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'''Dno''' ([[Russian language|Russian]]: Дно) is a town and municipality situated in the northeastern part of the [[Pskov Oblast]] of western [[Russia]]. The municipality, which covers an area of 1,194 km², has a population of around 15,500.

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Founded as a [[railway]] centre in [[1897 ]](Dno lies at the important crossing-point of the [[St Petersburg]] to [[Vitebsk]] and [[Moscow]] to [[Pskov]] routes), the town remains to a large degree economically dependent upon rail-related activities.

== The Clash ==

Agriculturally, the district is noted for meat and dairy production, as well as for its extensive [[peat]] resources.

Thanks for that, I believe the section in question was accurate, but it does need a citation. Best as always, [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 21:04, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

==External Userboxeslinks==

*[http://www.pskov.ru/en/administrative_division/dnovsky Dno District – official site]

{{Uncategorized|date=June 2007}}

Hello Guinnog! Thank you for welcoming me on Wikipedia on my talk page. You are the first to do that in....uhh..a long time! Anyway, I need help on making userboxes. I've read the Wikipedia page on Userboxes, but it's too complicated for me to understand. Please leave me a message on my talk page. Also, I need to know how old i can be to be an admin. I have my thoughts on becoming one. Thanks a lot! ¡Adios amigo! [[User:Kyo cat|Kyo cat]] 00:50, 2 October 2006 (UTC)Kyo cat

== Advice solicited ==

Acting as his advocate, I've been discussing the 'datelinking conflict' with Hmains [[User:Pedant/Hmains|here]], if you have any input on the issue would you please drop me a note on [[User talk:Pedant|my talk page]] ? Thanks very much. [[User:Pedant|User:Pedant]] 18:01, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Repeated rudeness and threats of rollback ==

Can you please help calm [[User talk:DeLarge]] down? What is happening to manners on Wikipedia? [[User:Bobblewik|bobblewik]] 19:54, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

== Editing grammar and spelling ==

Hey, I fixed a spelling error (fexing to fixing), which is ironic since you said that you fix spelling errors yourself, unless you were trying to be funny and did that on purpose, oh well. Also, I took the liberty in correcting your misplaced periods. Periods are always inside the ending quotation mark. "Simple." Have a nice day.[[User:Wi-king|Wi-king]] 05:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for that. I always did think it looked funny. ;) --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 05:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

== Would you be interested? ==

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== NPA article ==

Hello.

Myself and [[User:Cswrye]] are currently discussing rating an article within Wikiproject: Psychology - specifically [[NPA personality theory]]. Would it be possible for you to provide additional insight, as and when it is convenient? Thank you! :)-- [[User:D-Katana|D-Katana]] 13:58, 04 October 2006

== The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - October 2006 ==

The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Outreach/Newsletter October 2006|October 2006 issue]]''' of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

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== International Chess University ==

Hi!

I am a student in first International Chess University. I saw that you removed the link I contributed. IchessU is the first real international chess universtity. International Chess University is a very serious organization, specializes on giving live audio and video chess lessons. Actually, this is the only link in the list of learning chess links which is really rellevant to learning chess. Although am a student there but I am not paid for bringing people in. I just want people to know about the site. I really believe that IchessU is a site may interest many people as it has one of the best FREE playgrounds + it's unique international chess university. IchessU is listed under external links and suppose just to provide people with information, as main Wikipedia purpose is. It's NOT a commercial or personal-website link !!! I agree that Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising but a site which suppose provide people with information and this is exactly what I tried to do.

I even opened a discussion group on this topic.

I agree that a link to ichessu in every section under "External Links" might look like a spam. I will not spam the ads, so I am returning the link to learning section only.

Please dont remove it anymore.

Best Regards, Alik Fishman {{unsigned|Alikfi}}

I did open a discussion topic. People suggested to publish the link only once. That's what I did.

Please withdraw your objection and republish the link.

By the way, I suggest you to visit the university and have impressions by yourself.

Thanks in advance {{unsigned|Alikfi}}

"Alfiki, you added a link to ichessu in every section under "External Links". Don't spam your ads, pick one section and be done with it. Banaticus 09:32, 1 October 2006 (UTC)" {{unsigned|Alikfi}}

==Knife crime in Glasgow==

What about that article did you not see as saying there is a knifecrime problem in Glasgow? I am going to edit it again.

Please, do not vandalize my edits without giving a real reason. [[User:Nlsanand|Nlsanand]] 04:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Not trying to spin it. Wanted to put the link in. Reword it if you want (within reason). I am not trying to put Glasgow in a negative light. Keep in mind, the crime section is only a couple of sentences long, and it is a major problem in Glasgow. Wanted to give some context to measures implemented by police. [[User:Nlsanand|Nlsanand]] 05:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Safe travel ==

Take care Mr Guinnog. Catch up when you get back. :) [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 06:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

== Nitrous oxide ==

Hi Guinnog, good work on the [[nitrous oxide]] article! My compliments! --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] ^{[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]} 09:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

== Your MedCom Nomination ==

We have not heard back from you on your mediation committee nomination, specifically a request by a current member for more information on your part. If you could please take a look at it and reply, that would be great. Thanks.

''For the Mediation Committee,''

-<span style="color:red;font-weight:bold">^</span>[[User:^demon|<span style="color:black;font-weight:bold;">demon</span>]]^{[[User_talk:^demon|<span style="color:red">[yell at me]</span>]]}&nbsp;<em style="font-size:10px;">21:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)</em>

==User: Wahkeenah==

The [[User: Wahkeenah]] seems to have a fascination with edit waring. Is it possible to have him warned. He coninuously deletes posts, and comments on his user page without rational, while violating 3RR. When request for reasons for deletion are made, he gives no legitimate response. See [[Cesar Chavez]] for examples. [[User:67.162.212.254|67.162.212.254]] 22:55, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

*There have been repeated attempts by (apparently) various users to revise the wiki policy manual on biographies (and always in the same poorly-written phraseology) to "allow" race and sexual orientation to be cited in the opening paragraph... including, if I recall, the one who just posted the above. That's what this is about. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 23:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

**He'll just come back as another user. This started (or at least my part of it did) with user Cliesthenes and the Rosie O'Donnell page. User Dcflyer was actually fighting this vandal before I was, and I'm guessing Cliesthenes and its many sockpuppets have "reported" him also. Unfortunately, the admin who blocked me for 3 hours at the time of the Rosie O'Donnell dispute did not bother to look any further into it, so I concluded admins were not really interested in the details. Maybe it was just that one. Anyway, if I see further attempts at that same vandalism on [[Rosie O'Donnell]], [[César Chávez]], [[Lance Bass]] and/or [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)]] by (apparently) that same user, I will let you know. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 23:59, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

***And by the way, I was right, that 67...254 user (and various sockpuppets) is also engaged in an edit battle with user Dcflyer. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 00:10, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

****That user, or a sockpuppet, is trying to start a debate on the [[Talk:César Chávez#Request for comment]] page. He knows full well what the issue is. He's just trying to accelerate the conflict. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 00:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

::Please explain how [[Wahkeenah]] can violate several policies, and go against clear consensus on a talk page, and I am the one in trouble? I made a reasonable edit. Other posters ahve agreed with it. All I recieved in return from [[Wahkeenah]] and Dcflyer, was revision, after revision in violation of3RR. I pointed this out to both of the m. I attempted to get help from several admins. Instead, I get in trouble. {{unsigned|67.162.212.254}}

::How is saying [[Cesar Chavez]] is a mexican american wrong? One user cited an article from the library of Congress that refers to him as such. It is not POV, or vandalism. The mostvalid response given against the change was that someone tried change a policy. So what? That fact has no effect on the change to [[Cesar Chavez]]. They aren't even related. Furthermore, the current policy [[Wahkeenah]] refers to even explicitly allows for the change.

::When do admins actually enforce the rules? Warnings cannot be deleted from user pages. [[Dcflyer]], and [[Wahkeenah]] are allowed to break this rule. Edit wars are not allowed to occur, yet [[Dcflyer, and [[Wahkeenah]] can break the rules. 3RR is not allowed to occur, yet [[Dcflyer]], and [[Wahkeenah]] break it at will. Consensus needs to be achieved for a change, yet [[Dcflyer]] and [[Wahkeenah]] are allowed to break this. Good faith must be assumed, yet [[Dcflyer]], and [[Wahkeenah]] can assume a giant conspiracy, and ignore statements from other posters.

::When will an admin actually enforce what is said. If I broke the rules--punish me. However, I am far from the only guilty party here.

::I only wanted to make some changes for the better, yet any change I make I get called a vandal, and harassed by [[Dcflyer]], and [[Wahkeenah]]. When will it end? 01:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC){{unsigned|67.162.212.254}}

I think you will find that the now-banned user Cliesthenes is the source of all of this stuff, including changing the policy manual to justify its own arguments, and that there was in fact no consensus at all to do so. The dead giveaway is the re-insertion of the identical and grammatically questionable sentences by several "different" users, as well as posting a specifically worded paragraph "warning" us against deleting vandal-posted comments on our own talk pages. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 01:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

: I don't have time to look at this now until afternoon GMT tomorrow. If anyone else wants to chime in here in the meantime? Please sign your posts, 67.162.212.254 --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 02:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wahkeenah]], you are dumber then I thought. I am not banned. I am not even the anon poster you claim I am. Your entire argument is full of holes. I asked the guy to help me make an edit or two for the better. He helped. As for you, unlike an adult, you decided to assume the world was coming to an end because someone wanted to place the term "homosexual" in a heading. Even when requesting rational for your deletions, you ignored the requests, and acted like a cranky child. The pathetic part is you are still discussing it. Face the fact, not every poster who disagrees with you is me. I haven't posted as Cliesthenesin a month.Heck, I haven't even been reported for a month. Oh, and in case you are too stupid to realize, I haven't been banned. On a personal note, get a life. It is clear Wikipedia isn't helping in that area. Have a nice life. [[User:Cliesthenes|Cliesthenes]] 04:21, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:Apparently I was mistaken about that user being banned. The above comments say a lot about that user's general attitude. It only went away for awhile, as users will sometimes do when they are ''threatened'' with banishment. Be that as it may, [[User talk:Dcflyer]] also contains references to that user and its various (apparent) sockpuppets' continued disruptions, POV-pushing and the clincher (conveniently left out of the above) of trying to change the wording in [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)]] to aid in that POV-pushing. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 05:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:::[[User:Cliesthenes|Cliesthenes]] wrote above, "I asked the guy to help me make an edit or two for the better. He helped." I think that would fall under [[Internet_sock_puppet#Meatpuppet|meatpuppet]]. And now, "suddenly," Cliesthenes has reappeared right after [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] and I independently raised his/her name in comments. If you have a chance, please take a look at my comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:C%C3%A9sar_Ch%C3%A1vez#Request_for_comment here]. It contains relevant links. Thank you. -- [[User:Dcflyer|Dcflyer]] 11:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I have apologized to user "LittleOldMe" for implicitly lumping him in as one of Cliesthenes' sockpuppets, as it appears that he has done other work and simply stumbled into this fiasco. Meanwhile, to be accused by Cliesthenes of being dumber "then" he thought is too funny for words. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 12:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

::[Wahkeenah]] get a life. Not everyone is a sockpuppet. From your postings on this page alone, you have accused three people of being me. When will you learn? Are you literaly so stupid you cannot see what is going on here? This whole situation was/is caused by you. Instead of acting like an adult, you act like a child. You accuse numerous posters of being a sockpuppet. You claim random IPs are me. Looking at your postings, you have even claimed several other screen names are me. Don't you think you are over-reacting? This is wikipedia ... not the national archives. Secondly, what is the worst thing I have done? Make a change to policy I felt needed correction, and was in a rational and legitimate interest? State that well-known homosexuals are homosexuals? Neither of these actions are illegal. They are not libel. You just disagree with them. Is your opinion so much better than everyone else's opinion.

::I only came back because I passed by your posting on Cesar Chavez and I felt bad--and slightly bewildered at your stupidity. I came here to attempt to defend the guy. He helped me make a change or two that we both agreed with. You simply overreacted. Just let it go. Starting a war with every edit is a bit much. Looking at your user page should be evidence of this fact.

::To be honest, this whole situation would end if you acted like a mature adult. Instead of trying to claim everyone is a sockpuppet, or any change is vandalism, or reverting changes numerous times; try leaving the page for a day and come back if you disagree with the change. Or even better, try actually trying to come to a consensus. However, I get the feeling that letting a small thing you disagree with pass (even for an hour) is too a bit too much. Heck, even asking for your rational for your changes is too much (even when someone you admit is not me asked).

::I feel bad for whatever his IP is, however, I feel even worse for you. Assuming for a moment, either I, or he gets banned. What does that accomplish? Do you reallt think it is that hard to get an new IP address? In the past month, you claimed I have had numerous IPs.

::All I ask is that byou act like a rational adult. Isn't the whole point of this website to try to come to some consensus, and state real fact? WHy are you hiding real fact, without even giving a reason? [[User:Cliesthenes|Cliesthenes]] 17:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:::The other user, Dcflyer, already proved the case, including your continual attempts to change the wiki manuals to support what you want to change in the articles. [[User:Wahkeenah|Wahkeenah]] 17:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

::Enlighten me. What "case" has he proven? The five pages, and days of work on [[user:hollywolly]] that accomplished nothing? I felt bad for that user too. In case you haven't paid attention (all it takes is looking at [[user:dcflyer]]'s talk page to see this info). Hollywolly was not me, and had no relation to me. Furthermore, what court was this "case" argued in?

::What continued edits have I made? Please show me where I made this "continued" edit. I checked my contributions. They seem to be nonexistent. You seem to think I care about this stuff. Honestly, I created this account to play arround a little. In doing so, I got the best of you--as is obvious since you continue to discuss this crap. If you hadn't reacted like you did, it wouldn't have been fun. It appears others have taken notice and are playing the same games with you. Do you get what I have been trying to say? Just let it go.

::Trolls don't like it when you stop paying attention to them. I haven't done anything--even remotley--wrong in awhile. Please show my connection? What is my IP address? Is it the same? How am I connected to the various posts? Did you do a check user? Or is this--accusation--simply your, or Dcflyer's opinion?

::Guinnog, I have no problem with you. I respect any decision you make. Even if it includes blocking this account/IP. I appologize for making what seemed to be personnal attacks. You must understand the annoyance of what is occuring. A group of posters are literally claiming numerous people are me. It simply isn't true. Even Wahkeenah has admitted at least once, that the accusation has been false. It appears he wants to pull the trigger to early in his assumption. However, I still believe every edit I made was well intentioned, and within the limits of of WP:BLP. I have not once posted a single false thing about any individuals. In fact, without my help, several of the edits were made and have remained on pages for several days without the actions of the above mentioned posters. A prime example is [[Rosie Odonnell]]. See the first paragraph. Furthermore, the actions of the above mentioned posters have also violated WP:BLP. Isn't it their duty to assume that the edits are made in good faith. Not every edit is vandalism. Particularly when the edit is based on a rationale for what a person is known for. For example, Rosie O'Donnell is well known for having come out. Adding this was considered vandalism without any rational. The same with Ellen Degeneres. This goes even farther. The [[Cesar Chaves]] reversion by the above mentioned posters is a clear violation of good faith. There was even a source cited for the inclusion, and several posters approval of the edit (who even Wahkeenah admits weren't me), yet this was deleted without rational as vandalism. Is saying someones nationality or actual sexual orientation vandalism? Please xplain this. I have asked time and again for a rational, yet posters who are supposed to act in good faith, refuse to answer. I hope you, a reasonable person, will take the time to answer this reasonable question. Thank you Guinnog. I appologize for trying your patience. [[User:Cliesthenes|Cliesthenes]] 19:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:On a side note, one other question. THe above posters have repeatedly stated I am [[user: HollyWolly]], a known vandal. Out of interest, I looked at the users contributions. What did the user do to deserve a lifetime ban? From what I could see, HollyWolly didn't do anything that amazing. Furthermore, how was HollyWolly connected to Frogsprog (whatever the name was). It says they were connected "by their edits." However, looking at their history, it appears they may have made one edit that was the same. I guess my main question is: What is the burden necessary in Wikipedia for this assumption, and what is the level of conduct that creates the action of a lifetime ban. Is one similar edit really enough to create a connection to a user, and to subsequently ban the user? I'm not claiming either party is innocent, the lawyer in me just couldn't help but ask. In the court room, a burden of beyond a reasonable doubt is needed for criminal sanctions. In wikipedia, blocking, and banning would be considered a "wikipedia criminal sanction." I am sure the burden is far lower, however, the rational for the lifetime ban of at least HollyWolly (one similar edit as a basis) seems to be a stretch under even the most liberal construction of any "burden." Thanks. [[User:Cliesthenes|Cliesthenes]] 21:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

== Problem with user Vintagekits ==

Dear Guinnog,

I am having trouble with user Vintagekits (and others) and I noticed that you also have had problems with him. There seems to be a clique of supporters of the boxer John Duddy who are intent on creating a 'John Duddy' fan page and at the same time wage war on the 'Boxrec' page. The background to this being that because Duddy was born and bred in Northen Ireland he is (rightly or wrongly) listed as British on the boxrec.com website.

Can both these pages be edited by disinterested parties who have access to the facts ? {{unsigned|Penetrating Fluid}}

:The above poster has been blocked for his inappropriate username. - [[User:Samsara|{{{2|Samsara}}}]] ([[User talk:Samsara|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samsara|contribs]]) 10:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

== IP vandals ==

Wow. Thanks for tackling that big backlog. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] 19:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

:<grins> Glad to have you on 'our' side. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] 19:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

==What, now?==

Why did you pull up a edit far into my contribution history somewhat berating some faceless anon who removed ''somebody else''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s comment from a talk page, one of the most expressely frowned upon actions in Wikipedia in most cases, out of nowhere, and then give support for the one breaking Wikipedia custom? It doesn't matter if it's a "eyesore". It was somebody else's comment for the improvation of Wikipedia, and editing such things is something I refuse to tolerate. [[User:Interrobamf|Interrobamf]] 02:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:I'm afraid I hardly see your interpretation of my summaries. That is what occurs with something entirely subjective like civility and the fact that you're trying to judge my tone through text, I suppose. [[User:Interrobamf|Interrobamf]] 02:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Guinnog... Interrobamf replied to me on my talk page, I've refactored it back to his, same thread as where you were (and which I assume the above replies refer to).. you may want to give it a look. It is [[User_talk:Interrobamf#Warning]]. Thanks for any further thoughts you may have. Happy editing. ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 16:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

==JASON SHAND PAGE QUESTIONS==

Hello, I saw you added this comment on the Discussion page of [[Jason Shand]] "I don't want to overdo it but the article is in need of some major cleanup at the moment. It reads like an advert for the subject."

I would like to just ask about that, what do you mean Reads like an Advert! I dont personally think I've written it any differently to any other page of a person - [[Chris Moyles]] for example is a Radio Presenter's wiki page i looked at before writing the [[Jason Shand]] page to get tips and inspiration for writing it up.

However on the cleanup front, There is more information to be added, and I hope you can appreciate Mr Shand is a busy man so for me to get Factual Information from him about his History (without them conversations between me and Mr Shand I would not be able to get as much information as I have). Afterall this wiki is meant to be about Fact not Fiction!.

feel free to get back to me regarding this or any advise for me about writing the page at my Talk Page, ([[User:EditorSH|EditorSH]] 04:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC))

==User page==

I'll ask around first; I asked both people who made such quotes if they wanted the quotes on their user pages before I posted them.. If other people agree with you, I'll remove it :) [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 05:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I read it - the intent is not to criticize people - It's just a quote collection from IRC. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 05:41, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

BTW, you, so far, are the only person who I know takes offense to the quotes. I do not know about receiving any other complaints about that. If I find a lot of people who do, I will remove it. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 05:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

"Just as the Eskimos have 49 words for snow, the Japanese have 120 terms for old people stabbing each other over minor slights." refers to a story where an old man stabbed a fellow old man at a retirement home over who gets to take a bath first. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 05:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The quotes are from #Wikipedia - on irc.freenode.net - It's an unofficial Wikipedia chatroom. Therefore the quotes are communications with people involved with Wikipedia. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 05:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks for the barnstar, it's appreciated!--[[User:Konstable|Konst]].[[User talk:Konstable|able]] 05:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:And for mine too. I've just looked at your user page and I'm jealous - how ''do'' you design a page like that?! All I do is write...! [[User:Bentley Banana|Bentley Banana]] 10:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

== Rebus ==

I thought Whiskey was wrong! Typical.

Although not having an actual relationship with Shiv, I have just checked the opening chapter to Fleshmarket Close, which says that they had shared a kiss/clinch after one of their cases (whether that was at the end of the previous book I can't remember) creating tension between them - that Siobhan felt but 'you could never tell with Rebus'. Perhaps I should have worded it differently to cover the sexual tension between them. Maybe something could go in...

[[User:Mdcollins1984|Mdcollins1984]] 11:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Just looked at Question of Blood which talks about the unexpected hug Rebus gives Shiv, and the long lingering kiss (his eyes tight shut, hers wide open) -ok so not exactly romance but a source of tension!

[[User:Mdcollins1984|Mdcollins1984]] 11:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

:No problem! It definately needs including, but not as you say actually consummated...I'll have a look, but feel free to change! The other characters pages that were created a while back are still looking rather thin too. I'll add it to my 'to do' list.

[[User:Mdcollins1984|Mdcollins1984]] 16:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

==Crazy==

I saw your name [[:Category:Users seeking adoption|hitherward]], and thought I'd attempt to adopt you. It seems that you don't need adopting. Nice userpage. I wish I could get mine looking smooth as yours does, instead of all bulky... Good work! I rate it:

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| '''{{PAGENAME}}''' {{#if:{{{oldid|}}} | <span class=plainlinks>([{{fullurl:{{PAGENAME}}|oldid={{{oldid}}}}} reviewed version])</span>}} has been listed as a '''''[[User:Hunterd/Article assessment|Kick-Arse article]]'''''. If you can improve it further, [[Wikipedia:Be bold in updating pages|please do]].[[Category:Hunterd's Assessed Articles|{{PAGENAME}}]] [[Category:Hunterd's Assessed Articles|{{PAGENAME}}]]

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Regards,<br>

[[User:Hunterd|The Duke of Copyeditting]], <small>[[Special:Emailuser/Hunterd|Bow before me!]]</small> ^{[[User talk:Hunterd|You can't control me!]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Hunterd|I'm a P. I.!]]} 11:01, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

*Feel free to add the template to the top of your talk page by typing <nowiki> {{subst:User:Hunterd/Template:KA}} </nowiki> [[User:Hunterd|The Duke of Copyeditting]], <small>[[Special:Emailuser/Hunterd|Bow before me!]]</small> ^{[[User talk:Hunterd|You can't control me!]]} _{[[Special:Contributions/Hunterd|I'm a P. I.!]]} 11:03, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for your kind message. When adding category templates to articles you don't want to show up in the category itself, you can use a colon, for example <nowiki>[[:Category:Users seeking adoption]]</nowiki>. Beast wishes, --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 11:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

==Shand==

Thanks Guinnog. It's looking better but it is in desperate need of some v references. I just removed some headings and I'm kind of inclined to remove the "other details" heading and incorporate those points into the text somewhere. I also feel like the show features list should go, what do you think? [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 11:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

PS Check out the "PLEASE HELP PROMOTE ME!" on the myspace link [http://www.jasonshand.co.uk/]. 8| [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 11:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

:Nice work, Mr G. It's looking much better. Thanks for doing all that. :) [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 11:37, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

::I don't want it to be deleted it or anything as your copyedit has satisfied a lot of my concerns about the tone, but you know, he really doesn't get many g-hits. The vast majority of the ones for his name seem to be for a Jason Shand who is a British singer-songwriter. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 11:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[Planet]] ==

Remember that the rollback button is for obvious vandalism. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Planet&diff=next&oldid=81583246 This] revert was not for vandalism, and the user in question has only made two edits. Remember [[WP:BITE]]! Thanks. --[[User:Alex9891|Alex]] ([[User talk:Alex9891|Talk]]) 12:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

==Humourous/Humorous - Cane Toad==

Guinnog, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but it's been agreed at [[Talk:Cane_Toad#spelling]] to keep the article to Australian English (ie. humourous). Thanks for your understanding. :) - [[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] 12:54, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

:Humorous is correct worldwide, see [[Wikipedia:Lists of common misspellings/H]] for example. There is a fuller discussion at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Typo#Dictionary.com]. Hope that makes sense. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 12:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

::I'm afraid that I'll have to disagree - especially as [[Humour]] seems to be the wikipedia standard. ;) Wiktionary also lists 'humourous' as an acceptable alternative, and humour /humourous is what's given in the Australian dictionaries that I've seen. Is it neccessary for a FA to use American English? As Cane Toad is primarily an Australian article, I believe that the spelling should be left as humourous. - [[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] 13:09, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

::As I said, "humorous" is not an American spelling but the worldwide spelling. "Humourous" is an error (as well as an archaic form) along the comparison with "humour". Spelling is illogical sometimes. If you read the discussion I referred you to it should all become clear. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 13:14, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you that spelling can be quite illogical. :) Firstly, I remain unconvinced of 'humorous' being the 'worldwide' spelling. Could you please provide a source? Secondly, in the discussion that you linked me to, 'humourous' is given on Wiktionary as an acceptable alternative (marked as being UK, but not 'archaic'... There's a joke to be made in there somewhere...). Thirdly, in [[Cane Toad]], the spelling is Australian English, (eg. centimetre, humour, fertilisers, colouring.) For style, I feel that it's inconsistent to have something being 'humorous', and then later, to talk about 'Australian humour'. - [[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] 08:46, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Malkinann, I think Guinnog is right. Wikitionary, like Wikipedia, can have mistakes, and for some reason this one hasn't been cleared up. I use the Maquarie Dictionary for Australian spelling, but unfortunately can't find it at the moment. I looked in the Oxford Dictionary of Australian English, and it lists humorous as the correct spelling, with no mention of the alternative. Even though humour is spelt with the u, they must have decided it looks too clunky :). Thanks. --[[User:LiquidGhoul|liquidGhoul]] 09:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Malkinann, like LiquidGhoul, I am a fellow Australian and I fully support your desire to use Australian English in Australian articles. However, I support Guinnog's view that "humorous" is the correct spelling. I use Mirriam Webster online and offline, the current Australian Oxford Dictionary. The spelling "humourous" is not even listed as an alternative spelling. It actually isn't listed in any of my < than 10-year-old dictionaries. At work I use the Australian ''News Limited Style Guide for Journalists and Professional Writers'' and it specifically states to use "humorous," not "humourous". I have several editions of the guide and they all say to use Australian English and list "humorous" as the correct spelling. I think "humourous" is an old British spelling and it is true that some people in Australia still use it and you can find it in some old dictionaries, but I think it is incorrect to claim it is Australian spelling.

:I believe Guinnog is correct to change the spelling to humorous to be consistent with modern Australian spelling conventions. Cheers, [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 10:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:P.S. I would strongly caution you against using Wiktionary as a reliable dictionary. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 10:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I still think it's humourous... Someone had better tell the Sydney Morning Herald, then. - [[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] 09:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Feel free. No paper dictionary that I know of lists it as being current in the modern era. This is the trouble with relying on the likes of Wiktionary or Dictionary.com for info... --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 09:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Indeed. The Sydney Morning Herald website has 27 hits for "humourous" [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=humourous+site%3Awww.smh.com.au%2F&btnG=Search&meta=] and 614 hits for "humorous" [http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&as_qdr=all&q=humorous+site%3Awww.smh.com.au%2F&btnG=Search&meta=]. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 11:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== Help in disambiguation ==

I see you live in Scotland and hope you may have some insight into some naming issues. The article in question is [[Red Deer]] and I understand there are perhaps 300,000 of these animals in Scotland...though I don't know if you know much about them. Bascially, there are somewhere between over twenty and maybe as few as 7 subspecies of these animals. Now outside of far eastern Asia and North America, the animal that is referred to as Red Deer is called an Elk or even "Wapiti". The Elk are much larger than and have different appearances and behavior than their cousins. I understand that what Europeans call an "Elk" is what we call a [[Moose]]. Basically, I am trying to find out what Scotlanders call the beast...do you use the term Red Deer or do you also call it an Elk? There has been discussion off and on for over a year about whether the article should be split in two since the animals have also recently been identified as having distinct enough DNA to be considered two species... [http://www.wzw.tum.de/wildbio/paper/cerphyl.pdf#search=%22Barbary%20red%20deer%22 see page 12]...though biologists have yet to make this determination officially. I am inclined to have an appropriate disambiguation page (one already exists at [[Elk]]) and then two seperate articles that detail the two individually, but wanted some feedback from someone that could possibly assist in the naming issue. If you're not interested, no problem.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 04:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, good picture. There is an ongoing discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Red_Deer#Elk here] if you feel so inclined. I think we may end up with two articles and I will use your image (or you can of course) in the article on Red Deer.--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 08:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again...there are "new" things being discovered all the time. [http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0414_030314_strangeape.html]--[[User:MONGO|MONGO]] 09:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== Suggestion from liquidGhoul ==

Hi Guinnog, liquidGhoul suggested a few people should keep an eye on the [[Ubuntu (Linux distribution)]] article while I try to edit it, to make sure nobody (including me) steps out of line. I think it's a good idea. Will you keep an eye? Cheers, [[User:Samsara|{{{2|Samsara}}}]] ([[User talk:Samsara|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Samsara|contribs]]) 16:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

==Moving talk==

Thanks for keeping an eye out... [[User:Tyrenius|Tyrenius]] 01:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

==Of course==

Of course, Mr G. No need to apologise. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 09:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

==Input needed==

Hi, I would welcome your input here: [[Talk:Volkstaat#Flaws_section]]

Thanks! --[[User:WickedHorse|WickedHorse]] 11:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

==Charles Darwin==

The trump vandal went on to do Charles Darwin - think he needs another hint? [[User talk:SatuSuro|SatuSuro]] 13:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:Thank you for that - ( my late father was born in kelso, so I oft used to hear my late mother have a go at the saft lowland brogue!) but like the oz flag on your wish list, the scottish should be on mine when i resurrect it [[User talk:SatuSuro|SatuSuro]] 13:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks heaps ==

G'day Guinnog. Thank you for your expression of sympathy yesterday on my Talk page. [[User:GordonE|Gordon]] | [[User talk:GordonE|Talk]], 17 October 2006 @14:28 UTC

:You're very welcome Gordon. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 14:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== Oi ==

I see no policy dictating I must have an edit summary. Stop being so anony-phobic. --[[User:84.64.51.100|84.64.51.100]] 20:42, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:It doesn't matter why I did or didn't. Just don't revert things automatically. You're obviously one of those bloody Anti-Vandal Leaguers or whatever than prowls the Recent Changes list. If you read the introduction to the article, it reads much smoother without that sentence. --[[User:84.64.51.100|84.64.51.100]] 20:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

::Oh, throwing templates at me now are you? Well I invite you to go ahead and block me if you think it'll do any good. My WikiGnomic contributions count for naught in the face of tyranically anti-vandal administrators who jump at the first sight of an anonymous editor. This is what really makes me sick about Wikipedia, you know. --[[User:84.64.51.100|84.64.51.100]] 20:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:::Well, you appear to be inviting me into a debate about it, so I'll begin. The introduction of an article should be a couple of sentences that introduce the topic, right? As it stands, the introduction on the [[euro]] states it is a currency, it is used by these many countries, Slovenia will join the list in 2007, and it is used by this many people. Now, upon reading that sentence on Slovenia, I suspected it had been wantonly inserted by an editor keen to inject as much info as possible, or maybe just on the subject of Slovenia's entry to the Eurozone (I note that a similar sentence appears in the box on the right, probably inserted by the same editor). It interrupts the flow, and is not wholly relevant. Any number of countries could be waiting to join the Eurozone - and they are - so should we list them there? No; that's what the [[Eurozone]] article is for. Which is why I removed the sentence, and joined up the remainder. So now the intro reads that the euro is a currency, it is used by these many countries, and it is used by this many people. A short, succint, statement of the facts, unfettered by needless information that is better off elsewhere.

:::And you want me to stick all that in an edit summary? I assumed common sense would suffice. --[[User:84.64.51.100|84.64.51.100]] 21:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== Reply ==

No, it is not: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shetland&action=history]]. --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 22:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:No it was not. Please look not only at the times, but at the dates. 3RR applies to a 24 hr period.--[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 22:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

::"Edit warring"!?! You are talking to the wrong party: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mallimak]. I have been subjected to a preposterous level of consistent, sustained, targetted personal abuse from that account and its myriad socks. When on earth is the Wikipedia community going to act? It is getting quite beyond a joke. --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 22:32, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:::And have a look at the edit histories of his countless socks: [[:Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mallimak]]. --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 22:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

This, on the other hand, '''is''' a 4th revert: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shetland&curid=28916&diff=82091404&oldid=82084706]. --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 22:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your best wishes. May I comment on your message:

*''"I am concerned that you are not necessarily dealing with your conflict with the user in the most productive way."'' - suggestions please, because I have tried everything I can think of, and yet he is still allowed to continue his campaign via his ever-changing IP addresses - it is up to the Admins in my opinion, but they do not seem remotely interested...

*''"I know your history and it might be better not to have anything to do with this user, though I recognise that may be difficult"'' - just have a quick look at the History of the Shetland article: you will see that Mallimak's sock pitched up at that article only hours after I had made an edit to it; same with the CFD (except that one was only minutes). You would rather be better telling Mallimak ''"not to have anything to do with"'' me. I would strongly welcome such a surprising development. --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 23:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

:No, you have not ''"blocked the other user you were edit-warring with"'': you have blocked a throw-away IP sockpuppet, not the actual User. ''"Beyond that I don't know what you would expect me to do."'' - that is OK: none of the other Admins know either, and I sure as heck don't, so you are in very good company! :) --[[User:Mais oui!|Mais oui!]] 23:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== What is 209.124.189.39 up to? ==

Hi, sending this to you since you wrote my welcome as a new user last month. User 209.124.189.39 seems to have some sort of automated process that's arbitrarily changing/rearranging many, many names in [[category]] boxes, breaking links to birth/death years in some cases. Please alert the Proper Authorities, if there are such. --[[User:CliffC|CliffC]] 03:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

: You mean like this? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne_de_Gaulle&diff=prev&oldid=82110637] I think they are just tightening up category listings, so that the category will display its contents in alphabetical order. Let me know if you have any specific concerns. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 12:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

:: Sorry to raise a false alarm; this seemed (and still does) an ambitious undertaking for an anonymous user. I noticed the activity when the categories for [[Nicole duFresne]] got changed to DuFresne, not her real name. Then I saw the diacriticals removed from such names as [[Guillermo Gómez Rivera]] and others. I see now that these names do indeed display properly in the actual category listings. I'm a little surprised that instead of changing the category name-sorting mechanism, they are changing the data going into it and leaving (to those not in the know) apparently misspelled versions of the name behind in the source articles. --[[User:CliffC|CliffC]] 14:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

::: I have copied the above paragraph as a suggestion to user Afasmit, with the comment "In the absence of any explanation at the time of the change, such changes will confuse and discourage those watching a favorite article trying to keep the facts - and spelling - correct." --[[User:CliffC|CliffC]] 13:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

==Elonka RfA==

Hiya, in response to your question at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka]]:

''''how do the several non-trivial edits made on 24 December 2005 to Elonka Dunin fit in with "I try very hard to be mindful of WP:AUTO" just below? As an admin you would be expected to enforce policy and this is very worrying in a candidate. Sorry, as you are undoubtedly a great editor and a genuinely interesting person of the type we need more of. ''

: Fair question, let me try and give a thorough answer: Basically, in late 2005, I was still a very new editor and learning the ropes. :) My use of Wikipedia was mostly as a reader at that time, and I had fewer than 50 edits. But I had noticed that my name and website were showing up in multiple Wikipedia articles as a cited source. Then in mid November 2005, while attending a trade conference in California, I met Wikipedia administrator {{user|Zippy}} who was giving a talk on Wikipedia at the show. I told him about my name showing up in Wikipedia articles, and he created the [[Elonka Dunin]] stub, which he encouraged me to flesh out.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&oldid=28339163].

: At the time, all I did was fix a broken link that he'd added, and add further sources [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&diff=28342178&oldid=28339585], as a resource for him or anyone else who wanted to expand it. A month later though, on December 12, I saw that the article had been nominated for deletion since there still wasn't much info there [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elonka_Dunin]. Since no one else had touched it yet, I went ahead and expanded it when I had some time during the Christmas holidays, in an attempt to resolve some of the concerns in the AfD. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&diff=next&oldid=31021784] My green-ness as an editor is obvious in the edits, such as that I was unaware of the "What links here" link in the menu bar, and I made a clumsy section entitled "Other Wikipedia Articles Which Reference Elonka Dunin" (blush) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&diff=32639613&oldid=31021784].

: In any case, it was during that deletion discussion that I learned of [[WP:AUTO]], which I definitely read closely! After I'd read up more on Wikipedia policies, I returned to my bio and removed some elements which I agreed were "original research" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&diff=next&oldid=32583954] In short, I agree that by today's standards, I made some bad edits in December 2005, but please realize that it was at a time when I was unaware of Wikipedia guidelines. I hope that I have improved my knowledge of Wikipedia policies since then, and that you will not hold some "newbie mistakes" from last year against me. :) --[[User:Elonka|Elonka]] 09:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

===Question #2===

From [[Wikipedia_talk:Requests for adminship/Elonka]]: ''In the light of my changed vote I reviewed the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elonka Dunin (2nd nomination)]] and I think it shows poor judgement in late July as well as editing contrary to [[WP:AUTO]] last December. At the same time I am deeply sorry to have to oppose for this one thing and, rather than discuss on the project page I thought I would open a thread here on it. Elonka, do you think it would have been wise to mention this in your answer to question 3 and/or mend fences with Danny? --Guinnog 01:19, 18 October 2006 (UTC)''

: Ah, the reason I did not add the Danny AfD to question #3, was because it didn't qualify as one of the top "things that have caused me stress on Wikipedia." ;) Given the scope of my interactions with miscellaneous editors on Wikipedia, to be honest, that AfD didn't even make my top 10, so it didn't seem appropriate to include (I felt that my answer to Q3 was already getting long enough!). There also just wasn't much to answer about "how I dealt with it" on that incident. The timeline was basically this:

:* On July 21, {{user|Danny}} had speedy-deleted the [[Musa Cooper]] article[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Musa_Cooper]. This action was disputed, and brought up at Deletion Review [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_July_22&oldid=66173526].

:* At the time, to be honest, I'd never heard of Danny. I just ran across the Deletion Review discussion by chance, and offered my opinion in a routine manner, which was that the speedy-deletion was inappropriate and should be overturned. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ADeletion_review%2FLog%2F2006_July_22&diff=65285693&oldid=65284916]. My post was on July 22 at 23:19.

:*Within an hour, at 00:22, Danny had posted in the discussion as well, expressing, erm, strong concerns ("This is insane") that the article should be kept deleted. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_July_22&diff=next&oldid=65288956].

:*A few minutes later, Danny's very next edit was to nominate my "Elonka Dunin" article for deletion[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20060723173517&limit=20&target=Danny][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elonka_Dunin&diff=prev&oldid=65298376].

:*I posted my concerns about it being a bad faith nomination in the AfD discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FElonka_Dunin_%282nd_nomination%29&diff=65315690&oldid=65315623], and left it alone after that.

:* The AfD was then closed on July 28 with a very strong "keep." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Elonka_Dunin_%282nd_nomination%29&oldid=66289859]

: If such a thing happened again, I'd probably handle it the same way, posting my view of the situation, and then letting the Wikipedia community debate the issue from there on. As for my view of Danny, I'd really regarded the matter as closed. He and I have been on the same side in a few other speedy-deletion/vandalism questions [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hajj_Nematollah&diff=prev&oldid=77961267][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ostad_Elahi&diff=prev&oldid=77961327], but other than that, to my knowledge we really haven't had any other contact. I'm sorry he feels it necessary to oppose my admin nomination, as I don't believe that I've done anything to show that I would use the tools irresponsibly. But, he has a right to his opinion, even if I disagree with it. :) --[[User:Elonka|Elonka]] 11:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== Thanks, as always ==

Thanks for the help maintaining my user and talk pages over the last few days. Always appreciated. Best, [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 12:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

:You're welcome! Know you'd do the same for me, and have done. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 12:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== WikiProject invitation ==

Howdy! We at [[WP:GUITAR|WikiProject Guitarists]] have noticed that you have an interest in editing guitar-related articles ([[Gibson Les Paul]] for example) and I'd like to extend a friendly invitation to join our project. We are solely focused on improving guitarist and guitar equipment articles. If you are interested, add yourself to our [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Guitarists/Members|member list]]. Our main project page has some ideas of things to do if you are looking (because, you know, admins have TONS of free time). --<font color="3300FF">[[User:Aguerriero|Aguerriero]] ([[User_talk:Aguerriero|talk]])</font> 14:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== Improper use of warning. ==

You recently added a test3 (3rd level) warning to the user [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dastardly Dastardly]

's talk page. This should be used only when vandalism is obvious. In this case I think it is quite dubious. He posted a link to a non-hearts related site. He is also a first time user. A warning for spamming would be more appropriate. Please change the warning to the spam0 tag. Thanks. [[User:Snowbound|Snowbound]] 19:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

:No, I stand by my original judgement that this was blatant vandalism. Here is the user's one and only edit: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Heart_of_Midlothian_F.C.&diff=prev&oldid=81765096]. Please get back to me if you still disagree with my judgement after reviewing the diff. --[[User:Guinnog|Guinnog]] 19:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

== Re Barnstar ==

Thanks Mr G! Very much appreciated. :) It was my pleasure to help out, anytime. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 01:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

==Uncat==

Thank you for the positive response. :) BTW, did you have any other questions or concerns that I could address, per the RfA? I am also open to any constructive criticism that you might have, as to how I might further improve. --[[User:Elonka|Elonka]] 18:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== HillstoneLows ==

Why would I mind, that was a hilarious comment. Thanks for brightening my day. [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 20:03, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== David Irving ==

Hello Guinnog. I edited the David Irving introductory paragraph, only to have you revert it as unsourced. I have no objection in principle, but the two basic changes I made seemed, to me, to be in the interests of balance, and I am not sure why the revert. For instance the present opening paragraph says that Irving has written "several" books, when 25 of his titles are listed lower down the page. The use of the word "several" appears, either by design, or by poor use of language, to diminish the extent of Irving's work. I don't mean to defend his views, but whatever a person's views, it seems to me, the sheer scale of effort, regardless of his conclusions, should be accurately represented.

The second change was to the component stating,"...and is most famous for Holocaust denial." That does not read as a balanced introduction to a serious article. I tried to put the accusation of Holocaust denial into context by adding that his views had been highlighted as a result of his own legal action against Deborah Lipstdat.

I feel fairly sure that the replacement of the word "several" was a good one, and while I am not so sure about the second change, I am sure that the bald statement "... is most famous for Holocaust denial" does not come across as a considered observation.

What do you think?

{{unsigned|81.187.233.162}}

: Your reply seems reasonable to me. I had inserted the word 'notorious' simply to see if it would be reverted. I didn't understand why or how my previous edits had dissappeared so quickly... I'll have another go, and use the discussion page as you suggested.

{{unsigned|81.187.233.162}}

== Thank you! ==

Trust me, wasn't easy! Appreciated :) [[User talk:Glen S|'''Gl<font color="green">e</font>n''']] 23:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Your edit count ==

Hello. I've noticed that one of your userboxes says that you've made just over 18800 edits since Oct. 12, 2006. It's just strikes me odd that you've made so many edits in the past two weeks where as I've been on Wikipedia for several months (June 20, 2006) and have only made around 2700 edits. I'm just curious, but is it an error or something?

P.S. - You can reply here if you wish. --[[User:Sasuke-kun27|<font color="blue">'''Sasuk'''</font>]][[User:Sasuke-kun27/Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Sasuke-kun27|<font color="purple">'''-kun'''</font>]][[User talk:Sasuke-kun27|<font color="black">'''27'''</font>]] 00:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

:It says that's his edit count '''as of''' October 12, not since. [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 01:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

::Oh...My apologies (That's kind of embarassing...^^) Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. --[[User:Sasuke-kun27|<font color="blue">'''Sasuk'''</font>]][[User:Sasuke-kun27/Esperanza|<font color="green">'''e'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Sasuke-kun27|<font color="purple">'''-kun'''</font>]][[User talk:Sasuke-kun27|<font color="black">'''27'''</font>]] 01:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

No worries, Guinnog. I must say, when I saw the query, I did a double take. I know you're a prolific editor, but I didn't realise you were a bot! I mean, come on! 18,000 edits in a week??? Very impressive, my friend. :) [[User:Sarah_Ewart|Sarah Ewart]] ([[User talk:Sarah_Ewart|Talk]]) 07:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Muchas gracias ==

[[Image:Sliven-thracianlowlands-dinev-flickr.jpg|right|200px]]

Hey Guinnog, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Khoikhoi 2|RfA]]. It succeeded, and I am '''very''' grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, ''please don't hesitate to ask''. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, &mdash;<span style="font-family:Palatino Linotype">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</span> 05:05, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Dates on Sepp page ==

Oops, probably I deleted to many of the wiki links for the dates. :-) I think I misunderstood what the convention is after I saw a page with a bunch of dates unlinked. I guess it was just the years though. Anyway, one of these days I should read some rules. cya. [[User:Taalo|Taalo]] 05:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== Symington, Biggar and Broughton Railway Company ==

Hi Guinnog.

Thanks for your comments.

Looking at the Map in Thomas: ''Scotland, Vol 6, The Lowlands and the Borders'', there is another branch line nearby: Carstairs to Dolphinton, which appears to be an end-to end link with the NB's Leadburn, Linton & Dolphinton Railway.

What if you move your section heading back to where it was, then you can put your new Edinburgh & Lothian articles in to it. If you like, you could leave the Symington, Bigger and Broughton were I put it, with a new title ... Branches, and the Leadburn branch could added to this section.

Best regards [[User:Pyrotec|Pyrotec]] 11:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== Serious question, then frivolous question ==

You have done a bunch of recent editing of [[United Airlines flight 232]], so I hope you're the right person to ask. I'm [[Talk:United_Airlines_Flight_232#Speed_in_knots.2C_Km.2Fh.2C_and_Mach|confused]] by the apparent discrepancy of reported airspeeds in the '[[United_Airlines_Flight_232#Chronology_of_the_flight|Chronology of the flight]]' section. Do you think this is an error? I'd appreciate your response.<br><br> Though I now be, I admit, somewhat frivolishizzle, were I minded to be belicose, I would take great exception to any plans to to eliminate the subjunctive in [[English]] - [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Guerilla_UK_spelling_campaign] - why would anyone oppose this interesting fossilised form? <br>Umm. Ooops. I now am, as it were, unable to find how you were linked to all that. That I had done more research... <br>--[[User:Shirt58|Shirt58]] 11:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

==Concorde pic==

Hi mate. Yeah I kind of had a felling it would be controversial. Not legal to have it in the article is it. Mmm. As you say it is a shame I really think it is important to the Concorde article and history -great picture of a monumental event in Concorde's history although a sombre one. Oh well. [[User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld|Ernst Stavro Blofeld]] 21:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)