanks for your help to me as a Wikipedia beginner.
Best regards, Bernhard (User BE in Wikipedia) [[User:BE|Bernhard]] 12:12, 4 Jun 2004 (CET).
====[[Hippophilia]]====
Talks about sex with horses, but the only reference I can find to that use via google is a woody allan quote. So the information is at least unverifiable. When that part is removed there is only a dictionary definition left.
*Eww. Delete as unverifiable. This is one sick little puppy. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 23:23, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Icky... but real. See [http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Hippophile] --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 02:28, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**To me that just reads like someone who likes horses, as in platonic love. Your average horse-crazy girl. My reading of it does not imply sex, and it would be misleading to redirect to [[Zoophilia]] or [[Bestiality]]. [[User:Thue|Thue]] 13:15, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Redirect to [[Zoophilia]]? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 02:47, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Redirect to [[Zoophilia]] or [[Bestiality]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 12:01, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* "Bestiality" redirects to Zoophilia, so this should redirect to Zoophilia as well. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 13:12, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. I'm skeptical that this can be verified. It reads more like a [[neologism]] coined by porn vendors (or possibly by [[Woody Allen]] as noted) to me. My experience of horses is restricted to riding them (in a conventional sense) and in watching some [[veterinary]] procedures, but even so I get the impression I know more about them than some. If anyone, however familiar with the particular horse, were to attempt what is described here, IMO their injuries would prevent them trying a second time. I'd guess any farm boys reading our article are splitting their sides laughing at the naivity of city folk. Unless we can get some '''information''' to back up the redirect, it's better deleted. Or maybe redefine as ''the tendency to bleed after being trampled by a [[hippopotamus]]''? Or (;-> maybe not... [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 20:16, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Hmm, I see several Google hits which refer to horse riding (in the conventional sense) -- e.g. [www.stableminds.com/justforfun/hippophilia.html]. BTW "Philip" is from the Greek for "lover of horses" if I'm not mistaken. I agree this use of "hippophilia" looks like a neologism -- delete unless substantiated. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 00:29, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*<s>Delete. I agree with [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]]. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 01:21, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)</s>
*Not sure if the term is correct, but the concept is real. A worker at a local stable was charged and convicted of bestiality after investigation showed several mares had been sexually molested. Both semen and lubricant were present, so there's not much dot-connecting to do. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]] [[User_talk:Dwindrim|⇔]] 02:59, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
** After this comment, I looked up [http://www.pet-abuse.com/database/ pet-abuse.com] and they list 7 incidents of bestiality involving horses. I still vote delete, though, since the term appears to be made up. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 05:32, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect to zoophilia and try to forget. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 03:05, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
**Nobody has found any use in the meaning zoophilia on the net. Looks like a neologism. Why keep or redirect? [[User:Thue|Thue]] 09:46, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Shudderingly vote to keep. Possibly link to [[centaur]] ? [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless]] 03:37, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Why keep? Nobody has been able to find any use of the word in the meaning zoophilia on the net. So this looks like a [[neologism]], which should be deleted. Why link to [[centaur]]? [[User:Thue|Thue]] 09:46, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Redirect to [[Animal lover]], a well-used term with this specific meaning. [[User:Dwindrim|Denn]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<font color=#118811>'''i'''</font>]] 02:41, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
=== June 4 ===
====[[Zvitko Barkanovic]]====
Faulty information all around. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 00:06, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Seems reasonably important if someoen can fix it. I have no knowledge of the subject, so I can't state anything about the factuality.[[User:Siroxo|siroxo]] 06:31, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Is this real? I tried searching on google for "Zvitko Barkanovic", "Ramzan Rovic" and "Jibril Pasha" and did not find anything about any of the three. I know google is not perfect but it looks suspicious if I can't find anything mentioned in the article. Could be misspelled, could be someone playing a joke on Wikipedia. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 19:45, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
** "Mount Tadmus" also cannot be found. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 19:53, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Transporter accident]]====
Not article-worthy on its own. Possible candidate for speedy deletion. EXTERMINATE! [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 01:51, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Merge and redirect, and no need for the VEHEMENCE! it's NOT FRIENDLY! thanks. - [[User:Fennec|Fennec]] [[User_Talk:Fennec|(さばくのきつね)]] 02:36, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. It looks like everything here is covered in more detail in [[Transporter (Star Trek)]]. [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 02:44, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
* Redirect and possibly merge to [[Transporter (Star Trek)]]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 02:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I've read the article and I've read [[Transporter (Star Trek)]] and frankly nothing needs merging. I'm going to do a redirect. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''D'''elete the redirection. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 08:11, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
====[[Brian Alkire]]====
Appears to be a vanity page. A couple of mentions in Google: 1 a duplicate of information here; the other an honor roll list. [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 01:57, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
* Non-notable and appears to be unverifiable. Looks like his writing career is about to have a setback. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 02:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, vanity. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Though it's nice to read about a teen with some real depth, assuming all this is true, please delete anyway as vanity. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 07:29, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete, probable vanity, and unencyclopedic in any case. Unfortunately by an anon. <s>Hopefully he will perservere.</s> [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 10:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*He's been doing a little bit of vandalism on the side. [[Special:Contributions/24.236.188.207|contribs]]. Delete. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 12:10, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Comment: Noted. Hopefully... No, I won't say it. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 20:35, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, unverifiable. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 19:37, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Transporter beam]]====
Again, not article-worthy on its own. [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 01:58, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: redirected to [[Transporter (Star Trek)]] which is much more comprehensive. [[User:DavidLevinson|dml]] 02:25, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep redirect to [[Transporter (Star Trek)]]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 02:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Oh, yeah, it's fine now. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 02:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as the redirect. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 04:37, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep '''r'''edirect, unless it's not a [[beam]], in which case '''d'''elete. Anybody visited this universe lately? --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 08:08, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
====[[Communications in the Vatican City]]====
* Information doesnt merrit it's own page. Put into [[Vatican City]] page. [[User:Saopaulo1|Saopaulo1]]
** You can do that. Merge the info and put <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Vatican City]]</nowiki> into the above page and it will create a redirect. Ditto with one below. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 11:50, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Transportation in the Vatican City]]====
* Like [[Communications in the Vatican City]], information doesnt merrit it's own page. Put into [[Vatican City]] page. [[User:Saopaulo1|Saopaulo1]]
====[[Neutral Territory of Prevlaka]]====
Per [[Talk:Neutral Territory of Prevlaka]], this should go. --[[User:Shallot|Shallot]] 12:33, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Patent nonsense. Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 13:55, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Appears to be nonsense. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 19:57, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' Sounds very suspect and no corroboration was provided. I tried googling, but found nothing. If this was reported in a (serious) newspaper, it should go (in a much shortened form) into the [[Prevlaka]] article. [[User:Zocky|Zocky]] 22:24, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Agree with the above. Delete. -- [[User:ChrisO|ChrisO]] 11:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Al-Andalus, etymology(ies)]] ====
Nonsense, unencyclopedic. [[User:Casta]] attacked my personal page in response to an attempted speedy delete, so what do you folks think? [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 12:30, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Umm, this is for real. You haven't heard of [[Andalucia]], as in [[Un chien andalou]]? I spent a few months in [[Sevilla]] and it is wonderful BTW. Dunc, I know you mean well, but perhaps you've jumped the gun here. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 14:46, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. I haven't studied the problem in depth, but the etymologies proposed there seemed about as plausible as any; sources are given for each. Some or all of them may be nonsense, but they're hardly ''patent'' nonsense. [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] 14:47, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::Don't bother, Wikipedia admins., I've removed it myself. I teach Spanish history and I added my piece in order to expand on an point that, as presented here, simply repeats a popular notion that is not supported by serious historical scholarship. I realize now that Wikipedia is not for me.
::It would be perhaps more polite and less startling if you asked contributors to submit pieces for publishing consideration beforehand, perhaps - and that you organize some sort of peer review for these. That a young, lying, and unqualified punk such as Harris here is allowed to instantly "adjudge" a piece of writing on a subject he knows nothing about as "nonsense" does not do your site much credit.
::Your loss.
*Pre-publishing peer review was tried on [[Nupedia]]. It didn't work. That's why Wikipedia doesn't operate that way. Secondly, your personal attacks on a (possibly) mistaken user cast far greater doubt on your qualifications than anything [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]] has said. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 19:02, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** Cyrius, I'm afraid you're preaching to the choir -- [[User:Casta]] is well out the door. He shouldn't have gotten so pissed off, true enough, and easy for me to say. However the larger context is that a person whose competence we have no reason to doubt has been driven off. Dare I say it, ''we must be able to keep people who know what they're doing''. As always my opinion is worth what you paid for it. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 00:17, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** Unfortunately, a person, no matter how intelligent and eloquent, isn't going to last long on this site if they cannot accept having their work questioned. [[User:MK|MK]] 04:39, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*** "Questioned" is not an accurate description of what happened. The article was immediately labeled patent nonsense [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Al-Andalus%2C_etymology%28ies%29&action=history]. Nobody raised questions of any kind. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 08:16, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' Article deletion is not really that different from any other edit. Deleted articles can be restored, as this one has. We do warn everyone that they shouldn't submit anything unless they are willing to have it be mercilessly edited. Deletion is just a particularly merciless form of editing. Inappropriate deletes can be restored, just as in appropriate edits can be reverted. No, we don't have pre-publishing peer review. What we do have is post-'''anything''' '''everyone'''-review. LIke a good GUI, we encourage people to be bold and make mistakes, and provide an '''undo''' function to be used afterwards. I don't say it works. I do say we have it. Watch it in action right here, right now. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Note - article restored by Cyrius with VfD tag. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:18, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Force of habit on blanked articles. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 18:55, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Unless it's a copyvio, keep. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 18:23, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Well, this is sad. I think what we have here is a classic case of a bitten newbie. We really could use another editor who knows something about history. It's too late for [[User:Casta]] but let's try to avoid reruns of this. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 18:39, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, seems like a good topic, can't imagine why anyone would think it a candidate for speedy deletion. Bad title, though, should be moved. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 19:00, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: There's simply no way this is a speedy deletion candidate. When in doubt, use VfD. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 21:25, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I'm new here, but in response to copyvio, at least on the Web, there are several similar pages in Spanish, but they do not have identical content (from my little knowledge of Spanish): a search for [http://www.google.com/search?q=Al-Andalus+Landahlauts+Dozy Al-Andalus Landahlauts Dozy] shows them. --[[User:Jkeiser|Jkeiser]] 05:27, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I think this is as good a place as any to point out that it's probably not such a great idea for ''any'' of us to label something "patent nonsense" just because we've never heard of it or we don't understand it. Marking this for speedy delete was definitely jumping the gun, and it appears to have alienated a knowledgeable, articulate individual who contributed in good faith. '''Keep,''' of course. Possibly rename to [[Etymologies of Al-Andalus]]. ''— [[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 06:59, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
* What happened to this person also reminds me of my experiences starting [[White cliffs of Dover]]. I started the article three times as a stub, but someone speedy deleted it each time. I chalked it up to database problems, which was aggravating enough—imagine how pissed I was when I learned someone was deliberately deleting my article, without even notifying me! So I think we should try, in general, to avoid such rude introductions as the ones [[User:Casta|Casta]] and I suffered. ''— [[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 06:59, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
* 2 remarks here: (1) The original had clear citations. How could ''anyone'' propose it for speedy delete without any effort to verify the citations? (2) Conversely, the original was written very unencyclopedically: "I think this is an intriguing question, and not so easily answered! For starters - although the idea of it having something to do with those punk Vandals who supposedly trashed southern Spain so badly..." When you encounter this sort of thing, certainly edit out this kind of self-indulgent writing, but (especially when it comes from a newbie), don't presume it invalidates the substance of the article. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 07:21, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
* This article about the etymology of Al-Andalus was actually longer than the article on [[Al-Andalus]] itself. I have therefore merged the former into the latter, and tidied it up a little. Casta's article was not fabulous, but it was a useful contribution that has now greatly improved the article on [[Al-Andalus]], which is a key element of Spanish history (which I am interested in, since I live here). I vote that this badly-named article now be deleted as unnecessary, but not as nonsense. — [[User:Chameleon|Chameleon]] 23:04, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::By 'delete', I mean 'redirect to [[Al-Andalus]]'. — [[User:Chameleon|Chameleon]] 23:12, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep it. I really amazed on it's vfd. That is completly encycplodaedic and really credible, even the Atlantis thing. Should be move to [[Al-Andaluz etymologies]].-[[User:PedroPVZ|Pedro]] 19:36, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Rename. It makes me think of the Pixies and my recent trip to Spain. [[User:Acegikmo1|Acegikmo1]] 19:51, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[Ulrich Karger]] ====
I smell a vanity page by a newbie. I suspect an non-significant author advertising himself. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 14:25, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep - wiki is not paper. If this is an actual author with actual published works who are we non-germans to claim that it is not valid? - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 17:58, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** Non-germans? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 19:53, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Over 3700 Google hits. Keep. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 18:19, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. -- [[User:Gauss|Gauss]] 20:33, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, looks fine. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 00:30, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. [[User:Acegikmo1|Acegikmo1]] 20:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[The Scary Sleepover]]====
same as [[Ulrich Karger]] above. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 14:25, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep - wiki is not paper. If this is an actual author with actual published works who are we non-germans to claim that it is not valid? - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 17:59, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, agree with Texture. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 18:57, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Lean towards delete. The English translation has Amazon sales rank 1,760,778 which does not look significant. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 01:51, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete unless anyone can show some cultural significance somewhere (like in Germany: it could be encyclopedia-worthy even in the ''absence'' of an English translation). -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 07:24, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, Texture is right. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 20:29, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. And I say so only because there is no mention of the books importance. I don't think wiki needs plot synopsis on books. If it has a synopsis along with a discussion of the books importance then great. But not just a synopsis. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 00:29, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[:Category:Dead people]]====
Moved to [[Wikipedia:Categories for deletion]] - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 16:25, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Citrix MetaFrame]]====
An obvious advertisement, and surprisingly, not even to Citrix MetaFrame! [[User:Yaronf|Yaron]] 16:06, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*D<s>elete. Clear advert. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 17:48, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)</s>
*Keep, but cleanup as an article about the actual citrix metaframe protocol, which is widely used, most notably as the backbone for Microsoft Windows XP's Remote Desktop Protocol. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 17:49, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
**I've rewritten the article as a stub for the actual Citrix Metaframe protocol. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 18:13, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*<s>Delete - advert. very much a candidate for deletion. Not a useful article about the protocol but just and advertisement. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 17:57, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)</s>
*Keep rewritten article - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:17, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep the rewritten article. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 19:25, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, of course. Thanks DDG. I am removing the VfD notice. [[User:Yaronf|Yaron]] 14:50, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Inferior]]====
Dicdef. - [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 18:05, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - Not sure why this would ever be considered needed. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:11, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - aren't pure dicdefs speedy deletion candidates? - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 18:25, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
**Unfortunately, no. Delete. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 18:49, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Xevi|Xevi]] 21:01, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[The Fish Brothers]]====
Insignificant local Brighton band. All music guide doesn't know 'em, nothing at Amazon. [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 19:06, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Sitting on the fence. Google search on the Fish Brothers [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22The+Fish+Brothers%22] although that also includes a UK Mitshubishi dealership. I note that the Levellers website notes that they are that groups faourite support band. May be significant within genre and All Music Guide not as comprehensive outside the US.[[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 23:27, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Delete for now. Slight vanity. --[[User:Quagga|Quagga]]
====[[Nap]]====
*Dictdef. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 19:11, Jun 4, 2004 (UTC)
*Agree. [[User:Lev|Lev]] 19:20, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* REDIRECT [[sleeping]] [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 20:20, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** I second this. - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 20:34, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*** I third it. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 21:26, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** [[Sleeping]] re-directs to [[Sleep]], so if this article re-directs to [[Sleeping]], it will be a doulbe re-direct. Re-direct to [[Sleep]]. [[User:66.32.81.163|66.32.81.163]] 22:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep as '''r'''edirect to article Sleep. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 03:16, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
====[[Herefordshire (disambiguation)]]====
Both disambiguated links redirect to the same page so it's not disambiguating anything. -- [[User:Francs2000|Graham :)]] | [[User talk:Francs2000|Talk]] 20:06, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Ahaha, how silly. EXTERMINATE! [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 23:43, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep for now. Someone needs to make an article for the traditional county. A good example would be [[Yorkshire]]. --[[User:Quagga|Quagga]]
*Delete. The areas covered are practically identical. Having seperate articles about the modern county and the traditional county (but none for the former admin. county?) is POV nonsense. [[User:Morwen|Morwen]] 07:35, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**And further to that, if we were to split it as suggested, we would have no page to note that e.g. [[Hay-on-Wye]] was considered part of Herefordshire in the [[Domesday Book]]. [[User:Morwen|Morwen]] 08:11, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[Arighi Bianchi]] ====
Furniture shop, but is a grade II listed building. Worthy? [[User:Duncharris|Dunc_Harris]]|[[User talk:duncharris|☺]] 22:19, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*It seems to have a claim to fame, and is called a local landmark, so keep. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 23:08, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I can't find anything in the deletion policy that I'd feel comfortable deleting it under. Keep. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 23:47, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Need I say anymore? --[[User:Quagga|The guy who Wik hates, Quagga]]
* '''Keep''' (but did you really expect me to vote any other way?) :-) ''— [[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 07:30, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
* '''Keep''' I love that shop. It is very prominent as you travel through Macclesfield [[User:Dmn|Dmn]] 18:58, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep -- [[User:Francs2000|Graham :)]] | [[User talk:Francs2000|Talk]] 23:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Danny Davini]]====
Does not seem to be an influential painter yet. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 22:24, 2004 Jun 4 (UTC)
*Yeah, looks like vanity. Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 23:58, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Obvious vanity. --[[User:Quagga|Quagga]]
* Smells like vanity. Google hits appear to be self-promotion. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 00:22, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, agree with reasoning. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 06:20, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Endar Spire]]====
Name of the ship that the game Knights of the Old Republic starts on, which crashes shortly into the game. Don't think that it's article-worthy on it's own. --[[User:Andrew L|Andrew L]] 23:09, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Agree. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:05, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Jeversol|Jeversol]] 18:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
=== June 5 ===
====[[Building A Computer]]====
a partial how-to guide, not an encyclopedia entry. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Rex]] 03:17, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Kill it, DIY guides are not encyclopaedic. It might, however, be a good idea to link to sites offering such guides on the [[personal computer]] page or somewhere similar, or maybe even change it to a more encyclopaedic article on the phenomenon/hobby of building PCs and put links there. [[User:StuartH|StuartH]] 04:42, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*DIE, DIE, DIE! [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 05:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Move to [[Wikibooks]] and delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 11:14, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Phoenix-Songstress]]====
makes no sense, gets no google hits. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Rex]] 03:33, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Ah, I dunno. It looks like it could ''possibly'' have the ''possibility'' to be encyclopedic. That is, if it's true, and if it gets a substantial amount of work. I'll abstain for now. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 05:12, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep...if someone gives a verifiable source. He gives the woman's true name as Souke Anyama, but I don't get any Google hits on that name (though I do get some for her alleged husband, Sanada Yukimura, but haven't found any info at all on his wife). Is this from fiction? [[User:Jsan|Jsan]] 07:33, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete unless verified. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 00:20, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Google turns up nothing. Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 05:45, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Kill it, kill it now. [[User:Ambivalenthysteria|Ambivalenthysteria]] 08:54, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Policy conservatism]]====
Seems to be a neologism created by a [http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A38030-2003Jul23?language=printer Washington Post article]. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 04:08, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Seems worthless to me. Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 05:08, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Neologism, near-dicdef. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 00:20, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Rag-chewing]]====
Dicdef. No website I found had any information that could be used to develop an article. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 04:20, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: ''If valid'', put into a new page with other morse code terminology, which I'm sure there is other terms to add to. [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 04:24, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: Agree. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 05:07, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Gee, if it's not on the internet, then it musn't exist! Common sense, right? : ) har har har! --[[User:64.231.158.220|64.231.158.220]] 13:34, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: How is rag-chewing not on the internet? I've heard of it. Then again, I'm a ham, so... Basically, it's valid, but I don't hink it deserves it's own entry. [[User:Scott Burley|Scott Burley]] 06:09, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Northgate Shopping Centre]]====
*<strike>Extremely obscure and small, not a topic for an encyclopedia. There are 7 shopping centres within a 15 minute drive of my house that are bigger than this place. Vast majority of hits on Google are addresses. - [[User:Aaronhill|Aaron Hill]] 04:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC) </strike>
**This is one of the three biggest shopping centres in a city of 180,000. [[User:Chuq|Chuq]] 07:41, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Haha. Who has time to create a page about a '''shopping center'''? Why not [[Wynonna Judd]] even? Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 05:06, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC
**Haha. Who has time to creat a page about [[Wynonna Judd]]? (Whoever she is) I created it because it took two minutes, and I had referenced it in another couple of articles. [[User:Chuq|Chuq]] 07:41, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, it's not even a unique shopping centre - there's a Northgate near where I grew up (Hornsby, northern suburbs of Sydney). p.s. I have added Wynonna Judd to [[Wikipedia:Requested articles/music]] for you, blankfaze. ;-) —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 06:16, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
** :-P haha [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|??]] 23:29, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Then disambig, not deletion, is the solution to that particular issue - if you wanted to create an article for the other Northgate, that is. [[User:Chuq|Chuq]] 07:41, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Whew! At first I thought this was an article on the Northgate Shopping Center near me that is being demolished. Either way, not noteworthy. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:14, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, though I may be biased as the creator of the article. I've posted replies to specific comments above. Should every other articled linked at [[List of shopping malls]] be deleted as well? [[User:Chuq|Chuq]] 07:41, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**What?! We actually have a [[List of shopping malls]]? Oh, no. Ohhhh, no. Ohhhhhh, no. The purpose of an encyclopedia is not to mention everything, but everything of note. This general trend needs to be addressed before it becomes a massive cleanup project. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:57, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' 2 Questions: Is this article correct/verifible? I would answer yes. Does it really hurt to have it? Not really. [[http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_is_not_paper]] - who cares if we have a factually correct article about every mall in the world. Harddrive space and bandwidth are cheap. (of which this is consuming much of neither). [[User:Burgundavia|Burgundavia]] 11:30, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Unless its a particularly notable shopping center, i'd say '''delete'''. I've personally been to "Northgate" malls in 3 different states in the US, unrelated to each other (I belive) none of which were significant. I guess this really decision depends on the direction people want Wikipedia to take in the long run. [[User:Siroxo|siroxo]] 11:42, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, factual, verifiable, and important to many. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 14:13, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: Not every fact is a significant fact. Indeed, it does hurt to have a solo entry on "Northgate Shopping Center," as there is not a single one. Disambig to every one? We're talking about thousands, not dozens, of verifiable places. If the shopping center has been mentioned in previous articles, then isn't it possible to fold appropriate information about it into those articles? Every town and city I have lived in has had one "Northgate," and some have had more than one. "Northgate Shopping Center, Melbourne" or "Nothgate Shopping Center, Springfield, Ohio" might be possible, if it's significant. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 15:57, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Insignificant wikicruft. WP is not a gazetteer. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 16:06, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' This is an example of what I'm calling a ''local interest article." For the time being, I'm declining to vote on these articles, on some not-yet-well-articulated point of principle. But I sure wish people would only write them if they ''know'' the place and could include a bit of local color, or a snapshot, or something. Can't we at least have consensus that inclusion of some ''local knowledge'' about this mall would make it a much ''better'' article? [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 18:20, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. It's actually the largest shopping centre in the largest city in [[Tasmania]]. Should mention this in the article. --[[User:Gene Poole|Gene_poole]] 22:16, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not noteworthy. If it is decided to keep, it has to become a disambiguation page. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:34, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I only have a problem with these local-interest articles when they don't have any context. This one's mentioned in the [[Glenorchy, Tasmania]] article, and even described as a "''major'' indoor shopping centre". That's enough of a context and justification for inclusion for me. Certainly this shopping centre is also much more significant than many of the U.S. towns with 15 inhabitants we currently have data dumps about (and no, I don't mind those either). [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 00:01, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Wasn't going to vote at first, but if Gene Poole speaks the truth when he says it's the largest shopping center in the largest city on Tasmania, that's good enough for me. Keep. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 01:21, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I was unaware that this was the largest shopping centre in Tasmania and after discovering that it is I think the article should remain, but it must establish that it is a relatively significant shopping centre. - [[User:Aaronhill|Aaron Hill]] 11:26, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' To update the discussion above, [[Northgate Shopping Centre]] is now a disambiguation page, where other Northgates can be listed. I changed the link in [[Glenorchy, Tasmania]] so that it now points to [[Northgate Shopping Centre, Tasmania]]. If there are so many other Northgates around, does maybe Wynonna Judd shop at one of them? [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 13:04, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' I'm no inclusionist, but I can't see any reason to delete this. Could easily be of interest. [[User:Ambivalenthysteria|Ambivalenthysteria]] 08:04, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I support keeping major shopping centers and malls, but [[strip mall]]s are not worthy of inclusion. If this is a major shopping center, keep. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:56, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[AT-PT]]====
Fictional vehicle from some game or fictional universe. No idea which, though, the author doesn't say. Google shows it up as being a Star Wars thing, but that doesn't seem to match this article. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 05:21, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep but make it clear that it's fictional. [[User:Guanaco|Guan]][[User talk:Guanaco|aco]] 05:36, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 00:11, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I made some small changes placing it in the Star Wars universe. Besides, it's already being linked to. - [[User:Jsan|Jsan]] 07:12, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: I think the AT-PT is [[Expanded Universe (Star Wars)|Expanded Universe]] only (i.e. it's not in any of the movies), but I'm not enough of a SW geek to know for sure. If it is, it should say so in the article. [[User:DopefishJustin|DopefishJustin]] [[User talk:DopefishJustin|(・∀・)]] 01:06, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**You are correct, I've edited that point into the article. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 03:38, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Mossy]]====
Fake page copying [[Tao Te Ching]] text. [[User:Gbog|gbog]] 05:58, 2004 Jun 5 (UTC)
*I've speed deleted it as patent nonsense. For the record, it started like this: "Joel 'Mossy' Moss was born in England one day when the Earth was circling the Sun. He is a swell bloke. Well chuffed." and then went into stuff about the [[Tao Te Ching]]. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 08:28, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==== [[List of internet emoticons]] and [[List of internet emotions]] ====
*Isn't this the sort of stuff that can be found on hundreds of websites? Do we need it here? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 06:05, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, if there is anything there which can be added to [[Emoticon]] (which is a reasonably nice article on the topic), then someone may wish to do so. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 06:10, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. We don't need a list on this, there no standard definition of what emotions some of them stand for or how they are supposed to be represented (ie '':)'' or '':-)''). The emoticon article (and wikipedia as a whole) is fine without this content. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 00:08, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[Emoticon]] is fine. Actually I find most such lists irritating because only a relative handful are actually used with any frequency; the rest appear only on lists of emoticons, need to be explained whenever used, and are used only in order to have the pleasure of explaining them. :P :\ [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 01:19, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Isn't that what encyclopedia entries are for? [[User:Voyager640|Voyager640]] 04:41, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Airport Parkway]], [[Bank Street]], [[Brookfield Road]], [[Donnelly Road]], [[Heron Road]], [[Hunt Club Road]], [[Laurier Avenue]], [[Main Street (Ottawa)]], [[North Gower Road]], [[Preston Street]], [[Preston Street]], [[Riverside Drive]], [[Sussex Drive]], and the rest of the linkage at [[List of Ottawa, Ontario roads]]====
I think all salient points can be covered in a single article (either the main 'Ottawa streets' article, or possible a 'description of Ottawa streets' article. Other than the 'Ottawa streets' article, many are orphans. Neither [[Alphabetical List of Hoboken streets]], nor [[Alphabetical list of Santa Clara, California streets]] have links to the individual streets. Possible exceptions: [[Bank Street]],[[Rideau Street]]. Many also hog very generic names for commonly used street names around the world. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 06:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''keep''' As I mentioned in the above debate about shopping malls, this a verifiable fact. In fact, where I live, there are 3 books of about 200 pages about why each and every street in [[Victoria, British Columbia]] is named that way. And when we need to disambiguate, we can. [[User:Burgundavia|Burgundavia]] 11:33, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Sitting on the fence but tending towards keep. As a general rule I don't believe we should have articles on streets, roads, avenues etc unless:
**the street is of historical, economic or cultural interest eg Wall Street, Fleet Street, Beale Street Memphis (birthplace of the blues)
**the street is the main street of a reasonably significant centre or regional area or at least a significant street;
**a famous person real or fictional lived there - ie Sherlock Holmes at 221B Baker Street, London
**the street contains buildings of national significance to the relevant nation ie White House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
*Which leads to my concern as Ottawa is the Capital City of Canada we might delete streets containing the Canadian Parliament - I would suggest that we keep the streets in Ottawa that meet the above criteria and that we merge the others into the Ottawa article if appropriate. I would urge caution in case we throw the babies out with the bathwater. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 13:24, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, as a former Ottawa resident a number of these streets are of national reknown and the others are major commerical centres. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 14:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' In [[Wikipedia:Your first article]]—under construction and in need of community editing and input—I define "local interest articles" as "articles about places like schools, or streets that are of interest to a relatively small number of people such as alumni or people who live nearby. There is no consensus about such articles, but some will challenge them if they include nothing that shows how the place is special and different from tens of thousands of similar places. Photographs add interest. Try to give local-interest articles local color." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 17:33, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment. Please note that I am '''NOT''' suggesting that Wikipedia shouldn't have information/'''facts''' about these streets. My concern is whether it is necessary to have '''146 separate''' articles, often using names used by streets in many other cities. Why not a single [[notable streets of Ontario]] (or whatever title people think is best) article? I basically agree with the guidelines above by capitalistroadster--there are probably a '''few''' streets in every '''country''' that deserve separate articles; I just don't believe there are '''dozens''' in every '''city'''. Also, since many Wikipedians mark anything that doesn't fill the screen as a "stub", I don't think it is in Wikipedia's best interest to create large numbers of articles that will probably be forever marked Stub. Finally, from an end-user perspective, I believe it is FAR more convenient to scroll thru a single article about all notable streets in a given city, than it is to click a street name, hit the Back button, click a street name, hit the Back button, click a street name, hit the Back button, ad nauseum. PS I have no problem keeping all the street names as redirs, at least until they need to become disambiguation pages. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 18:02, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*These are not encyclopedia articles, they are the geographic equivalent of dicdefs. [[Bank Street]] and [[Main Street (Ottawa)]] have the hints of real articles peeking through. Either delete or merge into one article. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 19:00, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete all except [[Bank Street]], [[Laurier Street]], and [[Main Street (Ottawa)]]. I agree on the whole w/ Cyrius and Niteowlneils. Some small number of streets deserve mention; for the rest, look in the phone book. WP is not a gazetteer. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 07:30, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Note: none of these entries have a vfd messsage. They should be added and the vote moved to the date they were inserted. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 22:16, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Merge into [[Ottawa, Ontario]] and delete. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:27, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
**Rick as you know and have been told many times, merge and delete is not a valid option. Please stop irritating people by continuing to suggest it. [[User:Pcb21|Pcb21|]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|Pete]] 22:49, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
***I'm afraid I'm at a loss. I don't recall having ever been told this, and I completely have no idea why it is not a valid option. Please explain? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 06:08, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' --[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 00:00, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*merge into one or delete. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 00:28, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' -- The reason why I created these articles is because I saw that there was a list of streets in London. These pages took a lot of time to write up, and I'd appreciate if my hard work does not go to waste. [[User:Earl Andrew|Earl Andrew]] 01:32, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' - as long as it is (becomes) properly disambiguated, is factually correct, and affects a significant number of people (and I suspect tens of thousands of people per day use these roads, which is far more than see a number of [[opera]]s and [[art]] pieces described here), it should not be deleted. I wouldn't encourage people to create them, but if the alternative is to have or not have, having is better. [[User:DavidLevinson|dml]] 03:12, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - more people live, work and travel along each of these roads than in most of the thousands of small towns and villages which have articles to themselves. They may also be useful as stubs, since there is far more that could be and hopefully will be written about them. I do agree about the name-hogging problem. Subsequent disambiguation mitigates the problem, but if articles about streets are to be widespread then perhaps there needs to be an agreed convention for naming them. This might also facilitate robot-assisted maintaining of the disambig pages. [[User:Cambyses|Cambyses]] 03:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Capital Boulevard]]) (in [[Raleigh, North Carolina]])====
True orphan--doesn't even link from the related Interstate article the original contributor has worked on. I don't want to "bite the newcomer", but seriously, do we want tens of thousand of street name articles? I realize "WP is not paper", but I go back to my 'ratio of articles/Wikipedians argument', an addition of which would be that all the time spent by new WPers on 'killing street name red-links', would be better spent on articles with more broad interest. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 06:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I live in Raleigh, NC. Capital Boulevard is a major road in Raleigh, but it is not, by any stretch of the imagination, worthy of an article in the Wikipedia. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:10, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Lean towards keep. It is a major street in a major regional centre in North Carolina. In response to Niteowlneils comments, presumably the reason that newbies spend time writing articles on streets or shopping malls because these things are of significance to them. I remember reading an article in the Melbourne Age is that one of the strengths of the Wikipedia is its greater coverage of local features. We have thousands of articles on Star Trek characters, Pokemon characters, etc or indeed music articles which I tend to work on. Why is is it considered that shopping malls where thousands of people shop daily or major streets in our cities are of less interest than these other interests? One of Wikipedia's strengths is that it is written by ordinary people about things that are important to them. I am tending towards the view that important streets in cities should be kept. If it doesn't interest you, you don't have to read them. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 13:46, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** PS. A Google search of "Capital Boulevard" North Carolina [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=%22Capital+Boulevard%22+Raleigh/1] comes up with over 7000 results.[[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 13:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, with care: As the author of "Peachtree Street," I've been on the fence about this. If a street is historically important, known outside of its own town, or really ''the'' main street of a town (e.g. if you go to visit there, every direction you get from someone will start, "Well, you go down to X street, and then you..."), it seems significant. In this particular case, Capitol Blvd. is the main street of Raleigh in a peculiarly apt way. The article can explain the importance of the street. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 17:25, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Actually, every set of directions in Raleigh begins with the Beltline. Capital Blvd. is a very lucrative street as far as city taxes go -- lots of fast food restaurants, new and used car lots, etc. In other words, it is like tens of thousands of other streets -- not noteworthy of its own article. Either merge or delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:09, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment. As above, I am NOT saying the street is not notable, nor that Wikipedia shouldn't mention it. I am simply questioning why it needs to be a separate article, instead of being part of the city's article? ''"Aurora Avenue" Seattle'' (THE main street in the north half of Seattle (where I lived 39 years, and still spend time); major commute route and commercial center) gets 26,000 hits, but I don't think it needs an article by itself. (BTW I only get ~5,700 hits for ''"Capital Boulevard" North Carolina''--OIC 7,000 for '"Capital Boulevard" raleigh'') Oh, and, while I appreciate having some LotR, Trek, etc. info, I think we have excessive granularity there, too. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 18:34, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete unless the article is expanded to explain ''why'' it is notable. Being a long city road with limited access portions does not make a road notable. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 18:48, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Merge into [[Raleigh, North Carolina]] and delete. It can't stand at this title, as there are other Capital Boulevards around the world, I'm sure. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:32, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
====[[TABnet]]====
A quick google search doesn't find anything. Doesn't seem notable. Complete text is
:TABnet is The Adopted Bastards Echomail network. (FIDO-Style, baby..) Started in about 1994 with a bunch of BBSs the 604 area code. I like to describe it as a bunch of intellectual punks. It's still around today - only one BBS though. email soema@hotmail.com for infoz, b4by. bonk.dynip.com -[[User:Thue|Thue]] 11:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Should be speedily deleted. Patent nonsense. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 13:21, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete as is. However, there was a company called TABnet that was one of the largest hosting providers of their time before [[Verio]] bought them in the late 90s [http://www.internetnews.com/xSP/article.php/43721], so there could be a notable article there. [[User:RadicalBender|R<small>ADICAL</small>B<small>ENDER</small>]][[User talk:RadicalBender|<small>★</small>]] 14:30, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Agree with RadicalBender. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 18:50, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete the current content. If someone wants to recreate with content relevent to what RadicalBender was speaking of then they are free too. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 00:01, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*The historically important TABnet is appropriate to keep, but not this so-called TABnet. - [[User:Centrx|Centrx]] 02:23, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Techniques and resources for natural language processing]]====
Currently just a list of links (with a bizzare wikilink to the irrelavent [[Introduction]] page. The links are relavent and useful for people interested in NLP, but the article is not really ''about'' anything. I see no need to have this as a page separate from [[Natural Language Processing]]. [[User:Cadr|Cadr]] 20:37, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete.--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 23:55, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*'''D'''elete. Now merged with [[Natural Language Processing]] article. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 03:12, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
====[[User silvermane]]====
Mangled mess that has been awaiting translation for almost a month. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 21:51, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:30, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 22:34, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. What, so you write garbage in a foreign language as opposed to English and it hangs around for longer? That makes no sense.--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 23:54, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:50, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 01:28, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[List of assets owned by Clear Channel Communications]]====
Substub, and all information is in [[Clear Channel Communications]] anyway. --[[User:Etaoin|Etaoin]] 22:17, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*It's not even a list. Delete. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:28, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*True or false: there is an advantage of deleting as opposed to keeping as a re-direct to [[Clear Channel Communications]]. [[User:66.32.138.16|66.32.138.16]] 23:35, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. And ^true. The current title serves no purpose, knowones ever going to search for that and not search for Clear Channel. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 23:57, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' I really can't see an opulent future of expansion for this stub.--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 23:52, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, for good reasons noted by others. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 01:25, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Duncan Sheik]]====
Article tagged for speedy delete by [[User:Duncharris]]. Not a speedy candidate, so I moved it here. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 22:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*VERY MUCH a speedy delete candidate. I would have deleted it had you not moved it here. Delete. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']]
**Vanity pages, even poorly written ones, are NOT candidates for speedy deletion. They have to go through VfD, because of things like this. A grammy nominee is certainly worthy of an article. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 05:11, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
***''A great guy who spends his time writing music. He was born on November 18, 1969 in Montclair, New Jersey. He is married and loves to play the guitar. He's even won some awards and money for his music.'' is definitely worthy of speedy deletion. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 06:11, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
****It does no harm to put these through vfd instead--and thus give them wider exposure, to see if an article is worth saving. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:33, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' no comment--[[User:HamYoyo|[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo]] [[User talk:HamYoyo|(Talk)]]]] 23:51, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, has an entry on All Music Guide. Subject for cleanup. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 23:54, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, notable. It's been stubbified, not great but much much better. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 23:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, new stubby version is fine, certainly notable. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter | Talk]] 23:58, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Original version was garbage. New version needs help, but is a stub. Keep. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 00:00, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, I've certainly never heard of him, but if got a Grammy nomination, I think he's notable enough to have an article. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 00:10, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*Depressingly, I knew who he was from name alone. Keep. [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 00:22, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I agree with [[User:Stormie|Stormie]]'s reasoning. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 01:02, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. A Google Search for "Duncan Sheik" gets over 37,000 hits [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22Duncan+Sheik%22&btnG=Search/1]. I think that we need a new procedure where people should look at listing concerns about articles on the talk page/ and or the user page and wait for a response say for 24 hours before listing them here or on votes for speedy deletion unless it is obviously patent nonsense. I think that this would help sort out a lot of issues before they reach here.[[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 12:39, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. He's pretty well-known for that song "Barely Breathing." For a while, you couldn't get away from it on radio. He's at least as well known as many obscure bands that are still here. [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 04:38, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*:This wasn't actually an unreasonable listing - look at the article history. It was patent nonsense when it first appeared, and gave every indication of being a vanity article - especially as the article was created by "Duncan Sheik." It just happened to be about a real person. [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 05:59, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Agree that the original listing was utter garbashky and deserved a speedy. Looking great now. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 08:28, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' (of course). Another example of the danger of marking things for speedy delete when one has no knowledge of the subject matter. Don't bite the newbies. ''[[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 09:03, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
** I agree. There are a lot of poorly written articles on legitimate topics. The policy should just be to stub these. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 12:26, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
***It deserved vfd, but had it been speedied we would have lost an article. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
****Not really. We didn't have an article on Duncan Sheik before the rewrite. We had an article titled Duncan Sheik, but it didn't really have any use as an article about him. If it had been deleted, we would have simply not had an article about him or using his name. No big. [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 20:05, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*****And indeed, while it's obviously better to rewrite a worthless article than to delete it, I think it's better to delete it than to do nothing. Better to have a red link inviting people to write an article, than a blue one inviting them to click on it and find nothing but crap. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 05:36, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[VF-713]]====
Reads like a medal citation, which probably means it isn't a copyvio as probably a government document, but what does it have to do with the title? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 23:27, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Lifnei iver]]====
An unencyclopedic priciple of Jewish law. Delete. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:29, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:Given the support below, I'd like to add the following. Clearly, any principle from the [[Talmud]] will then gain its own article... There are literally ''hundreds'' of them. Are we waiting for [[ha-motzi me-chavero alav ha-ra'aya]], [[teiku]] ([[tishbi yiftor kushiot u-ba'ayot]]), or the very parallel [[lo ta'amod al dam rei'echa]]? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 07:09, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Yeah, bring 'em on. A subject that is large requires more space. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 07:50, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, it has info that isn't contained in [[613 mitzvot]]. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 23:41, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*If it wasn't for the fact that there's 613 of the things, I'd say merge and redirect. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 00:30, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Interesting and important concept (to me). This also appears in [[Cherem]], but not by name. Are there any modern laws who's origin is this? Entrapment? There Might be a better place to put this, but I wouldn't like to see it deleted. [[User:Pud|Pud]]
** Merge with a term from general law might be a good move. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 07:09, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep and wikify (possibly merge with [[613 mitzvot]]) -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:49, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Could use some work, but being a principle of Jewish law makes it automatically encyclopedic. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 02:40, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''K'''eep, along with any other of the 613 mitzvot, and similar components of other religious laws. Now wikified. --[[User:Zigger|Zigger]] 03:05, 2004 Jun 6 (UTC)
*Keep. Can't really judge accuracy but reads like a fine short article to me. Are jdfwolff's objections to the quality of the article or just to the subject? He needs to articulate this more clearly. Re "there are 613 of the things:" the article is about 1200 bytes long. Hypothetically, if each of the [[613 mitzvot]] were to receive an article of similar length that would be less than a megabyte total. If that were to happen I would think it would be a great addition to Wikipedia. Note, too, that 613 articles would constitute 613/279454 = 0.2% of Wikipedia, which is a lot but hardly excessive. It's not as if that would crowd out other religions. Conversely, if this much information were moved into [[613 mitzvot]] it would become a 700K article, which, interestingly enough, is much shorter than the article on "Bible" in the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica, but much too long for Wikipedia. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 10:41, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. An informative and interesting expansion of its one-line entry on [[613 mitzvot]]. IMO, definitely encyclopedic and worthy of its own page. --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 03:36, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
=== June 6 ===
====[[Pow Sows]]====
It's accurate enough but is it really necessary in its own article? I don't really see this expanding further than the current sub stub foreign language dicdef. -- [[User:Francs2000|Graham :)]] | [[User talk:Francs2000|Talk]] 00:19, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete unless expanded significantly -- [[user:chris 73]]
**Agree. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|??]] 00:54, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Make sense to redirect, and define within the [[England]]? Its not just a standard dicdef. - [[User:Siroxo|siroxo]] 13:34, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
**Delete. If this, why not Angleterre, Inglaterra etc etc? We can't possibly include all non-English-language names for everything on the English Wiki. If this belongs anywhere it is on a Cornish language Wikipedia (is there one?). [[User:Cambyses|Cambyses]] 13:59, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[James Hoare]]====
His band was deleted for being unknowns, and the only other thing he seems to be known for is a few bit parts in TV movies. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 01:45, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|??]] 04:33, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Wikipedia is not a vanity press. - [[User:Aaronhill|Aaron Hill]] 12:13, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*We just have to get this guy together with the idiot who keeps posting the TV and movie substubs I've been screaming about! Delete. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 06:02, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Patimokkha]]====
This should really be at [[Wikisource]] [[User:Theon|Theon]] 04:35, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*Wikisource and delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 07:43, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Tmxxine]], [[ProjeX]], [[CurlChat]], [[Quantum perception creation]]====
I'm sure Tmxxine's bizarre contributions have been voted for deletion and deleted in the past, which I guess would make them candidates for speedy deletion, but I can't find the record of them. Anyway, looks like patent nonsense to me, from a user with a history of creating such stuff. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 11:20, Jun 6, 2004 (UTC)
*Agree completely with Stormie. '''Delete.''' [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 12:29, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Quantum-perception-creation (with hyphens) was deleted by VfD three weeks ago [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:VfD-Quantum-perception-creation VfD Debate]. Within that debate, someone mentioned that [[Tmxxine]] had been deleted before. Delete all. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 02:52, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not encyclopedic. --[[User:Starx|Starx]] 03:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*[[Tmxxine]] has definitely been deleted before. Delete all. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']]
*Delete - More a link factory than an article - Any that have been deleted before are eligible for speedy deletion - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 19:37, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*As if by some time-flux discontinuity, these articles have appeared exactly as they were/will be/are at the time of their deletion. Are we messing with forces we don't understand? I propose an experiment: let's DELETE them again and see what happens. [[User:Dwindrim|Denn]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<font color=#118811>'''i'''</font>]] 02:50, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
*''Delete'' with prejudice. These have has been speedily deleted twice that I know of, and VfD'd at least once. Can we delete the author too please? - [[User:Topbanana|TB]] 13:22, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*We voted to delete them and now they're back. Delete and block user. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 16:07, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
=== June 8 ===
====[[List of bohemians]]====
This list is highly subjective. The only article that links to it is [[Bohemianism]], which states "...many of the most talented European and American literary figures of the last century and a half have had a bohemian cast, so that a [[list of bohemians]] would be tediously long." If it can be expanded it may have some merit, but I don't see how this could happen. [[User:Scott Burley|Scott Burley]] 04:02, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Subjective, and indeed, going to be quite tediously long. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:11, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:54, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[obstetrics and gynaecology]]====
This has been expanded into [[obstetrics]] and [[gynaecology]]. If we have the 2 articles, do we still need this one? [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 05:24, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep.''' There's info here that doesn't fit neatly into either obstetrics or gynecology; it makes sense to me as a separate article. I'd link back to this one from the other two, though. (Incidentally, since when were we using the British spellings of anything?) :-) ''[[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 09:15, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
**Our policy is to use whichever comes up first, unless we have a reason not to. For example, since [[swing state]] is a uniquely American-related concept, we use U.S. spelling; similarly, British spelling goes on [[London]]. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:28, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:12, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*'''D'''eep. Yes, this is hard. You can't redirect to two different pages, can your? Keep but trim the article so the reader will move quickly to either element. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 15:27, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Satheesh]]====
Vanity page created by an anon. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 05:53, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*For such a well-educated person, he's a bit unclear on the concept, eh? Delete. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:59, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Yes, I think we can delete this one. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 06:04, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*but ... he created a ''MOSQUITO REPELLENT'' -- DELETE -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 06:14, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Wikipedia is not a collection of CVs. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 06:18, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete resume/CV/vanity. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 08:18, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I accept u friends.u may delete that page.But in future wikipedia can make a section for the presentation of CVs - satheesh.
**Perhaps we will. But in the meantime, this doesn't really fit our role--see [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]. No hard feelings, though. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:25, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Template:TaipeiSC]]====
It's not relevant at the Houston article that San Salvador is also a sister city of Taipei. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 05:56, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Do we '''really''' need something like this? I don't think so. Delete. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 21:55, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. It no longer links to any article other than Taipei, '''which is relevant''', and could also be useful to a holistic list of sister and twined cities. I created the message boxes after a week in which I had a total of 9 hours sleep due to prolonged severe weather. Linking them to all of the cities was not a good idea but after less than three hours of sleep each day for a week, bad ideas are bound to happen. [[User:JCarriker|JCarriker]] 20:25, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Ordinance of Villers-Cotterets]]====
Blanked by [[User:67.100.49.26|67.100.49.26]] who is the only author of the page, which is presumably a request for deletion. (put here by Angela. This is not a vote)
*I have made it a redirect to [[Ordinance of Villers-Cotterêts]] - looks like that anon created it, then realised it was missing the hat over the e, and re-created it a few minutes later with the proper name. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 11:29, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Terence Finnegan]]====
Blanked by [[User:129.215.16.12|129.215.16.12]] who is the only author of the page, which is presumably a request for deletion. Also, appears to be non-famous, so delete. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 09:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I say delete too.. I am highly suspicious of the claim that this guy "published algorithm rendering the RSA computer encryption algorithm insecure".. without there being a single google hit for "Terence Finnegan" and "RSA". —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 11:33, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I am very suspicious too. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 14:08, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:51, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Someone's blanked the page. That's good enough for me to vote delete. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[ObjectWeb]]====
From Cleanup: [[ObjectWeb]] - unwikfied ad (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*Delete - advert - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:50, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Agree. Axe this. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 22:02, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Boiler Efficiency]] and [[Caliculation Routines]]====
From Cleanup: [[Boiler Efficiency]] and [[Caliculation Routines]] technical manual for some boiler. (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
* [[Caliculation Routines]] is a general prescription for assessing boiler efficiency. It turns out that this is a topic of substantial practical importance as many large buildings have one. However the article as it stands doesn't make an encyclopedia article -- move to Wikibooks but do not delete. [[Boiler Efficiency]] is copied in part from [http://www.bee-india.com/aboutbee/Action%20Plan/Msg%20cab_mp.html] and I suspect the remainder is copied from elsewhere as well (it says "Author: DSCL Energy Services" at the top of the article). I'm guessing that [[User:Kaupp]] who contributed these is an engineering student in India. That's awesome, we just need to focus his/her efforts. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 14:18, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Bigfiber]]====
From Cleanup: [[Bigfiber]] - ad (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*Delete - advert - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:46, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, advert. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 00:15, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Box Battling]]====
From Cleanup: [[Box Battling]] - "Box Battling is an underground sport which was developed in Berkeley, California in November, 2003" not notable. (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*95 google hits for neologism [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22box+battling%22]. Delete. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I can't get the external link to work either. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 13:42, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**It just worked for me, and their hit counter read 1350. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:55, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep - Not what you'd see in the averge encyclopedia, but... - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:45, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, I guess. Now I want to actually try this... [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless]] 19:16, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Keep?! They have no relevant google hits, and one website which has about 1,000 hits! There's no ''way'' this is notable. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 20:43, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Non-notable newly invented sport. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 21:29, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I seem to remember we deleted an article for some other recently created sport awhile back. I'm gonna go with that precedent. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 22:01, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. Vanity. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 02:54, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - vanity. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 22:10, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Less elegant than rhythmic gymnastics, but more of a sport. Delete until it makes it as a demo Olympic sport or Fox picks it up. [[User:Dwindrim|Denn]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<font color=#118811>'''i'''</font>]] 02:56, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
* Delete, idiosyncratic, vanity, nonnotable. When Fox picks it up we'll have an article. Sounds like a ''lot'' of fun! [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 03:11, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*LOL! It ''does'' sound like a lot of fun. Still, delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Boynton v. Virginia]]====
From Cleanup: [[Boynton v. Virginia]] - source text (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
* Keep. I added a short stub describing the import of the decision as I understand it. Wikisource the rest of the text. [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] 14:05, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep stub - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Brian Hickey]]====
From Cleanup: [[Brian Hickey]] - 9/11 victim (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*Move to Memorial and delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:10, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Move to memorial, possibly an interwiki-redirect. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 15:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Move to Memorial and delete. [[User:Jeversol|Jeversol]] 18:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Move and delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:42, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Burkay]]====
From Cleanup: [[Burkay]] - we don't include last names (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:10, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:39, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Eeeeeeew. Delete, with... MALICE. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 22:04, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Gadget]]====
From Cleanup: [[Gadget]] - dict. def. (moved from Cleanup by SimonP)
*Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:15, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I see *potential* here. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 22:07, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Oh, I ''almost'' want to keep. What about a redirect to [[Widget]]? [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Predator (Mike Carlton)]]====
A [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Mike+Carlton%22 google search] shows hits for a Mike Carlton who's a radio host and newspaper columnist in Sydney, but I'm not sure if this is the same guy. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:46, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I put this page up. He's not the same guy.--[[User:Mgekelly|XmarkX]] 13:53, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Thanks for the clarification. I'm not sure he's notable enough; no offense meant, though--I hope you continue your work. You seem to have been quite productive here since you arrived. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 14:07, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Yeah, you are completely right, I guess. Looking at it objectively, and looking at some other vfd entries, he's not an encyclopedic candidate. So I vote to delete my own creation! Ironically enough, the real guy is being buried tomorrow morning.--[[User:Mgekelly|XmarkX]] 14:11, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
***How mature of you. I wish that most vfd discussions were this civil! - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 15:25, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Free drinks]]====
Just a dicdef of something that's pretty self-explanatory. The last sentence is already at [[BJAODN]]. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 14:12, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Hmmm... I wanted to capture the essence of what it is to experience free drinks as a societal human being living in the 21st centry. I think this concept is dificult to grasp, and this is reflected in the poor quality of the article, but I am working on it :) --[[User:Dmb000006|Dan]] 14:33, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete quickly - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 14:18, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*delete [[User:Cbraga|cbraga]] 14:31, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Johnleemk|Johnleemk]] | [[User talk:Johnleemk|Talk]] 15:16, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete! Now! [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 15:34, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*One of the best arguments for abstinence I've seen. Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 17:15, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Perhaps merge with [[Drinking culture]]? --[[User:Dmb000006|Dan]] 21:28, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I suppose a good article could be written about free drinks, but after the first paragraph or two this one gets just a little too weird. Delete if not significantly improved over the next few days. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 22:32, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*How am I going to significantly improve this article in a couple of days? You guys are going to have to give me the weekend to make this happen, yes, the weekend and plenty of booze... (don't worry, I will supply the booze) --[[User:Dmb000006|Dan]] 21:03, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Or merge with [[Drinking culture]]. Probably just delete though. [[User:Russco|Russco]] 12:14, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Scientific romance]]====
Just another name for [[science fiction]] and would do better at that page, IMO. The name is hardly ever used now. [[User:Mandel|Mandel]] 16:00, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Merge and redirect. [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless]] 19:18, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I believe the term [[science fiction]] or possibly [[scientifiction]] wasn't coined until the thirties or thereabouts at the time when the great SF pulp were launched. That leaves quite a long period of time before that when people were writing the stuff and had to call it something else. That includes [[Jules Verne]], [[H. G. Wells]], [[Arthur Conan Doyle]] (Professor Challenger, etc.), a good dozen stories by [[Jack London]], and many others. It's true that the name is hardly ever used now, but the page ''says'' it's archaic, and it seems to me that it would be a fine jumping-off place for an article on SF pre-Gernsback and pre-Campbell. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:20, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Wouldn't it be strange if, when reading on [[science fiction]], one has to jump over to [[scientific romance]] for the pre-30s history? Why not just make a note of this name and usage in the sci-fi article? Is there a distinction between the two? [[User:Mandel|Mandel]] 23:38, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Wouldn't redirect be better than deletion? [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 19:37, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Merge and redirect unless seriously expanded. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 22:04, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep where it is. There is plenty of time for this to expand. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]]
*Merge and redirect. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:40, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. There's a wealth of detail to cover. [[User:Rossumcapek|Rossumcapek]] 21:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Comprehensive Corporate Power]]====
''This section disappeared at 19:35, apparently due to software mistake and has been just restored.'' [[User:Andris|Andris]] 21:48, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
Idiosyncratic. There are no google references for the concept, and it is
not used in any large degree by anyone I know. [[User:Roadrunner|Roadrunner]] 16:49, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*When I look at this page, not only is it deleted, but there's no "view or restore X deleted edits". What happened? [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 16:52, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* No vote. Request posted to the original author's page asking for verification of usage. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] 22:42, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[CRITICAL MASS]]====
Don't know where to start with this. Apart from being entirely in upper case, full of spelling errors and decidedly non-NPOV, I'm not sure what it's supposed to be about - some anarchist group? [[User:Deb|Deb]] 17:11, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, or at least disambiguate and rewrite, as there is another activist group (at least) now in the news in the US by that name. The US one is a bicycling rights group that snarls traffic by blocking all lanes with bikes. If one is worthy of an article, surely the other is, and there would need to be disambiguation. [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 17:24, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Can't rubbish like that be deleted right away, or is that rule not in effect anymore? -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 18:05, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Nonsense can be tagged for [[Wikipedia:Speedy deletion|speedy deletion]] - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:35, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
***Delete. It's not nonsense. It's not encyclopedic, but it makes sense. Still, pretty useless. There may be a fact or two worth digging out, but someone would have to research it & verify independently, so why bother, might as well start from zero. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] 21:36, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:35, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete unless anyone rewrites before the deadline is up. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 19:42, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Possibly redirect to [[Critical mass]] or [[Critical Mass]]. But if not rewritten not to suck, do something to get rid of it. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 22:00, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Reads as somewhere between a political tract and a personal rant. Delete as POV source text. Note: At the bottom of [[Ramsgate]], the same author added a short summary of the group and its origins. If verifiable, the group might deserve an article, though I agree with [[User:Deb|Deb]] that the article should have been created at [[Critical Mass (pressure group)]]. In that case, the paragraph at the bottom of [[Ramsgate]] would be a better starting point than this tract. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] 22:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
OK! I confess it wasn't the best rant in the shop but it was honest, and Kiya Gowdie died in about 1997 beliving in his work. He was a personal friend. I hope the re write is suitable, its all true, and to the point Critical Mass Thanet was a source for the foundation of the London anti road lobby now global also named CM. [[User:Faedra|Faedra]] 01:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC) History of politics is suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia, but not rants.
* Delete. Our article on [[Critical Mass]] says that it started in San Francisco in 1992. If there's any support for Faedra's assertion that the Ramsgate folks had some role (practical or ideological) in forming the foundation for the current Critical Mass, then that should be included in the Critical Mass article in the discussion of its origins. [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 10:59, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep only if any of the groups mentioned in this, um, article have any relevance and/or Google hits. If so, send immediately to cleanup. If not, delete. [[User:Dwindrim|Denn]][[User_talk:Dwindrim|<font color=#118811>'''i'''</font>]] 03:06, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
*I've now deleted the article at [[CRITICAL MASS]] on the grounds that it was a duplicate following the rewrite. The comments above should therefore be taken as referring to the new article [[Critical mass (pressure group)]] -- which to me looks ''very'' similar to the original. [[User:Deb|Deb]] 17:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Vocabulary builder]]====
Advertisement, delete. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 17:59, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:38, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*<s>Keep, but remove spam, or add competing links. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 18:39, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)</s>
*Looks very non-notable. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 21:45, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*What would it take to keep? Replace the word "software" with "method," remove spam, rename the article, make sections expounding on each method... and it would still be not much more than a "how-to" article. All because someone wanted to advertise. Nope. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:47, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**You're right, somebody can start from scratch if they start an article. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:34, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[PhpAdsNew]]====
*Delete - advert for advert software - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 18:06, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Advert. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 21:02, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 21:45, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
====[[List of Spanish Verbs]]====
* Wikipedia is not a dictionary. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 19:00, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - No little squiggly required. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 19:44, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. WINA(S)D. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 21:01, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Limehead]]====
Band vanity page (zero google hits for it) mixed with patent nonsense. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 21:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I wish we could speedy delete these things. Delete ASAP. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 22:17, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*''Really'' bad vanity page. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 05:04, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete as both non-notable and as patent nonsense. Not funny enough for BJAODN, IMO. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:27, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Kyle Goslin]]====
Some kid who says he's in a band. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 21:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*According to the extenal link, the band Dropout has had 7 small gigs, 1 cancelled gig, no recordings. The other external, for the band 88 Precautions, has no content other than "Site under construction." The only Google hit for "Kyle Goslin" is a post he wrote to a message board. Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 04:14, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, unpublished bands with few gigs aren't notable. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:41, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Ronald L. Iman]]====
Doesn't seem to pass the "random professor" test. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 21:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - I was thinking about this one too. - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 22:07, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete, apparently not notable. Amazon lookup on "Modern business statistics" shows that it's out of print, NO reader reviews, NO other reviews. "A Data-based Approach to Statistics" is also out of print, has a "book description" but again NO reader reviews and NO other reviews. Unclear why [User:Rossumcapek] inserted the article. His other contributions look OK. The name Rossumcapek is presumably a reference to R. U. R. (Rossum's Universal Roborts) by [[Karel Capek|Karel Čapek]]... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 23:41, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*What's the "random professor" test? If this person has published a couple of scholarly books, then someone might want biographical information on him. For books of this type, I don't see Amazon as an important resource. '''Keep''' but I'm willing to be persuaded if there's some established policy that calls for deletion. [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 11:13, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I threw this together based on spotting a requested article for [[Latin hypercube sampling]]. Admittedly, there's not much here. Seems as though since someone requested the original article, a bit more biographical data on its creator might be welcome. I vote to keep this, but I have no real attachment to the article or the subject matter. [[User:Rossumcapek|Rossumcapek]] 20:42, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Long Nines]]====
Non famous. Did a search on "Long Nines" + rock and got 2 hits on google, one of which was their own website. -- [[User:Francs2000|Graham :)]] | [[User talk:Francs2000|Talk]] 22:21, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*delete --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 00:24, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I speedily deleted it. If anyone really wants it back, let me know. The content was <blockquote>
the long nines are a Tokyo-based rock and roll band."
</blockquote>
—[[User:Guanaco|Guan]][[User talk:Guanaco|aco]] 02:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[List of American recipes]]====
Not a list of recipes but a list of food items. A list of recipies links to wikibooks (And therefore does not belong here). short and orphaned --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 00:24, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* They aren't even all distinctly American. At least one ([[Mincemeat tart]]) is something I've never even heard in US usage. Articles on food topics should link directly to wikibooks recipes as appropriate, which leaves the list as a simple incomplete categorization. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 01:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* What in the name of all that's sane is "pickle pie?" Delete. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 06:48, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
=== June 9 ===
====[[CyberX]]====
From what little I and the BabelFish can discern, this is about an administrator from a German game. This game is so unremarkable that it doesn't have an article, and produces exactly no hits on Google. So why do we have an article on one of the admins? [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 00:24, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete - there's a lot of games out there and a lot of admins... - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 01:03, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Aren't foreign-language articles candidates for speedy deletion? [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 01:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Depends on the article. If it's a worthwhile article, it should be listed on [[Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English]] in the hope that someone will translate it. That page says "if someone speaks the language the article is written in and can state that it is not worth translating, the item should be moved to VfD", which I guess is the case hhere. The only case listed as a speedy deletion candidate is if someone copies an article from a foreign-language Wikipedia to the English one. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 01:55, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
***Ohhh. Thanks for clarifying. I vote delete, btw. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 03:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Having read the Google-translation, and noted that the website mentioned in the article doesn't even exist, I think this should certainly be deleted. —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 03:16, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
* Delete as is. I thought this was going to be about the Japanese trance band [http://www.avexnet.or.jp/cybertrance/cyberx/ Cyber X]. [[User:RadicalBender|R<small>ADICAL</small>B<small>ENDER</small>]][[User talk:RadicalBender|<small>★</small>]] 13:44, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Christine Lee Hanson]], [[Chris Mello]], [[Carol Flyzik]], [[Christine Snyder]], [[Brady Howell]]====
These individuals did nothing of note to warrant inclusion on wikipedia. --[[User:Jiang|Jia]][[User talk:Jiang|'''ng''']] 00:34, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Move to memorial and Delete - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 00:51, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Memorial and delete. All otherwise non-notable. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 01:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Memorial and delete. [[User:Premeditated Chaos|PMC]] 02:17, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Added VfD header to these. Add [[Sue Kim Hanson]] and [[Peter Burton Hanson]] to the list. All are old entries and pre-date the creation of Wikimemorial. Move all to Wikimemorial and delete. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] 02:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Thomas Sokol]] - Glee club part 1====
*Delete - vanity - local professor at Cornell - from the gleeclub website - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 00:50, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Cornell University Hangovers]] - Glee club part 2====
*Delete - vanity - more from the gleeclub at cornell university - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>Tεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>urε</font>]] 01:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Space Madness]]====
* Entertaining nonsense. A candidate for BJAODN. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 01:36, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Amusing, but delete. (The suggested article on Hollywood distortions of diseases might be encyclopedic, though.) [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] 02:12, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Haha, BJAODN and delete. "Some fine ''text book'' examples..." I love that part. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 03:03, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Definite BJAODN, and I'm a total fiend for the original "Ren and Stimpy." Delete and redirect there. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 14:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Glad to have amused you guys... I guess I should calm down and stop making posts like this, however, looks like it had some merit. Hears to [[free drinks]]! P.S. Is this where I vote to not delete? Or did I just do the opposite? --[[User:Dmb000006|Dan]] 20:58, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Template:Aotd]]====
Also the redirect [[MediaWiki:Aotd]]. Not updated and used only on [[User:Sennheiser|Sennheiser]]'s user page. Likely to confuse people who come across it thinking it really the article of the day when it isn't. Not updated since February. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 01:53, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 04:16, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Minnie Gertrude Matthews]] and [[R. G. Edwards]]====
These two people don't seem to have done anything noteworthy, but for living for a long time in the same place. Neither of them lived for an exceptionally long time or in an exceptional place (I've never been to Brampton, Ontario, so I'm guessing its not exceptional). I know they have been created seriously, but I don't think they have any encyclopedic worth. [[User:Joseph Philipsson|Joseph Philipsson]] 02:50, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Marginal keep on MG Matthews, since it seems like she may have some significance to the local history. It would be great for Wikipedia to have well-done articles on interesting bits of local history like this. No vote on RG Edwards, though. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 04:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Frank Holwell]]====
Australian primary school teacher. College professors get articles, but certaintly not ''primary school teachers''! [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 03:18, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Non-notable, mostly unverifiable, probably vanity. Delete. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 04:14, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*5 google hits for ''"Frank Holwell" Sorrento '', delete -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 04:37, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Absolutely, positively delete. This would be the start of an exceptionally ugly trend if allowed to stay. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Agreed. --[[User:Revragnarok|Revragnarok]] 11:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 12:54, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Not notable enough, sorry. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 13:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Biomatics]] and [[Bioinfotronics]]====
* Idiosyncratic neologisms coined by [[Jong Park]] whose vanity page was [[Wikipedia:archived delete debates/June 9|recently deleted]]. Google hits are WP, mirrors, and Jong Park's web sites. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 03:44, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I could have tolerated it a little bit, but then I realised it was an acronym. Delete! [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless]] 03:54, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete both. Biomatics was coined eight years ago and still not in use by anyone but Jong. What do you call a neologism that isn't new? [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 03:59, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*DELET ('''D'''isappear '''E'''ntirely, '''L'''eaving '''E'''phemeral '''T'''alk), for good reasons given by others. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:32, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[John Nebthos]]====
reads like nonsense (i.e. "opium laced cheese"). Can't verify via google. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Rex]] 04:10, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Agree. Sounds like nonsense, 8 google hits for "John Nebthos", the link provided is highly suspect, etc. Delete unless someone can verify this in more detail. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 04:23, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Actually, it's a cleverly disguised advert. At the external link we learn that Josh H. Betonn (anagram of John Nebthos) is the creator of the site. On a subpage [http://www.whoisjohnnebthos.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4] we learn that this is a riddle that is supposed to be solved, and looks like pre-release hype for something. Delete advert. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 06:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Interestingly, the article content doesn't match the history given at the external site. I was able to find a few people, and one ship, named Ivan Nesterov, but none match the article content. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:01, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**And for the finale: the article states that Nebthos submitted the copyright symbol in a US-government sponsored contest around the year 1841. Actually, UNESCO introduced the symbol in 1952 at the Universal Copyright Convention [http://portal.unesco.org/culture/en/ev.php@URL_ID=1814&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html]. The symbol was later adopted by the US when the US codified its own copyright laws. This article is complete nonsense. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:35, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. I live in the Louisville area, and I suspect that if there was a local historic brothel keeper who invented the copyright symbol, I'd have heard of it by now. [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] 14:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[List of non-Puerto Rican residents of Puerto Rico]]====
Please. What's next? [[List of non-American residents of the United States]]? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 04:23, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Agree. Besides it seems antagonistic. [[User:KeithTyler|KeithTyler]] 04:36, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*How about [[List all non-Puerto Ricans that ever had a holiday in Puerto Rico]]? -- Delete -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 04:36, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete per reasons stated. This is useless information. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 05:36, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*A giant "who gives?" here. DELETE ;) --[[User:Revragnarok|Revragnarok]] 11:22, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*delete. large stupidity. but I think that a [[List of non-Martians residents of Earth]] would be interesting.-[[User:PedroPVZ|Pedro]] 19:26, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. Lists much sillier than this have been kept, even after VfD. [[User:Wyllium|Wyllium]] 20:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Extensive farming]]====
Dictdef [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 04:31, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 04:34, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 05:03, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*A very easy delete [[User:Hypernovean|TPK]] 11:45, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Delete [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 12:49, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. I think that this article can be expanded to be very worthy of being on Wikipedia. ''Extensive'' farming is actually a very ''extensive'' subject.
====[[Paradoxism]]====
* Vanity article promoting [[Florentin Smarandache]]. Every now and then an anonymous editor comes around to add more Smarandache promo material. Smarandache has a long, obnoxious history of promoting himself in various Internet forums and Wikipedia in particular, both in person and through sock puppets. This is just more of the same, and we can expect him to persist indefinitely. Away with it. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 06:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Well, just how notable is he? I think if he's notable enough to be included, his theories probably are, too, assuming they are something he is known for. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 07:02, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** You'll find Smarandache all over the web, where he has placed advertisements in the mouths of sock puppets far and wide. He's exploited several means of free self promotion -- Usenet, Yahoo groups, mailing lists, Sloane's catalog of integer sequences, and, of course, Wikipedia. See [[User:Smarandache fan]] for starters, and then see the two VfD discussions at [[talk:Florentin Smarandache]]. In addition to the endless promo material, Smarandache might have a couple of peer reviewed publications; be that as it may, it's not enough for a notable reputation. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 20:01, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Neutrosophy]]====
* Vanity article promoting [[Florentin Smarandache]]. As with [[paradoxism]]. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 06:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Dressed to Kill (television)]]====
* Google doesn't recognize this as existing; neither does IMDB. Almost certainly made up. -[[User:Gtrmp|Sean Curtin]] 07:00, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I ''hope'' that wasn't a real storyline. Sounds like a boy and girl passing a script back-and-forth, each taking a turn developing a story. And a bad effort at that. It's listed as an episode of [[My Life as a Teenage Robot]], but it is strange that this one, well down the list, is the ONLY one to be developed. Unless someone can verify the article, I tend to agree with Sean. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 10:32, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Kiddie-wiki and nonsense. Pull the plug. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 16:10, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Should have been speedy deleted. Delete now. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 21:08, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Kiwi]]====
I want this page deleted and rename [[Kiwi (disambiguation)]] to Kiwi. A disambiguation page should be the word that is in need of disambiguation. [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 10:22, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*I made [[Kiwi]] into the disambiguation page by copying the text from [[Kiwi (disambiguation)]]. Now the latter is a redundant page that can be removed. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 10:37, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Honestly why didn't you just leave things the way they were. This has been discussed several times over the years (see [[Talk:Culture_of_New_Zealand]] and [[Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation/Archive 3]]) the consensus was the article Kiwi should be about the bird and have a link to a disambiguation page. There are over 50 articles currently linking to [[Kiwi]] and the vast majority are for the bird. -- [[User:Popsracer|Popsracer]] 11:18, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. IMO Kiwi should be the bird, other meanings are derivative, as at the date of writing. But more to the point, the idea that all (disambiguation) pages should be removed would represent a major change of policy, and should be discussed in the appropriate places. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 13:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Keep Kiwi as the bird. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 14:50, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Kiwi should link directly to the page about the bird. [[User:Average Earthman|Average Earthman]] 16:24, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Dossier]]====
*Dicdef. [[User:Lady Lysine Ikinsile|Lady Lysine Ikinsile]] 11:40, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*[[m:Transwiki|Transwiki]]'d to [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Transwiki:Dossier Wiktionary], so delete. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 11:46, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Miguel Rosario]]====
* Vanity listing for an aspiring journalist trying to promote their non-notable website. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 13:08, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* This is a user page too!
::No, it is an encyclopedia article. It is very suitable for the user page [[User:Mrosarionyc]] which currently does not exist. I suggest that [[User:Mrosarionyc]] move the page, by clicking on the Move button and then typing User:Mrosarionyc as the place to move it to. Once is in Mrosarionyc's user area, he is free to remove the VfD notice and do almost whatever he wants with the page within fairly broad limits. Personal material is great here. About the only things that are out of bounds would be material that is grossly offensive to most readers, or material that is so voluminous that it amounts to using Wikipedia as a web hosting service (see [[What Wikipedia is not]]). [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:20, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* nope, it's an article. Delete, or at the very least re-write to proper NPOV.
*Move to [[User:Mrosarionyc]]. Hopefully Miguel Rosario will do this himself. Then the resulting redirect at [[Miguel Rosario]] should be deleted. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:20, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 14:29, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Page moved to User:Mrosarionyc. Thanks! --[[User:Mrosarionyc|Miguel Rosario]]
'''Note:''' The encyclopedia article entitled [[Miguel Rosario]] was
*originally created by [[User:Mrosarionyc]]
*has now been moved to [[User:Mrosarionyc]] (i.e. his own user page) by [[User:Mrosarionyc]]
*was then blanked (all content removed) by [[User:Mrosarionyc]].
I'm considering that this, together with the above discussion, amounts to tacit agreement by [[User:Mrosarionyc]] that the encyclopedia article [[Miguel Rosario]] should be deleted, which I have done. Further discussion, if any, can continue here for the usual VfD period. The former contents of the page can be viewed at [[User:Mrosarionyc]] and can be restored if discussion and consensus should indicate any need to do so. Thanks for your cooperation, Miguel, and welcome to Wikipedia. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 16:25, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Robert Merkel]]====
* Unnecessary listing of a web novice. So delete. --[[User:Mrosarionyc|Miguel Rosario]] 9:46, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*it's a User page![[User:Datepalm17|Datepalm17]] 13:58, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::No, it isn't. As I write, this, anyway, [[User:Robert Merkel]] is a user page... but [[Robert Merkel]] is a redirect to [[User:Robert Merkel]].
*Delete the [[Robert Merkel]] page itself, but, of course, '''do not''' delete the [[User:Robert Merkel]] user page. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:06, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* I will delete the redirect. The redirect dates from the introduction of namespaces; it was the practice back then. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 14:27, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Patrick van Katwijk]]====
*Delete. non-notable, un-googlable. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 14:46, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*He does seem to have been a photographer, and Google did return his website, but it's in Dutch. I'm not sure how notable he is/was. Not many hits other than his own site. [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 15:01, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Paul Gentle]] and [[Daisy Mctavish]]====
*Non-notable blog stuff. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 14:50, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 15:05, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Hancock Place]]====
Redundant (with [[John Hancock Tower]]), and exceedingly editorialistic. What NPOV material there is has been merged into the other article. Furthermore the text already exists on an external site (a link to which has been added to the merged-into article). [[User:KeithTyler|KeithTyler]] 04:36, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC) Oh, and maybe I should mention that the name is not an accurate one for the subject matter. [[User:KeithTyler|KeithTyler]] 04:56, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC) ''(somehow this vfd entry got erased)''
====[[Morsels]]====
Dicdef, cannot see any potential here... - [[User:Lady Lysine Ikinsile|Lady Lysine Ikinsile]] 17:01, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Pointless, delete. [[User:Wyllium|Wyllium]] 20:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Aggemam]]====
Obscure Danish slang term. [[User:Smack|--Smack]] 17:33, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Fixed the vfd header which wasn't inserted properly. for future reference, it's just '''{<i></i>{vfd}}'''. Delete, I guess. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 17:55, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 18:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Lecnac]]====
*Almost a speedy candidate. m-w.com doesn't know the word, and no relevant hits--there are 2000, but they all seem to refer to a userID, or the fact that it is "cancel" backwards. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 18:30, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
:*Neutral, but searches on lecnacing, lecnac fraction, and lecnac fractions return a few mathematical papers from Mathsphere [[User:KeithTyler|KeithTyler]] 19:54, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*There's a related subsub about [[Lecnacing]] that I posted as a speedy. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 22:15, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Studley]]====
What is this? I thought London was the largest. --[[User:Merovingian|Merovingian]] ↕ [[User talk:Merovingian|T@Lk]] 18:28, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*It might be a question of legal distinctions--London might be classified as a city while this is the largest legal village, or something of that sort. No vote. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 18:40, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**Perhaps move to cleanup? --[[User:Merovingian|Merovingian]] ↕ [[User talk:Merovingian|T@Lk]] 18:45, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Keep, list on Cleanup. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 21:13, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Hipmeistology]]====
This page has already been deleted once. [[User:Lunchboxhero|Lunchboxhero]] 19:10, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*In that case, sir, I believe it is a candidate for speedy deletion! Yay! [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User Talk:blankfaze|••]] 20:10, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
** Yup. It's gone now (again). For the record, see: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_log_archive/May_2004_%283%29] [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 20:19, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*What is the reasoning for deleting Hipmeistology page?
====[[Alcopunk]]====
This looks like a [[neologism]] (see [http://www.google.com/search?q=Alcopunk&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 google]), and therefore not something that should be in an encyclopedia. [[User:Thue|Thue]] 20:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Comment: Unsure. I have heard this term used elswhere, despite its poor Google showing. But this isn't a good stub IMO. It seems to be part of a network of edits by [[user:Pepus]], who seems to be a fan, manager or member of [[Destyl]], allegedly an alcopunk band. The punk rock articles in general seem to be a hotbed of advertising and autobiography in fact. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 21:04, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
**I tried googling for [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=Destyl+punk&btnG=Search Destyl punk], and found enough hits (in Czech, so I am not sure how relevant they are) not to list them on vfd. [[User:Thue|Thue]] 21:16, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Cingoz the Saint Cat]]====
No idea what this is. [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Cingoz+the+Saint+Cat%22&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 No google hits]. [[User:Thue|Thue]] 20:49, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*Should have been speedly deleted. Delete now. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 21:17, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*I voted delete as well, but my original vote seems to have vanished. Second time's a charm. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 22:18, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
*And my vote to delete disappeared, too. [[User:Joy Stovall|Joyous]] 22:20, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
**I had to revert to an earlier version of VfD because the page was duplicated. See the Talk page. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:23, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
====[[Squee]]====
Dictdef of a made up non-word. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:09, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
==== [[Media coverage of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict]] ====
* A blatant editorial. For shame. 22:21, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
* Keep. The last failed attempt to VFD it was in May 2004. Note, the argument doesn't go further than accusations in POV or that the article simply "stinks". The [[fact]]s must be analyzed in an encyclopedic manner. [[User:Humus sapiens|<nowiki></nowiki>]]←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]]←[[User talk:Humus sapiens|Talk]] 22:37, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Peter Atkins]]====
A one-sentence "bio"? Is this person encyclopedic? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:41, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
*Not in my book, at least not like this. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 23:04, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Joshua Bryant]]====
A {presumed} crime victim of no other apparent notoriety. [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 22:45, Jun 9, 2004 (UTC)
The story has garned massive media coverage (particularly in the south eastern US) since 2001 [[User:Zerbey|Zerbey]] 22:51, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
====[[Hatem Elmohandis]]====
*Vanity, pure and simple. - [[User:Lucky 6.9|Lucky 6.9]] 23:01, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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