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'''Wickford''' is a small village in the township of [[North Kingstown]], [[Rhode Island]] named after [[Wickford]] in [[Essex]], [[England]]. Wickford is located on the west side of [[Narragansett Bay]]. The village is built around one of the most well-protected natural harbors on the eatern seaboard, and features one of the largest collections of 18th century dwellings to be found anywhere in the northeast. Today the majority of the village's historic homes and buildings (most in private hands) remain largely intact upon their original foundations.
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Wickford is generally said to have been established around 1637, when religious dissident and Rhode Island state founder [[Roger Williams]] bought a parcel of land from the sachem [[Canonicus]] and established a trading post there. Prior to [[European contact]], the lands in and around Wickford had long served as dwelling, fishing, and hunting grounds to the [[Narragansett (tribe)|Narragansett]] people, who were New England's most powerful and prominent tribe at the time when Williams found his way to their shores.
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At about the same time as Williams' purchase, Richard Smith, a religious dissident from Gloucester, England who had originally settled in the Plymouth Colony's town of Taunton, established a trading post on Narragansett Bay near the mouth of Cocumscussoc Brook. In 1637, Smith built what appears to have been a rather grand, gabled house on the site, which Williams in his letters described as the first English house in the area. This house was also heavily fortified, and thus became known as ''Smith's Castle''.
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During 1651 Smith purchased Roger Williams' trading post, and continued expanding his holdings over the years - building what came to be called the ''Cocumscussoc Plantation''. Smith's plantation became a center of social, religious and political life in the area. Many of the homes that were built during this bried period of expansion, however, were destroyed between 1675-1676 in the conflict called [[King Philip's War]]. One of the homes that went was Smith's Castle, which burned to the ground in 1676. Two years later, Richard Smith Jr. built a new home on the old foundation. Retaining the name "Smith's Castle," this structure remains standing today and is one of the area's most visited historic sites.
==? Vandalism==
Hi! Could you please take a look at the last two edits on [[Andy Fairweather-Low]], which I have just spotted using [[WP:VP]]. I can't work out if its vandalism, a bad edit or a proper edit, but it seems odd to put a user IP address on an article page. [[User:Richard Harvey|Richard Harvey]] 13:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:Reverted. {{tl|spam}} &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks for that, I will note it in for future use. Whilst I'm at it could you take a look at todays contributions [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/70.89.238.62] from [[User:70.89.238.62]] I tried to correct some vandalism from him with [[WP:VP]] but it first came back with the message 'user has already been reported', though there was none on his page relating to the specific article. I then noted he had vandalised several article today, so I tried again but only got error 9 from [[WP:VP]] in relation to his talkpage. [[User:Richard Harvey|Richard Harvey]] 14:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
Following King Philip's War, Wickford grew steadily as a port and shipbuilding center. To this day, the waterfront remains very active and hosts, among other fine vessels, the Dutch sailing yacht ''Brandaris''.
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==Vandalism by User:205.222.248.234==
Just saw your warnings to this prankster...appears to be a pattern suggesting use of a school computer and similiar to Vandalism from other IP addresses (perhaps from same school...(Osawa?)?) Not sure warnings are doing anything nor are blocks if prankster is merely shirting to computers at school that are not blocked. Result is crude words and pranks lurking in dozens of articles. [[User:HJ32|HJ]] 15:13, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
In 1755, painter [[Gilbert Stuart]] was born at Saunderstown, on the southern outskirts of Wickford, in a snuff-mill that still stands and is open to the public in season. Other famous residents have included novelist [[Owen Wister]], who for decades summered in a home just to the south of the village. Wickford was also home to Paule Stetson Loring, artist for ''Yachting Magazine'' and other publications, and longtime editorial page cartoonist for the ''Providence Journal''. A popular urban legend maintains that novelist [[John Updike]] hailed originally from Wickford - but this is not the case. Updike was born and raised in Pennsylvania. Updike did, however, use Wickford as the model for the fictional village of ''Eastwick'' in his novel, ''The Witches of Eastwick'' (Knopf: 1984).
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(Nevertheless, a branch of the Updike, or Op Den Dyck, family was among the first settling families of Wickford; the original village was at one time called <i>Updike's Newtown</i>. The descendants of Richard Smith and Lodowick Updike intermarried and the Updikes were residents of Smith's Castle in the colonial era.)
==Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Yandman==
Thank you for your comment there, you were right. I should have commented in anger there. I responded accordingly, but thanks for helping me remember that two wrongs don't make a right -- that was Yandman's time and all commentary should be about him and his actions and nobody else. [[User:Just H|Just H]] 15:12, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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== [[WP:EL]] issues and copyrights ==
 
The Wickford Art Festival - held in July of every year since 1962 and hosted by the Wickford Art Association - is one of the leading such events on the eastern seaboard, attracting hundreds of prominent artists and thousands of spectators from across the country and around the world.
The phrasing " "Sites which fail to provide licensing information" never had consensus to be put in [[WP:EL]] (I think). The current draft in fact says that there is no ban on linking to google or youtube and that the relevant rule is that "If you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, do not link to that copy of the work." [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 14:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
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Pursuant to that, I've gone through some of the recent removals and restored them. 6 or so of the videos appeared to be actual copyvios or very likely copyvios and I have therefore not restored their links. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 14:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
* [http://www.beautyandthebath.com/ Beauty and the Bath of Wickford (Official Website)]
: In at least one case, you appear to have removed what is actually a) not even a copyvio issue since its a user page on youtube, and b is in fact officially run by and endorsed by the group in question. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nobody%27s_Watching&diff=prev&oldid=103125264]. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 14:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
* [http://www.yachtbrandaris.com/ Brandaris - Dutch Sailing Yacht of Wickford, RI (Official Website)]
* [http://www.byy.com/wickford/visit.cfm Brewer Wickford Cove Marina (Official Website)]
* [http://www.canvasri.com/ Canvasworks of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.differentdrummerri.com/ Different Drummer Gift Shop of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.wickfordbaptist.org/ First Baptist Church of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.gwillakers.com/ G. Willakers Country Store of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.gilbertstuartmuseum.com/ Gilbert Stuart Birthplace Museum at Saunderstown, RI, on the outskirts of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.goldladyjewelers.com/ Gold Lady Jewelers of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://herbwyfe.com/ The Herb Wyfe of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [https://www.the-hourglass.com/shop/ The Hourglass, Wickford, RI (Official Website)]
* [http://www.npj.com/homepage/teritowe/histwick.html Photo-Tour of Wickford, RI]
* [http://www.pswri.com/ Pleasant Street Wharf, Wickford, RI (Official Website)]
* [http://www.ryansmarket.com/ Ryan's Market, Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.smithscastle.org/ Smith's Castle (Official Web Site)]
* [http://www.stpaulswickford.org/ St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Wickford, RI (Official Website)]
* [http://www.teddybearskins.com/ Teddy Bearskins of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.wickfordart.org/ Wickford Art Association (Official Website)]
* [http://www.wickfordgourmet.com/ Wickford Gourmet (Official Website)]
* [http://www.wickfordvillage.org/ Wickford Village (Official Website)]
* [http://wickfordyc.org/ Wickford Yacht Club (Official Website)]
* [http://www.wilsonsofwickford.com/ Wilson's of Wickford (Official Website)]
* [http://www.woodwater.com/ Wood & Water of Wickford, RI (Official Website)]
 
::Ah yes. I use AWB and am bound to miss a few things. However, [[Nobody's Watching]] is a television programme, so I assumed that it could have been a possible copyvio. Also, such websites do not provide licensing information and are less than [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. A better way would have been to ask the uploader of those videos to upload the media onto the foundation servers. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
::: The solution to that might be to not use AWB to do this. Many of the other videos you removed were private videos that claimed to have been made by the uploaders and similar situations. In general, we shouldn't remove links to youtube unless there is in fact strong evidence of a copyright violation (such as it actually being a clip from a television show or movie uploaded by someone not representing the owner). Also note that it isn't reasonable to to expect people to upload these videos onto the foundation servers- Wikimedia is not a video repository and neither the servers nor software is heavily optimized for that sort of thing. In summary, the current policy says we should remove actual likely copyvios not videos who have less than complete copyright info given. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 14:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
::::The current policy is still under dispute. However, I do feel that Wikipedia is not a farm link for video sources like that. Most of such videos are bad-quality, unreliable (as in [[WP:RS]]), and severely undermine the reputation of Wikipedia as a ''free source''. Most of them might not have been uploaded by their original authors. In copyright issues, we do not make presumptions about the copyright owners of the video unless expressly stated by them. Also, we cannot deal with plagiarism over the internet; like we do on-wiki. Also, can you have a [[User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington/YouTube|look here]], and tell me what you think? <tt>:)</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 15:22, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
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Thanks for meeting you in Ahmedabad. It was very nice. Your help is appreciated to complete [[m:Promoting the South Asian languages projects/Gujarati]]. Thanks again, [[User:Yann|Yann]] 17:11, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
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==[[Patrick Tull]] YouTube video link==
You removed a link to a YouTube video of Patrick Tull reading. The reason given was "Sites which fail to provide licensing information". However, YouTube requires the person uploading a video to certify that he/she owns the copyright. The YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/t/terms Terms of Use) indicate that people may freely access their content through their site which is what that link did. It was not uploaded to Wikipedia, merely a relevant link. Why was the link removed. It was relevant, freely available and licensed by the site for access through the site. [[User:Dabbler|Dabbler]] 18:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
 
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Hi Nick. I noticed you've gotten semi-involved in this issue. An anon from a dynamic verizon IP seems to be re-inserting the same information to the article. The information is poorly sourced and contains citations to trivial web publications that do not meet [[WP:RS]], [[WP:V]], or [[WP:EL]]. I've tried to warn the anon [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A72.68.126.98&diff=102827460&oldid=102677992] but they've since moved on to another IP. You warned the IP anon, but since they're on a dynamic IP I think they'll be unlikely to get the message. I've mentioned my objections in the talk page of this article. I do not want to risk 3RR over this. Do you think you could revert and s-protect the article while the discussion is ongoing and we can get the anon to see the light? Thanks. &mdash;[[User:Malber|Malber]] ([[User talk:Malber|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Malber|contribs]]) 20:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:It's sneaky vandalism, as I soon found out. Restrain yourself from passing 3RR though. I'll do something about it. Regards, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::I see he has reverted you again. Try to look at the few links, and if they make sense, consider [[WP:DR|dispute resolution]]. [http://www.sfbaytimes.com/index.php?sec=article&article_id=4479], [http://www.afterelton.com/columns/2006/5/lastgayword2.html]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm assuming good faith on this. I'm sure it's a newbie anon with a dynamic DSL connection. The edits aren't vandalism per se, but display a misunderstanding of what a reliable source is. He's put in some good citations from Salon.com and SF Bay Times (a publication which deserves an article). He put back in two of the questionable sources which I've removed. I placed something in talk and recommended it in my edit summary, so I don't think the article needs protection at this point. Thanks for looking into this. &mdash;[[User:Malber|Malber]] ([[User talk:Malber|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Malber|contribs]]) 15:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Try talking with the user, post a comment on the talk page. Ask other users on the talk page to remove the Tripod links. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 15:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
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Have a nice day!!!--[[User:GravityFong|Gravity]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:GravityFong|Talk]]</sup></small> 05:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20060220154049&limit=500&target=Sir_Nicholas_de_Mimsy-Porpington&namespace=0 Take a look at this,] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gujarat_National_Law_University&diff=prev&oldid=36778465 this, ] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gujarat_National_Law_University&diff=next&oldid=36778465 and this]
 
:Thank you so much! Its being a pleasure working with you all! <tt>^_^</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 
Happy Wikibrithday! Wish you another good year ahead on Wikipedia. ''Cheers'' [[User:Terence Ong|Terence Ong]] 14:28, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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== Hello, I see you're in! ==
 
I've heard alot about you! -[[User:Working for Him|I&#39;m Working for Him]] 04:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 
So I made a few mistakes, but can you help me... (these are from the talk pages that I submitted to [[ChrisO]] yet i have gotten no reply, and you were second to last on the deletion log so now i come to you)
 
*I'm trying to flush out the entries for the Psychic Tv Discography and have had some posts deleted. Could you point me to some acceptable examples of how to add a small entry that won't get flagged for the speedy deletion, as most of the subject listings already exist but have no info in them. Some of them point to single releases and as such there won't be much content when finished. I think that if a release is already listed in the discography, then it should have at least a minimal entry as to the track listin, catalogue number, label and year of release. Also some entries may only be a re-release under a new name or label and as such would mostly contain a reference to the original entry.
 
J mead 23 21:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 
*Just saw that an entry that I had put up again after it's deletion for an erroneous flag of advertising has now been protected, [[A Pagan Day]] This was an entry attempting to describe an album that was released 22 years ago, and I believe it is notable in that it was a draft for the third Psychic TV album, and also for the fact that it was very limited in that the time for which record stores could place orders for it was less than 1 day. I can't talk to the sysop, Redvers, that protected it as it appears they have left Wikipedia. Trying not to be a pest, and I'm reading through the guides and tutorials so as to not violate any policies and such, but this can be frustrating.
 
J mead 23 02:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 
please, if it's still possible look at the entry/article that was deleted and see if there is/was criteria for deletion, also please take a look at my contributions page, as I have continued forward and hopefully not repeated my grave error from before.
I believe that my user page would allow you to send me a commment or something along those lines that would be helpfull. I'm only trying to put information out there.
 
also any tips on how to cite a reference from an album cover sleeve or cd booklet would be apppreciated as this is the sole purpose of my posting to Wikipedia. i really don't want to be flagged or banned for not following the rules. sucks to be a noob.
 
[[User:J mead 23|J mead 23]] 12:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 
== Reverting twice to incorrect Wiki-entry ==
 
Why do you (and Jerome - Jcw69) reverting back my addition (of an external link to Robert Jameson) at this page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barberton%2C_Mpumalanga Barberton] to the 'wrong' Robert Jameson at Wikipedia?
 
I'm not even going to 'prove' this is clearly a mistake (misleading people by sending them to a person that was not even alive when the flower was discovered\named - which is why I added birth- and death-year in second instance), but according to this page
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes Resolving disputes] an explanation would have been the least you (and Jerome) could have given:
 
"Be respectful to others and their points of view. This means primarily: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. When someone makes an edit you consider biased or inaccurate, improve the edit, rather than reverting it. Provide a good edit summary when making significant changes that other users might object to. The revision you would prefer will not be established by reverting, and repeated reverting is forbidden; discuss disputed changes on the talk page.
 
First step: Talk to the other parties involved
The first resort in resolving almost any conflict is to discuss the issue on a talk page."
Looking forward to hear from you.
 
:Please review [[WP:V]], [[WP:RS]]. Regards, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:13, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 
::Absurd - is this a case of Wiki-centrism? Or big ego's? Just because there is an entry in Wiki, you link to it whithout verifying(!) its relevancy. Even when you have every reason and indication (and now information) to assume it is incorrect, you keep directing people to a non-related item - plus, there is no reference to the topic from which you are linking. So, in case an external link is not acceptable (as it can't be verified - which is highly arbitrary in the first place - who is the judge here?), you prefer to keep a demonstrable incorrect one... Instead of removing it to avoid any confusion - but now, verifiability doesn't seem an issue.
::Too bad - two people sticking to an opinion and not applying the same rules to themselves as they do apply to others. The beginning of the end of something great like Wikipedia? Like Orwell wrote: "Some are more equal than others."
:::I am a little surpirsed that a simple reversion of edit was deemed appropriate here. I spent thirty seconds checking this edit, the reversion, the wikilink in question and some external sources and was utterly clear that the wikilink reverted to was incorrect. Fine, so the link provided to the Gerbera society might not fit into traditional [[WP:RS]] but what it did do (and dozens of other Ghits) was to clarify that reverting the wikilink as you did was wrong. I would recommend that 30 seconds spent doing some independent research would have prevented this situation - the botanist whose link you reinstated died about 30 years before the flower was discovered. Simple. Before simply referring users to [[WP:V]] and [[WP:RS]], you ought to do a bit of research yourself. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] 22:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
::::And I am ''very'' suprised that you come here to point out my ''poor form(?)''
::::#I was on vandalism patrol at that very moment. The user ''did not'' leave any edit-summary even after two edits. I was ''not warring'' with this user. I reverted ''only once''. What else do you expect me to do?
::::#I reviewed the website, OK? It didn't look a bit like [[WP:RS|reliable source]] to me. Wikipedia is not a place for substandard links.
::::#The user was not logged on and editing through an anon IP which has a history of vandalism.
::::#I suggest that you find yourself a better past-time than leaving snide remarks with snide edit-summaries on my talk page. Good day. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 10:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Nothing ''snide'' intended. I was surprised that you had reverted to a version of the wikilink that was incorrect, that was all. The points you raise are all good, but the IP in question hadn't vandalised for a month, so the <nowiki>{{spam3}}</nowiki> seemed a little harsh, particularly as the spamming wasn't the same (suggesting a different user) and you once told me [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The_Rambling_Man/Archive_4#Hello this]. What I expected was that since the editor got in touch with you, perhaps you could have looked at the edit rather than just referring to policy. That's what I do if I revert what I consider to be vandalism (and, agreed, anon IP edits without summaries stink of vandalism) and someone makes a fuss (beside just insulting me, which happens more oft than not).
:::I'm sorry if my remarks came across poorly. I just felt that the editor hadn't received his fair share of good faith. That is all. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] 10:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::My edits and edit-summaries were not made in bad faith, unlike yours. Take the user under your tutelage. The point is, ''I was not warring with the user'' and my reply to him, though short was not made in bad-faith. Start paying respect to other users and drop this condescending attitude. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
:::My edits are never made in bad faith, nor was the 'bad form' summary, I simply felt that your reversion, spam warning and brief reply to the editor's question wasn't commensurate with what I've come to expect, particularly as you'd admonished me for similar erroneous behaviour a few months back. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] 14:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Look, there is a good difference between what happened a few months back and now. You warned the user with a {{tl|test4}} and reported him to [[WP:AIV]], where a trigger-happy admin blocked him on site ''for a singular edit''. ''Prima facie'' going with the facts of the case, my only mistake was not checking out what the article actually said. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 13:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Look, the edit where I placed a {{tl|test4}} was five consecutive vandal edits which added the following to the [[Dumbo]] article:
 
(Removed by zealous editor who believed it to be trolling. It was, in fact, real vandalism, but, in a way, I'm glad it's gone, being ''so'' offensive, for anyone interested, it's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dumbo&diff=85244091&oldid=85182057 here].)
:::After five edits (that's not singular, it's five consecutive vandal edits), that equates to either a t4 or a bv in anyone's books. At least I checked the edits and realised that adding such disgusting profanity to (in particular) children's articles, the 'trigger happy' admin did the right thing; not to mention the IP in question went on to vandalise another seven or eight times the same day (on [[Water]] and other articles). I'm glad you realise you actually made a mistake by not checking the edits in this case. Good luck in the future. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] 22:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 
Thanks, Rambling Man, for making the effort to contribute to this page! Apparently it takes someone like you (a registered and respected Wiki-editor compared to an underling like me) to make acceptable edits - acceptable for Wiki-centric people like NHN, that is, as many others would have followed your route (and common sense): click on the added link, check the website (legit or just a spam-front), do a query on any search-engine and make a judgement in good faith.
NHN's defense that it was anonymous editing, without summary and from an IP that has been used for vandalism are the typical excuses for someone that is abusing his self-perceived authority to justify indifference and lazyness - the type of people that stick to rules and regulations at all cost, without even wondering if they make sense or hurt an overall goal of improvement, to patronize non-members (of their elite).
 
Then the 'justification': "It didn't look a bit like reliable source to me" - well, then 99% of the legit websites (again - who's the judge here?) become unreliable at this very moment - a website clearly stating real world addresses and contact details, its objectives, its non-profit nature, being a .org ___domain, without commercial offers, other than related to the main topic (selling some plants), with about 200 related pages, providing information for free - nope, then you are clearly a damn good spammer, trying to attract loads of visitors from some heavily visited Wiki page about one of the most popular topics on Wiki: a small, obscure town in the boondocks.
And then, if that same 'ruthless vandalising spammer' makes the effort to write a comment about incorrect reversions by two different Wiki-authorities, (obviously only because they ruined his income), you still maintain you did so in good faith? Without even editing your own reversion into what Rambling Man did: a neutral statement? But hey, if you are on vandalism patrol then you have to take split second decisions, it being a matter of life & death: it's me or him. Right?
 
Sorry - it's this attitude that makes life of the majority of people so much harder - not common sense prevails, but burocracy and rules that some people are too happy to enforce onto others.
It's also this attitude of mental lethargy that ruins the faith in something great like Wikipedia - how many of NHN-SNdMP's (and JCW69's, of course) edits and contributes can be relied on? And how many Wikipedians are like them: "We know we are right, we don't make mistakes, we tell you the truth."?
Scary - I think I rather stay anonymous now (ok, they know my IP address - by the way, another good 'argument': ever heard of rotating IP addresses, issued by your provider? Or using an anonymizer, meaning you hide your actual IP? So, don't rely on this to detect vandalism - it's not only completely unreliable, but also 'unfair' to legit posters - that is, if you want to be of good faith and if you want to use common sense, of course...).
 
Thanks again Rambling Man - when I ever register, I will contact you: it's people like you that we have to rely on to fight the battle against dogmatists and zealots :-)
 
==Why have you blocked [[User:Mustafa Bhai]]==
I wrote an email to you but to no response..Why exactly have you blcoked me writing the block as spa troll , I believe because i reprsent a user that is not very friendly with your supremely trollish Hindu coreligionists [[User:87.74.2.184|87.74.2.184]] 16:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:If this user is the sock of banned user Mustafa Bhai, then action is needed. He has been using multiple ip addresses to [[WP:STALK]] and harass me. I have more information about him.[[User:Rumpelstiltskin223|Rumpelstiltskin223]] 21:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::RSPP, administrators choose to [[WP:RBI|revert, block and ignore]]. Ignore the trolls. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 15:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Heads up ==
 
[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington]] <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:HighInBC|HighInBC]] ([[User talk:HighInBC|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/HighInBC|contribs]]) 17:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->
 
== Heads up ==
 
[[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington]] [[User:HighInBC|HighInBC]]<small> <sup>(Need help? [[User_talk:HighInBC|Ask me]])</sup></small> 17:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:I came to mention the same thing. Maybe we should add to the headers on AN and ANI that when raising an issue about a particular admin's actions, the poster should make sure to let that person know. Regards, [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 20:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::It was not a punitive block as alleged by my learned friend, Passcal. RCS did not show any inclination in discussing the article issues on the talk page, but resorted to reverting the article, even after being reported on [[WP:AN3]]. I will block again if he doesn't solve his revert-warring issues. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:05, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Should we remove our messages? ==
 
Since there has been no response on Wt:Vand I think we should remove it but wanted to ask you first.--[[User:St.daniel|St.daniel]] 02:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Letting you know ==
 
Heya, I just thought that I'd bring to your attention that in your comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Block_review here] you include a link to ED, which should probably be removed as per the recent [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/MONGO ArbCom ruling]. [[User:Bitnine|Bitnine]] 01:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:It's only temporary. Remove it, if you are so inclined to. But leave an explanation there. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 12:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Someone wants to talk to you :) ==
 
Hi Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,
 
Please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Sir_Nicholas_de_Mimsy-Porpington&diff=105045387&oldid=103849436]
 
--[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 07:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:[[User:Kuntan|Nevermind him]]. <tt>:)</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 12:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== ED ==
 
Could you email me a link to the article that you said was about me on ED? I've been able to find two mentions of me, but no article. (Of the two mentions, one is egregiously false and could easily be corrected by about 5 minutes of research. I'm disappointed in them) [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 21:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
:I am sorry, I must have been mistaken. However, there have been comments made on you. Regards, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 11:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Sigh. No ED, no Daniel Brandt entry. The most I get is an entry on uncommon descent. Obviously I'm not doing a good enough job enforcing Wiki policy. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 00:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Unprotect ==
 
The disputed image at [[Mika (singer)]] has now been deleted according to policy. <span style="font-family: Verdana;">[[User:ed_g2s|ed g2s]] &bull; [[User talk:ed_g2s|talk]]</span> 16:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 17:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Reverting back [[:Iraq]] ==
 
Would I be in violation of 3RR if I reverted that page to what it was before seeing that the user has been blocked? :: <em>[[User:Colin Keigher|Colin Keigher]]</em> <font color="red">'''([[User talk:Colin Keigher|Talk]])'''</font> 16:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:Obviously. As a sysop you shouldn't have reverted more than once. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 16:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
::Haha. I am a sysop now? This is news to me. :) :: <em>[[User:Colin Keigher|Colin Keigher]]</em> <font color="red">'''([[User talk:Colin Keigher|Talk]])'''</font> 16:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Owww, wait. ''/me smacks head''. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 17:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
::::For a brief moment there, you had granted me powers of a supreme deity! :: <em>[[User:Colin Keigher|Colin Keigher]]</em> <font color="red">'''([[User talk:Colin Keigher|Talk]])'''</font> 17:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::With great power, comes great responsibility <tt></uncleben></tt> With great responsibilities, come great off-wiki stalking trolls. <tt></unclenick></tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 17:11, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Philwelch RfAr ==
 
Sir Nicholas: I see you've put some time into the Philwelch RfAr request, but please double-check some of the links. For example, I think what is supposed to be the link to the discussion of the John Reid block on ANI actually goes to the Centrix block. I'd fix them myself rather than bother you with this, but you probably have a note of which archive everything is in which I don't, plus users aren't really supposed to edit another person's section in an ArbCom request. Regards, [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 17:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
:I think I just fixed it. Thanks for letting me know. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Thanks for signing ==
 
Thanks for adding to my [[User:Malber/sighall|sighall]] :-) <span style="font-family:Papyrus; font-weight:bold; border:none; font-size:10pt; background: #F0F8FF; line-height:8pt; width:30em;">&mdash;[[User:Malber|Malber]] ([[User talk:Malber|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Malber|contribs]] <small>•</small> [[User:Malber/thegame|game]]) 18:31, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== My RfA ==
 
Hey Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,
 
I just would like to thank you for your support in my recent request for adminship, which passed with a final tally of 54/13/11. I appreciate the trust expressed by members of the community, and will do my best to uphold it.
 
Naturally, I am still becoming accustomed to using the new tools, so if you have suggestions or feedback, or need anything please let me know. - [[User:Gilliam|Gilliam]] 21:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==re 3RR rule==
Could you please protect the article [[Kamelot]] as you did to [[St. Anger]], as I feel that I am having a similar dispute there although I have even more of a case for the information and it is the same user who is constantly removing it and has left no messages on the talk page reguarding the issue.--[[User:E tac|E tac]] 02:38, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==[[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Philwelch]]==
Hello,
 
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Philwelch]]. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Philwelch/Evidence]]. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Philwelch/Workshop]].
 
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 12:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Huseyincan Celil==
I would like this page protected until the editing dispute is resolved as other editors have decided that commenting on the talkpage is not a good use of their time. [[User:KazakhPol|KazakhPol]] 03:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
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==My last RfA/me==
Hi Nick! You opposed [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ST47 2|my last RfA]] in late November 2006. There were opposes citing civility and inexperience with policy. It's about 3 months after that, and I think I've gained more experiance in policy and more emotional stability on-wiki. Recently I've been doing a bit of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam]] stuff, though this last week I haven't had a great deal of time. Anyway, I was considering an RfA in a month or two, and I wanted to ask a few people if they had any recommendations as to what I should to or criticisms over the last few months. Thanks for reading! [[User:ST47|ST47]]<small>[[User talk:ST47|Talk]]</small> 01:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
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== My RFA ==
 
 
 
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| <center><big><big>'''''Thank You,'''''</big></big><br><font face="Verdana" color=navy size=4>'''<font color=royalblue>{{PAGENAME}} for your Support!</font></font></center>
<center><font color=royalblue>''' Thank you for your support in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Arjun01|<font color=darkgreen>my RfA</font>]], which closed at 111 / 1 / 2. I am humbled and rather shocked to see such kind comments and for it to reach [[WP:100]]. Please feel free to [[User talk:arjun01|leave a note]] if I have made a mistake or if you need anything, I will start out slow and tackle the harder work once I get accustomed to the tools. Thank you once more, I simply cannot express in words my gratitude.</center></font>
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:...fly on littlewing. ~ [[User:Arjun01|<font color="#7b68ee">'''Arjun'''</font>]] 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Barnstar... ==
 
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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | There you mate... you deserve this for reverting vandalism on my page! <b><font color="saffron">[[User:AMbroodEY| Amey Aryan DaBrood]]</font></b><sup><b><font color="red">[[User_talk:AMbroodEY|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 15:09, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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:Yeah, and perhaps one more for reducing your edit-count by 178 edits. D'oh. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 15:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Philwelch ==
 
Do you want me to leave Wikipedia? [[User:Philwelch|Philwelch]] 23:41, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:[[Barney Rubble|Yeaaaaa....nnooo]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==MOSLOW==
Is it important to use the '''<nowiki>{{MOSLOW}}</nowiki>''' tag on filmographies that are not written in chronological order for example a tag that was added on [[Aishwariya Rai]] page and by reading the [[WP:LOW]] its hard to tell--[[User:Cometstyles|Cometstyles]] 15:27, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:I have never been much of an editor. Perhaps the [[User talk:Blnguyen|YellowMonkey]] might be able to help you out. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 15:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== RfAr ==
 
No thanks. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 15:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:As you haven't removed me from the RfA, I have don so myself. leave me out of this, and far away from Phil Welch. [[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 19:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 
::Nick, I am displeased. You made me a part of the PhilWelch RfA, and now he's coming after me with attacks. Please see the RfA, I have added to my statement.[[User:ThuranX|ThuranX]] 21:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:::Ignore him. Let the administrators do their jobs. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 
== Your message ==
 
First, what I don't understand is that, no matter how many times this comes up, and how many times it's pointed out that there is no policy &ndash; not even a guidline &ndash; that limits the use of rollback, people still make this sort of challenge. When even anons can use popups, and editors are reverting using "undo", it's especially difficult to see why anyone should even think that there might be a problem in the first place.
 
Secondly, an editor suddenly reverted a lot of work copy-editing, wikifying, and MoSing, with a pointless and unrelated edit summary; I'm supposed to spend even more time than he's already wasted just because you and others are unaccountably squeamish about using rollback? I mean, you did ''look'' at what was involved, didn't you? I also explained to him, both at his Talk page and at the article page, why I'd done what I'd done.
 
Is there a reason for your getting involved on the side of those who want to return the poor English, the incorrect wikilinks, and the lead that goes against the MoS? --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]] ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]) 14:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:First, I said "near-vandals", and I stick by that (it is, in fact, a mild term in the circumstances). One of the people involved referred to my edits that merely introduced better English, correct wikilinks, etc., as vandalism; I do hope that you wagged your finger there too.
:Secondly, if you want to change the guidelines or policy on rollback, go ahead and try (such changes have always been rejected in the past); until then, please stop pretending that your finger-wagging is backed up by anything but your own preferences.
:Thirdly, this dispute has been over for some time; why do you want to stir it up again? --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]] ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]) 16:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 
::Yes, yes, you do that. Now could you leave me to do things that are actually useful for Wikipedia? There must be lots of other people who are in desperate need of your finger wagging. --[[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]] ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<font color="green">Talk</font>]]) 15:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
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==Advice is needed==
Hi. I wish to submit a complaint regarding one of the Admins' bullish behaviour, and abuse of his administrative rights ([[User:Mel Etitis]]); and, since I was unable to find the relevant page/form, therefore I am taking your time. I would be grateful if you kindly advice me by return. Regards [[User:Surena|Surena]] 20:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:As far as I know, Mel has not abused his core administrative tools, such as the block, protect and delete buttons. Please [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] while dealing with other editors, and try to resolve disputes peacefully by using the talk pages of the articles for discussion. In case you are not satisfied by my answer, feel free to file an informal complaint on [[WP:AN]] or go to [[WP:RFC]] or [[WP:RFAR]] as you deem appropriate. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">'''Nearly Headless Nick'''</font>]] 14:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Warning and blocking ==
 
Sorry about that, I just saw that he'd been given an "only warning", and so reported him when he vandalised again. Otherwise, what's the point of the "only warning" at all? In general, I don't even like the "only warning" (although I have used it once), and am always fair with vandals. But since it was clearly vandalism ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tekken_Tag_Tournament&diff=107567906&oldid=107567676 diff]), and not an honest mistake in any way, I don't really think it's biting the newbie. [[User:Condem|<font COLOR="blue">ConDem</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Condem|<font COLOR="red">Talk</font>]]</sup> 16:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Query ==
 
You said that you ''"have seen systematic reverts of other users' edits, without trying to engage them on the talk pages. The WP:CREEP incident would be a good example."'' Please take a look at the talk page of [[WP:CREEP]] and you will see that yes, I am engaging people and discussing the issue. I've been on the talk page since december 7th; the dispute with Jeff started several weeks later. [[User_talk:Radiant!|<b><font color="#DD0000">&gt;<font color="#FF6600">R<font color="#FF9900">a<font color="#FFCC00">d<font color="#FFEE00">i</font>a</font>n</font>t</font>&lt;</font></b>]] 15:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
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==Autoblock==
 
Thanks for removing the autoblock! What is an autoblock though? [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 13:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:It is a tool that blocks the IP address of the blockee. So, even if your account gets unblocked, you will not be able to edit until your IP address gets unblocked. The IP addresses are not available, even to administrators. They are identified with this tool &ndash; [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~pgk/autoblock.php]. View my blocking log &ndash; [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Sir+Nicholas+de+Mimsy-Porpington&page=]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 13:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the info. WP is more complex and sophisticated than I had thought. I learned something! [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 13:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::: I was very surprised when I learned that you got blocked. I always took you for a smart-one. <tt>;)</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 13:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, some people think I am smart. My girl friend thinks I am stupid and she got a kick out of my block. My cat did too, I think, he was giving me superior looks. :) [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 23:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== CyberAnth ==
 
Um, I thought in my 3RR reoort I indicated why a block would not be that necessary. May I ask why you choose to block her? [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 15:05, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:I guess I did not read your message ''very'' carefully. However, the version to which you were reverting was no [[WP:BLP]] violation, and the words were done fairly. In case you feel that it would be appropriate to unblock, please go ahead. I have no objections. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 17:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== OK... ==
 
I dont know who you are but please leave me alone. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would see that he personally attacked me first. Again, please leave me alone. I have work to do. [[User:WikiTony|WikiTony]] 17:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 
PS:I know you proably meant well but it certainly seems like certain parties who will remain nameless are ganging up on me. Again, i do not mean any hostility but i believe there is hostility being directed at me from various people. I just dont think you know the full story of what happened when you wrote what you did on my talk page. i have already left that guy a note to explain to him (politely) how i feel about the incident. [[User:WikiTony|WikiTony]] 17:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
:Responded on your talk page. I have watchlisted your talk page, you can respond there and I will notice any messages you address to me. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 17:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== AfD closure? ==
You recently closed [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people who became famous only in death]] with delete. I count 9 delete votes, 7 keep votes excluding a keep comment by a newly registered user: 56.25%. [[Wikipedia:Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators#Rough_consensus]] is relevant but I note the relevant article, [[Consensus_decision-making#If consensus is not unanimous, who must agree?]], states ''Rough Consensus is the process used by the IETF working group, where there is no specific rule for "how much is enough". Rather, the question of consensus is left to the judgment of the working group chair. While this makes it more difficult for a small number of disruptors to block a decision, it puts increased responsibility on the chair, and has frequently led to divisive debates about whether rough consensus has in fact been correctly identified.'' [[Wikipedia:Consensus]] states ''the numbers mentioned as being sufficient to reach supermajority vary from about 60% to over 80% depending upon the decision''. [[Wikipedia:Supermajority]] - a rejected policy but perhaps the content is useful because it reflects past decisions, states consensus is ''two-thirds or larger majority support for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (WP:AFD)''.
 
Any comment?--[[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle ]] <sup>[[User_talk:Golden Wattle|talk]]</sup> 22:41, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:No comment. See [[WP:DRV]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 08:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:I too find the deletion to be premature & inappropriate. The call had been made to edit/modify it until it was clearer, but instead it was deleted without that effort. --[[User:Duemellon|Duemellon]] 13:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== CSD ==
 
Hehe... [[Special:Recentchanges]] rocks. I haven't looked into [[CAT:CSD]] for a day or two... because I'm thinking how to defeat those stupid spambots and stop them from polluting our wiki with nonsense/w/index.php pages. :-) [[User talk:Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh|Awyong Jeffrey]] [[User:Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh|Mordecai Salleh]] 09:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== the noob ==
I hearby request the noob be re-created in my userspace. [[User:Timmccloud|Timmccloud]] 12:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Here you are &ndash; [[User:Timmccloud/The noob]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 14:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Articles for deletion/Starslip Crisis ==
RE: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Starslip_Crisis] May want to have a look at this article. http://www.halfpixel.com/2007/02/15/delete-wikipedia . There is a discussion started [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#more_webcomics_stuff more webcomics stuff]. :( --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 14:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:I'll look into it. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 14:45, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::thought you'd be interested since your mentioned in the article.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 14:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::: I think I made the decision by looking into the discussions and arguments, rather than counting fake [[WP:SPA]] account votes. The article did not pass the threshold of [[WP:N|notability]] in any case. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 14:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Ditto. I'm also putting a note on the [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review]] page. --[[User:Zandperl|zandperl]] 15:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::[[Battle droid|Roger, roger]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 15:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
"I think I made the decision by looking into the discussions and arguments" - You <I>think</I>? You're not even sure? And what arguments persuaded you, anyway? The arguments were designed to be flawed. [[User:Boxjam|Boxjam]] 16:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:''The arguments were designed to be flawed''. The sockpuppets seem to have a better grasp of policies then you do. Only the Alexa ranking bit was wrongly put. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 16:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::You cannot be serious. Have you even read the article linked? If so what is your opinion?(reply here not on my userpage). Please also note that the WCCA comments in the delete were also by sockpuppets --[[User:Energman|Energman]] 17:39, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:::The nomination having been admittedly in bad faith and the deletion debate infected beyond redemption by gross misconduct, the deletion nomination and result are void ''ab initio'' and I have reinstated the article per WP:IAR. This is not to be considered an overturning of your close result, but a determination that there was never a valid deletion nomination and debate in the first place. No criticism of you is intended, who closed properly based on the views that had been presented. This is all, of course, without prejudice to a nomination from a contributor in good standing. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 02:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::::Ever the diplomant, Brad. <tt>:)</tt> Would you not agree when I say that a lot of SPA trolling and socking is going around on AfDs? Each and everyone of them is organised, and this one got published on some blog. Should we even pay attention to them? I closed it within my reasoning, and if we are going to consider "votes" (as they all call it) that say ''keep'' on baseless grounds, it would be such a shame. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 10:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Freedom skies==
I will stay away from the "Indian mathematics" article for the remaining period of the block. Best Regards, <sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Freedom skies|Freedom skies]]|[[User_talk:Freedom skies|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></sub> 15:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Hillcrest Christian School ==
 
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#{{{2|page name}}}|deletion review]] of [[:Hillcrest Christian School]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.. Meanwhile will you userfy to me, please? [[User:Bridgeplayer|Bridgeplayer]] 16:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Sure. I have recreated the text here &ndash; [[User:Bridgeplayer/Hillcrest Christian School]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 16:58, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
::Thank you. [[User:Bridgeplayer|Bridgeplayer]] 17:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== DRV ==
 
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#{{{2|The noob}}}|deletion review]] of [[:The noob]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 21:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Latino Muslims AFD ==
 
Where did you find no consensus in the Latino Muslims thread? It was 7-6 in favor of deletion, per the rules the thread needs to go.--[[User:Skyhawk4584|- Skyhawk]] 22:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:AfDs are not votes. Latino Muslims page probably needs to be moved to a moar appropriate title. It needs work and sources, but it is a perfectly encyclopedic subject. Give it some time to develop, sources would be available over the internet. Try using relevant keywords. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 10:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== DRV note ==
 
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#{{{2|List of people who became famous only in death}}}|deletion review]] of [[:List of people who became famous only in death]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
 
I have raised the issue also at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Consensus standards for deletion]]--[[User:Golden Wattle|Golden Wattle ]] <sup>[[User_talk:Golden Wattle|talk]]</sup> 22:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#{{{2|Blood Red Sandman}}}|deletion review]] of [[:Blood Red Sandman]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. [[User:Blood red sandman|'''Blood Red Sandman''']] [[User talk:Blood red sandman|<font color="black">Open Up Your Heart</font>]] <font color="blue">-</font> [[Special:Contributions/Blood red sandman|<font color="red">Receive My EviLove</font>]] 07:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== 30LL ==
An editor has asked for a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#{{{2|30LL}}}|deletion review]] of [[:30LL]]. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. [[User:Kartrab|Kartrab]] 01:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
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== Look What I Brought Home! ==
Content of [[Look What I Brought Home!]] has been simply blanked and replaced with a redirect, and not merged with [[Keenspot]] per your closing comments... would you mind finishing that if that's what you really think should be done? FYI on that...
As someone who commented but did not vote on that AFD, it is, upon examining the [[Keenspot]] article, not a good idea to set the precedent of sticking sections on every Keenspot comic worth talking about within the [[Keenspot]] article. Perhaps you should have just closed with a simple keep per the 7 rather than merge per the 2? [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 21:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Opinions of [[WP:SPA]] accounts are generally ignored. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 07:56, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, the ''5'' votes to keep rather than the ''2'' to merge, then, but the rest of those two questions still stands unanswered. Answer them. Please. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 08:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::AfDs are not votes, they are discussions. It lies on the discretion of the administrator to make a suitable judgment in the interest of the encyclopedia. Administrators may be wrong, but there is the [[WP:DRV]] process for that. My reasoning: The participating users did say that they found the subject of the article to be ''notable'', but they did not indicate it in anyway. Have a look at this version of the article &ndash; [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Look_What_I_Brought_Home%21&oldid=106976167]. It explicitly lacks the [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] that would jutify it's inclusion. The keep arguments also explained that ''Keenspot presence is sufficient for notability'', I considered the arguments and observed that there was no ''multiple, non-trivial and independent'' sources on the subject of the article. However, the article could be redirected to the [[Keenspot]] article and the content be merged by the interested editors by substantiating it with appropriate links (probably from the keenspot website). Did I make myself more clear? Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::::I had no objection in principle (based on the AFD) of merging, but the above explanation should have been included in the original closure. What is now clear to me in particular is the reasoning behind your AFD closures in general; it is apparent that you do not believe in the [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] principle of Wikipedia, and will continue to undermine it at every turn if you remain an administrator. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 09:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::An army of numbskulls does not imply consensus. Arguments should be ''within'' the scope of policies and guidelines and only then they are to be considered. Hope you understand. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:49, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::If by "numbskull" you mean "experienced Wikipedia editor," or simply "anybody who disagrees with me on my interpretation of Wikipedia policy," then you will persistently violate [[Wikipedia:Deletion Policy]]. If you apply as a test ''It lies on the discretion of the administrator to make a suitable judgment in the interest of the encyclopedia'' to your decisions rather than ''At the end of the discussion, if a rough consensus for deletion has been reached, the page will be removed per [[Wikipedia:Deletion process]]; otherwise the page remains,'' then you will frequently violate (though, IMO, the decision to close as ''merge'' was not a violation of policy in this case; it was an appropriate closure even if the closure could have used a little more explanation in the AFD itself) the [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion policy]] of Wikipedia. Which I just quoted, and the incompatibility between your idea of policy ("I know what's best for Wikipedia and can freely ignore as many other editors as I like") and policy ("Wikipedia operates by consensus, i.e., agreement between editors.") is going to crop up in numerous closures you make in the future. '''This must change''' if Wikipedia is to have integrity as an online encyclopedia. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 10:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Please don't assume anything on my part. Administrators are administrators for a reason. I do not chose to ignore comments by any editor. I have to reject them when they do not conform with policies. That is how we derieve consensus. [[WP:NOT|Wikipedia is not a Democracy]]. Do you think I was involved in the webcomics saga before closing the few AfDs? In no way did I ''impose'' my will on other users. I interpreted the reasoning and the logic given by what you call "voters" (i.e. participants) and weighed the arguments and then came to a conclusion. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 10:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::::::::I'm not ''assuming'' anything on your part. I've asked for clarifications, and you have provided explanations of your reasoning, which in turn show that you are not following Wikipedia policy in your closures. This is, as I noted in [[The noob]] DRV, not about webcomics, but about [[consensus]]. It has come to my attention as a result of webcomics related AFDs, but I find that your disregard for consensus is not limited to webcomics related AFDs. Deletion policy is explicit as to the role of consensus in AFDs, and also explicit on the very few exceptions to a specific [[rough consensus]] of the editors on the AFD (copyvio, NPOV, and articles that cannot meet [[WP:V]]). Your role, per policy, is not to ''create'' a decision from scratch; your role is to ''interpret'' the consensus of the editors.
 
::::::::I could attack your motivations if you really want, however, taking as a basis your recent votes in webcomic AFDs following the overturn in DRV of your closure of the [[Starslip Crisis]] AFD, but I'm not interested in picking a fight with you. You're starting to act tempermental and defensive about this; don't be. What I'm interested in is simple: Your current and future support for [[consensus]] on Wikipedia, including at a minimum compliance with Wikipedia's existing policies' support of consensus within process. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 11:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
I have clarified my stand, please stop making personal remarks. Another time, we will let users like yourself to close AfDs by ''counting votes'' and let [[WP:CON|consensus]] reign. I am sorry to say, but your actions depict that you are not much knowledgeable with respect to the notability guidelines. Please leave my talk page, I do not wish to continue conversation with you and end up following your circular arguments. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 11:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Graduation afd==
Since you closed [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Graduation (The Suite Life of Zack and Cody episode)]] as delete, can you delete the other 2 eps that were listed with it? --Malevious [[User:Malevious|Userpage]] [[User talk:Malevious|•Talk Page•]] [[Special:Contributions/Malevious|Contributions]] 22:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
::Thanx :) --Malevious [[User:Malevious|Userpage]] [[User talk:Malevious|•Talk Page•]] [[Special:Contributions/Malevious|Contributions]] 15:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Sharas ==
 
If you don't mind, I'd like to add [[:Category:Golden State Warriors players]] to [[Šarūnas Jasikevičius]], or you can do it yourself. I seriously doubt that adding the category for a player's current team could be controversial, but I do want to run it by you. :) — [[User:Dale Arnett|Dale Arnett]] 16:57, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:I have unprotected the page, you should have approached an administrator to do so earlier. You can add the category yourself. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 06:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== "Roiter vandal"? ==
 
G'day. I noted you blocked [[User:Luxor99]] (good job), with the comment "possible roiter vandal". What exactly is a roiter vandal? I can't find the term on WP, nor in my (albeit cursory) Google search, and I'm over 40 and an art student so my leet-speak (if that's what it is) is way below zero.
 
2nd - Should there not be a block tag on his talk page? I was about to reply to him that he ''wasn't'' blocked -- I had left a sweetly-worded warning) -- but on a hunch I checked block logs. Since the templates are "Admin Only", could I trouble you to add one on his page? Tks.
 
3rd - Do you have a shorter nickusername one can employ when addressing you, like "Sir Nick", "Heady", "SNiMP", or do I keep Ctrl-C'ing the page title and Ctrl-V'ing it here, Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington? :)
 
*Thanks. --[[User:SigPig|<span style="color:white; background-color:dimgray">'''Sig'''</span><span style="color:white; background-color:midnightblue">'''Pig '''</span>]]|<sup><font color="blue">[[User talk:SigPig|SEND - OVER]]</font></sup> 22:31, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:Greetings. Roiter vandals are those who leave subtle vandalism on Wikipedia articlespace which is hard to detect. I am not still sure if I am spelling it correctly (Reuter vandal doesn't exist <tt>:P</tt>).
*{{tl|sofixit}} - You can add the template
*I prefer [[Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|Sir Nicholas]]. <tt>:)</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 07:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== [[Islam and slavery]] ==
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Hi Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington,
 
I hope everything is going well with you. I was wondering if you can help with the [[Islam and slavery]] article. As you can see User:Arrow740 is removing a lot of sourced material without discussing them and reaching consensus on the talk page. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_and_slavery&diff=108559574&oldid=108552732]. Just to point to one among many examples is removal of the quote from [[Seyyed Hossein Nasr]]. The user is further edit-warring rather than discussing the points one by one as it is expected from the one who initiates such a removal. IF you are not busy, I would be greatly appreciate if you could help us there. Thanks --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 08:12, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know anything about the subject. If it escalates into an edit-war, please let me know. But please, don't revert [[WP:1RR|more than once in a day]]. And you can call me Nick. Regards, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 08:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:: Hmmm. Thanks anyways Nick! Cheers, --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 08:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::: Aminz is being deceptive. Many of the issues have been discussed at length there and at other articles prior to today and yesterday. Moreover, another user began the removal, and was quite clear in his edit summaries. I largely put his edits back after Aminz's many reverts. In fact I have explained on the talk (for the second and third time in many cases) why I removed what I did. [[User:Arrow740|Arrow740]] 08:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::::See [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]] and [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] with everyone. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 08:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::::: Yes, another user began. It is user KittyHawker and Arrow supported him. Please see User:KittyHawker's contribution[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/KittyHawker]. He usually starts editing an article for the first time and removes lots of stuff. Another example when this user edited [[Jihad]] article:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jihad&diff=108410540&oldid=108270172]. Here is when he touches [[Criticism of the Qur'an]] for the first time [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_the_Qur%27an&diff=106423263&oldid=106417201]. Please note the mass removal of sourced material. The reaons he provides are vague, sometimes strange, edit summaries. --[[User:Aminz|Aminz]] 09:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== [[User:BabyDweezil]] 3RR ==
*I would ask that you look again at the most recent [[WP:3RR]] violation by [[User:BabyDweezil]]. It is a separate instance, in an unrelated article, that does not involve [[WP:BLP]]. [[User:Smeelgova|Smee]] 09:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
:*Nevermind. Thanks for your time. [[User:Smeelgova|Smee]] 09:17, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
::*Eww, I am so sorry. Messed it up. <tt>:P</tt> &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:::*No worries. [[User:Smeelgova|Smee]] 09:29, 17 February 2007 (UTC).
 
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== Re ==
 
Nothing much... Busy with RL these days so editing is greatly reduced... &mdash; [[User:Lostintherush|<font color="olive">'''Lost'''</font>]][[User talk:Lostintherush|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 10:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is failing]]==
 
Why have you protected the deleted page so that no-one can find where the essay is now? [[User:Worldtraveller|Worldtraveller]] 11:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:I did not delete it. But I did protect it to prevent recreation. That seems to have consenus on [[WP:AN]]. Best, &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 11:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not sure I see consensus there at all. Several people are arguing for it to be kept. [[User:Worldtraveller|Worldtraveller]] 11:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
::There is no consensus. ([[User:MichaelJLowe|MichaelJLowe]] 13:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC))
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=={{user|Benjiwolf}}==
Thanks for dealing with this situation; it was getting out of hand. Just dropping a note to let you know s/he is demanding an explanation. Usually I'd just keep moving if the person hasn't added {{tl|unblock}}, but s/he has added a legal threat to the demand as well [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Benjiwolf&diff=prev&oldid=108366303]. On a related note: great work on the 3RR violations. Some won't touch a malformed report; good to see some initiative. '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 17:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 
:Could you please take a look at [[User:Silence-of-the-Wolves|Silence-of-the-Wolves]]. It is an admitted sock of Benjiwolf [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Benjiwolf&diff=109300974&oldid=108981504], and is continuing the same disruption. A [[WP:SSP]] report was filed [[Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Benjiwolf|here]], but I'm afraid we need more immediate attention. Thanks, '''[[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="mediumblue">auburn</font><font color="darkorange">pilot</font>]]''' [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 02:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 
::Blocked indef. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration==
 
I have initiated a [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Nearly Headless Nick disregarding consensus and consensus-related policies]], a matter in which I believe you to have been involved in the case history of. Your commentary may be appreciated. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 13:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for notifying me. But it does not interest me at the moment. Thank you. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 17:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 
::In light of the proper order of steps to take, I have opened [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington (2nd RfC)]], which you should also be informed of. [[User:Balancer|Balancer]] 23:32, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Unblock request on one of your 3RR blocks ==
 
Please comment on the request for unblock at [[User talk:Wjhonson]]. Thanks, [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 00:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:I suppose the block has already expired by now. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 13:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Support==
Hey Nick. I can't say I've looked at much of the details of the recent RFAr's, but I've always considered you a talented and solid administrator and contributor, so I just wanted to offer you my support. Let me know if there's anything I can do. [[User:EWS23|<font color="#0000EE">'''Eric'''</font>]] ([[User talk:EWS23|EWS23]]) 04:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Yo. Thanks. I guess I will '''''[[WP:ROUGE|cabalise with you]]''''' over email. See ya! &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 13:03, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Concern==
Hi Nick
 
I am getting concerned about [[user:Freedom skies]] edits. There are two areas of concern:
 
* S/He has begun to remove material again that I have added to the [[Indian mathematics]] page. At first her/his complaint was that I was adding "Wikiquote material" (perhaps, since I was using "cquote"). I then began to paraphrase the quoted material and s/he complained that I had violated [[WP:NPOV]] and [[WP:NOR]] in my paraphrases. See the discussion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indian_mathematics#Reverts_by_user:Freedom_skies here], where s/he produced some exact quotes (which I had added earlier) and claimed that my paraphrases were not accurate. So, I finally added the exact quotes (that s/he her/himself had quoted on the talk page) [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_mathematics&oldid=109035223#Assessment_of_Mathematics_of_the_Vedic_Period here] in addition to adding some technical material [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_mathematics&oldid=109035223#Baudhayana here] (essentially all the material that doesn't have a "citation needed" tag on it). Well, earlier today s/he made a number of edits, where s/he mostly removed material that was critical of the notion of Vedic mathematics. (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian_mathematics&action=history here]). The material s/he has removed was all sourced and consists of text from articles in internationally known journals or well-known text-books published by Wiley and searchable on Amazon. I have refrained from reverting anything as I had promised you, but I can't prepare the article for the RfC that I am planning on the mathematics portal, if material keeps getting removed. Please advise.
 
* What is troubling me more however, is a post on my talk page earlier today from [[user:IP198]], who says that [[user: Freedom skies]] had stated in her/his edit summaries on some articles that IP198 is a sockpuppet of mine [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hindkowans&action=history here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kashmir_conflict&action=history here]. These are both articles that I have never edited, and hadn't even heard of the first, "Hindokowans." Here are user IP198's posts on my page: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler#WP_Sock InitialPost] and here are: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IP198 my replies] to user IP198. My only contact with user IP198 has been on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Salwar_kameez#Intro Talk: Salwar Kameez] page, where as you can see, we have different points of view. I don't know what game user:Freedom skies has in mind, but he seems to have scared user IP198, who apparently fears getting blocked by Freedom skies! See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Freedom_skies#WP:Sock_.28moving_discussion_on_WP:Sock_from_User_talk:IP198_to_here.29 their discussion here]. As I suggested to user IP198, I am happy to challenge user: Freedom skies or anyone else to a checkuser ID (for me and IP198) and with the condition that the loser in the challenge donate $200 to the Wikimedia foundation! Anyway, please advise. Thanks! [[User:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#B8860B">Fowler&amp;fowler</font>]][[User talk:Fowler&amp;fowler|<font color="#708090">«Talk»</font>]] 21:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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I recommend that a closer look regarding the discussions on [[Talk:Indian mathematics]] is in order. Severe misrepresentations were made by Fowler and he attempted to present those misrepesentations as actual "critisisms." My understanding is that content disputes are resolved before actually being put in the articles in concern; as is being done by me and other editors on [[Talk:Zen]]. Fowler has gone on revert wars and has even indiscriminately removed the citations I procured after hours of research. His purpose of edits and assesments of mathematics are also given on the talk page, which not only is unethical but since it seperates geometry from mathematics, is also flawed. Since he has asked you for advice, I would recommend that you use your position to bring Fowler to the discussion table before he reverts again. His section, as inappropriate as it is, has still been allowed by me to stay in the article for the time being.
 
I have concerns that the user in question may have ben a sockpuppet of Fowler, given the nature of the editor involved it would not be improbable to assume that he would have an alternate account to aviod other users from checking on his contribs. The user IP198 reverted one of my edits to Fowler's version, shows unusual sophestication for a newcomer, has been known to "communicate" with fowler and has edits overlaping with Fowler. I will produce the overlaps on a future probable ocassion and will vigilantly watch for the activities of the editors involved. The response and allegations of the "user" of a "possible grudge" against fowler are also things I find extraordinary. Consider [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Freedom_skies#WP:Sock_.28moving_discussion_on_WP:Sock_from_User_talk:IP198_to_here.29 this section], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:IP198#WP:Sock here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fowler%26fowler#WP_Sock here] for details.
 
I, unlike, fowler and others am not keen on violation of WP ethics. All I ask is that Fowler discusses his edits and answers legitimate concerns before he reverts someone else's hard work.
 
Best Regards,
 
<sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Freedom skies|Freedom skies]]|[[User_talk:Freedom skies|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></sub> 07:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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I have additional concerns regarding Fowler. He has initiated a revert war by maliciously stating that ''"reverting '''freedom skies' bogus reverts'''; have you added anything to this article yet, or do you only know how to revert.?"''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fowler%26fowler] His new confidence may stem from his sucsess in involving a completely unrelated editor to help him out on Indian mathematics. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dbachmann] The new editor has stated things like "oh dear, why cannot '''they''' just leave good enough alone." and "I suggest you sit back and watch F&f's work on the article, and maybe learn something."
 
Fowler's conduct on Indian mathematics has been extraordinary. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indian_mathematics#Reverts_by_user:Freedom_skies] I find this continuation of mailicious agenda surprising. Recruiting muscle to back him up up in revert warring and using semi-abusive online bullying does not amount to fair decent behaviour.
 
Kindly take appropriate action. There is bound to be trouble due to revert warring and semi-abusive bullying by the parties involved.
 
<sub><span style="border:3px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Freedom skies|Freedom skies]]|[[User_talk:Freedom skies|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;">&nbsp;talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></sub> 10:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
===Response by a harried Sir Nicholas===
*I am not getting involved. I barely know anything about the topic.
*I'd rather stick to those topics that are amply covered by sources over the internet.
*Quibbling over hotly contested and disputed topics on Wikipedia, where the sources are not clear and unavailable is a major pain in the ass.
*In case you did not notice, I have a second RfC on me. I guess, I am gaining notoriety faster than [[Darth Vader]] and [[Boba Fett]], (you know what I mean).
*And oh yeah, some one ask that [[User:Dbachmann|dirty rouge admin]] to stop using rollback while reverting contentious edits.
*Chao. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 12:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== A suggestion ==
 
I recommend that when closing AfDs against the numbers you give a better indication of your rationale. Some of these definitely need closing as delete, so it's worth the effort to avoid pain. An extensive rationale can forestall a lot of criticism. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 23:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:[[Battle droid|Roger, roger]]. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 13:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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==Question==
 
Is this a 3RR violation by TJ Spyke: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Short_Sleeve_Sampson&action=history]. All the reverts aren't 100 percent identical, but pretty close. It was reverting vandalism: but he could've easily reported the users instead of turning it into yet another wrestling article edit/revert war. [[User:RobJ1981|RobJ1981]] 05:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Alan.ca ==
 
I appreciate the backup, but I think you might have missed part of the history. The "relist" comment was added by [[User:TigerShark]] while I was in the process of closing the AfD, although TigerShark did not actual relist the AfD other than add the relist comment. I completed the closure without noticing the relist notice. [[User:Alan.ca]] then reopened and relisted the AfD, completing what TigerShark started. Just letting you know since Alan seems intent on pushing this issue that he'll probably not be happy about your comment in light of this. Anyway, thanks all the same. —[[User:Doug Bell|Doug&nbsp;Bell]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Doug Bell|talk]]</sup> 14:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:That's ok. But it is well-within admin discretion to close the AfD if he feels that the community has put in it's opinion. In this case, there was a unanimous call to '''keep''' the article. Even if you ignored the template, no other user should revert back an administrator's edits. We have the [[WP:DRV]] process for that. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 14:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
::Oh I agree, just wanted to give you a heads up of how your comment to him might be taken. —[[User:Doug Bell|Doug&nbsp;Bell]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Doug Bell|talk]]</sup> 14:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Nevermind him. He has been blocked before. Doesn't take anything seriously. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 14:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== about civility ==
 
Hi Nick. Look, I don't want to be a dick about all of this but I do think you're being rude to me for no particular reason. You keep implying that since my RfA failed you understand policy better than I do: this is patently unfair and childish. I was in fact involved in the transformation of [[WP:N]] from an essay to a guideline and I have been one of the main architects of [[WP:BK]]. I've participated in probably hundreds of XfDs and have mostly used detailed constructive arguments to do so. Now we obviously don't quite agree on how policy should be interpreted and that's quite ok. But you should remain civil regardless of these disagreements. Cheers, [[User:Pascal.Tesson|Pascal.Tesson]] 15:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
:Don't spout [[WP:CIVIL]] at users whom you don't agree with. &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 09:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== Active RfC ==
 
I went ahead and weighed in on the active RfC concerning you, and have lent my support as I feel is appropriate. I am glad to see that Wikipedia still has some administrators left who are willing to fight the good fight against [[WP:NOT#DEMOCRACY|mob rule by the masses]] in favor of policy and encyclopedic standards. Be prepared for a rather heated RFC, as some of the people who didn't like your stand against voting blocs, canvassing, and policy-weak arguments will surely show up to accuse you of having some hidden agenda related to the complete abolishment of consensus on Wikipedia; just ignore those kooks - they belong on fan wikis and in chatrooms, and not on a place whose goal is intellectual writing of a meaningful nature. Keep fighting the good fight against fancruft and tribute pages! [[User:NetOracle|NetOracle]] 22:42, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 
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== GamePro ==
 
The ignorance evident in your characterization of this magazine is shameful. Please be more careful in the future when it comes to evaluating sources. [[User:Night Gyr|Night Gyr]] ([[User talk:Night Gyr|talk]]/[[User:Night Gyr/Over|Oy]]) 03:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
:What kind of argument is that? &mdash; [[User talk:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black">Nearly Headless Nick</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington|<font color="black" title="Contributions"><sup>'''{C}'''</sup></font>]] 08:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)