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| show_name = Mister Rogers' Neighborhood
| image = [[Image:Bwsweep.jpg|240px]]
| caption = '''Mister Rogers and a model of the Neighborhood'''
| format = [[Children's television series]]
| runtime = 30 minutes (No Commercials)
| creator = [[Fred Rogers]]
| starring = Fred Rogers
| country = {{USA}}
| network = [[National Educational Television|NET]] (1968–1970), [[PBS]] (1970-2001)
| first_aired = [[February 19]], [[1968 in television|1968]]
| last_aired = [[September 20]], [[1976 in television|1976]]<br />[[August 20]], [[1979 in television|1979]]&ndash;[[August 31]], [[2001 in television|2001]]
| num_episodes = 998
| imdb_id = 0062588
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'''''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood''''' or '''''Mister Rogers''''' was an [[United States|American]] [[children's television series]] that was created and hosted by [[Fred Rogers]]. ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'' was produced by [[Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania|Pittsburgh]], [[Pennsylvania]] public broadcaster [[WQED (TV)|WQED]] and Rogers' non-profit production company [[Family Communications, Inc.]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.salon.com/people/bc/1999/08/10/rogers/ |title=Brilliant Careers: Fred Rogers |accessdate=2007-05-31 |last=Millman |first=Joyce |date=1999-08-10 |work=Salon }}</ref> (named Small World Enterprises prior to 1971). It is the longest running series on [[PBS]], while [[Sesame Street]] began a year and a half later.
==Production==
Do we really have to have the last line of 'Devil's Hands' quoted? The last time I visited this page, I hadn't seen it, and if the quote had been in then I'd have been pretty annoyed to have the ending 'spoiled' in a small way. I've since seen it, but I'm not sure the quote is strictly necessary or relevant to this bit. Some people who haven't seen all the episodes will surely be visiting.
:I think the line fits well with the context and doesn't give away very much about the last episode. After all, how easy is it to infer the rest of "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings" from that one sentence? (It's rather like when my friend Ian told me the last line of the ''Simpsons'' Halloween episode "Homer<sup>3</sup>" was "Mmm, erotic cakes." I didn't have a clue in Robot Hell what the episode would be about.) [[User:Anville|Anville]] 14:17, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
==History of the show==
The series began in [[1962]] as ''MisteRogers'', a 15-minute program on the [[Canadian Broadcasting Corporation]]. [[Ernie Coombs]], a.k.a. [[Mr. Dressup|Mister Dressup]], got his start as a puppeteer on ''Mister Rogers''.
 
The first broadcast of ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'' was on the [[National Educational Television]] network on February 19, 1968. When NET ceased broadcasting in 1970, the series moved to PBS. The first series of episodes were produced and aired from 1968 to 1976. The second series of episodes were produced and aired from 1979 to 2001 (modern series).
==Inventions==
"showcases numerous technological advantages that have been developed by the year 3000." - followed not by technological advantages but bizare inventions developed by the Professor that never see the light of day. Can't think of a good edit to clarify this. --[[User:Damieng|DamienG]] 21:12, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'' was characterized by its quiet simplicity and gentleness. Episodes usually eschewed a defined plot, and instead consisted of Rogers speaking directly to children about various issues, taking them on tours of factories, demonstrating experiments and crafts, and interacting with his friends. The half-hour episodes were punctuated by a puppet segment chronicling occurrences in the [[Neighborhood of Make-Believe]].
==anti-MP3 slant==
More attention need to be given to the horribly undisguised anti-MP3 message from "I Dated a Robot". How can Groening claim to be different from Family Guy when he's just as loud a mouthpiece for some half-assed, questionable "cause"?
 
At the beginning of each episode, Fred Rogers enters his television studio house, singing "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" He hangs his coat in a closet and puts on a [[cardigan (sweater)|cardigan]] sweater and removes his dress shoes to put on [[sneakers]]. One of Rogers' sweaters now hangs in the [[Smithsonian Institution]], a testament to the cultural influence of his simple daily ritual.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://go.si.edu/ct/Ud1111119PDS/Mr_Rogers |title=NMAH - Mister Rogers' Sweater |accessdate=2007-05-31 |publisher=National Museum of American History |archiveurl=http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:TPSmMhdpwH8J:go.si.edu/ct/Ud1111119PDS/Mr_Rogers+%22Mr.+Rogers%22+site:si.edu&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=14&gl=us&client=firefox-a |archivedate=2007-05-27 |quote=The red sweater, knitted by his late mother, was donated to the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History by Fred Rogers on Nov. 20, 1984.}}</ref>
==Celebrity voice actors==
 
Starting in 1979, episodes were grouped into week-long series, with each series focused on a particular topic. Rogers' monologues throughout the week explore various facets of the topic, and the ongoing story from the Neighborhood of Make-Believe serves as illustration.
Stephen Hawking? How do you know it wasn't just someone with a SimpleText program and a speaker? Was he actually listed in the credits? Did he actually take the time out of his busy schedule as a physics theorist to go to a studio and degradingly record the voice out of ''his'' speakerbox for the novelty value? [[User:DryGrain|DryGrain]] 13:51, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
Rogers covered a broad range of topics over the years, and the series did not gloss over issues that other children's programming avoided. For example, the series dealt with competition, divorce, death, and war. Rogers returned to the topic of anger regularly and focused on peaceful ways of dealing with angry feelings.
:Yes, it was him ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0370071/ Stephen Hawking's IMDb page]). [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 14:06, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
Mister Rogers always made a clear distinction between the realistic world of his television neighborhood and the fantasy world of Make-Believe. He often discussed what was going to happen in Make-Believe before the next fantasy segment was shown ("Let's pretend that Prince Tuesday has been having scary dreams..."), and sometimes acted out bits of Make-Believe with models on a table before the camera transitioned to the live-action puppet rendition. The miniature motorized [[tram|trolley]], with its accompanying piano theme music, was the only element that appeared regularly in both the realistic world and Make-Believe: it was used to transport viewers from one realm to the other. Rogers, however, was mentioned from time to time in Make-Believe, particularly by Mr. McFeeley, who appeared occasionally in the Make-Believe segments and seemed to form a link between the two worlds.
: What exactly is so degrading about it? He has stated before that he identifies with that voice as ''his''. Quite frankly, it humanizes him to know that he's willing to make fun of himself by playing a murderous credit-stealing jackass.
 
This reality/fantasy distinction put Rogers' series in sharp contrast with other children's series, such as fellow PBS program ''[[Sesame Street]]'', which freely mixed realistic and fantastic elements.
: And if you think Hawking is busy, [[Al Gore]] appeared in the same episode while being Vice President of the US and planning his presidential run. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998]] 17:06, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
The series was also notable for its use of [[jazz]]-inspired music, mostly arranged and performed by Rogers' long-time friend [[Johnny Costa]], until Costa's death in [[1996]], when he was succeeded by Michael Moricz for the remainder of the series. The music was unique in its simplicity and flow that blended with the series' sketches and features. The music was usually played live during taping. Lyrics and melodies were written and sung by Rogers&mdash;in total, he created more than 200 original songs. The final episode of the series aired on [[August 31]], [[2001]]. This occurred on the same day [[Wishbone (TV Series)]] was airing its farewell.
::Hawking is also the only person to play himself (or rather a hologram of himself) in a Star Trek episode. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 18:50, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
When Fred Rogers died in [[2003]], PBS' website communicated some ways to make children not be scared about Mr. Rogers' passing away; it presented suggestions to parents on what to say to them about Mr. Rogers and how to approach a child who asks about him.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://pbskids.org/rogers/parentsteachers/special/feb27.html |title=If Your Child Asks about Fred Rogers' Death |accessdate=2007-05-31 |author=Family Communications, Inc. |date=2003-02-27 }}</ref>
:::Plus he was on ''The Simpsons'', where he was introduced as "The World's Smartest Man!" --[[User:Arteitle|Arteitle]] 22:32, Apr 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Broadcast history==
And was misidentified by Homer as Larry Flynt, parapalegic publisher of Hustler.
[[Image:Net.JPG|left|thumb|150px|The [[National Educational Television|NET]] logo, from the opening sequence of ''MisteRogers'' (1969-1970).]]
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The first broadcast of ''MisteRogers' Neighborhood'' was on the [[National Educational Television]] network on February 19, 1968; the color NET logo appeared on a model building at the beginning and end of ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'' from [[1969]] to [[1970]]. When NET ceased broadcasting, the series moved to PBS. (The former NET model house was "remodeled", first to a small yellow orange sided house, and then into a red apartment building. The roof's lopsided slant from its days as a NET logo remained.) The series changed to its 3-worded name, ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'', in 1970.
 
The final week of original episodes of the "first series", first broadcast on February 16-20, 1976, featured Mister Rogers in his workshop, watching scenes of past episodes of his series, which he recorded on videocassettes and kept on the shelf in his workshop. On the Friday episode of that week, he reminded viewers that they, too, can watch many of those old episodes beginning the following week.
Wasnt it *fouth* and last season? They were broadcast as 5 seasons, but made as four.
 
As of [[August 11]], [[1995]], all of the episodes of the first half are no longer shown on television, since there is already an ample supply of the second series in circulation, and since many of the episodes of the first series have become outdated. Most episodes from the first half exist in the [[Museum of Television & Radio]], including the first episode of the series and the first color episode.
:Why don't you do some research, and update the article accourdingly? [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 00:52 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
===Reruns===
:All 72 episodes were originally created in 4 production runs called 1ACV to 4ACV. They were aired in five season, this current season being the 5th season. The announcement that they were going to stop production of Futurama came in the 3rd season (2001). I guess we should update the article to refelct this. Tonights episode was S05E09 or 4ACV12 [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 01:05 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)
When PBS began rerunning the first 460 color episodes of the series in 1976, some of the early color episodes from 1969 and 1970 were re-edited with new voice-overs or footage. For example, in one 1969 episode where Mister Rogers demonstrates the noise-proof ear protectors that airport workers use on the tarmac, the film footage used featured a worker directing a [[United Airlines]] jet with its stylised "U" logo&mdash;which wasn't introduced until 1974. All of the episodes revised from the first series also included an extra segment following the closing credits, mentioning the episode number and additional companies that provided funding since these episodes originally aired, even though they had not provided funding at the time of original production.
 
Almost all of the 1979-2001 episodes are in active rotation on [[PBS]]. The only exception is the week-long "Conflict" series (episodes #1521&ndash;#1525, first aired in November of 1983), which covered the topics of war, bombs, and an arms race.
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The "Conflict" series was last aired April 1-5 1996, due to the bombing in Oklahoma City in 1995. In that week of episodes, Corny's factory was making oddly-shaped parts for a project in Southwood. The king originally determined that they were parts for a bomb, so he ordered Corny to make extra "bomb" parts for the Neighborhood of Make Believe. Furthermore, King Friday had most of the human characters of the Neighborhood of Make Believe trained as generals, but forgot to train regular soldiers. In the end, they found out that the parts were for a bridge that the Southwooders were building and the Neighborhood was able to use the parts King Friday had bought to make record players. At the end of the Friday episode, instead of Mister Rogers singing the ''Good Feeling'' song, he sang a lullaby, ''Peace and Quiet'', wishing his television friends "peace". This was followed by an on-screen display of Isaiah 2:4:
" and horribly inefficient "transport tubes." "
 
: "And they shall beat their swords into plowshares,
As an avid Futurama watcher, I'm not sure this has been illustrated satisfactorily (with the exception of Fry's shenanigans) should this be removed?
: And their spears into pruning forks;
: Nation shall not lift up sword against nation,
: Neither shall they learn war any more."
 
===Funding===
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From 1968 to 1976, the sponsor credits were part of the series credits; the ones used in the opening are silent other than the theme, and an announcer or Fred Rogers reads the sponsor credits aloud during the closing credits. From 1976 onward, repeats of episodes from 1969 to 1974 have additional closing sponsor credits over a still of the trolley with the series logo and episode number. From 1979 onward, the sponsor credits were in a separate segment at the start and end of each episode, announced by Fred Rogers. Only the sponsors' names were shown on screen.
 
Credited sponsors include:
Perhaps, althought it's only mentioned in the briefest passing. I too agree that it is unfair to call the tubes inefficient, we've only seen them in action in a handful of shows. They're hardly part of the series. [[User:Cogibyte|Cogibyte]] 04:17, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable"
 
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! Sponsor !! Years
: There was an episode where the mayor opens a new tube line because of the congestion, however generally they work fine [[User:Paul Weaver|Paul Weaver]]
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| [[Sears, Roebuck and Company|Sears-Roebuck Foundation]]
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| 1968&ndash;1976, 1979&ndash;1993
 
|-
About the speculation section... I put that in because I saw a connection, and nobody has taken it down yet. I haven't seen it documented anywhere else, so I'd like some feedback on the possibility. Anybody agree? [[User:Cogibyte|Cogibyte]] 01:51, 10 Dec 2003 (UTC)
| [[National Educational Television|NET-affiliated stations]]
 
| 1968&ndash;1970
I like your theory but I don't think it's actually very acurate.
|-
*''the pessimistic, depressed, super-intelligent robot Marvin the Paranoid Android is similar to the pessimistic, suicide-prone (in the first episode), hard-drinking robot Bender''
| [[Corporation for Public Broadcasting]]
**Marvin is well known for his intelligence while Bender is not. Bender is lazy, greedy and a cleptomaniac, not of that applies to Marvin who always does as ordered by humans despite complaining about it. Appart from both beeing suicidal robots I don't think they've got anything in common.
| 1971&ndash;1976, 1992&ndash;2001
*''The cheerful, attractive, intelligent Trillian parallels the good-natured, attractive, competent Leela.''
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**I wouldn't describle either of them as especially cheerful or attractive.
| [[Johnson & Johnson]]
*''Fry, the displaced, somewhat bumbling liability and last surviving 20th centurian closely resembles Arthur Dent, the displaced, confused, liability and last surviving 20th centurian, and earthling.''
| 1975&ndash;1976
**Arthur Dent isn't the last surving human beeing because Trillian is also human (and therefore not the last surving "20th centurian"), also all the non human characters could be described as "20th centurians". I don't really see why beeing one of only two humans left alive is in any way similar to beeing the last "20th centurian". Also Fry and Dent aren't really similar at all. Dent is an average human who finds the alien culture very strange, while Fry also finds the 31st century very strange he is also of below average intelligence.
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*''The strongest connection are the mutually cocky, showish, shortsighted, womanizing, ships Captians Zapp Brannigan in Futurama and Zaphod Beeblebrox in HGG. Even the names are similar (ZB).''
| [[Ford Foundation]]
**There are some similarities there I admit but I think its probably coincidence.
| 1975&ndash;1976
*''Professor Farnsworth once declared himself dead as a tax dodge. Hotblack Desiato, a rock singer did the exact same thing in HHGG.''
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**I don't rember Farnsworth declaring himself dead. Was he really dead or just pretending? If he was just pretending then its not really like Hotblack Desiato at all.
| [[PBS|Public Television Stations]]
*''The writing style is not a wide departure either; both series use a sharply ironic and character based humor.''
| 1971&ndash;1976, 1979&ndash;2001
**You could say that about most sitcoms so it's hardly much of a connection. I don't really think they're much like each other at all really apart from both beeing comedy science fiction. [[User:Saulisagenius|Saul Taylor]] 08:14, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)
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Professor Farnsworth did not declare himself dead as a tax dodge. Hermes's son incorrectly believed that the Professor had done so, but the Professor himself denied it, complaining that he once took a nap in a ditch in the park, and "they" declared him dead for no good reason (yet another example of the "throwaway" lines). [[User:Publius|Publius]] 19:02, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 
::Does any one think the "speculation" section should stay? It seems completely un-encyclopedic to me, at best debatable and at worst completely unfounded. [[User:Saulisagenius|Saul Taylor]] 05:32, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 
:::Just wanted to belatedly address the (long-since deleted) statement that Fry was the "last surviving 20th centurian" by pointing out a few other 20th century defrostees we've seen in the 31st century. Off the top of my head: Fry's ex-girlfriend, Pauly Shore, and "That Guy" (though he's no longer "surviving", having succumbed to his boneitis). --[[User:Arteitle|Arteitle]] 04:35, Mar 12, 2004 (UTC)
 
I added short bits explaining what consoles the game was available on, and about the spin-off Bongo Comics series too. Considering the comic books the only form Futurama is still continuing in, I thought it was worth the mention. Perhaps it is worth breaking the bits about the game/comics off into a 'Merchandising' or 'Spin-offs' section, for neatness and clarity, as they now fall under 'Production', but are nothing to do with the animated series' production. Any opinions on that idea? (WikiSimon, 19 March 2004)
 
: I broke the parts about non-broadcast media into their own section, without having read this first. =) It could probably use a retitle. "Non-broadcast media" is sounding decent right now.
 
: Having 'Spin-offs' and 'Merchandising' sections (you'd need both) isn't justified with the current text volume in the section. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 23:34, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Speculation section deleted==
since nobody has argued for keeping the "speculation" section since I asked whether it should be deleted or not, I have now removed it from the page.[[User:Saulisagenius|Saul Taylor]] 15:58, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 
If anyone thinks it should be put back then heres the full text:
 
::''It seems possible that some of the characters and settings found in Futurama episodes are loosely based on [[Douglas Adams]]' books and radio series [[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy]]. For example, the pessimistic, depressed, super-intelligent robot [[Marvin the Paranoid Android]] is similar to the pessimistic, suicide-prone (in the first episode), hard-drinking robot [[Bender Bending Rodriguez|Bender]]. The cheerful, attractive, intelligent [[Minor characters from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy#Trillian|Trillian]] parallels the good-natured, attractive, competent [[Turanga Leela|Leela]]. [[Philip J. Fry|Fry]], the displaced, somewhat bumbling liability and last surviving 20th centurian closely resembles [[Arthur Dent]], the displaced, confused, liability and last surviving 20th centurian, and earthling. The strongest connection are the mutually cocky, showish, shortsighted, womanizing, ship captains of [[Zapp Brannigan]] in Futurama and [[Zaphod Beeblebrox]] in ''Hitchhiker's Guide''. Even the names are similar (ZB).''
 
::''Professor Farnsworth once declared himself dead as a [[tax]] dodge. In ''Hitchhiker's Guide'', a rock singer named [[Minor characters from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy#Hotblack Desiato|Hotblack Desiato]] did exactly the same thing.''
 
::''The writing style is not a wide departure either; both series use a sharply ironic and character based humor. Futurama however, being only produced for television, is more mass consumable; its jokes are less involved or as serious.''
 
:The article on [[Zapp Brannigan]] reproduced the speculation linking him with Zaphod Beeblebrox. Following the discussion on this page, I nixed it there. (After all, Brannigan obtained his captaincy by working up a&mdash;presumably incompetent&mdash;chain of command, whilst Beeblebrox got the ''Heart of Gold'' by stealing it.) [[User:Anville|Anville]] 14:21, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
::Of course, Beeblebrox got on the Heart of Gold by being the figurehead president of the galaxy. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 18:16, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
== Episode summaries ==
 
Is there any demand for more episode summaries like [[Futurama (animated series) season 1]]? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 20:17, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 
: Hmm, most of those summaries look like they've been lifted straight out of TV Guide or something. "Fry discovers the nuts and bolts of living with a robot." I don't even know if this stuff is copyvio or not... Original summaries would be good though- we have them for plenty of other shows. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 21:13, Mar 11, 2004 (UTC)
 
:: The summaries on the [[Futurama (animated series) season 1|season 1]] page ''are'' copyvio, and are first on the hitlist. The existing [[Futurama (animated series) season 2|season 2]] summaries look to be in the clear, but might get rewritten anyway just in case. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 01:06, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 
::: I've rewritten the Season 1 summaries, but they're definitely works in progress. They're overly detailed, and need a lot trimming. I included a few quotes for each episode that I think provide good characterization, add to the setting, or provide social commentary, but [[YMMV]]. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 08:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 
== Broken Images? ==
 
Neither image is working for me. The image page says they were uploaded on [[January 27]], [[2004]], during the "January Gap", and the web server is reporting a 404 on the actual image url [http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/b/b6/Futurama1.jpg]. I doubt the uploader [[User:Maveric149|Maveric149]] still has them. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] 23:17, Mar 19, 2004 (UTC)
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==Links for unneeded articles==
 
I rolled back; those links weren't all useless by any stretch. If people don't want them, don't click on them. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 04:32, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
: Many of those links will not be used for anything. For instance, the Space Pope: the character only shows up for a few seconds in the series, with hardly any information as to what he is at all. There's no need for such excessive linking, and there isn't a need for several articles on every little detail of the series. And even for the ones that exist, there isn't a need for links to every single word. -- [[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]]
 
:: I agree wih this and the Space Pope is the perfect example. All we know about the Space Pope is that he ''is'' reptilian. There's nothing there to make an article out of. Likewise, Soylent Cola and the Finglonger are never going to have enough information for a real article. Links need to be kept relevant, and links to [[intern]], [[bureaucrat]], and [[business]] aren't. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] | [[User talk:Cyrius|Talk]] 22:15, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)
 
:: I am in agreement. I've never cared for a link to every single show, especially when those pages aren't written. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and a detailed article for each episode of one of many television series doesn't seem to belong. Listing the episodes and a brief summary, fine. But there are resources on the web that deal with the series more thoroughly, and this page links to them. Furthermore, whereas items such as the Space Pope 'may' need 'some' explanation, I agree with the parent; that it doesn't justify an entire article. Wikifying every proper noun is not responsible editing. --[[User:Cogibyte|Cogibyte]] 03:01, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 
An article on the Space Pope was recently made, despite this debate. Maybe we should have that one deleted, as well as any other unneeded articles created recently that could simply have their contents put in this article? -- [[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]] 23:36, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 
:Maybe merge them into some sort of secondary one-shot background characters article. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 23:40, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 
We still have a bunch of stub articles being made for both major and minor characters from this series. Could we please just make one [[Characters of Futurama]] article and merge all those into it? There's no need for all these gratuitous stubs. There are also other unneeded articles being made that can be found in the Futurama category that should be either merged into this article or given a single article for themselves. Having so many of these for every tiny aspect of the series is just ridiculous. -- [[User:LGagnon|[[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]]]] 04:45, Aug 23, 2004 (UTC)
: This idea is doubleplusgood... Fandom seems to be running rampant for a number of series' and we're practically tripping ofer stubs. Suggest merging into one page, and leaving redirects at each character name article to the single page (my idea would be [[Futurama (TV series - characters)]]. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] 05:00, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
:: The articles for the major characters are fairly large and well-established. Creating a combined page for all the minor characters would probably help things though. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 17:53, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
The amount of arbitrary Futurama articles has only continued to grow out of control. I suggest someone starts merging all the minor character articles into one article, and then merge all of the other minor detail articles into articles for such things. The current state of it all is just rediculous, and needs to be fixed immediately. -- [[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]] 18:37, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
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== Quotes to Wikiquote? ==
Maybe we should move the recently added quotes to the Wikiquote page for Futurama (there's a link in the article's External links section to it). -- [[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]]
 
* If you want to do the work, I won't complain. It'll need some restructuring to handle the short conversation quotes though. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998]] 04:06, Apr 26, 2004 (UTC)
 
==When was this set?==
 
According to this article, ''Futurama'' is set in the year 3000. According to [[30th century]], most of ''Futurama'' is set in the [[31st century]].
 
:The portions of Futurama that aren't set in the "present" begin on December 31, 2999, with the defrosting of Philip J. Fry after almost exactly 1000 years of cryogenic suspension. The four production seasons of Futurama correspond roughly to years within the Futurama universe. The second season episode "Xmas Story" is explicitly set on December 24, 3000, leaving most of the show's run to take place after new year's day, 3001.
 
:So Futurama is ''initially'' set in the year 3000, but most of the show's episodes are set in the 31st century. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 02:05, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
:The article as it stands is misleading. My suggestion: '''Set in "New New York City" during the present ([[January 1]], [[2000]]) and over four years beginning on [[December 31]], [[30th century|2999]], ...''' [[User:Brianjd|Brianjd]] 05:53, 2004 Dec 1 (UTC)
 
That's stupid. The term "31st century" conjurs up no details of _exactly_ when it was set, and so should be taken as a rough estimate of at least about 1000 years from now. Anything more would be pedantic.
 
== Mike Levey Parody ==
 
Was there a parody of Mike Levey on Futurama? --[[User:66.215.219.188|66.215.219.188]] 08:41, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 
:You've asked minor variations on this question in three different places. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 13:49, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 
== Minor Characters page ==
 
L33tminion said "Split off minor characters to seperate article in response to objection" in a recent edit, what was this objection, moving the recurring characters to another page seems unnecessary to me and I would like to change it back. I do think it could use a bit of cropping though (mainly LaBarbara Conrad and Father Changstein-El-Gamal) - [[User:Diceman|Diceman]] 12:35, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
:This article is a [[featured article candidate]] (see above). I objected to the inclusion of a long list of characters in this article because it doesn't need one here. There are only six or seven main characters in the series; all the rest are supporting characters. In fact, I objected to this article becoming a feature article because it needs significant work; almost ''all'' of it is made up of lists. --[[User:B Touch|b. Touch]] 21:24, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
== Featured Candidacy ==
 
When I saw this article, I thought it seemed like an overlooked featured candidate, but after the [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Futurama (TV series)|constructive criticism]] it has received, it is clearly not at that level yet. Still, this is an excellent article, and I would like to congratulate the people who worked on it immensely. I'm going to refer this to peer review, and do some more work on editing the article. I think that this article will definitely be able to meet the featured standard. --[[User:L33tminion|L33tminion]] <small>|</small> [[User talk:L33tminion|(talk)]] 16:56, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
 
 
Things that need to be done:
* Add references (including in-article references)
* Make more prose-like (but I love the lists of trivia... perhaps some of those should branch off into seperate articles?)
* Make introduction more robust
* Add more screen captures (that's already been improved quite a bit)
* The info on syndication in the intro might be incorrect, that needs to be clarified ("Appearing on Cartoon Network does not mean it's in syndication (it just means its being re-run), and doesn't it come on the other Turner networks as well?", "If a show is being broadcast on a major network at a fixed time, regaurdless of country (for example, on Teletoon in Canada), that is not syndication; it's just being re-run.")
--[[User:L33tminion|L33tminion]] <small>|</small> [[User talk:L33tminion|(talk)]] 16:09, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)
 
:As far as references go, would it be sufficient to list the Futurama series as the reference. Or should we be adding footnotes to facts on an episode by episode basis? I would think the series is sufficient instead of episode numbers the same way a book title is sufficient instead of page numbers.--[[User:Will2k|Will2k]] 14:23, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)
 
::For material derived from the show itself&mdash;character info, plot references, and so forth&mdash;I think listing the series is enough. In some cases, it may be necessary to do more: for example, when one episode contradicts another. (Remember, this is an encyclopedia article, not a fansite.) However, for this article to become an FA, we need to establish why the subject is relevant. This requires outside information about the show's production history, its critical reception, awards won and beratings suffered, references seen elsewhere, and all that.
::[[User:Anville|Anville]] 16:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 
== Futurama: TV series > Fair exhibit ==
 
Concerning whether [[Futurama]] should direct to the TV series article, not the fair exhibit, see [[Talk:Futurama#TV series > Fair exhibit]].
 
==Amy Wong==
Does anybody know if Amy speaks Cantonese? Beacuse in the episode "Amazon Women in the Hood", when Amy is bending Bender's arm, she mumbled something in "Chinese". However, the Caption said it was Cantonese. So I'm quite confused here.
 
For people that know the answer, would you please reply?
:[[Cantonese (linguistics)|Cantonese]] is a dialect of Chinese.--[[User:Will2k|Will2k]] 13:37, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
 
== CANCELLATION ==
 
Someone should add a section discussing the show's cancellation... [[User:Themindset|Themindset]] 05:56, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
 
:The "Production" section has quite a bit on the cancellation. Did you want more? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 22:37, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
::I think it would be interesting if someone mentioned ''why'' the series was cancelled. Did it have low ratings? -- [[User:Andrew Parodi|Andrew Parodi]] 09:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 
:::As I understand it, its cancellation had more to do with expense than popularity. Futurama had excellent, high-quality animation that often included artfully-done CG and sprawling backgrounds. You could order a whole season of something with low-grade, assembly-line animation like, say, Family Guy, for the cost of one or two episodes of Futurama. -[[User:RannXXV|RannXXV]] 19:13, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 
:::: Then again, there is the fact that this is Fox who cancelled the show. I know it is a bit old, but it does seem a common gripe by many people that Fox cancels shows prematurely as can be seen in Family Guy's return and the recent talk about a potential Futurama re-birth. -[[User:Thebdj|Thebdj]] 20:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
 
== Clothing ==
 
Is there any information on the rings that are on the shoulders of most people's suit jackets?
 
they are there to make the clothing look futuristic, I assume.......
 
*Nobody wears rings. Rings are stupid.
 
::To the person who found the above comment offensive its actually a quote from the show regarding 'raver' rings [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 16:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
:::I removed their comment because I found '''that''' offensive. (February 3, 2006)
 
== Linguistics section ==
 
I found a problem in the linguistics section about ask-aks, the reason ask in the future is aks is because the incorrect slang/ebonics changes ask to aks, and in the future this is accepted as the norm. " In certain cases, transposition of adjacent consonants, particularly when the first is [s]. For instance "ask" realized "aks""--wikipedia-ebonics...And i hear aks first hand. Does anyone else agree? ---[[user:citanul|citanul]]
I have a few problems with the linguistics section:
* "The sound duh, used to express exasperation, has been joined by the sounds guh, buh, spluh and other similar sounds." and "obviously has been replaced with globviously" - I don't believe these are actual linguistic changes, just Amy's way of speaking, or popular slang at best. This would be like a article about today stating that "the word 'jewelry' has been replaced by 'bling'".
* "The lyrics to 'Happy Birthday' and 'Santa Claus is Coming to Town' have been replaced with modern counterparts." - I don't remember the "Happy Birthday" change off the top of my head, but "Santa Claus is Coming to Town" had the tune changed (most likely for copyright reasons), so it's technically not the same song, and the lyrics were changed for humor (not to mention that using the real lyrics would be infringement also), not to indicate that the popular song had undergone revisions. Perhaps the bigger issue here anyways is these lyric changes are not really linguistic changes in the first place, and would not fall under this category anyways.
* "Smizmar means 'life partner'" - This is a borrowed word from an alien language, and I don't believe that the average human would refer to his wife as his "smizmar". It would only be used to refer to persons of Kiff's species, or similar species.
Any thoughts? --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 19:45, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I agree with the first and third point -- I just thought the same thing while reading the article. "Happy Birthday" has been replaced by a song with new lyrics and a somewhat different tune. Of course, the article is itself clogged with excess trivia and logical leaps -- it really needs a cleanup. --[[User:24.21.96.58|24.21.96.58]] 13:44, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:All very good points. This article needs a clean up as people seem to keep wanting to add too much random trivia to it. Should we split off a seperate trivia page for all the surplus that people keep adding? --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 00:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::The first thing this article needs is massive pruning. For example, the bulleted list under the "Setting" section is a) a list, which Wikipedia is not, and (IMO) b) not important enough to be included anyways. I don't think it should be split off into a separate page either, for reason b). The next step would be to add more "real-life" information about the show, such as the content in the "Production" and "Non-broadcast production" sections. These would also be the sections to include more references. Is anyone interested in trying to bring this article up to Featured Article standards? --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 03:12, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 
== Article Cleanup ==
 
Alright, I took my own advice and started pruning. I've started moving things under the appropriate heading (Richard Nixon -> Politics) and deleted some things that were mentioned more than once (Richard Nixon again). I split off doop and parallel universes into their own sections. Actually, I was somewhat tempted to delete the parallel universes part - I'm not sure it's important enough for this article - but I've been bold enough for today. I also moved the pictures around to try to make the page look a little better. Other thoughts for this article that I thought I'd try to get a consensus of on first:
*<s>Delete the list of political third parties.</s> '''done'''
*<s>Delete (or merge elsewhere) the "Parallel universes" section - I feel that this section is distracting right now, the information is not as integral to the show as other sections.</s> '''done'''
*<s>Find a way to move the "Characters" section higher - Introducing the reader to this information earlier on will make reading the rest of the article easier, as the other sections reference characters.</s> '''done'''
*<s>Find a way to move the "Production" section higher - As I mentioned above, I think this article needs to focus more on "real-life" information, such as the Production section.</s> '''rejected'''
*Does anyone else find it weird that the words "[[Rough Draft Studios]]" are nowhere found in this article?
As always, I welcome your feedback. I'm going on vacation for the weekend, I'll get started with more cleaning when I get back if there aren't objections. --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 20:04, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
:good work, and excellent things to keep working on. --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 02:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:I'd like to help. Frankly, I think most of the trivia needs to be cut out. It's not encyclopedic, and it's well-covered by other websites. It seems that older versions of this article had even more lists, but they were "cleaned up" by putting them into prose.
:I think the standard here should be to read each paragraph like you'd never seen the show before. Does it make sense? I feel that most of the inline, unexplained trivia on this and other Futurama-related pages (like [[Bender Bending Rodriguez]]) would be massively confusing to anyone who wasn't familar with the series. Thoughts? --[[User:Djur|Djur]] 05:42, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:: I haven't receive any objections, so I removed the third party list and the parallel universe section. I also did a little editing to the politics section while I was in there. I'm undecided about the order of the sections. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to a couple of well-written articles about TV shows that are fairly lengthy to see how it's been handled elsewhere. --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 02:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::: Some other articles to look at are are [[Family Guy]] and [[The Simpsons]] (good because of the similarities to Futurama), and the following featured articles on TV shows: [[Blackadder]], [[Coronation Street]], [[Dawson's Creek]] and [[Doctor Who]]. [[Felix_the_Cat]] and [[Our Gang]] are also worth looking at. Hope that this helps. --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 05:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::::I moved the Characters and Planet Express sections to the top and made them subsections of the new Characters and plot section, as the [[Family Guy]] and [[The Simpsons]] articles have the characters and plot up top. I edited the Planet Express section some (shortened names, etc.) since it's right below the character section. Seeing as how each character has his/her own page, I think the next thing to do is rework that section as prose instead of a list, possibly leaving some of the trivia for the character pages, merging the Char and Plan Ex sections in the process. I've changed my mind about moving the Production section, Setting needs to come before it. --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 14:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:::: I nixed the "Trivia" section, which consisted of two bullet points:
:::::==Trivia==
 
:::::*[[Philip J. Fry|Fry]], [[Turanga Leela|Leela]], [[Bender Bending Rodriguez|Bender]], [[Professor Hubert Farnsworth|the Professor]] and [[Richard Nixon]] are the only characters to appear in both the first and the last episodes of the series.
:::::*[[Philip J. Fry|Fry]], [[Turanga Leela|Leela]] and [[Bender Bending Rodriguez|Bender]] are the only characters to appear in every episode of the series. In second place are [[Professor Hubert Farnsworth|the Professor]] and [[Doctor Zoidberg]] who both appear in 70 of the 72 episodes.
 
:::: It's not very illuminating and not at all necessary&mdash;the only part of it which might spruce up the article is the trivium about Richard Nixon, which could easily be merged elsewhere. [[User:Anville|Anville]] 17:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 
== Futurama Direct-to-Video Greenlit ==
 
Did anyone read this article yet: [http://dvd.ign.com/articles/634/634262p1.html ''IGN DVD Exclusive - Futurama Direct-to-Video Greenlit'']? Perhaps, after the direct-to-video movie, this means the show could return like [[Family Guy]]!!! -[[User:Hyad|Hyad]] 02:34, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 
== Episode Articles ==
 
Since [[M*A*S*H (TV series)|M*A*S*H]] has over 1,000 articles about each and every episode, I thought this could do with some. Comments? -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 23:01, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 
:I have no opinions about whether it is a good idea or not. But if it is done, they should be made by chopping up the episode guides rather than starting from scratch. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 23:09, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
::Oh, no doubt about that, but we need...
 
*The Writer
*The Director
*Episode #
*Air Date
*References (as in, like, pop culture, movies, etc.)
*Trivia
 
Etc. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 23:44, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
 
:It looks like you can find most of that information [http://www.tv.com/futurama/show/249/episode_guide.html here]. [[User:Variable|siafu]] 23:49, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
::Is that a 'no, I disagree with putting this information on Wikipedia since it's there already' or a 'here, use this to put it on Wikipedia'? -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:00, July 20, 2005 (UTC)`
:::It's a "you were looking for specific information so here's a source that has that information!" Personally I think that individual episode articles sounds like a lot of work that I'm not interested in doing, but if that's your thing, have at it. [[User:Variable|siafu]] 00:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:Please, no references and no trivia. That very quickly turns into a giant cesspool of speculative garbage. As far as writer, director, and air date, have you not seen [[Futurama (TV series - season 1)]] and its siblings at all? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 00:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
::I decided to test it out with the Pilot episode. Could I get help with that one, to see how well it is executed?
 
::Also, not particularly knowing much about the Season articles. Futurama is loaded with references, as well. Star Trek, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Mario, etc. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:23, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 
:I'm confused; what are you adding that's not in [[Futurama (TV series - season 1)]], as [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]] mentioned, and why would you add it to this article and not to the articles about the episodes? May I suggest that this be moved to [[Talk:Futurama (TV series - season 1)]]? --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 00:42, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
::It will be able to go more indepth on a brief summary and a couple lists. If each episode went indepth on the Season pages, it'd be huge. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:45, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 
What exactly have you tested out? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 00:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
:Nothing yet. But I'm gonna try it soon, tomorrow probably. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:56, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
 
== DOOP and [[Duplo]] logo ==
 
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Doop logo is a parody of the [[Lego]] [[Duplo]] logo. See below. Anyone agree? They look pretty similar. -[[User:Hyad|Hyad]] 23:26, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
{|
| [[Image:Doop logo.jpg|right|150px|]]
| [[Image:Duplo logo.gif|right|75px|]]
|}
 
The series does not use the "[[Viewers Like You]]" credit but adds "We thank you" at the end on the sponsor credits in episodes from 2000 and 2001, to partially comply with PBS regulations.
:They don't look terribly similar to me. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 02:42, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
:I think that they look very similar. The font is virtually identical. I guess that it could be mentioned in the doop article. --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 05:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::Pretty much any two sans-serif fonts rendered with a thick stroke in yellow will look fairly similar to these. The DOOP does not and should not have its own article, and even if it did, this is pure speculation. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 07:23, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:::I would like to merge the DOOP article into this article. --[[User:Pagrashtak|Pagrashtak]] 13:34, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::Even if the doop logo is a parody of duplo, I haven't seen this idea mentioned anywhere else, so to put it in the article might violate the [[Wikipedia:No original research|No original research]] rule&mdash;unless you know of an external source for this.
 
:: BTW I have a feeling this has been discussed before, but I notice that 'doop' has been uppercased throughout the article. Given that it is only ever written in lower case in the show, shouldn't we use lower case too? --[[User:Dudegalea|DudeGalea]] 08:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::: It's my assumption the DOOP logo is lower case so can be viewed from either way up (which would make sense in directionless space). On the DOOP website itself they use upper case letters (http://www.doop.org/), plus uppercase is the starndard convention for acronyms. - [[User:Diceman|Diceman]] 14:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::::That's a fan site, why are you treating it as canon? -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 16:44, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 
::::: I'll submit it as evidence in any case. - [[User:Diceman|Diceman]] 15:09, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 
 
:::::: You're all wrong! I figure that it was taken from the artwork of the single Doop by the artist Doop (a cheesy dance trank sampling Charleston-esque music( that was originally released in 1993. The font on the cover is identical!
 
You'll find an example of it here: http://www.lynpaulwebsite.org/Resources/Doop-Doop.jpg
 
== Space Wasp (first episode) vs. Space Bee ("The Sting" 5th episode) ==
 
In the dvd commentary, it was mentioned that they realized that the first episode mentions the space wasps, yet in "The Sting", it was Space Bees. I think they said it was changed because wasps don't produce honey. [[User:Calyth|Calyth]]
 
== New Season ==
 
There should be a new season of this show! [[User:RyanCahn|RyanCahn]]
 
:That's nice, Ryan. Just don't go pretending that what you want is true like you've tried elsewhere. -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 03:45, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
:: There are talks of a direct-to-DVD Futurama Movie. [http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/18/045228&tid=129&tid=97&tid=133 Slashdot article here.] [[User:Calyth|Calyth]] 15:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
: Why did they stopped it in the first place? Anyone knows why? --[[User:Antilived|<font color="#58738c">antilived</font>]] 06:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
:Well, first of all, Fox doesn't know how to deal with successful shows. Look what they did with [[Family Guy]]. They gave it a horrible time slot against Friends and Survivor, and then when ratings weren't what they wanted they canned it, even though over the next few years Adult Swim and DVD sales would prove it to have a near religous following. Then they bring the show back, but at a fraction of the quality of the original series because some of the writers were lost and the remaining staff knew that they had a hit show, which got to their head and stifled their creativity.
 
It's pretty much the same with Futurama, except Futurama isn't coming back. It would be on/off at 6pm CST, meaning it wasn't technically in prime time. One week it might be on, but the next week there would be a football game and you wouldn't be able to see it. Again, this caused ratings to slip and Fox assumed that the show wasn't very popular. Second, Futurama is expensive to produce because of all the special effects it needs.
 
It seems to me that if Fox knew what it was doing it would have let the Simpsons go gracefully years ago and kept Futurama and Family Guy, therefore avoiding many of the problems which we, the viewers, have with the network. [[User:Captain Jackson|Captain Jackson]] 03:28, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
 
== [[Futurama (TV series)]] -> [[Futurama]] ==
 
I suggest this page be moved to [[Futurama]], which is currently a redirect to the TV series anyway. The only other Futurama that currently has an article is [[Futurama (New York World's Fair)]], which is a much less common usage as far as I know. A disambig notice linking to the Fair exhibit is already at the top of the TV series article. --[[User:Poiuytman|Poiuyt Man]] [[User talk:Poiuytman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 21:09, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
*Sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Apyule|Apyule]] 03:37, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
::Done. <small>[[User:Jtkiefer|<font color="FF9900">Jtkiefer</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jtkiefer|<font color=#00A86B>T</font>]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Jtkiefer|<font color="FF0033">@</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jtkiefer|<font color="0000FF">C</font>]]</sup> </small> ----- 02:19, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
Help is requested dealing with any double redirects, I'm gonna try to work on them right now but I'm not sure if I can get them all. <small>[[User:Jtkiefer|<font color="FF9900">Jtkiefer</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jtkiefer|<font color=#00A86B>T</font>]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Jtkiefer|<font color="FF0033">@</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jtkiefer|<font color="0000FF">C</font>]]</sup> </small> ----- 02:22, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
 
== Episode Guides ==
 
This doesn't really fit into anywhere, so I'll say this here. I think that it would be best if we just split each episode into a different article and make one page that displays a list of all the ''Futurama'' episodes, with a link to the each of the main episode guide, with a one or two-line summary and a thumbnail image on that page, similar to the [[List_of_Family_Guy_episodes|Family Guy format]]. The current list/summary of each episode sorted by seasons seems to be very large in size. --[[User:FlyingPenguins|FlyingPenguins]] 04:13, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
 
==Reference to Life in Hell==
Since we're listing references between Futurama and Life in Hell, it may be worth noting that Groening's rabbit from Life in Hell show up in the peisode where Fry buys a pet.--[[User:68.40.173.159|68.40.173.159]] 03:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Need episode where Leela wipes Voyager 2 off her windshield ==
 
For the section [[Voyager_2#Voyager 2 in fiction and popular culture|Voyager 2 in fiction and popular culture]]. I remember that, but I have no clue what episode or season. Just edit the sentence there if you know. [[User:JamesHoadley|JamesHoadley]] 02:28, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
 
:Thankyou [[User:Rmbyoung]]. [[User:JamesHoadley|JamesHoadley]] 17:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
 
== Separate DVD article ==
 
Anyone object to me creating a new article about the DVDs a la [[The Simpsons DVDs]] and [[King of the Hill DVDs]]? - [[User:Wezzo|Wezzo]] 20:18, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
:Will go ahead with this later today then. - [[User:Wezzo|Wezzo]] 08:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 
== Articles For The Episodes? ==
 
Just a suggestion would creating an [[article]] for every episode would make the episode list look cleaner. It does with [[List of Family Guy episodes|Family Guy]] and [[List of American Dad episodes|American Dad]]! Thanks [[User:Empty2005|Empty2005]] 04:43, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 
 
== Bendar, Asimov, Prelude To Foundation ==
 
The first image of a robot seen by Hari Seldon is named "Bendar" and is mentioned in a video playing on a screen in the "Sacratorium" in "Mycogen" on "Trantor" in the book "Prelude To Foundation" by Isaac Asimov, founder of robotics(in the literary sense). I don't now if this bit of trivia is worthy of entry in the article or not, so I'm mentioning it here. Bendar lived on the planet of the origin of humanity and had a metal body. [[User:Drn8|Drn8]] 04:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 
:Well, only if you consider [[Aurora (planet)|Aurora]] to be the original planet of the human species (which the Mycogenians certainly do). [[User:Anville|Anville]] 11:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Tivo Quote ==
 
The actual tagline is "Hey, Tivo! Suggest this!" as seen on the screen capture at [[http://www.flickr.com/photos/nachop/19141128/in/set-450093/ flickr]]
 
== Expense ==
 
I heard that one reason Futurama was cancelled was because episodes were expensive to create, because of science fiction animation such as flying through space. Is this mentioned anywhere in the article? [[User:Captain Jackson|Captain Jackson]] 02:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
 
== Red Dwarf similarities ==
 
The Wikipedia article currently contains a section devoted to comparisons with ''[[Red Dwarf]]''. I'm not sure if the section is really worthy enough to stay there, so I won't add this link there, but I found the folloing article extremely interesting:
 
[http://www.ganymede-titan.info/docs/futurama.php Futurama Echoes]
 
==Characters==
Intriguing... --<tt>[[User:Nick R|Nick R]]<sup>[[User talk:Nick R|Talk]]</sup></tt> 02:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
===Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood===
Characters on the series include: Mr. McFeely the delivery man ([[David Newell]], who was named for Fred Rogers' maternal grandfather, Fred McFeely<ref name="newellcnn">{{cite interview |subject=David Newell |subjectlink=David Newell |interviewer=Carol Lin |title="Mr. Speedy Delivery" talks about his neighborhood |type= |url=http://archives.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/TV/08/31/mcfeely.chat.cnna/ |format= |program= |callsign=CNN |city= |date=2001-08-31 |accessdate= }}</ref>), Neighbor Aber ([[Chuck Aber]]), Lady Aberlin ([[Betty Aberlin]]), [[Marilyn Barnett]], Chef Brockett ([[Don Brockett]]), [[Tony Chiroldes]], [[Jose Cisneros]], Officer Clemmons ([[François Clemmons]]), Music Director from 1968 - 1996 ([[Johnny Costa]]), [[Keith David]], Music Director from 1996 - 2001 ([[Michael Morciz]]), Mrs. McFeely ([[Betsy Nadas]]), Handy Man Negri ([[Joe Negri]]), [[John Reardon (singer)|John Reardon]], [[Audrey Roth]], [[Maggie Stewart]], [[Sergio Pinto]], [[Bob Trow]]. Other regular puppeteers included [[Michael Horton]], Lenny Meledandri(1980-2001), and [[Carole Switala]].
 
===Neighborhood of Make-Believe===
== Cancellation Delation ==
Many of the puppet characters appearing in the "Neighborhood of Make-Believe" segment were developed by Rogers years earlier for the ''The Children's Corner'', an educational program that he co-produced with [[Josie Carey]]. Rogers was the puppeteer behind many of the characters in the [[Neighborhood of Make-Believe]], including:
 
* Collette
I delated the "Cancellation" section that was added and but before "Production" because the Production section said what the Cancellation section had. -[[User:Icweiner|Icweiner]]
* Cornflake S. Pecially
* Daniel Striped Tiger
* Donkey Hodie
* Edgar Cooke
* Grandpere
* Henrietta Pussycat
* Ino A. Horse†
* King Friday XIII
* Lady Elaine Fairchilde
* Queen Sara Saturday
* Tadpole Frogg†
* X the Owl
 
Other characters include:
== Minimum Security Orphanarium ==
 
* Anna Plattypus
Just on a technical note I changed the place Leela was diposeted by her parents from an Orphanage to a minimum security orphanarium.
* Betty Okonak Templeton-Jones
* Bob Dog
* Cousin Mary Owl
* Cousin Steve Owl
* Dr. Duckbill Plattypus
* Elsie Jean Plattypus
* Harriett Elizabeth Cow
* H.J. Elephant III
* Hula Mouse
* James Michael Jones
* Mrs. Frogg
* Prince Tuesday
* Purple Panda
* Robert Troll
 
[[User:Zigbigadoorlue|Zigbigadoorlue]] 05:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 
† = Ino A. Horse and Tadpole Frogg disappeared after the pre-79 MRN show.
==Animated clip in opening==
Is there a list anywhere of all the animated films that are played on the giant TV screen in the opening before the Planet Express Ship crashes into it? [[User:Tnikkel|Tnikkel]] 21:50, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Thirteen in-series "operas" took place during the course of the series within the Make-Believe segments.<ref name="newellcnn"/> Many of them feature American baritone [[John Reardon]] as a main character. Among these operas are "A Star for Kitty", "Pineapples & Tomatoes", "Key to Otherland", "All in the Laundry", "Potato Bugs and Cows", "A Granddad for Daniel", "Spoon Mountain", "Windstorm in Bubbleland" and "Josephine The Short-Necked Giraffe".
== Passing references to dead crews under "Planet Express" ==
 
Pittsburgh-area native [[Michael Keaton]] got his first major acting break as a "Neighborhood of Make-Believe" character in 1975. Keaton played an acrobat in a troup called The Flying Zookeenies that performed for King Friday's birthday. He was also in charge of running the Trolley.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.hollywood.com/celebrity/Michael_Keaton/192243 |title=Michael Keaton at Hollywood.com |accessdate=2007-05-31 |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |date= |year= |month= |format= |work= |publisher= |pages= |language= |archiveurl= |archivedate= |quote= }}</ref>
I'm pretty sure that it has been said in the DVD commentary on "The Sting" on Season 5 (or Season 4, depending on which sequencing you follow) that they wanted to do pretend to do away with a character, and linked it up with the Space Wasp. However since "wasps doesn't make honey", they have to turned it into Space Bees. Essentially, the crew that died on the Space Wasp trip is the same crew that flew the space ship found in the Space Bee hive. [[User:24.84.126.117|24.84.126.117]] 09:37, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 
== Template =Guests===
[[Image:Fred Rogers and Yo Yo Ma.jpg|thumb|Fred Rogers and [[Yo-Yo Ma]] discuss how music can be used to deal with angry feelings.]]Guests on the series ranged from [[cellist]] [[Yo-Yo Ma]] to [[actor]] and [[bodybuilder]] [[Lou Ferrigno]] of TV's ''[[The Incredible Hulk (TV Series)|The Incredible Hulk]]''. (In a 2001 piece where celebrities were asked about their heroes, Rogers cited Ma as one of his heroes.) A 1968 visit by electronic music pioneer [[Bruce Haack]] resurfaced in the 2004 documentary ''Haack: King of Techno''.
 
Guests on ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood'' were often surprised to find that although Rogers was just as gentle and patient as he was on his series, he was nevertheless a [[perfectionist]] who did not allow [[ad-lib]]bing;<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79742,00.html |title=Children's TV Icon Fred Rogers Dies at 74 |accessdate=2007-05-31 |author= |last= |first= |authorlink= |coauthors= |date=2003-02-27 |publisher=Associated Press |quote= Joe Negri . . . said Rogers demanded perfection, refusing to accept shoddy ad-libbing by guests who may have thought they could slack off during a kids' show.}}</ref> he believed that children were thoughtful people who deserved programming as good as anything produced for adults on television.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvshows.aol.com/show/mister-rogers-neighborhood/SH0029300000/main |title=Mister Rogers' Neighborhood |accessdate=2007-05-31 |date= |year= |month= |format= |work=AOL@Television |publisher=AOL LLC |pages= |language= |archiveurl= |archivedate= |quote= }}</ref>
I've recently created and added a Futurama template to most of the Futurama-related articles. If you have any questions or comments please contact me on my [[User talk:TBC|talk page]]. --[[User:TBC|<font color="gray">T</font><font color="blue">B</font><font color="purple">C</font>]]<small><sup>[[User talk:TBC|<font color="gray">???</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/TBC|<font color="blue">???</font>]] [[Special:Emailuser/TBC|<font color="purple">???</font>]]</sup></small> 03:53, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 
Rogers appeared as a guest on some other series. On the children's [[animated cartoon]] series ''[[Arthur (TV series)|Arthur]]'', for example, Rogers plays himself as an [[aardvark]] like Arthur. Prior to this, Arthur appears as a guest in hand-puppet form in an episode of ''Mister Rogers' Neighborhood''. [[Bill Nye]] (the Science Guy) and Rogers also exchanged appearances on each other's series, as did Rogers and [[Captain Kangaroo]]. Rogers appeared in an episode of ''[[Sesame Street]]'' where he explains to Big Bird, that after he beat out Mr. Snufflelupagus in a running race, that even if one loses the race, that there are no hard feelings to ever break the two of them apart. Big Bird himself also appeared in one episode of Mister Roger's Neighborhood in the Land of Make Believe.
== Petition links ==
 
==Specials==
There have been links to a petition to bring back Futurama [http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?safu] inserted into the article today. But back when it became clear that Futurama was cancelled there was another petition [http://www.gotfuturama.com/Futurama/News/1034148818,98018,/] with more than 150 000 signatures. This linked one has a bit over 10 000, and it doesn't sound new either. So the question is do we link it or not? [[User:Haakon|Haakon]] 10:57, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
A Christmas Special aired in 1978. This special had Francois Clemmons introducing a storyteller and flutist friend to Rogers. They filmed a couple of narrated segments of the stories Francois' friend told. The special also had the [[Neighborhood of Make-Believe]] segment which shows how they celebrated Christmas. Even the [[tram|trolley]] had a banner on the roof that said "Merry Christmas" on one side, and "Happy Hannukah" on the other. This special was aired every Christmas season until 1982. This special's opening and close have Rogers walking through a real neighborhood while the titles roll rather than the model neighborhood used in the series.
 
In 1994, Rogers created another one-time special for PBS called ''Fred Rogers' Heroes'' which consisted of documentary portraits of four real-life people whose work helped make their communities better. Rogers, uncharacteristically dressed in a suit and tie, hosted in wraparound segments which did not use the "Neighborhood" set.
I think itd be ok to link both. I changed the wording on the 10,000 one as it was making spurious assertions. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 13:03, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
:These petitions are rarely successful. They are not considered encyclopedic. [[User:Jtrost|Jtrost]] (<sup>[[User_talk:Jtrost|T]]</sup> | <small>[[Special:Contributions/Jtrost|C]]</small> | <sub><span class="plainlinks">[http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?dbname=enwiki_p&user=Jtrost #]</span></sub>) 13:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 
For a time Rogers produced specials for the parents as a precursor to the subject of the week on the Neighborhood called "Mister Rogers Talk To Parents About (whatever the topic was)". Rogers didn't host those specials though as other people like [[Joan Lunden]], who hosted the Conflict special, and other news announcers played MC duties in front of a gallery of parents while Rogers answered questions from them. These specials were made to prep the parents for any questions the children might ask after watching the episodes on that topic of the week.
I dont see the harm in mentioning it as a fan reaction stating however these are rarely successful and providing the links as sources, they certainly dont belong in EL though. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 15:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 
==Legacy outside television==
I tried cleaning up the sentence some more, it seems perhaps a little misplaced being in possible revival now. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 19:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
* Ligonier, Pennsylvania theme park [[Idlewild and Soak Zone]] has an attraction called "Mister Rogers Neighborhood of Make-Believe" featuring a life-size trolley ride.<ref>[http://www.idlewild.com/in_the_park/?show=mr_rogers&view=misterrogers Idlewild and Soak Zone // In the Park] </ref>
* The [[planetarium]] show "The Sky Above Mister Rogers' Neighborhood" is a computer animated adaptation of the television show for preschool-aged children.<ref>CommerSel Studios. "[http://www.commersel.com/Services/TheSkyAboveMisterRogersNeighborhood.asp The Sky Above Mister Rogers' Neighborhood]".</ref>
* After three years as a traveling exhibit, the Pittsburgh Children's Museum<ref>[http://www.pittsburghkids.org/Templates/CMP_ExhibitsDetail.aspx?CID=196&SECID=1&MENUID=94 Welcome to Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood]</ref> had Welcome to Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood installed as a permanent exhibit in 2004.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04305/403304.stm |title=The Real Deal: Museum promises hands-on fun with "stuff" |accessdate=2007-05-31 |last=Haynes |first=Monica |date=2004-10-31 |work=Pittsburgh Post-Gazette |publisher= |pages= |language= |archiveurl= |archivedate= |quote= }}</ref>
 
The music of the show was interpreted by an eclectic mix of modern artists for the 2005 album ''Songs From the Neighborhood: The Music of Mr. Rogers''. Other artists have paid homage to the show's music, including:
== rv fancruft ==
 
* "Hank and Fred," a song on [[Loudon Wainwright III]]'s 2005 album ''[[Here Come the Choppers]]'', deals with Fred Rogers' death.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fci.org/newsletter/readnews.asp?ID=45&newsletterid=12 |title=Loudon Wainright III, Hank Williams and Fred Rogers |accessdate=2007-05-31 |year=2005 |month=09 |format= |work=Family Communications Neighborhood News}}</ref>
It seems that lately a lot of reasonably relevant information is being deleted with no justification other than:
* "Intermezzo: M. Good v M. Trolley", an attempt by [[Matthew Good]] to play the Trolley's trademark music. On the track, he claims that "no human being can play that." It appears on the album ''Loser Anthems'' (2001).
"rv fancruft"
This seems a little harsh and ill explained.
What on earth does rv fancruft mean? [[User:Simondrake|Simondrake]] 00:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 
==Parodies==
I'd like to reiterate my point on RV FANCRUFT.
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Having looked it up (On wikipedia, no less) I see there is a fine line between fancruft and trivia.
And it seems there's some delete-happy editors out there who draw the line just before the subtitle 'Trivia', deleting everything after it whilest waving their beloved banner that reads:
"rv fancruft".
Now I've seen some trolling in my time, but this is beyond a joke.
There's a trivia section on most wikipedia pages refering to works of fiction, so the fact that Futurama's trivia keeps getting deleted and swept under the proverbial carpet with no more explanation than one word and a crude abbreviation seems to me not only callous but almost vindictive.
[[User:Simondrake|Simondrake]] 00:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 
Fred Rogers and his television series are often parodied for their gentleness and kind demeanor. Notable parodies include:
:The article is already 44 kilobytes. Very small pieces of information nobody cares about belongs on a fan site, not an encyclopedia.
*The recurring ''Saturday Night Live'' sketch [[Saturday Night Live TV show sketches#Mister Robinson's Neighborhood|Mister Robinson's Neighborhood]], which starred [[Eddie Murphy]] in the title role of a considerably grittier version of the series. He hosted the series from a run-down row home in a slum district. Like Rogers, Robinson's speaking manner was similarly stilted, although he constantly had to dodge the law and landlords wanting the rent. On occasion, [[Gilbert Gottfried]] appeared as Mr. McFeely.
*A [[sketch comedy|sketch]] on ''[[The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson]]'' featured Carson in a sketch as an evil "Mister Rogers" who, like [[Soupy Sales]], wanted children to steal money from their parents in order to give the funding to him, if he still wanted to be their friends. (Soupy Sales received a week's suspension for this similar act on his series.) In addition, he used small dolls to explain what happens when the parents of a child commit adultery or have an affair, resulting in lawsuits and counter-lawsuits against each other. Fred Rogers, in real life, shunned this sketch as a direct insult to his integrity.
*A sketch titled "Battle of the PBS Stars Part 1: Boxing" on the sketch comedy series ''[[Second City Television]]'' featured [[Mr. Rogers]] (portrayed by Martin Short) facing [[Julia Child]] (portrayed by John Candy) with [[Howard Cosell]] (portrayed by Eugene Levy) commentating at ringside. The fight is close until Mr. McFeely surreptitiously hands Rogers the loaded King Friday puppet which Rogers then uses to club Julia Child. Rogers is declared the winner despite the "weapon". Cosell states that it is a dark day in Mr. Rogers' neighborhood.
*The [[Flash]] animation [[Ultimate Showdown]] has Mr. Rogers as the winner of the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny.
[[Image:Kingstewie.jpg|thumb|Stewie as King Friday in "[[No Chris Left Behind]]".]]
*In the ''[[Family Guy]]'' episode "[[Brian in Love]]", Stewie dreams about destroying the Neighborhood of Make-Believe and murdering Fred Rogers. Family Guy spoofed the show again in the episode "No Chris Left Behind" using puppets to further drive in the reference, portraying Stewie as King Friday. Stewie then complained about how a king can live next to the train tracks, yelling, "What is this, [[Mexico]]!?"
*On the [[stop-motion]] [[animated series]], ''[[Robot Chicken]]'', Mr. Rogers was spoofed in int episode "Toyz in the Hood". During the 'Bloopers' skit at the end of the episode, a blooper from an episode of Mr. Roger's Neighbourhood is shown in which Mr. Roger's gets an electric shock from the train tracks because they were too close to the pond. He then calls over one of the technical supervisers, Peter, and tells him they need to "solve the problem". Mr. Roger's does so by holding Peter's head in the water until he drowns.
*[[Robin Williams]] has spoofed Mr. Rogers in stand-up routines, particularly the "Pop goes the weasel" routine ("Let's put Mr. Hamster in the microwave . . . that's severe radiation. Can you say 'severe radiation'?") from [[Reality . . . What a Concept]].
 
==References==
Trivia: Nibbler has his own spaceship.
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Fancruft: Nibblers extra eye can be seen poking out of a bin in every replay of the scene where Fry falls into the cryogenic freezer.
 
==External links==
-- [[User:Infinity0|<span style="color:red;">infinity</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Infinity0|<span style="color:red;">0</span>]]'''
* [http://pbskids.org/rogers/ PBS Kids: Official Site]
* [http://www.fci.org/ Family Communications, Inc.]
 
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Actually, the bit about Nibbler's eye being in every scene of Fry falling into the cryotube is a very legitimate piece of trivia. It shows that they were actually being pretty careful about continuity, even before continuity is revealed, something that differentiates it from the Simpsons. -[[User:RannXXV|RannXXV]] 18:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
 
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Meh, if the "continuity" point is made and there is a paragraph on it, it can be used as evidence to back up the point. -- [[User:Infinity0|<span style="color:red;">infinity</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Infinity0|<span style="color:red;">0</span>]]''' 18:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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