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==Name==

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"Carnival Corporation & Plc", is that a UK subsidiary?--[[User:Jerryseinfeld|Jerryseinfeld]] 00:19, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

'''Filter Forge''' is a plugin for [[Adobe Photoshop]] allowing computer artists to build their own filters, including seamless [[Bitmap textures|textures]], visual effects, distortions, patterns, backgrounds, and more. The key features of Filter Forge include a visual filter editor and a free online library of user-created filters to which anyone can contribute.

*No it's a [[dual listed company]]. [[User:Carina22|Carina22]] 5 July 2005 03:21 (UTC)

== Merger and the Surviving Corporate Name==

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In regards to a statement made in [[Carnival Corporation & Plc]] by [[User:Carina22]] stating that Carnival Corporation & Plc was formerly known as P&O Princess is incorrect! Carnival Corporation was a separate independently operated cruise line owned by Micky Arison and his family for nearly 40 years and P&O Princess was a United Kingdom publicly traded cruise line to which Mr. Arison and his family had absolutely '''NO''' affiliation with until the Carnival-P&O Princess merger occurred. So basically after the merger was completed P&O Princess became a subsidary of Carnival and the P&O name was dropped in favor of the Carnival name but the way you wrote it, it made it look like Carnival was always called P&O Princess which as stated before is an incorrect statement to make. [[User:Misterrick]] 05:10, 05 July 2005 (UTC).

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:No it isn't a subsidiary, it is a [[dual listed company]]. This is an unusual arrangement, so read the article if you don't know what it means. So far as I know Carnival is the only major "American" dual listed company, but we have several in the UK so we are more familiar with the concept. [[User:Carina22|Carina22]] 06:37, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Again, In accurate statements being made by [[User:Carina22|Carina22]]. Yes, P&O Princess did become a subsidary under the new dual listed company and again Carnival was never formerly known as P&O Princess, As stated before P&O Princess was a separate company that mergered with Carnival, In fact Carnival was started 40 years before Princess even existed so how can Carnival have been formerly known as P&O Princess when P&O Princess didn't even exist when Carnival was first started by Micky Arison's father? Additionally on the Carnival Corporation & Plc website it states, "On April 17, 2003, Carnival Corporation (NYSE: CCL) and P&O Princess Cruises plc (LSE: POC) merged via a dual listed company structure (DLC). Subsequently, P&O Princess Cruises plc has changed its name to Carnival plc." so there is no way that Carnival could ever have been formerly known as P&O Princess. [[User:Misterrick|Misterrick]] 19:52, 12 July 2005 (UTC).

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::No, Carnival '''plc''' ''was'' formerly P&O Princess Cruises. The problem is that you still don't understand what a [[dual listed company]] is. The quotation you give does '''not''' state or imply that P&O Princess Cruises plc became a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation, because it didn't. They both became holding companies of a dual listed company. Carnival Corporation was never called P&O Princess, but Carnival '''Plc''' was. This is possible because Carnival Corporation and Carnival Plc are '''two''' ''separate'', independently quoted companies. Carnival plc is the '''same''' legal entity as P&O Princess Cruises with the same shareholder body but a different name, just the same as if Ford changed its name to Detroit Motors it would be the same legal entity with the same shareholder body. The only difference is that now Carnival Plc is one of the two holding companies of Carnival Corporation & Plc. Corporation and Plc are '''two''' companies with separate shareholder bodies and ''neither owns the other'', which is a what being a [[dual listed company]] is about.

::Deleting a paragraph and marking that as a minor edit is not appropriate.

::And finally P&O is a lot older than Carnival Corporation. The Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company was founded in 1837, and P&O Princess Cruises demerged from it on 23 October 2000.[[User:Carina22|Carina22]] 09:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

You know Carina22, I'll let you have it because your being such an a--hole, I do know what a dual listed company is but you can't get it through your head what I am trying to tell you and by the way P&O doesn't stand for Princess and Orient, it's Pacific and Orient and P&O didn't found Princess they acquired it in the 60s or 70s so Carnival Cruise Lines is older. [[User:Misterrick|Misterrick]] 21:15, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

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== Key Features ==

I have to disagree with Carina22 on this one as well. This demerger thing is giving me a headache.

* '''Filter Editor'''

From what I understand using my own knowledge:

*Carnival Cruise Lines is formed by Arison

*P&O Princess Cruises is formed later by P&O

*Carnival Corp/PLC is formed after Carnival gobbles up a bunch of other cruise lines. The Corp/PLC puts all of the lines (Carnival/HAL/Costa) under one umbrella)

*Princess Cruises demerges from the main P&O and becomes it's own company dealing only with cruises (The company has several cruise brands under its umbrella)

*Carnival and Princess merge, or perhaps Princess is bought out. Anyway, Princess becomes another cruise brand under the umbrella of Carnival Corp/PLC

I don't think Carnival was ever called P&O BEFORE the two companies merged. They had no relations with each other until the merger.

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Here is the company history website: [[http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=200767&p=irol-history]]

* '''Online Filter Library'''

*It says that in 2003, Carnival Corp (including brands Carnival/HAL etc) merged with P&O Princess Cruises plc (consisting of Princess, P&O, and AIDA cruises). Perhaps the names were merged to become Carnival Corporation & plc

After further research, I found this confusing text from cruisecritic.com about Princess:

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*Princess is now part of the industry's giant Carnival Corporation a move that occurred when Carnival acquired the cruise line's parent company -- U.K.-based P&O Cruises.

And regarding P&O Cruises ...

* '''Seamless Tiling'''

*It acquired Los Angeles-based Princess Cruises in 1974 and Sitmar Cruises in 1988, which P&O chose to merge. Even more expansion followed for its Princess Cruises subsidiary. In October 2000, the company underwent another major change: P&O's parent company was acquired by Carnival Corporation and is now known as P&O Princess.

And Taken from P&O Cruises' website:

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*In April 2004 P&O Princess plc, the parent company of P&O Cruises, joined together with Carnival Corporation, bringing together two of the best known and most successful organisations in the cruise industry. Already Britain’s market leading cruise company, P&O Cruises is now part of one of the world’s largest leisure travel companies.

*P&O Princess Cruises demerged from the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company on 23 October 2000 when it started trading as an independent company on the London and New York Stock Exchanges. Carnival Plc is now the third largest cruise company in the world by revenue

* '''Bump and Normal Maps'''

'''In conclusion,''' I'm totally confused!

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==Ships==

* '''Resolution Independence'''

you listed historic cunard ships like RMS Queen Elizabeth 1940 and old Carpathia under Carnival Corp. ships. What's that? It's wrong!

QE 2 and QM 2 are okay. 10:01, July,29th 2005 DEF

:I'd argue that since Cunard is now a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation, that these were correctly placed. As would RMS Titanic for example. However it would have to be properly noted. [[User:JonEastham|JonEastham]] 15:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

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So, how come I can't get to a P&O Cruises (Australia) or a P&O Cruises (UK) page where I would find info on the ships Pacific Sky, Pacific Star, Pacific Sun or Arcadia, Artemis, Aurora, Oceana, Oriana and soon Ventura? Where is all this located? Because when I search for P&O Cruises, I'm basically told it doesn't exist, when it does. --[[User:Eeclwa|Eeclwa]] 21:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

== Technology ==

* '''[[HDRI]] Lighting'''

I agree that P&O cruises should have it's own page, Carnival may own P&O, but it owns Princess to and they have their own page (incidentally P&O took over Princess before both brands were taken over by Carnival, deepening the injustice!) P&O Cruises has a history of over 100 years that stretches back way before Carnival comes along. Just because we trade as Carnival now (ok, so the cat's out of the bag, I work for P&O, well, Cunard, but that's another rant...) we still trade as P&O in the UK, most people don't know who Carnival are!

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<br /> I'll agree to the last two comments. Definately something that needs doing one day. [[User:Newda898|Newda898]] 21:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

* '''16- and 32-Bit Image Modes'''

:I started a separate article for [[P&O Cruises]]. It's a tad shortish as I didn't dare to get into the company history after all this confusion... so if anyone can wrap their heards around this better than me, go and improve the article right now! - [[User:Kjet|Kjet]] 11:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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Great idea, it was the pain of taking a leap and starting it that seemed so daunting. Ah well, there's a project for the Easter holidays! [[User:Newda898|Newda898]] 18:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

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== Titanic ==

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Yes Carnival did not own Titanic, but threw the purchase of Cunard, it has become part of its history. Please do not just revert back with talking about it. -[[User:Texaswebscout|Ben]] 02:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

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* '''Huge Resolutions'''

The biggest one we tried was 65536x65536 pixels – and it worked! Granted, it took hours, but anyway! Furthermore, the interface remained responsive – we were able to zoom and pan the preview while rendering that monstrosity.

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