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|founded = [[1972-73 WHA season|1972]]
|history = '''[[Quebec Nordiques]]'''<br>[[1972-73 WHA season|1972]] - [[1994-95 NHL season|1995]]<br>'''Colorado Avalanche'''<br> [[1995-96 NHL season|1995]] - present
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|Rival = [[Detroit Red Wings]]
|owner = {{flagicon|USA}} [[Stan Kroenke]]
|general_manager = {{flagicon|CAN}} [[Francois Giguere]]
|head_coach = {{flagicon|CAN}} [[Joel Quenneville]]
|president = [[Pierre Lacroix]]
|captain = {{flagicon|CAN}} [[Joe Sakic]]
|minor_league_affiliates = [[Lake Erie Monsters]] ([[American Hockey League|AHL]])<br />[[Arizona Sundogs]] ([[Central Hockey League|CHL]])
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The '''Colorado Avalanche''' are a professional [[ice hockey]] team based in [[Denver, Colorado]], [[United States]]. They are members of the [[Northwest Division (NHL)|Northwest Division]] of the [[Western Conference (NHL)|Western Conference]] of the [[National Hockey League]] (NHL). The Avalanche have won the [[Stanley Cup]] twice, in 1996 and 2001. The franchise was founded in [[Quebec City|Quebec]] and were the [[Quebec Nordiques]] until moving to [[Denver, Colorado]] in 1995. The Avalanche have won 8 division titles and had gone to the playoffs in each of their first 10 seasons in the NHL, with the streak ending in 2007.<ref>{{cite web |title =Colorado Avalanche History|url =http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/teams/history/COL|publisher =CBS Sportsline|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> The Avalanche are also notable for being the first team in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup their first season after a re-___location.
 
From the time of their move to Denver in 1995, until the end of the 1998-99 season, the Avalanche played their home games at [[McNichols Sports Arena|McNichols Arena]]. Since then, the Avalanche have called the [[Pepsi Center]] home. The Avalanche have a notable rivalry with the [[Detroit Red Wings]], partly due to both teams having met each other five times in seven years in the Western Conference playoffs between 1996 and 2002.<ref>{{cite news |title =Welcome to NHL's nastiest rivalry|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=RM&p_theme=rm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB4E6E5FAB223F2&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =Kravitz, Bob|publisher =Rocky Mountain News|date =1996-12-18|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref>
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==Franchise Hey history==
===Quebec Nordiques (1972-1995)===
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{{see also|Quebec Nordiques}}
The Quebec Nordiques were one of the [[World Hockey Association]]'s original teams when the league began play in [[1972-73 WHA season|1972]]. Though first awarded to a group in [[San Francisco]], the team quickly moved to [[Quebec City]] when the [[California]] deal soured due to financial and arena problems.<ref name="whanordiques">{{cite web |title =Quebec Nordiques|url =http://www.whahockey.com/nordiques.html|publisher =WHA Hockey|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> During their seven WHA seasons, the Nordiques won the [[Avco World Trophy]] once, in [[1976-77 WHA season|1977]] and lost the finals once, in [[1974-75 WHA season|1975]].<ref>{{cite web |title =WHA Yearly Standings|url =http://www.whahockey.com/whayearlystandings.html|publisher =WHA Hockey|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Two years later, in [[1979-80 NHL season|1979]], they entered the NHL, along with the WHA's [[Edmonton Oilers]], [[Hartford Whalers]], and [[Winnipeg Jets]].<ref>{{cite web |title =From the WHA to the NHL |url =http://www.nhl.com/history/062279.html|publisher =NHL|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref>
 
After making the postseason for seven consecutive years, from [[1980-81 NHL season|1981]] to [[1986-87 NHL season|1987]], the Nordiques fell into the league's basement.<ref name="nordiquesrecord">{{cite web |title =Quebec Nordiques Almanac|url =http://www.nordiquespreservation.com/record.html|publisher =Nordiques Preservation|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> In [[1991 NHL Entry Draft|1991]], for the third straight draft, Quebec had the first overall selection.<ref>{{cite web |title =NHL Entry Draft First Round Selections 1980-89|url =http://www.nhl.com/futures/firstround80_89.html#89|publisher =NHL|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |title =NHL Entry Draft First Round Selections 1990-99|url =http://www.nhl.com/futures/firstround90_99.html|publisher =NHL|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Although [[Eric Lindros]], the draft's top-ranked player, had made it clear he did not wish to play for the Nordiques, they drafted him anyway.<ref>{{cite news |title =A look back: 1991|url =http://www.nhl.com/futures/2006draft/lookback_91_053106.html|author =Roarke,Shawn P.|publisher =NHL|date =2006-05-31|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Lindros did not even wear the jersey for the press photographs, only holding it when it was presented to him.<ref name="lindrosnhl">{{cite news |title =As expected, Quebec selects Lindros No.1|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NewsLibrary&p_multi=DSNB&d_place=DSNB&p_theme=newslibrary2&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0F360039496DAD62&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =1991-06-23|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> On advice from his mother, Lindros refused to sign a contract and began a holdout that would last over a year. On June 30, 1992, he was traded to the [[Philadelphia Flyers]] in exchange for five players, the rights to Swedish prospect [[Peter Forsberg]], two first-round draft picks, and $15 million ([[United States dollar|USD]]).<ref>{{cite web |title =Eric Lindros profile|url =http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8458515&tab=crst|publisher =NHL|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> The Lindros trade is seen (at least in hindsight) as one of the most one-sided deals in NHL history, and a major foundation for the Nordiques/Avalanche franchise successes over the next decade<ref>{{cite news |title =A Franchise deal. Lindros trade laid foundation for Nordiques/Avalanche drive to berth in Stanley Cup Final|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=RM&p_theme=rm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB4E536B44A621D&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =Benton, Jim|publisher =Rocky Mountain News|date =1996-06-06|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> and turned the Nordiques from one of the weakest teams in the NHL to a Stanley Cup contender almost overnight. In the first season after the trade, the [[1992-93 NHL season]], the Nordiques reached the playoffs for the first time in six years and would do so two seasons later.
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While the team experienced on-ice success, the team was far less successful off the ice. Quebec City was the smallest market in the league and in 1995,<ref name="canadianencyc">{{cite news |title =Nordiques Move to Colorado|url =http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0010425|author =Deacon, James|publisher =[[Maclean's]]|date =1995-05-06|accessdate =2007-05-11}}</ref> team owner [[Marcel Aubut]] asked for a bailout from Quebec's provincial government<ref>{{cite news |title =Quebec's Government Plans Bailout to keep Nordiques from moving|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PD&s_site=twincities&p_multi=SP&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB5DDC4964DA9E0&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =1994-04-09|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> as well as a new publicly funded arena.<ref name="canadianencyc"/> The bailout fell through and Aubut subsequently sold the team to a group of investors in [[Denver]].<ref>{{cite news |title =NHL's Nordiques sold, moving west to Denver \ Comsat Entertainment Group bought the team. Quebec had refused to fund a new hockey arena|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=PI&s_site=philly&p_multi=PI&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB32BFD6ADCFF94&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =|publisher =Philadelphia Inquirer|date =1995-05-26|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> On May 1995, the COMSAT Entertainment Group, announced an agreement in principle to purchase the team.<ref name="mediaguidemisc">{{cite web |title =Miscellaneous/Community/Altitude|url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/PDF/321134_CA_MG_325-336.pdf|publisher =Colorado Avalanche|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref>. The deal became official on [[July 1]], [[1995]] and 12,000 season tickets were sold in the 37 days after the announcement of the move to Denver.<ref name="mediaguidemisc"/> The franchise was presented as the Colorado Avalanche on [[August 10]] [[1995]].<ref name="mediaguidemisc"/> They became the second NHL franchise to play in the city: the [[Colorado Rockies (NHL)|Colorado Rockies]] played in town from 1976 to 1982 when they moved to [[New Jersey]] to become the [[New Jersey Devils|Devils]].
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===Colorado Avalanche (1995-Present)===
:: Ok, fair enough -- [[User:Oarias|Oscar Arias]]
[[Image:Patrick_Roy_1999.jpg|thumb|left|150px|Goaltender [[Patrick Roy]], the winningest net minder in the NHL, played for the Avalanche from 1995-2003.]]
 
====1995-2001====
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After buying the team, the COMSAT Entertainment Group organized its Denver sports franchises, the Avalanche and the [[Denver Nuggets]] under a separate subsidiary, Ascent Entertainment Group Inc., which went public in 1995, with 80% of its stocks bought by COMSAT and the other 20% to be available on [[NASDAQ]].<ref name="nuggetscompanyhistory">{{cite web |title =Denver Nuggets - Company History|url =http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Denver-Nuggets-Company-History.html|publisher =Funding Universe|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref>
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The Colorado Avalanche played their first game in the [[McNichols Sports Arena]] in [[Denver]] on [[October 6]], [[1995]] winning 3-2 against the Detroit Red Wings.<ref>{{cite web |title = October 6, 1995 - Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avalanche gamesheet|url =http://www.avalanchedb.com/gamesheets/95-96/199501.htm|publisher =Colorado Avalanche Database|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> Led by [[Captain (ice hockey)|captain]] [[Joe Sakic]], forward [[Peter Forsberg]], and defenseman [[Adam Foote]] on the ice and [[Pierre Lacroix]] as the [[General Manager (ice hockey)|general manager]] and [[Marc Crawford]] as the [[head coach]], the Avalanche got stronger when former [[Montreal Canadiens]] goalie [[Patrick Roy]] joined the team. Feeling humiliated for being left in the net after having let in 9 goals in 26 shots during a Canadiens game against the Red Wings, Roy joined the Avalanche on [[December 6]] [[1995]], together with ex-Montreal captain [[Mike Keane]] in a trade for [[Jocelyn Thibault]], [[Martin Rucinsky]] and [[Andrei Kovalenko]].<ref>{{cite news |title =Roy gets call he's in Hall|url =http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nhl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23920_4810040,00.html|author =Sadowski, Rick|publisher =Rocky Mountain News|date =2006-06-29|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Roy would prove a pivotal addition for Colorado in the years to come.
: Thanks... I think the article makes a pretty good case for its own deletion, but I'll go ahead and add a reason anyway. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 22:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 
The Avalanche finished the regular season with a 47-25-10 record for 104 points, won the [[Pacific Division (NHL)|Pacific Division]] and finished second in the [[Western Conference (NHL)|Western Conference]]. Colorado progressed to the playoffs and won the series against the [[Vancouver Canucks]], the [[Chicago Blackhawks]] and [[Presidents' Trophy]] winners Detroit Red Wings. In the [[Stanley Cup]] [[Stanley Cup Final|Final]], the Avalanche met the [[Florida Panthers]], who were also in their first Stanley Cup final. The Avalanche swept the series 4-0. In Game Four, during the third [[overtime (ice hockey)|overtime]] and after more than 100 minutes of play with no goals, defenseman [[Uwe Krupp]] scored to claim the franchise's first Cup.<ref>{{cite news |title =No stopping the Avalanche - Colorado completes Cup sweep of Panthers with 3OT victory|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SAEC&p_theme=saec&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB03D7A86BE23F7&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =Ulman, Howard|publisher =Associated Press|date =1996-06-11|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> [[Joe Sakic]] was the playoff's scoring leader with 34 points (18 goals and 16 assists) and won the [[Conn Smythe Trophy]], awarded to the most valuable player to his team during the playoffs. The 1996 Stanley Cup was the first major professional championship won by a Denver team.<ref name="mediaguidemisc"/> With the Stanley Cup win, [[Russia]]ns [[Alexei Gusarov]] and [[Valeri Kamensky]] and Swede Peter Forsberg became members of the [[Triple Gold Club]], the exclusive group of ice hockey players who have won [[Ice hockey at the Olympic Games|Olympic gold]], [[Ice Hockey World Championship|World Championship gold]], and the Stanley Cup.<ref name="triplegoldclub">{{cite web |title =Triple Gold Club|url =http://www.iihf.com/archive/TGC.pdf|publisher =[[International Ice Hockey Federation]]|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref>
== [[PIGUI]] deletion contested ==
G'day, please see [[Talk:PIGUI|PIGUI talk page]] for protest against deletion of [[PIGUI]] --[[User:Webaware|Webaware]] 22:45, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 
In [[1996-97 NHL season|1996-97]], Colorado won, not only their Pacific Division, but the [[Presidents' Trophy]] as well for finishing the regular season with the best record of the entire league: 49-24-9 for 107 points. The team was also the league's best scoring with an average of 3.38 goals scored per game. The Avalanche met the two lowest seeds of the Western Conference in the first two rounds of the playoffs: the [[Chicago Blackhawks]] and the [[Edmonton Oilers]], who were beaten 4-2 and 4-1. During a rematch of the previous year Conference Final, the Avalanche lost against the Detroit Red Wings in a 4-2 series. The Red Wings went on to sweep the Stanley Cup final just as Colorado had done the year before. [[Sandis Ozolinsh]] was elected for the league's first all-star team at the end of the season.
: Appears to be deleted already. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 23:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 
In 1997, financial problems led to the selling of the Ascent Entertainment by COMSAT to the AT&T's Liberty Media Group for $755 million. Liberty put its sports assets immediately for sale.<ref name="nuggetscompanyhistory"/>
:: Has now been resolved. --[[User:Webaware|Webaware]] 15:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 
In the following season, Colorado won the Pacific Division with a 39-26-17 record for 95 points. The Avalanche sent the largest delegation of the NHL to the [[1998 Winter Olympics]] [[Ice hockey at the 1998 Winter Olympics|ice hockey tournament]] in [[Nagano]], [[Japan]]: 10 players representing 7 countries and coach [[Marc Crawford]] for Canada.<ref>{{cite news |title =Avalanche blame Olympics for slide that won't stop|url =http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n44_v222/ai_21251719|author =Elliott, Helene|publisher =[[Sporting News|The Sporting News]]|date =1998-11-02|accessdate =2007-07-16}}</ref> [[Milan Hejduk]] won the Gold Medal for [[Czech national ice hockey team|Czech Republic]], Alexei Gusarov and Valeri Kamensky got the Silver Medal for [[Russian national ice hockey team|Russia]] and [[Jari Kurri]] won the Bronze Medal for [[Finnish national men's ice hockey team|Finland]].<ref name="recordbook">{{cite web |title =Franchise Records|url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/PDF/321134_CA_MG_163-220.pdf|publisher =Colorado Avalanche|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> Colorado lost in their first playoff round against the [[Edmonton Oilers]] in a 7 game series, after having led the series 3-1. [[Peter Forsberg]] was the league's second highest scorer in the regular season with 91 points (25 goals and 66 assists) and was elected for the league's first all star team. After the end of the season, head coach Marc Crawford rejected the team's offer of a two-year deal.<ref>{{cite news |title =Crawford Bows Out - Avalanche Coach turns down team's offer of two-year deal|url =http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-7034317.html|author =Sadowski, Rick|publisher =[[Rocky Mountain News]]|date =1998-05-28|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> [[Bob Hartley]] was hired to the head coach position in June 1998.
::: I'm still not sure it's got encyclopedic value, but I'll leave that decision to someone else. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 21:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 
In [[1998-99 NHL season|1998-99]], with the addition of the [[Nashville Predators]] to the league, the NHL realigned their divisions and the Colorado Avalanche were put in the new [[Northwest Division (NHL)|Northwest Division]]. Despite a slow 2-6-1 start, Colorado finished with a 44-28-10 record for 98 points, won the Northwest Division and finished second in the Western Conference. After beating the [[San Jose Sharks]] and the [[Detroit Red Wings]] in the first two rounds, Colorado met Presidents' Trophy winners [[Dallas Stars]] in the Conference Final, where they lost after a seven game series. Peter Forsberg was again elected to the league's first all-star team and [[Chris Drury]] won the [[Calder Memorial Trophy]] for the best rookie of the season. Together with [[Milan Hejduk]], both were elected for the [[NHL All-Rookie Team]] at the end of the season.
== [[Sari (city)|Sari]] Article ==
You add tag that shows sari article violates copyright, could you please define me why ? because i have added those notes, from AliHessami Book about Sari City, Please reply to my talk page, Thank You! --[[User:Ali1986|Ali]] 06:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
It was in the [[1999-2000 NHL season|1999-2000 season]] that the Colorado Avalanche played their first game in the new [[Pepsi Center]], that cost 160 million [[US dollars]].<ref name="ksepepsicenter">{{cite web |title =KSE/Pepsi Center|url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/PDF/321134_CA_MG_299-312.pdf|publisher =Colorado Avalanche|accessdate =2007-06-13}}</ref> Milan Hejduk scored the first goal of a 2-1 victory against the [[Boston Bruins]] on [[October 13]] [[1999]].<ref>{{cite web |title =2001 NHL All-Star Game - Pepsi Center Facts|url =http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/2001/all_star/pepsi_center/|publisher =[[Sports Illustrated]]|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> The Avalanche finished the season with a 42-28-11-1 record for 96 points and won the Northwest Division. Between [[January 10]] and [[February 7]], the Avalanche had their longest winning streak ever with 12 games.<ref name="recordbook"/> Before the playoffs, the Avalanche strengthened their defense for a run towards the Stanley Cup. On March 6, [[1999-2000 NHL season|2000]], the [[Boston Bruins]] traded future [[Hockey Hall of Fame]]r defenseman [[Ray Bourque]] and [[Forward (ice hockey)|forward]] [[Dave Andreychuk]] to Colorado for [[Brian Rolston]], [[Martin Grenier]], [[Samuel Pahlsson]], and a first-round draft pick. Bourque, who had been a Bruin since [[1979-80 NHL season|1979-80]], requested a trade to a contender for one last shot at a Stanley Cup.<ref name="bourque">{{cite news |title =For Bourque, at long last Stanley!|url =http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=290833|author =Roarke, Shawn P.|publisher =[[National Hockey League|NHL]]|date =2007-03-22|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> However, and just as the year before, Colorado lost in the Conference Final against the Dallas Stars in a seven game series after beating both the Phoenix Coyotes and the Detroit Red Wings in 4-1 series. [[Joe Sakic]] won the [[Lester B. Pearson Award]] for the outstanding player of the regular season, elected by the members of the [[NHL Players Association]].
: Basically, it reads like you typed up, or translated, a book or web page that you found. The formatting, in particular, is highly anomalous. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 10:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
In July 2000, after years of intrigue and several failed negotiations, the Avalanche, the Denver Nuggets and the Pepsi Center were finally bought by business [[entrepreneur]] and [[Wal-Mart]] heir [[E. Stanley Kroenke|Stan Kroenke]] in a $450 million deal. Liberty retained only 6.5% stake of the sports franchises. The deal included a guarantee to the city of Denver that the teams would not be relocated for at least 25 years. After the deal, Kroenke organized his sports assets under Kroenke Sports Enterprises.<ref name="nuggetscompanyhistory"/>
== PROD ==
 
The [[2000-01 NHL season|2000-01]] season was the best season the team has ever had. The Avalanche won the Northwest Division and captured their second Presidents' Trophy after having finished the regular season with 52-16-10-4 for 118 points. Joe Sakic finished the regular season with 118 points (54 goals and 64 assists), only three behind [[Jaromir Jagr]]'s 121 points. On [[February 4]], [[2001]], the Colorado Avalanche hosted the [[51st National Hockey League All-Star Game|51st NHL All-Star Game]]. [[Patrick Roy]], Ray Bourque and Joe Sakic played for the North America team, who won 14-12 against the World team, that featured Milan Hejduk and Peter Forsberg. All but Hejduk were part of the starting lineups.<ref name="recordbook"/> Before the playoffs, the Avalanche acquired star defenseman [[Rob Blake]] and center [[Steven Reinprecht]] from the [[Los Angeles Kings]] in exchange for [[Adam Deadmarsh]], [[Aaron Miller]] and their first-round [[2001 NHL Entry Draft|2001 Draft]] pick.<ref>{{cite news |title =Kings take Avs' Aulin to complete Blake trade|url =http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-72313179.html|author =Sadowski, Rick|publisher =Rocky Mountain News|date =2001-03-23|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> In the playoffs, Colorado swept their Conference Quarterfinal against the [[Vancouver Canucks]]. In the Conferece Semifinal, the Avalanche won the [[Los Angeles Kings]] in a seven game series, after having wasted a 3-1 lead. After the last game of the series, Peter Forsberg underwent surgery to remove a [[ruptured spleen|ruptured]] [[spleen]] and it was announced that he would not play until the following season. The injury was a huge upset for the team; former NHL goaltender [[Darren Pang]] considered it "devastating (...) to the Colorado Avalanche".<ref>{{cite news |title =Doctor: Full recovery is expected|url =http://espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs2001/2001/0510/1194333.html|author =[[Associated Press]]|publisher =[[ESPN]]|date =2001-05-10|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> The team would overcome Forsberg's injury: in the Conference Final, Colorado won the [[St. Louis Blues]] in 4-1 series and progressed to the Stanley Cup Final, where they faced the [[New Jersey Devils]], the Stanley Cup holders. The Avalanche won the series 4-3, after winning the last game at the [[Pepsi Center]] 3-1. After being handed the Cup from [[NHL Commissioner]] [[Gary Bettman]], captain Joe Sakic immediately turned, and gave it to Ray Bourque, capping off Bourque's 22-year career with his only championship.<ref>{{cite news |title =Avalanche beat Devils to capture Stanley Cup|url =http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/cup01/games/2001-06-09-njcol.htm|author =Allen, Kevin|publisher =USA Today|date =2001-06-10|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Joe Sakic was the playoffs leading scorer with 26 points (13 goals and 13 assists). He won the [[Hart Memorial Trophy]], given to the league's most valuable player during the regular season, the [[Lady Byng Memorial Trophy]], awarded to the player that has shown the best sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with performance in play, the Lester B. Pearson Award and shared the [[NHL Plus/Minus Award]] with [[Patrik Elias]] of the Devils. Patrick Roy won the [[Conn Smythe Trophy]], awarded to the playoffs' most valuable player. [[Shjon Podein]] was awarded the [[King Clancy Memorial Trophy]] for significant humanitarian contributions to his community, namely his work on charitable organizations and his own children's foundation.<ref>{{cite web |title =2000-01 King Clancy Memorial Trophy - Podein, Shjon|url =http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SilverwareTrophyWinner.jsp?tro=KCT&year=2000-01|publisher =Legends of Hockey|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> Ray Bourque and Joe Sakic were elected to the league's first all-star team; Rob Blake was elected to the second all-star team.
I find your attitude objectionable in evaluation of why I unprod things. I do not have an objection to the PROD process, unlike what you intimate in your discussion on [[Mao Kobayashi]]. I infact use PROD. If I feel an article is noteworthy enough that it should go through AfD instead, I will unprod it. I will not nominate it for deletion unless I feel similar to the PRODder that it should be deleted. (I have actually unprodded and then AfD'd things). If you have a problem with people unprodding articles because they may have value, then you are debasing the value of PROD. [[User:132.205.45.148|132.205.45.148]]
 
====2001-present====
== Cleanup Thanks ==
[[Image:Avslineup.jpeg|right|thumb|250px|Avalanche players warming up in 2006]]
The Avalanche have failed to reach the Stanley Cup Finals since 2001. In the [[2001-02 NHL season|2001-02 season]], the team finished the regular season with 99 points of a 45-28-8-1 record and won the Northwest Division. Colorado had the league's lowest goals conceded: 169, which makes an average per game of 2.06. The NHL season was interrupted once again for the [[2002 Winter Olympics]], in [[Salt Lake City]], [[Utah]]. The Colorado Avalanche had 9 players representing 6 countries. [[Canadian national men's hockey team|Canada]] won the [[Ice hockey at the 2002 Winter Olympics|ice hockey tournament]] and [[Rob Blake]], [[Adam Foote]] and [[Joe Sakic]] won Gold medals. [[American national men's hockey team|American]] [[Chris Drury]] got a silver medal.<ref name="recordbook"/> With the win, Blake and Sakic became members of the [[Triple Gold Club]].<ref name="triplegoldclub"/> After advancing through the first two rounds of the playoffs with a 4-2 series win against the [[Vancouver Canucks]] and a 4-3 series win against the [[San Jose Sharks]], the Avalanche met their rivals of the [[Detroit Red Wings]] in the playoffs for the 5th time in 7 years. In a seven game series, Colorado had a 3-2 lead after five games, but lost Game 6 at home 2-0 and then the Red Wings won the deciding game at home 7-0. Like in 1997, Detroit went on to win the Stanley Cup. [[Patrick Roy]] won the [[William M. Jennings Trophy]], given to the goaltenders of the team with fewest goals scored against. Roy was elected for the league's first all-star team, together with Joe Sakic; Rob Blake was elected for the second all-star team.
 
The following season, [[2002-03 NHL Season|2002-03]], saw the Avalanche claim the NHL record for most consecutive division titles, nine,<ref name="divtitrec">The 1994-95 Division title was won while the franchise was still in Quebec and together with the 8 titles the Avalanche won between 1995-96 and 2002-03 makes the record number of 9 consecutive division titles</ref> breaking the [[Montreal Canadiens]] streak of eight, won between 1974 and 1982.<ref>{{cite news |title =NHL Hockey: Colorado Avalanche Team Report|url =http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-99870515.html|author =|publisher =[[The Sports Network]]|date =2003-04-10|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> The division title came after a bad start by the team, that led to the exit of head coach [[Bob Hartley]], in December.<ref>{{cite news |title =Roy, Avs put clamps on Red Wings|url =http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/games/2003-02-06-avalanche-redwings_x.htm|author =Allen, Kevin|publisher =[[USA Today]]|date =2003-02-06|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> General Manager [[Pierre Lacroix]] promoted assistant coach [[Tony Granato]] to the head coach position.<ref>{{cite news |title =Avs bench change: Hartley out, Granato in|url =http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/avalanche/2002-12-18-hartley_x.htm|author =Brehm, Mike|publisher =[[USA Today]]|date =2002-18-12|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> The team's playoff spot seemed in doubt, at one point, but the Avalanche managed to finish with 105 points, ahead of the division rivals Vancouver Canucks by one. The race to the title was exciting, namely the second-to-last game of the season, as the Avalanche needed to win the game to stay in the race, and [[Milan Hejduk]] scored with 10 seconds left in overtime to beat the [[Anaheim Ducks|Anaheim]].<ref>{{cite news |title = Colorado 4, Anaheim 3|url = http://sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20030404_COL@ANA|author =| publisher =CBS Sportsline|dateG=2003-04-05|accessdate =2007-05-06}}</ref> The title was guaranteed in the final day of the regular season, when the Avalanche won the [[St. Louis Blues]] 5-2 and the Vancouver Canucks lost against the [[Los Angeles Kings]] 2-0.<ref>{{cite news |title =Avalanche win game, Northwest; Hejduk gets 50th|url =http://sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20030406_STL@COL|author =|publisher =CBS Sportsline|date =2003-04-06|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> In the playoffs, the Avalanche blew a 3-1 series lead over the [[Minnesota Wild]], and lost in overtime of Game 7 to be eliminated from the first round of the playoffs.<ref>{{cite news |title = Minnesota 3, Colorado 2|url =http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/recaps/2003/04/22/col_min/|author =|publisher =Sports Illustrated|dateG=2003-04-22|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Peter Forsberg won the [[Art Ross Trophy]] for the leading scorer of the regular season, which he finished with 106 points (29 goals, 77 assists). Forsberg also won the [[Hart Memorial Trophy]] for the regular season's most valuable player and shared the [[NHL Plus/Minus Award]] with teammate [[Milan Hejduk]]. Hejduk scored 50 goals to win the [[Maurice 'Rocket' Richard Trophy]] for the best goalscorer of the regular season. Forsberg was elected to the league's first all-star team; Hejduk was elected to the second all-star team.
Hello Zetawolf, thanks for your assitance in cleaning up some of my posts. I have only one re-modification found on [[Zeppo]]. I have added a more generic link to The [[Zeppo Network]], Inc. which is the IP holder for "Zeppo. Regards, [[User:Robertholf|Robertholf]] 11:38, 7 May 2006 (HST)
 
After that season, Patrick Roy retired and the Avalanche signed star wingers [[Paul Kariya]] and [[Teemu Selänne|Teemu Selanne]] from the [[Anaheim Ducks|Mighty Ducks of Anaheim]].<ref>{{cite news |title =Patrick Roy retires after 18 years|url =http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2003/05/28/roy_retires030528.html|author =|publisher =[[Canadian Broadcasting Corporation|CBC]]|date =2003-05-28|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title =Avalanche sign Kariya, Selanne to one-year deals|url =http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/news/2003/07/03/avs_signings_ap/|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2003-07-03|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Both failed to live up to the expectations: Kariya spent most of the [[2003-04 NHL season|2003-04 season]] injured and Selanne scored only 32 points (16 goals and 16 assists) in 78 games.<ref>{{cite news |title =Passion is back for Selanne|url =http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/sports_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_83_5422098,00.html|author =Sadowski, Rick|publisher =[[Rocky Mountain News]]|date =2007-03-16|accessdate =2007-05-17}}</ref> Having "nine elite players"<ref>{{cite news |title =2003-2004 NHL Season Preview: Colorado Avalanche|url =http://proicehockey.about.com/cs/nhlseasonpreview/a/03_04avalanche.htm|author =Fitzpatrick, Jamie|publisher =[[About.com]]|date =2003-09-02|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref>, "the most talented top six forwards on one team since the days of the [[Edmonton Oilers]]"<ref>{{cite news |title =Avs' silver lining has a cloud|url =http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?page=2003pvw/col|author =Heika, Mike|publisher =[[ESPN]]|date =2003-09-24|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> was not good enough as the franchise failed to win the Northwest division title, ending the NHL record streak. The 40-22-13-7 record was good enough for 100 points, one less than the Northwest division winners Vancouver Canucks. Colorado won the Conference Quarterfinal against the [[Dallas Stars]] in a five game series, but lost in the Semifinal against the [[San Jose Sharks]] in a six game series. Joe Sakic became the only Avalanche player ever to be chosen as the All-Star Game Most Valuable Player during the [[54th National Hockey League All-Star Game|2004 NHL All-Star Game]], when he scored a [[hat-trick]]. Sakic was elected for the league's first all-star team at the end of the season and won the [[NHL/Sheraton Road Performer Award]].<ref name="recordbook"/>
==Slow down==
 
The [[2004-05 NHL season]] was canceled due to an [[2004-05 NHL lockout|unresolved lockout]]. During the lockout, many Avalanche players played in European leagues.<ref name="nhleuropelockout">{{cite web|url=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=9951&hubname=|title=NHLers in Europe|publisher=TSN|accessdate=2006-10-31}}</ref> [[David Aebischer]] returned home with [[Alex Tanguay]] to play for [[Switzerland|Swiss]] club [[Hockey Club Lugano|HC Lugano]]; Milan Hejduk and Peter Forsberg returned to their former teams in their native countries, [[HC Pardubice]] and [[MODO Hockey]]. Other nine players of the Avalanche 2003-04 roster played in European league during the lockout.<ref name="nhleuropelockout"/>
Um. You placed that speedy delete template on the [[tea bowl]] page about 2 seconds after I created it. Slow down. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] 07:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
: Comes of watching [[Special:Newpages]]. I didn't look at the author and assumed it was someone messing around with the redirect button. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 07:46, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 
After the [[2004-05 NHL lockout]] and the implementation of a salary cap, the Avalanche were forced to let go some of their top players. Peter Forsberg and Adam Foote were lost to free agency in order to save some room in the cap for Joe Sakic and Rob Blake.<ref>{{cite news |title =Sakic, Blake to stay; Forsberg, Foote up in air|url =http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2116068|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2005-07-26|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Although the salary cap was a blow to one of the biggest spenders of the league,<ref>{{cite news |title =Winners, losers, undecided in wake of free-agent frenzy|url =http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/story/8790788|author =Goldstein, Wes|publisher =CBS Sportsline|date =2005-08-31|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> the Colorado Avalanche finished the [[2005-06 NHL season|2005-06 regular season]] with a 43-30-9 record for 95 points, good enough to finish second in the Northwest division, seven behind the [[Calgary Flames]] and tied with the Edmonton Oilers. The league stopped in February for the [[2006 Winter Olympics]] in [[Torino]], [[Italy]]. The Avalanche sent an NHL leading 11 players from 8 countries.<ref>{{cite news |title =East's snubs wait for
==[[User:Zennie|Zennie]]==
their Olympic chances|url =http://www.nhl.com/features/east/east_notebook122705.html|author =Gormley, Chuck|publisher =NHL|date =2005-12-27|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> [[Finnish national men's ice hockey team|Finnish]] [[Antti Laaksonen]] got the silver medal, while [[Ossi Väänänen|Ossi Vaananen]] ended up not playing due to an injury; [[Czech national ice hockey team|Czech]] Milan Hejduk won a bronze medal.<ref name="recordbook"/> In the NHL playoffs, Colorado beat the team with the 2nd best record in the Western Conference, the Dallas Stars, in a five game series. In the Conference Semifinals, the Avalanche were swept for the first time ever, by the [[Mighty Ducks of Anaheim]]. The day after the loss, [[Pierre Lacroix]], who had been the General Manager of the franchise since 1994 when they were in Quebec, resigned and [[François Giguère|Francois Giguere]] was hired.<ref>{{cite news |title =Lacroix steps down as Colorado GM|url =http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/avalanche/2006-05-12-lacroix-resigns_x.htm|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2006-05-12|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref><ref>{{cite news |title =Avs hire Giguere as team's general manager|url =http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2456902|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2006-05-24|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> Lacroix remains to this day as President of the franchise.<ref>{{cite web |title =Pierre Lacroix Profile|url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/Team/StaffBio.aspx?SID=7|publisher =Colorado Avalanche|accessdate =2007-02-25}}</ref>
 
By the beginning of the [[2006-07 NHL season|2006-07 season]] Joe Sakic and Milan Hejduk were the only two remaining members from the 2001 Stanley Cup winning squad. Joe Sakic is the only player left from the team's days in Quebec (though Hejduk was drafted by the Nordiques), but [[Paul Stastny]], son of Nordiques legend [[Peter Stastny]], also provides a link to the past. The Avalanched missed the playoffs for the first time in their history. The team had a 15-2-2 run in the last 19 games of the season to keep their playoffs hopes alive until the penultimate day of the season. A 4-2 loss against the [[Nashville Predators]] on April 7, with Peter Forsberg assisting the game winning goal scored by Paul Kariya, knocked Colorado out of the playoff race.<ref>{{cite news |title =Predators 4, Avalanche 2|url =http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Recap&gameNumber=1225&season=20062007&gameType=2|author =|publisher =[[Associated Press]]|date =2007-04-07|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> The team won the last game of the season against the Calgary Flames on the following day and finished 4th in the Northwest Division and 9th in the Western Conference with a 44-31-7 record for 95 points, one less than the eight seed Calgary. During that last game of the season, Joe Sakic scored a goal and two assists and became the second-oldest player in NHL history to reach 100 points, behind only [[Gordie Howe]], who had 103 points at age 40 in the 1968-69 season.<ref>{{cite news |title =Avalanche 6, Flames 3|url =http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Recap&gameNumber=513&season=20062007&gameType=2|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2007-04-08|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> Until the Avalanche's 2006-2007 season, no team in the history of the NHL had ever made it to 95 points without earning a spot in the playoffs.<ref>{{cite news |title = Avs Win Season Finale |url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/GameDay/BoxScore.aspx?PGID=93&NID=893|author =|publisher =Associated Press|date =2007-04-08|accessdate =2007-06-17}}</ref> In the [[Eastern Conference (NHL)|Eastern Conference]], three teams progressed to the [[2007 NHL playoffs|playoffs]] with less than 95 points: the [[New York Rangers]] (94), the [[Tampa Bay Lightning]] (93), and the [[New York Islanders]] (92).
I have started an RfC concerning [[User:Zennie|Zennie]]. I would really appreciate it if you would certify the basis for this dispute at [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Zennie]] so that we can get Zennie's refusal to license under the GFDL resolved. You aren't under any obligation to do so, of course, but you did try to resolve this issue with the user. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 19:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
: My involvement with the case is really very limited - all I've done is post a brief comment clarifying GFDL/GPL licensing in the copyvio discussion. I don't really know as I have anything to contribute. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 19:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
===Rivalry with the Detroit Red Wings===
== [[BAYT]] ==
In [[1995-96 NHL season|1996]], the Colorado Avalanche met the [[Detroit Red Wings]] in the Western Conference Finals and won the series 4-2. During Game 6, as Red Wings player [[Kris Draper]] was skating toward the bench, he was checked into the boards face-first by Avalanche player [[Claude Lemieux]].<ref name="bloodfeud">{{cite book | last =Dater| first = Adrian| title =Blood Feud: Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avalanche| publisher =Taylor Trade Publishing| date =2006| url =http://www.denverpost.com/books/ci_5106839| isbn =1589793196}}</ref> As a result, Draper had to undergo facial reconstructive surgery, and had to have his jaw wired shut for five weeks.<ref name="avsrw10y">{{cite news |title =Happy anniversary to Red Wings, Avalanche|url =http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neumann/070326|author =Neumann, Thomas|publisher =ESPN|date =2007-03-26|accessdate =2007-03-27}}</ref> After the incident, Lemieux received many threats from Red Wings players and fans, including goalie [[Chris Osgood]].<ref name="bloodfeud"/>
 
In the following season, in the last regular season meeting between the Avalanche and Red Wings on March 26, 1997, a brawl known as [[Brawl in Hockeytown]] broke out. The game ended with 9 fights, 11 goals, 39 penalties, 148 penalty minutes, one hat-trick (by [[Valeri Kamensky]]) and a goalie fight between Stanley Cup champion goalies [[Patrick Roy]] and [[Mike Vernon]].<ref name="avsrw10y"/> Claude Lemieux was one of the players singled out by the Red Wings players.<!--needs to be reworded, but I'm not sure how.--> The Red Wings ended up winning the game in overtime 6-5.<ref name="avsrw10y"/> Both teams met again in the Conference Finals that season, with the Red Wings emerging victorious, and going on to win the Stanley Cup. In the following five years, the Avalanche and the Red Wings met three times in the playoffs, with Colorado winning the first two and losing the last.
It is not a reposted thing that was deleted it is a brand new article.--[[User:Gregorykay|Gregorykay]] 19:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
This rivalry is often considered one of the most intense rivalries in the NHL by the press and fans.<ref>{{cite news |title =Part II -- Top rivalries|url =http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview2005/news/story?id=2172427|author =|publisher =ESPN|date =2005-10-29|accessdate =2007-03-27}}</ref>
: Then what's [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BAYT|this]]? [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 00:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 
===The sell-out streak===
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After a record 487 consecutive games, the NHL's longest consecutive attendance sellout ended with the Avalanche on [[October 16]], [[2006]], after a reported attendance of 17,681, which is 326 under capacity at the [[Pepsi Center]] before a game against the [[Chicago Blackhawks]]. The streak began on [[November 9]], [[1995]], the Avalanche's eighth [[regular season]] home game during the [[1995-96 NHL season]], before a sellout of 16,061 at the [[McNichols Sports Arena]] versus the [[Dallas Stars]].<ref>{{cite news |title =Avs see sellout streak get away|url =http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_4503924|author =Frei, Terry|publisher =Denver Post|date =2006-10-17|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> The Avalanche recorded their 500th home sellout in their 515th game in Denver on [[January 20]] [[2007]], against the [[Detroit Red Wings]], a game the Avs would win 3-2.<ref>{{cite news |title = Avalanche Reaches 500th Sellout In Denver |url =http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/News/NewsDetails.aspx?NID=780|author =|publisher =Colorado Avalanche|date =2006-01-20|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref>
 
==Team colors and jersey==
That was when the history was word for word copied! it is no longer it is brand new! please remove the speedy delete! <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Gregorykay|Gregorykay]] ([[User talk:Gregorykay|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gregorykay|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- [Template:Unsigned] -->
[[Image:Colorado-alternate.gif|thumb|left|100px|Avalanche's alternate logo: the foot of Howler]]
:Zetawoof, I have put up an AfD on the page in place of your CSD, which was repeatedly being taken down. I think this is a better solution to the problem than having {{user|Gregorykay}} constanly vandalizing it and taking down your notices - [[User:Hobbeslover|Hobbeslover]] 01:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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:: That works. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 07:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
The Colorado Avalanche logo is composed by a [[Burgundy (color)|burgundy]] letter '''''A''''' with snow wrapped around, similar to an [[avalanche]]. There is a hockey puck in the lower-right end of the snow, wrapping around the logo. Around the whole logo, there's a blue oval.
 
The team's alternate logo is the foot of Howler, and can be seen on the shoulders of the Avalanche's home and away jerseys.
== Deprod [[Story of beyblade]] ==
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{{h3|Jerseys}}
[[Image:Avalanche200607jerseys.GIF|thumb|350px|right|Avalanche jerseys for the 2006-07 season: Home and away (top) and 3rd jersey (bottom)]]
The Avalanche jerseys have not changed since their first season in 1995. The team colors are burgundy, blue and white. The home jersey, which was the team's road jersey until 2003 when the [[National Hockey League|NHL]] decided to switch home and road jerseys,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=15112|title=NHL 'quacked' up with hockey jersey switch|first=Kristofer|last=Karol|publisher=[[State News]]|date=[[January 27]], [[2003]]|accessdate=2006-08-30}}</ref> is dominantly burgundy and dark blue in color. There are two black and white [[zigzag]] lines along the jersey, one in the shoulders, the other near the belly. Between them, the jersey is burgundy, outside those lines it is dark blue. Similar lines exist around the neck. The Avalanche logo is in the center of the jersey. On top of the shoulders, there is the alternate logo, one on each side. The away jersey is similar, just with different colors. The burgundy part on the home jersey is white on the away jersey, the light blue part is burgundy and the black and white lines became white and dark blue.
 
The Avalanche introduced a third jersey during the 2001-02 season.<ref>{{cite news |title =OILERS 4, AVALANCHE 1 "Third jersey' to make debut on Halloween|url =http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DP&p_theme=dp&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EF431E783FCBE23&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM|author =Dater, Adrian|publisher =Denver Post|date =2001-10-19|accessdate =2007-03-26}}</ref> It is dominantly burgundy. "Colorado" is spelled in a diagonal across the jersey where the logo is on the other jerseys. From the belly down, three large horizontal stripes, the first and the last being black and the middle one being white. In the middle of the arms, there are 5 stripes, black, white and burgundy from the outside inside in both sides.
I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from [[Story of beyblade]], which you proposed for deletion. I am leaving this message here to notify you about it. This is a perfectly fine start to an episode list article. I have moved it to [[List of Beyblade episodes]] so that it's at the right place and won't get duplicated, and I filled in the context. Hopefully others will continue to improve it. If you think notability is a concern, bring it to AfD: in my experience fancruft deletions are always somewhat controversial. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to it. Instead, feel free to list the article at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks! [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<font color="orange">'''juice'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 03:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 
==Seasons and records==
* Thanks. I'm still a bit concerned about the length, though; the article is currently a massive 136 KB, making it extremely hard to maintain. There's also precedent against full episode summaries - even [[List of Pokémon episodes|the Pokèmon series list]] doesn't summarize every episode. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
===Season-by-season record===
''This is a partial list of the last five seasons completed by the Avalanche. For the full season-by-season history, see [[Colorado Avalanche seasons]]''
 
'''''Note:''' GP = Games played, W = Wins, L = Losses, T = Ties, OTL = Overtime Losses, Pts = Points, GF = Goals for, GA = Goals against, PIM = Penalties in minutes''
==Spanish Language Redirects==
Check the [[Wikipedia:Redirect]] policy. It says non-English language redirects are good reasons to make redirects. ---[[User:Dark Tichondrias|Dark Tichondrias]] 06:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
: Only for English <tt>-&gt;</tt> foreign language redirects. Not for every single article! [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 06:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 
<small>Records as of April 9, 2007.</small><ref name="hockeydb">Hockeydb.com, [http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/teamseasons.php?tid=690 Colorado Avalanche season statistics and records]</ref>
== [[Pugalier]]s ==
 
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Thanks for the advice on the redirect and showing me where to put it
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cheers
|Season || GP || W || L || T || OTL || Pts || GF || GA || PIM || Finish || Playoffs
--[[User:Casliber|Casliber]]
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| [[2001-02 NHL season|2001-02]] || 82 || 45 || 28 || 8 || 1 || 99 || 212 || 169 || 1007 || 1st, Northwest || Lost in Conference Finals, 3-4 ([[Detroit Red Wings|Red Wings]])
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| [[2002-03 NHL season|2002-03]] || 82 || 42 || 19 || 13 || 8 || 105 || 251 || 194 || 1084 || 1st, Northwest || Lost in Conference Quarterfinals, 3-4 ([[Minnesota Wild|Wild]])
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| [[2003-04 NHL season|2003-04]] || 82 || 40 || 22 || 13 || 7 || 100 || 236 || 198 || 1293 || 2nd, Northwest || Lost in Conference Semifinals, 2-4 ([[San Jose Sharks|Sharks]])
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| [[2004-05 NHL season|2004-05]] || colspan="11"| ''Season cancelled due to [[2004-05 NHL Lockout]]''
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| [[2005-06 NHL season|2005-06]]<sup>1</sup> || 82 || 43 || 30 || — || 9 || 95 || 283 || 257 || 1130 || 2nd, Northwest || Lost in Conference Semifinals, 0-4 ([[Mighty Ducks of Anaheim|Mighty Ducks]])
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| [[2006-07 NHL season|2006-07]] || 82 || 44 || 31 || — || 7 || 95 || 272 || 251 || 864 ||4th, Northwest || Did not qualify
|}
 
:<sup>1</sup> <small>As of the [[2005-06 NHL season]], all games tied after regulation will be decided in a shootout; SOL (Shootout losses) will be recorded as OTL in the standings.</small>
== [[Nurse Joy]] ==
 
===Franchise leaders===
What harm does it do to leave the article by itself? It is descriptive, concise and informative. The AfD decision was 4 - Keep, 4 - Redirect and 1 - Merge and Keep. That is about equal, which results in '''No Consensus'''. [[User:HighwayCello|H]]<font color="#009933">[[User:HighwayCello/Esperanza|ig]]</font>[[User:HighwayCello|hway]] <sup>[[User talk:HighwayCello|Rainbow Sneakers]]</sup> 20:02, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
''Note: This list does not include stats from the [[Quebec Nordiques]] ([[WHA]] & [[NHL]]).''
<small>Records as of April 9, 2007.</small><ref name="avsdbrb">{{cite web |title =Regular Season Record Books|url =http://www.avalanchedb.com/recordbooks/regular/page1.htm|publisher =Colorado Avalanche Database|accessdate =2007-05-12}}</ref>
{{col-start}}
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{{h4|Regular season}}
*Games played: [[Joe Sakic]], 811
*Goals: Joe Sakic, 376
*Assists: Joe Sakic, 587
*Points: Joe Sakic, 963
*Penalty minutes: [[Adam Foote]], 809
*Wins: [[Patrick Roy]], 262
*Shutouts: Patrick Roy, 37
{{col-2}}
{{h4|Playoffs}}
*Games played: Joe Sakic, 150
*Goals: Joe Sakic, 75
*Assists: [[Peter Forsberg]], 93
*Points: Joe Sakic, 167
*Penalty minutes: Adam Foote, 266
*Wins: Patrick Roy, 81
*Shutouts: Patrick Roy, 18
{{col-end}}
 
===Franchise records===
: The AfD was closed as '''merge and redirect'''; you can verify this for yourself by taking a look at the closed discussion. If you would like to contest the decision, you can do so on [[WP:DRV]]. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 20:14, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
''Note: This list does not include records from the [[Quebec Nordiques]] ([[WHA]] & [[NHL]]). Items in '''bold''' are NHL records.'' <small>Records as of April 9, 2007.</small><ref name="avsdbrb"/>
 
{{h4|Regular season}}
:: But I'm saying that AfD was closed incorrectly. Can't we just amend it, what happened to "so fix it"? [[User:HighwayCello|H]]<font color="#009933">[[User:HighwayCello/Esperanza|ig]]</font>[[User:HighwayCello|hway]] <sup>[[User talk:HighwayCello|Rainbow Sneakers]]</sup> 20:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
*Most goals in a season: [[Joe Sakic]], 54 (2000-01)
*Most assists in a season: [[Peter Forsberg]], 86 (1995-96)
*Most points in a season: Joe Sakic, 120 (1995-96)
*Most penalty minutes in a season: [[Chris Simon]], 250 (1995-96)
*Most game-winning goals in a season: Joe Sakic, 12 (2000-01)
*Most points in a season, rookie: [[Paul Stastny]], 78 (2006-07)
*'''NHL record longest points streak, rookie: Paul Stastny, 20 games (2006-07)'''
*'''NHL record most consecutive games played by a defenseman: [[Karlis Skrastins]], 495 games (2000-2007 - 270 with the Nashville Predators and 225 with the Avalanche)'''
*Best [[Plus/minus|+/-]] record in a season: [[Milan Hejduk]] and Peter Forsberg, +52 (2002-03)
*Most wins in a season: [[Patrick Roy]], 40 (2000-01)
*Most shutouts in a season: Patrick Roy, 9 (2001-02)
*Best goal against average in a season: Patrick Roy, 1.94 (2001-02)
 
{{h4|Playoffs}}
::: And isn't DRV to reverse deletions? [[User:HighwayCello|H]]<font color="#009933">[[User:HighwayCello/Esperanza|ig]]</font>[[User:HighwayCello|hway]] <sup>[[User talk:HighwayCello|Rainbow Sneakers]]</sup> 20:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
*Most goals in a playoff season: Joe Sakic, 18 (1996)
*Most assists in a playoff season: Peter Forsberg, 18 (2002)
*Most points in a playoff season: Joe Sakic, 34 (1996)
*Most penalty minutes in a playoff season: [[Adam Foote]], 62 (1997)
 
{{h4|Team}}
:::: You know, I'm not sure in this case. Take it up there anyway; if that isn't the appropriate venue, I'm sure someone there can direct you to the correct one. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 21:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
*'''Most consecutive division titles (1994-5 through 2002-3), 9'''<ref name="divtitrec"/>
*Most points in a season: 118 (2000-01)
*Most wins in a season: 52 (2000-01)
*Most goals: 336 (1995-96)
*Largest margin of victory: 10 (Dec. 12, 1995 vs San Jose (12-2))
 
==Current roster==
:::::I have expand on the article a fair deal, and I have been informed that since this article is not the same as the one that nominated for AfD (content wise), the decision can't be upheld. Cheers, [[User:HighwayCello|H]]<font color="#009933">[[User:HighwayCello/Esperanza|ig]]</font>[[User:HighwayCello|hway]] <sup>[[User talk:HighwayCello|Rainbow Sneakers]]</sup> 22:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
<small>As of April 27th, [[2006-07 NHL season|2007]]. [http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/team/PlayersNumber.asp]</small>
 
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==[[Furry fandom]]==
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I did not vandalize that article.I just thought that it had a PPOV instead of a NPOV like it should.I'm not one of those "LOL FURRIES" people,I am simply trying to make it objective.Oh,and sorry if this username doesn't exist,I can't remember if I had an account on here.--[[User:67.23.176.12|67.23.176.12]] 02:21, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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: Please don't deliberately misrepresent the time and date of your edits. It really doesn't make a good impression. Your edits were hardly objective, and have been reverted multiple times by multiple users. Continuing to make these changes will lead to your being blocked from editing. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Peter Budaj]]
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|[[Banská Bystrica]], [[Czechoslovakia]]
 
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== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Animated series batman]] ==
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Hi, What did you do with animated series batman. I didn't know what was a kikiproject and I'm not sure Animated Series Batman should (or souldn't) be one. It's supposed to tell the bio of [[DAAU]] version of Batman. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the Wise Scarecrow]] ([[User talk:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
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|[[Jose Theodore]]
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|[[Laval, Quebec]]
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: The header of the page described it as a WikiProject: "Some Wikipedians have formed a project to better organize information in articles related to Animated Series Batman. This page and its subpages contain their suggestions; it is hoped that this project will help to focus the efforts of other Wikipedians." There appears to be a partially formed article halfway down the page; do you want me to split this out to a proper article? [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 22:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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::So does that mean that you are leading this Project? Cause I don't see any discussion anywhere about turning it into a Project - I see discussion about merging the article. A more complete explanation of why you did what you did, on the talk page, would be appreciated. [[User:CovenantD|CovenantD]] 22:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Ken Klee]]
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|[[Indianapolis, Indiana]]
 
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::: No, I have no interest in leading the project. I simply noticed that the page opened by describing itself as a WikiProject, and moved it accordingly. If the WikiProject header was added inappropriately, then I'd fully support a move back to article namespace. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 22:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Karlis Skrastins]]
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|[[Riga]], [[Soviet Union|U.S.S.R.]]
 
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:Yes, there has been such mention. I made it, the only problem is that I didn't know what was exactly a wikiproject. I think I'm gona undo the whole thing.--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 22:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[John-Michael Liles]]
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|align=center|[[2000 NHL Entry Draft|2000]]
|[[Zionsville, Indiana]]
 
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:::Zetawoof, please do move it back. As you can see from T-man's post, he didn't know what he was doing when he added that. The article itself probably isn't going to exist for much longer as most people support merging it into other articles. [[User:CovenantD|CovenantD]] 22:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Brett Clark]]
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|[[Wapella (Saskatchewan)|Wapella]], [[Saskatchewan]]
 
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:::: Will do. (Never mind; appears to be done.) [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 23:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Jeff Finger]]
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|align=center|[[1999 NHL Entry Draft|1999]]
|[[Houghton, Michigan]]
 
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==[[List of Japanese female porn stars]] nominated for deletion==
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Hi, Zetawoof. You seem to have some interest in the topic, so I thought you might want to know, [[List of Japanese female porn stars]] has been nominated for deletion. Maybe you'd like to contribute to the discussion? -- [[User:Dekkappai|Dekkappai]] 03:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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: Yup, and I've already voted. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
|[[Ossi Vaananen]]
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|[[Vantaa]], [[Finland]]
 
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==[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film)]]==
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|[[Kurt Sauer]]
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::: Given that [[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film)|the OotP movie]] isn't expected to be out for another year or so, it's unlikely that much has been done toward getting started on the HBP film. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 00:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
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::::Correct...though Muggle Net and IMDB are reporting this. Obviously, they haven't chosen a director yet but then David Heyman's going to produce this film and Steve Kloves will do the Screenplay and it is highly likely David Barron going to "Execuite Produce" the film. Also, it is likely Dan, Rupert and Emma will return. [[User:ForestH2|ForestH2]]
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::::: Replying back on the article talk page, where it belongs. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
|[[Jordan Leopold]]
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|[[Golden Valley, Minnesota]]
 
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|[[Patrice Brisebois]]<small> ([[Injured reserve|IR]])</small>
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|align=center|[[2005-06 NHL season|2005]]
|[[Montreal, Quebec]]
|}
 
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==[[Furry fandom]] Edits==
!colspan=7 |<center><big>Forwards
Please read the edits I have made to [[Furry Fandom]] before deciding to revert them. The edits in question removed POV and added information. [[User:68.69.194.125|68.69.194.125]] 06:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
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: The fact that you referred to the edit as a "wiki war" was reason enough for me to revert it, ''no matter'' what the content involved was. Add to that your multiple previous blocks for revert warring, and... [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 08:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
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|align=center|{{flagicon|CAN}}<!--Note: Wolski plays for Team Canada-->
|[[Wojtek Wolski]]<sup>1</sup>
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|align=center|[[2004 NHL Entry Draft|2004]]
|[[Zabrze]], [[Poland]]
 
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So basically you are saying that once a person has been blocked for vandalism, every edit they make from then on is vandalism? How about reading my edits before you revert? Better yet, try not to whitewash wikipedia articles. [[User:68.69.194.125|68.69.194.125]] 04:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Brad Richardson]]
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|[[Belleville, Ontario]]
 
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: Once a user has vandalized sufficiently that they've been blocked for vandalism, it's generally considered a fair assumption that subsequent edits they make to the same article may be considered suspect. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Ian Laperriere]] - '''[[Captain (ice hockey)#Alternate captains|A]]'''
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|align=center|[[2004-05 NHL season|2004]]
|[[Montreal, Quebec]]
 
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Thats one theory. Another is that you are simply a furry zealot who automatically changes edits that might paint the furry fandom in a negative light, regardless of whether they are relevant or sourced. [[User:68.69.194.125|68.69.194.125]] 05:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Andrew Brunette]] - '''[[Captain (ice hockey)#Alternate captains|A]]'''
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|[[Sudbury, Ontario]]
 
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== Why the deletion? ==
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|[[Joe Sakic]] - '''[[Captain (ice hockey)|C]]'''
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|align=center|[[1987 NHL Entry Draft|1987]]
|[[Burnaby, British Columbia]]
 
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Hi Zetawoof,
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Why did you propose the deletion (and I'm assuming, you carried it out) of the Mourning September article I was writing? Did you read my defense on the talk page?
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--[[User:Eudaemonic3|eudaemonic3]] 07:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
|[[Mark Rycroft]]
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|[[Penticton, British Columbia]]
 
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: I'm not a [[WP:ADMIN|Wikipedia administrator]] - I didn't carry out the deletion. In any case, the group didn't appear to meet [[WP:BAND|Wikipedia's criteria for band notability]] - they only had one album listed, and no charted hits. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 08:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Milan Hejduk]]
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|align=center|[[1994 NHL Entry Draft|1994]]
|[[Ústí nad Labem]], [[Czechoslovakia]]
 
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==Your edit to [[Watford office Options]]==
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Your recent edit to [[Watford office Options]] was reverted by an '''automated bot''' that attempts to recognize and repair [[Wikipedia:vandalism|vandalism]] to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. '''[[User:Tawkerbot2/FAQ|Click here]]''' for '''frequently asked questions''' about the bot and this warning. // [[User:Tawkerbot2|Tawkerbot2]] 08:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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==Articles for Deletion==
|[[Paul Stastny]]
Thanks for the advice![[User:WilyD|WilyD]] 12:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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: Sure, no problem. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 20:05, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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==Thanks==
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Thanks for the info on Furry[[User:Settersr|Settersr]] 21:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
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: You're welcome. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 21:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
|[[Ben Guite]]
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|[[Montreal, Quebec]]
 
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== Removal of Section "Cursed News Groups" (from [[Curse]]) ==
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I assume that you intend to follow the policies and guidelines of WP participation.
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Correcting a newly added sentence that you know to be wrong is also much better than
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simply deleting it.
|[[Tyler Arnason]]
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Blanking, the removal of all or significant parts of articles is a common vandal edit.
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|[[Marek Svatos]]
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|[[Košice]], [[Czechoslovakia]]
 
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Please do not remove content from Wikipedia; it is considered [[Wikipedia:Vandalism|vandalism]]. If you want to experiment, please use the [[Wikipedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:Test2a (Second level warning) --> [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 19:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Brett McLean]]
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: Sir, you have so far been reverted by no less than four different people, and have been blocked twice under 3RR for reinserting the section. The text you're attempting to insert is largely unsourced, and borders on patent nonsense. If you want to discuss the insertion of this section, you may do so on [[Talk:Curse|the article's talk page]]; however, until a consensus can be arrived at that the section belongs in the article, it stays out. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 00:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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|[[Pierre Turgeon]] <small> ([[Injured reserve|IR]])</small>
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*To see the player roster and bios, click [http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/Team/Roster.aspx here.]
:: Ma'am. And the requirements for both verification and NPOV have been met as discussed in the talk-page.
:: You should yourself supply justification for your POV which declares "patent nonsense". Your reasons are
:: opinionated and do not challenge the discussion presented. Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 02:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 
<small>1. Wojtek Wolski plays for Team Canada. He was born in Poland but became a naturalized Canadian citizen in 1990. </SMALL>
::: There has been basically no "discussion" on the talk page. And I suppose "patent nonsense" is a bit harsh, but the fact remains that you've presented some bizarre but non-notable claims without any real kind of support. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 
===Honored Members===
: Again, all of the various curses listed on the page are "bizarre" from the NPOV and on that point we
{{see also|List of Colorado Avalanche players|Colorado Avalanche notable players and award winners}}
: agree. The purpose of the list is to show the various types of bizarre curses. It makes the article
{| cellpadding="1" border="0" style="float: right; margin: 0em 0em 1em 1em; width: 215px; border: 1px #bbbbbb solid; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 85%;"
: interesting. Due to a person whom was blanking the addition and not participating in discussion, I
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: of that person and my failing to report the same in a more apparent fashion. I am not very experienced,
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: but am learning very quickly. Please have some patience. Support in numbers has never indicated much
| Player || Games || Years
: more than numeric superiority. :) I took the brunt of the war, but I would still like to see this
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: article expanded. There is also no mention of the Video Tape even though it was mentioned before.
| [[Joe Sakic]] || 811 || 1995-present
: I added to the bottom of the discussion this morning showing how the newsgroup section meets each of
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: the tests givin in the documentation about verifiability as a self-published source. Please review.
| [[Milan Hejduk]] || 624 || 1998-present
: The weak point in that verifiability is that of notability, however, because of the source itself
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: that the article speaks about being considered unverifiable, what appears to be an infinite loop
| [[Adam Foote]] || 592 || 1995-2004
: in logic then ensues. Consider the following statement: Some people on UseNet believe in curses.
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: True? Yes. Verifiable? Yes. Per the tests of verifiability? ???? Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 05:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
| [[Peter Forsberg]] || 533 || 1995-2004
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Stephane Yelle]] || 505 || 1995-2002
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Patrick Roy]] || 478 || 1995-2003
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Alex Tanguay]] || 450 || 1999-2006
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Adam Deadmarsh]] || 405 || 1995-2001
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Jon Klemm]] || 393 || 1995-2001
|- align="center" bgcolor=#FFFFFF
| [[Eric Messier]] || 385 || 1996-2003
|- align="center" bgcolor=#EEDFCC
| colspan="3" align="center" | ''Source: [http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/ttotdisplay.php?tid=690 HockeyDB.com]''<br>''<small>As of April 9, 2007 - Regular Season data<small/>''
|}
''Retired Numbers'': The Avalanche have retired two numbers: '''77''' of [[Ray Bourque]] and '''33''' of [[Patrick Roy]].<ref>{{cite news |title =Patrick Roy #33 to Be Retired|url =http://www.sportzdomain.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=14361&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0|author =|publisher =http://www.sportzdomain.com|date =2003-05-29|accessdate =2007-03-25}}</ref> The number '''99''' of [[Wayne Gretzky]] is retired league-wide. The numbers retired when the franchise was in Quebec were entered back into circulation after the move to Colorado.
 
''Hall of Famers'': Ray Bourque played in the NHL for 22 seasons with the [[Boston Bruins]] and was traded, by request, to Colorado in 2000 so he could have a chance of winning the Stanley Cup before retiring.<ref name="bourque"/> In a feat termed Mission 16W, the Avs were able to win the Stanley Cup, thus allowing Bourque the championship he had been seeking for 22 seasons.<ref>{{cite news |title ='Mission 16W' accomplished for Avalanche|url =http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/cup01/2001-06-11-avalanche-cover.htm|author =Allen, Kevin|publisher =[[USA Today]]|date =2001-06-10|accessdate =2007-05-11}}</ref>
:: Take it to [[Talk:Curse|the talk page]]. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 06:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Patrick Roy]] played from 1995 to 2003 in Colorado and won two Stanley Cups with the Colorado Avalanche. Roy recorded 551 career victories, the most career wins for any goaltender in the NHL.<ref>{{cite web |title =Legends of Hockey - Roy, Patrick|url =http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p200602&type=Player&page=bio&list=ByYear#photo|publisher =[[Hockey Hall of Fame]]|accessdate =2007-05-11}}</ref>
: I just checked there again, and you haven't commented. Please see notes below the heading there
: "Self-published sources in articles about themselves" which are verbatim from the documentation with
: reasoning interspersed. Those are my comments. I didn't see your rebuttal. Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 08:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 
Both Bourque and Roy were inducted into the [[Hockey Hall of Fame]]. The only other Avalanche player to be inducted is [[Jari Kurri]] who played the last season of his career with the franchise, yet his jersey does not hang from the rafters at the Pepsi Center.<ref>{{cite web |title =Legends of Hockey - Colorado Avalanche|url =http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsPlayersByTeam.jsp?team=Colorado+Avalanche|publisher =[[Hockey Hall of Fame]]|accessdate =2007-05-11}}</ref>
:: I said, take it to the talk page. I haven't taken the time to write a response there, but I plan to. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 08:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Bryan Trottier]], who was an assistant coach when the Avalanche won their second Stanley Cup in 2001, was inducted to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1997 (as a player).<ref>{{cite web |title =Legends of Hockey - Trottier, Bryan|url =http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p199702&type=Player&page=bio&list=ByTeam&team=Colorado%20Avalanche#photo|publisher =[[Hockey Hall of Fame]]|accessdate =2007-05-11}}</ref>
== [[Next Door Nikki]] ==
Zetawoof Having stated your perspective, I wonder if you would give me your opinion on another article which I have recently made changes to. Please review the history over the past day or two carefully before making any assumptions. Please reply here on your page if you wish, I have it on my watchlist for that purpose. Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 00:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==Leaders==
: You're removing sources. Don't. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 00:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
{{h3|Team captains}}
''Note: This list of team [[Captain (hockey)|captains]] does not include captains from the [[Quebec Nordiques]] ([[WHA]] & [[NHL]]).''
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center"
|-
!rowspan="1"|
!rowspan="1"|Nat
!rowspan="1"|From
!rowspan="1"|To
!colspan="1"|Notes
|-
|align=left|[[Joe Sakic]]
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
|align=left|1995
|align=left|present
|
|-
|align=left|[[Sylvain Lefebvre]]
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
|align=left|1997
|align=left|1998
|Interim
|}
 
{{h3|General Managers}}
Thank you for that. Should unqualified sources remain on the article then? [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 01:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
''Note: This list does not include general managers from the [[Quebec Nordiques]] ([[WHA]] & [[NHL]]).''
{| class="wikitable"
|-
!rowspan="1"|
!rowspan="1"|Nat
!rowspan="1"|From
!rowspan="1"|To
|-
|[[Pierre Lacroix]]
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
|1995
|2006
|-
|[[François Giguère|Francois Giguere]]
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
|2006
|present
|}
 
{{h3|Head coaches}}
: Depends on what they are. The sources that you removed are definitive for the subject - the first one was the very web site that the article is talking about! - so they should stay. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
''Note: This list does not include head coaches from the [[Quebec Nordiques]] ([[WHA]] & [[NHL]]).''
 
<small>Records as of April 9, 2007.</small><ref name="hockeydb"/>
Thanks again, I put them back under external links. You being familiar with the curse page, and how its layed out wiki style, could you take a look and give me a 2nd opinion on what sort of list of things should be included here for sections? Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 02:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center"
 
|-
Hey now! :) You took out the reference links that were the cites for the statement that the same company owning both web sites. Why?
!rowspan="2"|
 
!rowspan="2"|Nat
*[http://whois.domaintools.com/nextdoornikki.com Registrar Listing for Company that owns www.nextdoornikki.com]
!rowspan="2"|From
*[http://whois.domaintools.com/www.phil-flash-cash.com Registrar Listing for Company that owns www.phil-flash-cash.com]
!rowspan="2"|To
 
!colspan="7"|Regular Season
[[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 02:44, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
!colspan="4"|Playoffs
 
|-
: Ack, no, you made it worse. A few points:
!G!!W!!L!!T!!OTL!!SOL!!Pct!!G!!W!!L!!Pct
:* Never, ever use phrases like "it is alleged" or "some say". They're considered [[WP:WEASEL|weasel words]]. Cite a source, or find a way
|-
:* Don't link to the Wikipedia meta namespace (WP:whatever) from article space.
|align=left|[[Marc Crawford]]
I removed those links because they weren't obviously relevant.
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
[[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 05:57, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
|align=left|[[1995-96 NHL season|1995]]
 
|align=left|[[1997-98 NHL season|1998]]
After some investigation I was able to uncover some notoriaty, however, the name of the woman on that site is owned by the company she works for. That same company (based on P.O. Box address in Vancouver) has been cited for fraud, spam, and all sorts of things. Send me an e-mail if you'd like the address, etc. Thanks! :) [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 09:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
||246||135||75||36||—||—||.622||46||29||17||.630
 
|-
: I am, quite honestly, not all that interested, and I don't expect the encyclopedia is either. Wikipedia isn't investigative journalism; it's an encyclopedia. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 19:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
|align=left|[[Bob Hartley]]
 
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
==AI USA==
|align=left|[[1998-99 NHL season|1998]]
 
|align=left|[[2002-03 NHL season|2002]]
Amnesty International USA is a large organisation with a seperate history to that of Amnesty International. Many of the things the organisation campaigns on are unique to AI USA. It has over '''350,000''' members, and as such is far more notable than the vast majority of orgs on this encyclopedia. Plus you created a double redirect - if you think that the org is deletable then you should [[WP:AfD|AfD]] it. Not asking for comment on the talk page is another blatant discourtesy. [[User:Mostlyharmless|Mostlyharmless]] 05:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
||359||193||108||48||10||—||.618||80||49||31||.613
 
|-
: Responded on [[Talk:Amnesty International USA|article talk page]]. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 05:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
|align=left|[[Tony Granato]]
 
|{{flagicon|USA}}
::Slow down, there's no real urgency [[User:Mostlyharmless|Mostlyharmless]] 22:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
|align=left|[[2002-03 NHL season|2002]]
 
|align=left|[[2003-04 NHL season|2004]]
:::Noted. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 23:41, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
||133||72||33||17||11||—||.647||18||9||9||.500
== [[Tutawa]] copyvio==
|-
Thanks Zetawoof. I was in the process of making the entry when you got there first :-) I got the edit conflict message.
|align=left|[[Joel Quenneville]]
But I found a different page [[http://www.sacred-texts.com/pac/grey/grey03.htm]] with the exact text. Should that be noted on the copyio page too?
|{{flagicon|Canada}}
Thanks again.
|align=left|[[2005-06 NHL season|2005]]
[[User:Btball|Brian]] 10:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)btball
|align=left|present
 
||164||87||61||—||6||10||.579||9||4||5||.444
: Probably not necessary. All that's needed for a copyvio is at least one other source. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 10:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
|}
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. &mdash;[[User:Xyrael|Xyra]][[User:Xyrael/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Xyrael|l]] <sub>/ <em>15:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)</em></sub>
: No problem. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 19:34, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==[[Authorship of A Course in Miracles]]==
 
<sup> [[26 June]] [[2006]] 01:27 </sup> [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] '''wrote''': Correct me if I'm wrong, since you've been at this awhile longer, okay? I went through the citations of this page and converted them all to cite-web templates and tried to find the correct author and so forth. If you get any spare time, would you mind swinging over there and giving it a once over? I'd appreciate you letting me know if I screwed anything up. Thanks. :)
 
: That looks more or less OK, with the minor "gotcha" that dates in {{tl|cite web}} don't need to be bracketed - I think the template does that on its own. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Furry fandom]] ==
 
What would you suggest we do to get rid of this IP who's so single-mindedly replacing his incorrect edits on this article? I pointed out the problems with his edits on the talk page, but he's just reverted yet again. Suggestions? My patience is wearing very thin. [[User:Tony Fox|Tony Fox]] <small>[[User_talk:Tony Fox|(speak)]]</small> 05:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 
: Just keep on reverting, I guess. There's not really a lot you can do with a user that simply won't listen, I'm afraid, and this one smells particularly trollish. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 00:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Agnes (band)]] ==
 
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand what you're saying there. What am I to insert, and where? I just think I could get a better explanation than a simple notice. And I would say the band is popular enough. If 3 songs isn't enough to make the band popular, maybe the fact that he's a member of another very popular band is enough. Tell me what I should do here, I think the article would be good to keep. [[User:RoryS89|RoryS89]] 06:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)RoryS89
 
: There are some pretty specific criteria for what is generally considered to make a musician or a musical group "popular enough" to get a Wikipedia article: [[WP:MUSIC|you may want to read them]]. Now, I did overlook that Dave Douglas appears to have some significant notability on his own; however, this doesn't ''necessarily'' mean that a side project of his is notable. Even so, I've removed the speedy tag. If you could dig up some information on [[Agnes (band)|Agnes]] that demonstrates its popularity - or, at least, importance - as an independent entity, that'd be great. Otherwise, though, it probably belongs in [[Dave Douglas (drummer)|Dave Douglas]]'s page, with a redirect. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 07:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==Archived Debate==
Hey! Knowing that you close debates sometimes, what is the code the makes a gray box and says "The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.". I know if you hit edit you can see the markup, but I'm pretty sure no one does this. I couldn't find any template, nor could I find it on the AFD page. So what's the template?[[User:TeckWiz|'''TeckWiz''']]<sup>[[User_talk:TeckWiz|Talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/TeckWiz|Contribs]]</small><sub>[[User:TeckWiz/Guestbook|Guestbook]]</sub> 14:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 
: The templates are {{tl|at}} and {{tl|ab}}. {{tl|at}} doesn't take a parameter; instead, follow it by the result ("keep" / "delete" / "no consensus"). Make sure to subst both. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 15:39, 30 June 2006 (UTC).
::Okay/ Thanks! Also, is tl, like you did for the template names, another way to do <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> ? [[User:TeckWiz|'''TeckWiz''']]<sup>[[User_talk:TeckWiz|Talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/TeckWiz|Contribs]]</small><sub>[[User:TeckWiz/Guestbook|Guestbook]]</sub> 11:38, 5 July 2006
 
::: Ouch, careful with the <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki>s! Anyway: Yes, more or less. There's actually a template called {{tl|tl}} (how's that for recursion?) which generates the output a slightly different way, so as to create a link to the template page itself. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 11:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Oh. I get it. It basically is <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> except that the middle has a link to the template instead of no link at all and instead of the actual template being displayed. Okay. Thanks for answering both my questions. [[User:TeckWiz|'''TeckWiz''']]<sup>[[User_talk:TeckWiz|Talk]]</sup><small>[[Special:Contributions/TeckWiz|Contribs]]</small><sub>[[User:TeckWiz/Guestbook|Guestbook]]</sub> 21:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== would appreciate your opinion ==
 
Could you take a look at [[Charles Buell Anderson]] please? I still remember what you told me about [[WP:VER]] and why my addition to [[Curse]] should be blanked. Thank you. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 19:30, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: Looks like the vetting of sources is going reasonably well to me. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 21:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== iTunes article ==
 
Thanks for taking the time to cleanup that crap. I didn't even notice it. --[[User:Mboverload|mboverload]][[Special:Emailuser/Mboverload|<font color="red">@</font>]] 05:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 
* No problem. I just happened to notice it when another user made a nearby edit, and it showed up in the diff. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 05:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==Whites==
Can you kindly look into Al Andalus' mass reverts? Thanks.[[User:Yukirat|Yukirat]] 08:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
: I'm not involved in the article at the moment. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 08:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::The following is a message I sent to a user after he contacted me, and which he later retracted his comment because of the situation with Yurikat. Please see my [[User talk:Al-Andalus|talk page]].
 
::''Thanks for your message. May I recomend, however, that you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=White_%28people%29&diff=62848856&oldid=62848394 compare the edition] that is being put up by Yukirat. He deletes content which on top of being sourced, also has consensus in talk. The content which continues to be deleted was not contributed and researched by me, but by other users. Personally, I don't agree with much of it, but it has been sourced and they have their references.''
 
::''I have already put a complaint against the users constant use of "that's anti-White" as his sole defense for deletion of sourced content. If he want's to make allegations (and I've evven asked the user to define what to him constitues "anti-White") then he has to back them up. I am not the first user, you can see [[Talk:White (people)|the talk page]], that has asked him to explain himself and all that is given back is either silence or more one sentence replies stating over and over again "anti-White", "controversial", "hate", but not once define or explain what or why they are so.'' '''[[User:Al-Andalus|Al-Andalus]] 07:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC)'''
 
::: Both of you have violated 3RR extensively. Sit it out for a bit, then take it up on the talk page. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 09:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==Image copyright question==
 
Thanks for your response to my question on the Village Pump. I was just looking through the [[Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags|Image copyright tags]] to see if the photo might fit in any other category. Could it be argued that the image ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Minamata_Chisso_Industrial_Waste.jpg]) might fall under Fair Use as a [[Template:HistoricPhoto|HistoricPhoto]] at all? Since the pipe no longer exists, the photo definitely represents a non-reproducible historic event. What about if it were reduced in resolution? Again, thanks for your help. [[User:Bobo12345|Bobo12345]] 08:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: Hmm. Technically, yes, but it'd never stand up. The photo only really documents the existence of the pipe, which isn't the historical event described in the article. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 09:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
Isn't the historical event the act of pollution from the pipe? That certainly is described in the article. The picture would perfectly illustrate the act of pollution from the Chisso plant. I understand that Fair Use is a grey area, so it's hard to say one way or the other. But if so, isn't it best to be bold and use it? Somebody can always contest Fair Use if they think it's a copyright infringment and if so, it can be removed. I can reduce the resolution, so that only the thumbnail-size version exists on the server - just enough to illustrate the article as per the [[Template:HistoricPhoto|HistoricPhoto]] outline... What do you think? [[User:Bobo12345|Bobo12345]] 13:33, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: [[Image:Water_pollution.jpg|right|thumb|A generic "pollution" image]] {{tl|HistoricPhoto}} is really only appropriate when the photograph uniquely documents the event in some way - for example, the photo [[Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima]] uniquely documents the [[Battle of Iwo Jima]]. This picture isn't really quite that way - although it does document ''something'' historic, it doesn't really show anything that another generic image, like the one to the right, couldn't. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 19:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Furry Fandom Reverts ==
 
Hey, can you explain why you reverted the citations I added to the '''Conventions''' section in the [[Furry Fandom]] page? The update comment said "see talk," but the talk page only referred to the paragraph you removed, and not the citations I added. --[[User:Dajagr|Dajagr]] 16:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: Hm, I'm not quite sure how that happened. Definitely unintentional - and fixed now; thanks for pointing that out. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:: No prob. Given the close proximity of the edits (within 2 minutes of each other) I'm guessing that yours just clobbered mine. I didn't want to restore them until I had given you time to comment, in case there was some reasoning behind it. Thanks! --[[User:Dajagr|Dajagr]] 01:32, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::: I'm surprised it happened, though; you're supposed to get an "edit conflict" page when that happens. The servers were acting a bit weird, though - I was getting occasional server errors on save - so who knows... [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 
=='Redirect to main article. Don't fork unnecessarily'==
 
Please explain what this recent addition to my watchlist re the article entitled '[[Reform of the Spelling of the English Language]]' means. [[User:Etaonsh|Etaonsh]] 05:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
Ah! Now I know what you mean: you have decided to delete wholesale the new article I started. So much for 'free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.'! What a sham! [[User:Etaonsh|Etaonsh]] 07:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: The new articles you were creating were identical in purpose and extremely similar in content to an existing one. There's no point in creating two articles that describe the exact same thing. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 08:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:: That is simply untrue. You are suppressing the fact and discussion of the inherent racism and implied ownership in the phrase '''English'' Spelling Reform,' in a totally dishonest manner which altogether subverts and undermines any concept of a 'free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.'. [[User:Etaonsh|Etaonsh]] 10:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::: The fact remains that the subjects of [[Reform of the Spelling of the English Language]] and [[Reform of the Spelling of English]] are both the same as the subject of [[English spelling reform]]. If you really have a problem with the title for the current article, bring it up on [[Talk:English spelling reform]] - propose a move. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 15:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::::''Of course'' I 'have a problem' with the current title, the very substance of which you seemed to suppress - this isn't some intellectual playground - not for some of us, anyway. So I've followed your suggestion, proposed a move, and BINGO! - maybe the other guys will actually read it in a hundred years or so. [[User:Etaonsh|Etaonsh]] 16:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:::: Now the only problem, mr.woof, with what you're proposing, is that a 'move' presumably involves the deletion of the current article, thus obscuring the fact of the historical English role in unnecessarily arcane spelling, and the Celtic role in exposing that? [[User:Etaonsh|Etaonsh]] 16:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::::: No; there's actually a specific procedure for moving a page that preserves the page's edit history. See [[Help:Moving a page]] for more information. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 19:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Quackpotwatch ==
 
I think you have confused what was being said. Nothing was said about the nominator at all. In fact if you look at the edit history of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Scorpiondollprincess .. really examine what the person wrote, have you ever seen a person with basically zero experience on Wikipedia use terms and explanations like that? That's why it looks highly suspect for someone who has multiple accounts. -- [[User:Stbalbach|Stbalbach]] 05:06, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: Naw, just looks like they discovered AfD early. Suspicious would be if every single edit were related to this single article. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 05:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::I'm not really talking about the article. Read in detail what this person is writing. They are pulling out terms and rules and regs that I've never even heard of and I've been here 3 years. This is not a newbie, newbies don't act like old vets. It's really not even surprising, some people prefer to use a sock account when dealing with issues that can result in conflicts, and AfD's are that kind of thing. -- [[User:Stbalbach|Stbalbach]] 05:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Flipping through that user's contributions briefly, it looks like they're not new to Wikipedia, but their contributions to AfD are generally high-quality and precisely the kind of commentary AfD discussions need. Whatever the case, it could just be as simple as someone not remembering their password, or maybe they're learning by seeing how others contribute. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:larger;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> -/- [[User:Warrens|Warren]]</span> 06:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Furry Fandom]] reverts (2) ==
Just commenting to alert you of this: [[Talk:Furry_fandom#Please_stop_reverting_legitimate_edits.]] - [[User:81.178.86.15|81.178.86.15]] 03:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: Noted. The article's on my watchlist, so you don't need to remind me. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 04:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 
The citations you reverted made no connection between the subject they were discussing and the furry fandom. The selective nature in which you reverted these citations but not others is evidence of the hypocrisy and bias that this article is riddled with. - [[User:81.178.86.15|81.178.86.15]] 10:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: If you have a problem with the citations, ''take it up on the article's talk page''. Don't remove the citations wholesale. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 21:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Why not include Kukality? Its not Neologism!!==
Juust want to verify something.Please be fair ! thank you <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:202.153.235.78|202.153.235.78]] ([[User talk:202.153.235.78|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/202.153.235.78|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small>
: A [http://www.google.com/search?q=kukality Google search] doesn't turn anything up. Are you sure you have the word spelled correctly? In any case, [[WP:NOT|Wikipedia is not]] a dictionary. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 15:38, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==House Made of Dawn==
Hi. I've done some major work on the [[House Made of Dawn]] article that you tagged as over-long. The work includes pruning 13,500 words of literary analysis and some other POV paragraphs as well. While I agree that work could still be done to precis the over-long chapter summaries, I think that it's back in line with the rest of Wikipedia and a fitting size for such a major work. Could you please take a look,a nd if you agree with me could you please delete your overlong tag? I'm always reluctant to remove other editors' tags without their say-so. Cheers! [[User:Vizjim|Vizjim]] 09:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 
: It's still rather long, if you ask me - the "allusions" section, in particular, seems to recap material which should exist somewhere else in Wikipedia. (If it isn't anywhere else, then some articles need to be written!) The References section is rather lengthy as well, particularly considering that none of the reference works appear to be referenced (ha ha) in the article. If they're meant as further reading, then the number seems kind of excessive. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 09:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 
::I do ask you, and what you say makes sense. I'll get my pruning shears out once again when I can summon up the energy. In the meantime, I suspect that these edits won't prove to be entirely uncontroversial, so it would be great if you could please add comments to the discussion page of the article as well! All the best, [[User:Vizjim|Vizjim]] 09:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:Changes have been made (I simply split off the useful information into new articles and expande the see also section). Again, please check and if you agree delete the tag. Cheers! [[User:Vizjim|Vizjim]] 09:48, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 
:: ''Excellent'' work. If {{user|Kevinalewis}} hadn't removed the verylong tag, I would have done it myself. I'm particularly pleased about the improvement in the article's grade (from Start to B). [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 15:40, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Oops and thanks ==
 
Thanks for alerting me to my problem reversion on the horse article. Somewhere along the line the article got pretty badly messed up with some vandalism that didn't get caught until after some other edits. I'll be a little more alert next time. [[User:Montanabw|Montanabw]] 06:20, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Underhanded C Contest]] ==
 
I have noticed when you closed the above AfD, you did not remove the category template, "REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE
WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD". By deleting this when closing it pulls the discussion out of the category. I have
deleted it from this discussion, but if you could review any other closures you have done recently and
remove the tag from them it would be greatly appreicated. This is a fairly recent change. The official
policy is at [[WP:AFDC]]. I have been going through the listing in each of the categories [[CAT:AFD]] and
removing the tag from pages that are closed and adding the approriate category code for those in the
uncatagorised group. Thanks.--[[User:Gay Cdn|Gay Cdn]] <small>[[User talk:Gay Cdn|(talk)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Gay Cdn|(email)]] [[Special:Contributions/Gay Cdn|(Contr.)]]</small> 20:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 
: Ack, thanks. I've fixed a few other ones I closed where that was an issue. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 20:45, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 
==Sword of Truth Characters==
Regarding your suggestions about how to deal with the characters in the Sword of Truth: I'm on it, you just happened to be a little too quick for me.
 
I just started the [[WP:SoT|Sword of Truth WikiProject]] this afternoon, and I hadn't really had a chance to flesh it out, but now I have, and if you look at the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Sword of Truth#Tasks|tasks section]], you'll notice that I've signed up for the first task, which is to converge all those SoT character pages. Once the merging and redirecting is done, we can see what is left over and what needs to be deleted. All I ask is a little patience, as this could be a rather long, tedious task. Thanks, [[User:Runch|Runch]] 00:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
 
: Excellent. What I'm after specifically, though, is the subtask of finding all the existing stubs and deciding what to do with all of them. This is closely related, but not quite the same thing - it's specifically aimed at cleaning up and/or removing existing articles. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 01:05, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
== AfD Nomination: [[Michele Besso]] ==
<div style="padding:5px; background-color:#F1D1EE"> An article that you have been involved in editing, [[Michele Besso]], has been listed at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michele Besso]]. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. <!-- Template:Adw --></div> --[[User:TruthbringerToronto|TruthbringerToronto]] ([[User_talk:TruthbringerToronto|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/TruthbringerToronto|contribs)]] 18:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 
==WikiserverSee AFDalso==
*[[List of Colorado Avalanche players]]
*[[Head Coaches of the Colorado Avalanche]]
*[[Quebec Nordiques]]
*[[List of NHL players]]
*[[List of NHL seasons]]
*[[List of Stanley Cup champions]]
 
==References==
This wasn't orphaned, just still open - it was in the Sept 16 log. I've removed it from there now per the relisting instructions. Cheers, [[User:Yomangani|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0000ee">Yomangani</span>]][[User_talk:Yomangani|<sup>talk</sup>]] 16:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
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* {{cite web|url=http://hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/teamseasons.php?tid=690|title=Colorado Avalanche season statistics and records|publisher=The Internet Hockey Database|accessdate=2007-03-25}}
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==House Made of Dawn / HQCentral==
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He's ba-ack...
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==External links==
Someone spotted the analysis article and, rightly, deleted it. So HQCentral is back and re-inserting the material into the article. Having watched his bahaviour on a few other projects I know that this is going to be difficult, but I do not want him to keep the article an unreadable POV mess through sheer force of bullying. I've had more than enough of that sort of behaviour from him, and in this case, where Wikibooks exists as a perfectly good repository for his thoughts I don't think he has any right to insist.
*[http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/ Official website of the Colorado Avalanche]
*[http://www.avalanchedb.com/index.htm Largest Colorado Avalanche Database]
 
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Can you please do me a favour and watch the HMoD page for the re-insertion of the analysis? I will do the same but don't want to break 3RR. Cheers, [[User:Vizjim|Vizjim]] 09:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
{{succession box | before = [[New Jersey Devils]] | title = [[Stanley Cup]] Champions | years = [[1995-96 NHL season|1995-96]] | after = [[Detroit Red Wings]]}}
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{{Colorado Avalanche}}
: Oh, wonderful, not again. I'll keep an eye out; thanks for the heads-up. [[User:Zetawoof|Zetawoof]]<sup>([[User_talk:Zetawoof|&zeta;]])</sup> 10:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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{{Colorado Sports}}
 
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==Deletion==
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[[be-x-old:Каларада Эвеланш]]
You said that striking other people posts is vandalism, yet you ''deleted '''how many''''' of my comments? The pot can't call the kettle black. 19:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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