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'''Mental retardation''' IS DANIEL SUBER(also called '''mental handicap'''<ref>[http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40000651/ Mental Handicap] from '''PatientPlus''', Comprehensive, free, up-to-date health information as provided by GPs to patients during consultations. Retrieved 28 June 2006.</ref> and, as defined by the [[United Kingdom|UK]] [[Mental Health Act 1983]], '''mental impairment''' and '''severe mental impairment'''<ref>[http://www.hyperguide.co.uk/mha/s1.htm Scope and Definitions] from '''Nigel Turner's HyperGUIDE to the Mental Health Act.''' Retrieved 28 June 2006.</ref>) is a term for a pattern of persistently slow [[learning]] of basic motor and [[language]] skills ("[[Developmental milestones|milestones]]") during [[childhood]], and a significantly below-normal global [[intelligence (trait)|intellectual capacity]] as an [[adult]]. One common criterion for diagnosis of mental retardation is a tested [[intelligence quotient]] (IQ) of 70 or below.

I like to keep threads of discussion in the same place, so

People with mental retardation are people who are usually described as having [[developmental disabilities]].

* if you post something here, I will typically respond ''here''

* if I posted something on your talk page, I'll await your response there, but feel free to respond here if you wish.

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* [[/Archive 1]] (beginning – [[2007-02-15]])

* [[/Archive 2]] ([[2007-02-16]] – [[2007-03-15]])

* [[/Archive 3]] ([[2007-03-16]] - [[2007-04-30]])

* [[/Archive 4]] ([[2007-05-01]] - [[2007-05-31]])

== removal of my external link ==

==Alternate terms==

The term ''"mental retardation" has gradually acquired pejorative and shameful connotations over the last few decades and is now used almost exclusively in technical or scientific contexts where exactness is necessary.

* In [[North America]] the broad term ''developmental delay'' has become an increasingly preferred synonym by many parents and caregivers. Elsewhere, however, ''developmental delay'' is generally used to imply that appropriate intervention will improve or completely eliminate the condition, allowing for "catching up." Importantly, this term carries the emotionally powerful idea that the individual's current difficulties are likely to be temporary.

* ''Developmental disability'' is preferred by most physicians, but can also refer to any other physical or psychiatric delay, such as [[delayed puberty]].

* Both the phrases ''intellectual disability'' and ''[[learning disability]]'' are increasingly being used as a synonym for people with significantly below-average IQ.<ref>[http://www.mencap.org.uk/ MENCAP]: '''Website of the UKs leading learning disability charity.''' Retrieved 28 June 2006</ref> These terms are sometimes used as a means of separating general intellectual limitations from specific, limited deficits as well as indicating that it is not an emotional or psychological disability. Intellectual disability is also used to describe the outcome of [[traumatic brain injury]] or [[lead poisoning]] or [[dementing]] conditions such as [[Alzheimer's disease]]. It is not specific to congenital conditions like [[Down syndrome]].

Sorry and thanks -- I didn't know the rule, I just saw that there were other similar links (which have probably also been removed!)

The [[American Association on Mental Retardation]] continues to use the term ''mental retardation'' [http://www.aamr.org/Policies/faq_mental_retardation.shtml].

kahooper

: Not a problem, and I hope the quick reaction didn't discourage you from editing here. It's just always a worry that when a new account comes in and starts adding the same link to multiple articles they have no interest in improving the encyclopedia and just want to promote their website. I'll put some useful links on your talk page, I hope you find you like it here and stick around :-) -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 03:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== A Reliable source has been cited, so please don't delete the edits ==

There are many signs. For example, children with developmental disabilities may learn to sit up, to crawl, or to walk later than other children, or they may learn to talk later. Both adults and children with intellectual disabilities may also:

Read the source that I cited. I am not attacking in any way but giving the wikipedia article some balance. There is an alternative view held by a number of people and I was just citing from the article. The author of the article is a Arthur Hu, a very prominent MIT educated intellect with who is a writer for "Asian Week". Besides the article is extremely well researched, very fairly written and thoroughly documented. Please re-read the source at http://www.arthurhu.com/index/matloff.htm

* have trouble speaking,

: After reading the first five paragraphs and skimming the rest, there is no way that is a sufficiently credible source to justify your claim. We should stick to proper sources that are not self-published, e.g., the Salon article and the CNN transcript that are referenced in the article. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 09:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

* find it hard to remember things,

:: By the way, the content already in the article is pretty negatively worded. "opposes increased immigration to fill computer science jobs", "H-1B...harms the prospects of American workers", "opponents are industry leaders in software and related fields" etc, make it sound like he's on some mission to prevent immigrants from obtaining American jobs at the expense of the software industry. The article needs balancing to be written from a [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 09:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

* have trouble understanding social rules,

* have trouble discerning cause and effect,

* have trouble solving problems, and/or

* have trouble thinking [[logic]]ally.

== Porto Page ==

In early childhood mild disability (IQ 60–70) may not be obvious, and may not be diagnosed until they begin school. Even when poor academic performance is recognized, it may take expert assessment to distinguish mild mental disability from [[learning disability]] or behavior problems. As they become adults, many people can live independently and may be considered by others in their community as "slow" rather than "retarded".

Hello!

Moderate disability (IQ 50–60) is nearly always obvious within the first years of life. These people will encounter difficulty in school, at home, and in the community. In many cases they will need to join special, usually separate, classes in school, but they can still progress to become functioning members of society. As adults they may live with their parents, in a supportive group home, or even semi-independently with significant supportive services to help them, for example, manage their finances.

I added a link to the Porto, Portugal page but got a message saying it was a spam link. That was not my intention. It is simply what I find to be one of the most complete tourism guides to that city on the web. I won't try to link to it again, but I leave it up to you to consider adding it. The link I was trying to add is

Among people with intellectual disabilities, only about one in eight will score below 50 on IQ tests. A person with a more severe disability will need more intensive support and supervision his or her entire life.

www . golisbon . com/portugal/cities/porto.html

Thanks!

The limitations of cognitive function will cause a child to learn and develop more slowly than a typical child. Children may take longer to learn to speak, walk, and take care of their personal needs such as dressing or eating. They will have trouble learning in school. Learning will take them longer, require more repetition, and there may be some things they cannot learn. The extent of the limits of learning is a function of the severity of the disability.

sonoflusus

Nevertheless, every child is able to learn, develop, and grow to some extent. The capacity to experience joy and human relationships is not IQ-dependent.

: Thanks for your message. Per [[WP:EL]], Wikipedia generally doesn't link to such tourism guides; you might want to look into other websites like wikitravel (I can't say I'm familiar with that site's policies though). -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 09:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

==User:24.159.223.134 is vandalizing again==

== Diagnosis ==

Please see [[Attila the Hun]]. This time, he or she left an obscene and inflamatory message in place of the article. Can you please block him or her more permantly? Thanks[[User:LCP|LCP]] 15:44, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

According to the [[Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders|DSM-IV]] ([http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3095.htm]), there are three criteria before a person is considered to have a developmental disability: an [[IQ]] below 70, significant limitations in two or more areas of [[adaptive behavior]] (i.e., ability to function at age level in an ordinary environment), and evidence that the limitations became apparent in [[childhood]].

: Hi LCP, thanks for reporting! I left the IP a warning, we sort of treat IP accounts differently than user accounts because IPs may be shared. Since they haven't had any recent warnings, blocking isn't necessary at this time. For more information, have look at [[WP:BLOCK]] and/or [[WP:VANDALISM]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 15:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== User:203.53.201.12 ==

It is formally diagnosed by professional assessment of ''intelligence'' and ''adaptive behavior''.

This user has vandalised [[All-Australian Team]] in spite of your recent warning re vandalism and many previous blocks. Maybe time for a permanent block? [[User:Grant65|Grant]] | [[User talk:Grant65|Talk]] 10:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

=== IQ below 70 ===

: Thanks for the heads-up, it does seem like that IP is headed in that direction, but the vandalism was quite some time after the warning, and it's a shared IP. We typically block IPs only for vandalism happening right now, except in extreme circumstances. If it starts up again, it will be blocked at that time, but it looks like no action is necessary right now. See [[WP:BLOCK]] and [[WP:VANDALISM]] for more info, if you're curious. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 10:10, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

IQ tests were created as an attempt to measure a person's abilities in several areas, including [[language]], [[numeracy]] and [[problem-solving]]. The average score is 100. People with a score below 75 will often, but not always, have difficulties with daily living skills. Since factors other than mental ability (depression, anxiety, lack of adequate effort, etc.) can yield low IQ scores, it is important for the evaluator to rule them out prior to concluding that measured IQ is "significantly below average".

:: The warning was on May 30. [[User:Grant65|Grant]] | [[User talk:Grant65|Talk]] 16:43, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

==Your Warning==

The following ranges, based on the [[Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale]] (WAIS), are in standard use today:

When I read the warning, I failed to see how removed vandalism was considering vandalism. Be careful with that button.

: Yes, I know. I totally just hit the wrong button trying to warn someone else. I tried to remove the message before you got it, but... too late. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 02:14, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== Where do you live ==

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18g a year editing wiki from googleplex where do you live? I can find out myself.

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: Huh? -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 02:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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|Profound mental retardation ||align="center"| below 20

== Thank You ==

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|Severe mental retardation ||align="center"| 20–34

Thank you for the help. I didn't realize what was going on there (with the Lynchburg Article). Luckily I finally found the mytalk page and read your messages. Sorry for any inconvenience.

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Regards

|Moderate mental retardation ||align="center"| 35–49

[[User:Sankaat|Sankaat]] 03:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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: Responded back at your talk page. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 03:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 1px solid gray;" | I award you this magnificent barnstar for you and your brilliant work reverting vandalism and blocking those whose accounts appear to be used for vandalism only. Well done! <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 12:08, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

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: Thanks! -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 12:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== G-Unit Feuds ==

Hi, Sorry I just found out that they are for that, I thought that by puting them links there wikipedia would translate them.

Thanks

[[User:The-G-Unit-Boss|The-G-Unit-Boss]] 13:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

: No problem at all :-) Hopefully someday they will be translated. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== I goofed ==

I guess I should wake up a little more before I jump into the vandal patrol. I reverted the AIV based on the edit summary of 'ROFL'. Only after getting to his talk page did I see that the other editor was in fact an admin. [[User:DarkAudit|DarkAudit]] 15:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

: No worries :-) -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 15:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== I'm sorry ==

But he said some nasty things to me online. I didn't know how else I could get back at him.

== [[User:69.248.106.55]] vandalism at [[North Carolina]] ==

Thanks for reverting, but the user is persistent at vandalising by blanking. --[[User:Javit|Javit]] 18:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

: Looks like it's been taken care of. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 18:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

== User 194.169.192.106 ==

Hello, I am turning to you because you have already blocked this IP for vandalism. It is being used by blocked vandal and copyright violator Cpzphantom. This person (using this IP) has left me a rather offensive and out of line comment on my user talk page. I would appreciate if this IP can be blocked for editing on the grounds of it being used by a blocked user for anonymous vandalism. If you need further evidence, see the contributions made by this IP.

This blocked user is also using a sockpuppet account under the name "Langosto". I appreciate your help in investigating and blocking these accounts.--[[User:Schonbrunn|Schonbrunn]] 19:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

: Hey, Langosto was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Langosto already blocked]. As for the IP, it appears from its contributions that it is a shared address, so I can't really block it indefinitely. If that IP persists in making Cpzphantom-like edits, it should be temporarily blocked, but right now it looks like an isolated incident. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks for your help. This user has left me another message in my talk page using the same IP. I believe it should be blocked. Also, he has been trynig to get around the block with this other IP: 64.72.126.134 Once again, I appreciate your help--[[User:Schonbrunn|Schonbrunn]] 21:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

::: Looks like Yamla has blocked them: <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><!--

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--></span>. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

== [[Apollo (MP3 player)]] ==

I have removed the {{tl|prod}} tag from [[Apollo (MP3 player)]], which you proposed for deletion, because its deletion has previously been contested or viewed as controversial. [[Wikipedia:Proposed deletion|Proposed deletion]] is not for controversial deletions. For this reason, it is best not to propose deletion of articles that have previously been de-{{tl|prod}}ed, even by the article creator, or which have previously been listed on [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{tl|prod}} template back to the article, but feel free to list it at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion]]. Thanks! <!-- [[Template:Deprod-reprod]] --> [[User:Od Mishehu|Od]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Mishehu]] 08:37, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

: Hi Mishehu, that was me mass reverting an IP that was removing prod/notability/afd tags at a rapid pace before proceeding to vandalize the main page featured article. Thanks for the heads-up though. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 12:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

::Feel free to restore all such tags except for prod. Even bad-faith removal of prod tags is enough to prevent prodding - as long as it isn't clear that the editor wan't trying to stop the prod process. [[User:Od Mishehu|Od]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Mishehu]] 12:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

::: Er, even when he's massively making arbitrary changes to articles? I don't see why we have to view that as a legitimate contesting of the tag; it seems like that would fall under the same category as page blanking or vandalism overwriting the tag. I didn't even feel the need to review all of his changes individually. In any case, I don't quite care if that article stays or goes, and I thank you for checking up on it. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Look i'm really sorry i'm new to wikipedia and didn't understand. I keep mistaking the sandbox 4 real things.

== Thanks ==

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page and blocking the vandal. =) "terrets", uh huh... -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] 17:07, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

: Hehe, no problem. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 17:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Hello ==

I would like to know why you keep removing my article about "Dane Olson" when sufficient information is provided.

[[User:Dane Unleashed|Dane Unleashed]] 12:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

: All you have to do is read [[User talk:Dane Unleashed|your talk page]], which you blanked out. The article does not assert the notability of the person. This makes it eligible for [[WP:CSD#A7|speedy deletion]], as you have been told many times before. Attacking someone with a keyboard does not make you [[WP:N|notable]]. Please carefully read your talk page and especially our [[WP:CSD|criteria for speedy deletion]] before attempting to recreate that article. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I just started editing today. I didn't mean to erase the talk page. I didn't know what it was. Anyways, I see articles about professional gamers on here, and professionals in other fields. Why is Dane Olson being omitted from the internets? That was only listed in the article because it became an internet meme. Wikipedia has many of those on here as well. I don't know what's going on. ;( [[User:Dane Unleashed|Dane Unleashed]] 13:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

: The other articles, presumably, are about gamers who have received [[WP:N|significant coverage in reliable sources independent of themselves]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks for the comments on Altaf Hussain ==

It's all due to to his party's spacious role in recent events in Pakistan.Pl revert these kind of edits as the language used is not appropriate.Although, in example you gave, the vandalism was based on facts but after all it's vandalism.you can't left it alone as it is.We will look into the matter.Pl continue to patrol as it quite necessary. Thanks .[[User talk:Yousaf465]]

: Great, I appreciate the reply. Thanks! -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 17:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Thanks very much for reverting vandalism on my userpage! Much appreciated. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif">[[User:Lradrama|<span style="color:red">Lra</span>]][[User talk:Lradrama|drama]]</span> 08:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

: No problem. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 12:37, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== 141.150 ==

Please assist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Midway&oldid=136577504

Contains a vandalous (now, is that a word?) edit by

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:141.150.184.139

Whom you have given a final warning already.

: User has already been blocked, thanks for reporting. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 13:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Removal of my external link ==

We added the external link there is because we receive 30-50 questions per month from our site visitors who are unclear of certain definitions - so we thought it would be helpful since it is matter-of-fact and not a promotion. Also, the articles submitted are written by respected authors in the field and the fact that they are on a comercial site does not detract from their usefulness.

: Adding a link to your own website is promotional [[WP:SPAM|spam]] and a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]]. Please review Wikipedia's guidelines on [[WP:EL|external links]] and note that Wikipedia is [[WP#NOT|not a directory of links]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 17:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== Simon & Schuster ==

Hey, did [[User:Gbooks24]] claim to be an employee of Simon & Schuster? If so, please take a look at [[User:KatieSimon]], which is either the same person or someone sitting next to her, as she also posted a lot of articles about Simon & Schuster authors today, all copyvios. Looks like we have a concerted effort by a major company to spam the heck out of WP. This should probably be referred elsewhere for action. --[[User:Butseriouslyfolks|Butseriouslyfolks]] 19:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

: Yow. Yes, in one of the deleted talk pages, Gbooks24 claimed to be in the marketing dept of Simon & Schuster. If they continue, a report at [[WP:COIN]] would be appropriate, but I think (hope) they may have stopped. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

== You deserve a cookie ==

{{WikiCookie|Thanks for taking action against spammers! [[User:Buddhipriya|Buddhipriya]] 20:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)}}

== Trying to contribute ==

Hi, I am trying to contribute to Wikipedia, "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" but when I try to add a useful website under the External Links area, some guy named Derek Balsam is taking it off and accusing me of being a spammer. If the website I was adding the external link to wasn't useful or didn't have great information that wasn't already on the Wiki page, then I could understand how that could be construed as spam...however the website does indeed have useful information on it and information that is not already on the Wiki website, and therefore I would think be useful to people looking for that information. So I would ask that the external link to the website be kept on for the benefit of the Wiki users.

: I will answer this. Your link is an advertising link and those links are not allowed on wikipedia. If you add it again, you will be blocked for spamming and your website blacklisted. [[User:Momusufan|Momusufan]] 19:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:: (Edit conflict) Please review our guidelines on [[WP:EL|external links]] and [[WP:SPAM|spam]]. You are adding a link which is primarily intended to sell property, and, not only that, as far as I can tell is just a relisting of craigslist, which is not a reliable source of information. It is blatant promotional spam, please stop adding these links. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks, [[User:Momusufan|Momusufan]] and [[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]]. [[User:Derek Balsam|Derek Balsam]]^{[[User talk:Derek Balsam|(talk)]]} 19:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

== Captain140 Vandal ==

I stepped on your toes after you restored [[User:Matticus78]]. It's been fixed. Apologies.

--[[User:KNHaw|<font face="comic sans ms"><font color="SeaGreen"><i><b>KNHaw</b></i></font></font>]] <font color="SeaGreen">[[User talk:KNHaw|^(talk)]]</font> 01:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

: No worries, happens all the time. Good thing it's a wiki! -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 01:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Philadelphia Center for a Greater Cause ==

I think the article should be kept or at least placed into a subarticle. This is the first and one of the most popular student-run charity organization in South Philadelphia.

: It will need to satisfy Wikipedia's [[WP:N|notability guidelines]]. Are there any independent, reliable sources that talk about it in more than a passing manner? -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 06:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

My friend sent me the citation of this one article: Alison Gendar, “Children Helping Children," The Daily News October 28, 2005.

It's a short article about the rise in popularity of PCGC among students.

: Hm, I'm not sure that would be enough. There needs to be significant and deep coverage about the organization. My feeling is that the organization is not quite notable enough, since [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22Philadelphia+Center+for+a+Greater+Cause%22&btnG=Search Google gives no hits]. I would recommend doing more research and trying to find more coverage. If you recreate the article, be sure to include your citations, and make them specific enough so that fact checkers can verify them (it's not clear what ''Daily News'' refers to). I cannot guarantee the article would survive an [[WP:AfD|articles for deletion]] discussion, so be sure you understand the notability guidelines. Thanks. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 06:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Reverting ==

Hi there! Thank you for reverting scribble on my user page. [[User:Antique Rose|Antique Rose]] 08:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Tussi ==

who are you? why do you think i said was incorrect information? isnt bruce almighty the inspiration behind god tussi great ho? and this inspiration was reported by movie masala programme of indian news channel "aaj tak". dont be so absurd.this way no one will be able to edit wikipedia. why cant you just not do any such sorry things? real indian movie fans will recognize if i am right or wrong , if necessary they will delete my edit. what do you know of indian movies?

: If you want to add something, you must back up your claim by citing a reliable source, per Wikipedia's [[WP:V|verifiability policy]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Admin contact for repeat vandalism ==

I keep crossing paths with you while I'm patrolling recent changes. I do not use bots to detect and revert vandalism, I think that the bots lack a human touch and fail to notice things that I do when I'm watching and editing manually. My question for you is - Seeing that you seem to always be on hand at the same times I am, would you object to me using you as a contact to route incidents of multiple vandalisms by the same IP address?

I could use some help when I get into edit wars with a vandal that reverts the reverts of my reverts of his reverts.....etc.... :) It gets old after I remove the same vandalism the fifth or sixth time. [[User:Trusilver|Trusilver]] 20:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

: Hi Trusilver. I'm not sure what exactly you are proposing here. If a vandal is persistent (5 or 6 times is more than proof of that!) and has been given ample warnings, you can report to [[WP:AIV]] for an administrator to block the user. It's probably more efficient to report there instead of to me, since many admins watch that page. See [[Wikipedia:Guide to administrator intervention against vandalism]] for more information. I hope this helps, please let me know if this doesn't answer your question or if I can be of any more assistance :-) -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 21:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::Okay, I'll try that. I'm new to this whole vandalism repair thing... I'm used to being a copyeditor, not a police officer. Thank you for your assistance. [[User:Trusilver|Trusilver]] 21:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::: No problem. I just had another look at your contribs. You should consider [[WP:WARN|warning]] vandals, since admins generally do not block users who haven't been warned. But it is kind of tedious to do so manually, so you might want to at least give the [[WP:RCP|anti-vandal tools]] a try. My understanding is that some are more automated than others. I think that [[WP:TWINKLE|Twinkle]], for example, allows you to revert and/or warn with a single click, but it's completely unautomated... just saves you keystrokes. I haven't actually used these tools myself, though, I have some (pretty crude) custom software that allows me to monitor recent changes and warn with a single click. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 21:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Thank you for the suggestion. I'm going to take it on a trial run tonight and see if it agrees with me. That will help a lot especially in the middle of the night when I seem to be reverting a vandalism every ninety seconds or so. [[User:Trusilver|Trusilver]] 21:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Admin IRC channel ==

Hi, per your request on [[Wikipedia:IRC channels/wikipedia-en-admins|this page]], you've been added to the access list for the admin channel. If you have any problems, PM me on IRC. Regards, '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 23:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

: Great, thanks! -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 23:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

== Removal ==

You just removed an edit of mine. Paris Hilton is a fucking hott woman sir.

: Your edit violates Wikipedia's policies on [[WP:NPOV|neutral point of view]] and [[WP:V|verifiability]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:23, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Sir, but don't you agree?

== Tennis vandalism? ==

Please explain how I vandalised the Tennis page. Tennis experiences ALOT of criticism.

: Same reason as your Paris Hilton. Stop adding your own opinion into articles, or you will be blocked. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Sir, many ESPN articles have expressed such dislike for Tennis. Shall I add that to the Tennis page to please you?

: Try explaining what you want to do on [[Talk:Tennis]]. Your edits seem to suggest you do not fully understand Wikipedia's policies, and your edits to the article would likely be reverted. Please review [[WP:V]] and [[WP:NPOV]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Alright I did that.

== wet jamal ==

not sure why it was termed 'nonsense' and deleted, especially given the fact that this site contains references to school pranks such as wedgies and wet willys. your wiki-arrogance is not appreciated.

: Mostly because of the silly claims about it being invented by someone in some city. If there are independent, reliable sources about it, it can possibly be added somewhere to Wikipedia. But [[WP:NFT|Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 20:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

== Browser Games ==

In the [[Browser game]] article, I added information about PBBGs as that is the name that I and many others use. Whether you think the [[PBBG]] page is appropriate or not is up to you, but the page ''is'' up on wikipedia, and it is very useful for game designers such as myself to differentiate a PBBG from a MMORPG. If you believe this is an advertising effort on the behalf of a single person, you should probably check the forums (pbbgdev.com) where it's clear that the game designers (myself included) find the term useful, and the admin who created the PBBG acronym is neither using the site to sell ads nor even promote his own external sites.

Yes, it's a new term, but it's being used by more people than just the creator. And its inclusion in wikipedia even after the controversy suggested to me that it was "okay" to link internally to the wikipedia page. Note that my link was not to the external site, nor to anything even remotely affiliated with my own work.

I don't understand the animosity toward forming a clear term for a specific subset of browser games.

--[[User:Nerdmaster]]

: While it may be a useful term, there is no evidence that it is a [[WP:N|notable]] one, in that no independent, reliable sources have been mentioned that discuss the term in detail. Wikipedia does sort of tend to lag behind the "cutting-edge" of new terms; we do not cover subjects that have not already been covered in reputable secondary sources. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to promote or form new terms, movements, etc. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 00:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: What exactly is needed for this term to be considered notable? There are multiple independent developers who have written blogs about PBBGs today, a small but active community on the forums I mentioned above, and an entry in acronymfinder.com. The free advertising offer that led to many games using PBBG on their game's home page did not cause people to adopt the term in their blogs, nor did it influence acronymfinder.com to my knowledge. The activity on the forums may be only limited evidence of notability by itself, but the fact that we all constantly use the term when referring to our games should be pretty substantial.

::I'll admit the first time the PBBG page showed up on wikipedia it probably was an advertising effort, though I think it was never a plan to be spammy - the site just isn't about that, it's about separating our work from other games. I think it could have been done more tactfully, and Aaron (the originator) ''really'' should have waited more than 2 weeks after coining the term to put up a page here, but I don't believe he meant to be spammy. Spammy people don't have ad-free websites and forums. Spammy people stand to make some kind of financial gain from their work, but I don't see how Aaron could be doing that. He doesn't advertise his own stuff on the main pbbg site. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Nerdmaster|Nerdmaster]] ([[User talk:Nerdmaster|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nerdmaster|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

::: What is needed is ''significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources''. Things like newspapers, magazines, websites independent of the PBBG movement that have discussed it in detail. I do not deny there is an active PPBG community, but it appears the term has not yet passed the notability and verifiability guidelines of Wikipedia. We document things that have already been covered in secondary sources; we are not first-movers with respect to breaking news. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 08:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:::: I am baffled once more. My website is 100% independent of the PBBG movement. My first browser-based game was a madlibs game launched in 1998, well before the PBBG movement was even an idea. My next games were java applets, rated highly by jars.com, released around 2000 or 2001, also well before the PBBG movement. My site is small, and has a small user base, but it has kept a steady stream of users coming back. That should certainly lend me a ''little'' credibility. I am '''exactly''' what you say is missing - an independent source. My reliability should be determined by the fact that my site, amateur though it is, has been around since 1998 in one form or another. It has been a site where I built simple games for others to play. My first PBBG was written around 2003, over ''three years'' before the term was coined. How does my site not qualify as a reliable, independent source? I did not start the movement for the PBBG term, I simply jumped on board when I heard about it and decided it made sense.

:::: And how is acronymfinder.com not a reliable source? And for what it's worth, a few months ago google stopped trying to correct PBBG to "pcug". That should say something for the term's independent validity - Aaron himself couldn't possibly have put up enough content in six months to cause google to make that exception.

:::: If my site, and other independent game developers' sites, are not valid independent sources, then it's clear to me that by "independent, reliable sources", what you mean is sources that ''you'' deem worthy. How is it there are pages promoting individual PBBGs, such as [[BattleKnight]]? What "independent, reliable source" made the [[List_of_browser_games]] page notable? Seems to me like a collection of free advertising for games that the wikipedian moderators must like, because they chose to "look the other way" and ignore the clear fact that a game advertisement has no place here. Yet they will bring down a page they don't like, even one that's clearly based on dozens of independent sources. I can't help but feel this is part of a grudge against the original article, because searching google should make it very clear that the term is now in use on hundreds of independent pages - blogs, games, "top site" lists, and even a few forums not created by Aaron. ''Each and every one'' of these sites that are not pbbg.com or pbbgdev.com are not associated with Aaron's original movement and should be considered independent. [[User:Nerdmaster|Nerdmaster]] 15:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

::::: By websites independent of the PBBG movement, I meant websites that are not just operated by game developers, but reputable publishers of reliable information like, say, [[Salon.com]] or [[Slate (magazine)|Slate]]. You need someone other than PBBG game developers and players finding it notable enough to write about, and a significant amount of coverage. acronymfinder would be considered an independent source, but it's unclear how reliable a source it is, since it is somewhat user-generated, and the entire coverage—a mere definition of the acronym—is too weak for inclusion here.

::::: The consensus at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PBBG]] was unanimous and strong. If you have some significant new information pertaining to the debate that was not available during the debate, you can try [[Wikipedia:Deletion review]]. Or, create a new PBBG article solidly grounded with independent, reliable sources and substantially different than the first PBBG article, so that it would survive a second deletion discussion. You might also try [[Wiktionary]], as the criteria for inclusion there appears to be lower than here, and PBBG may be accepted. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 18:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

:: You probably work a lot on wikipedia but this doesn't make you god. It's an open project as far as I know and you can say it's not notable to if there are tens of other people who find the project a notable one. Wikipedia is about sharing knowlegde and the PBBG article is about that to: making a interesting definition known. Wikipedia is more than an encyclopedia the way you use it. You're so kind to delete other ppls work, but how many knowledge did you <b>add</b> to wiki? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:User:Octavian Susnea|User:Octavian Susnea]] ([[User talk:User:Octavian Susnea|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/User:Octavian Susnea|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

::: The concept of "notability" is not subjective on Wikipedia. There are plenty of things I find notable that are not on Wikipedia. This is because there is not [[WP:N|significant coverage in independent, reliable sources]] about them. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 08:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== PBBG Deletion ==

Why did you delete the whole article. It took me one hour yesterday to writ it down. If you consider there are things missing or faults (that would surprise me) edit it. Don't you have respect for other peoples work? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Octavian Susnea|Octavian Susnea]] ([[User talk:Octavian Susnea|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Octavian Susnea|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

: There was nothing added to address the concerns in [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PBBG]]. I'm sounding like a broken record, but the best way to ensure your article does not get deleted is by referencing independent, reliable sources about the subject. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 08:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

==[[user:Chicago-joes...POPCORN!!!|Chicago-joes...POPCORN!!! ]]==

A user by this name has gone on my talkpage and put a sign saying i have been banned indefinetly for using my username only for vandelism. He's a vandal who put it on with your name. Is that some kind of bannning of warning offence???[[User:Dino-crisis|DC]]

:Here it is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADino-Crisis&diff=138346688&oldid=138136918 here.]

He also did the same thing on [[User:Sexmeere|Sexmeere's talk page]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASexmeere&diff=138346998&oldid=138114535 here]

== Deleted Page ==

Dear SpuriousQ -

Hello. I apologize for my newbie question... An entry that I had built/modified (Sixteen (card game)) was deleted, and the reason given was "Blatant Copyright Infringement." This is puzzling to me, as I posted the page, and I am the designer and copyright holder of the game. I believe that the entry was done in an informative and non-promotional manner. If you can please give me some insight on how to get the entry re-listed and/or how I can design the entry in a more acceptable manner, I'd be grateful. Thanks much!

Kris

: Hi Kris. The content was vastly copied from http://www.alpinegames.net/graphics/Sixteen%20Instructions_en.pdf, and there was no indication on that site that the content was licensed under a [[GFDL]]-compatible license. Please note that by contributing content to Wikipedia, you agree to license those contributions under the GFDL, so that article could not have remained if you wanted to be copyright holder of those instructions. Please refer to [[WP:C]] for more information.

: Another issue is that it wasn't clear whether the game was [[WP:N|notable]]. You should read those guidelines and ensure that the article you create satisfies them. Basically, draw from independent, reliable sources, and don't make it a mere [[WP:NOT#HOWTO|howto]] guide for the game. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

== Wiki ==

There's another user harassing me, is there anything I can do?

[[User:Haelstrom]]

: What's going on? -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 19:59, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I was going around to different sports figure's articles updating them (they are prone to having "current events" so I see Theodoros Plakadopoulos (His name when he thought he could succeed without his father's help) and it said <br />

A)he still played basketball<br />

B)he had the euroleague record for steal,<br />

but of course, he is human garbage, <br />

A)can't play ball<br />

B)has the greek '''junior league''' record for steals<br />

<br />

I thought the only reason it was scheduled for deletion was because of the lack of third party articles, so I fixed the name, redirected and added the deletion tag to the new article

'''I figured it should at least get deleted for the right reason'''

I explained that to RandomHumanoid and he went nuts on me.

He claimed my explanation was vandalism and said "There's nothing more to say about it."

Then I said I'll read the civility article if he would admit "There's nothing more to say about it." is the most ignorant thing a person can say.

And once again he claimed vandalism.

: It looks like the drama is over, just let it go. You may have gone overboard with headlines like "#($*@#(" and "people that have b*ners for me". Try to keep [[WP:CIVIL]] in mind when you edit here. You are entitled to remove the vandalism warnings on your talk page if you wish. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 20:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== altaf hussain ==

Why do you think this is inappropriate, he is obviously so damn happy over killing the pathans etc

: "Altaf Hussain congradulating Israt-ul-Ibad on the killing of innocent people..."??? I don't see any congratulatory gestures in that photo. We must adhere to a neutral, encyclopedic point of view, no matter who the article is about. Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT#SOAPBOAX|not a soapbox]]. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 02:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Unintentional edit on Reversion article ==

=== Significant limitations in two or more areas of adaptive behavior ===

Completely unintentional. I honestly did not even remember clicking "edit". I'm new so I was reading about reverts. Sorry for the confusion --[[User:CommonSense101|CommonSense101]] 08:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Adaptive behavior, or adaptive functioning, refers to the skills needed to live independently (or at the minimally acceptable level for age). To assess adaptive behavior, professionals compare the functional abilities of a child to those of other children of similar age. To measure adaptive behavior, professionals use instruments that are actually structured interviews, with which they systematically elicit information about the person's functioning in the community from someone that knows them well. There are many adaptive behavior scales, and accurate assessment of the quality of someone's adaptive behavior requires clinical judgment as well. Certain skills are important to adaptive behavior, such as:

: OK, no worries, I figured that was what had happened. [[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 08:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

== Neelbaruah ==

* [[daily living skills]], such as getting dressed, using the bathroom, and feeding oneself;

<math><math>Insert formula here</math></math>

* [[communication]] skills, such as understanding what is said and being able to answer;

: :-) -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 10:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

* [[social skills]] with peers, [[family]] members, spouses, adults, and others.

== Tebalism ==

===Evidence that the limitations became apparent in childhood===

This third condition is used to distinguish it from [[dementing]] conditions such as [[Alzheimer's disease]] or is due to traumatic injuries that damaged the brain.

It is a valid religion. Please stop deleting?

== Causes ==

: I'm pretty sure you realize this, but Wikipedia is not for [[WP:NFT|things that a few people made up]]. If it really is a notable religion, please provide [[WP:N|independent, reliable sources]] to prove it. Thanks. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 10:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[[Down syndrome]], [[Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder|fetal alcohol syndrome]] and [[Fragile X syndrome]] are the three most common inborn causes. However, doctors have found many other causes.The most common are:

The last time I edited it I added a link to a website called Tebalism. Is that not proof enough?

* Genetic conditions. Sometimes disability is caused by abnormal genes inherited from parents, errors when genes combine, or other reasons. Examples of genetic conditions include [[Down syndrome]], [[Fragile X syndrome]], and [[phenylketonuria]] (PKU).

: No. "independent" means outside the Tebalism "movement". -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 11:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

* Problems during pregnancy. Mental disability can result when the [[fetus]] does not develop inside the mother properly. For example, there may be a problem with the way the fetus's cells divide as it grows. A woman who drinks alcohol (see [[Fetal alcohol spectrum disorder|fetal alcohol syndrome]]) or gets an infection like [[rubella]] during pregnancy may also have a baby with mental disability.

* Problems at birth. If a baby has problems during labor and birth, such as not getting enough oxygen, he or she may have developmental disability due to brain damage.

* Health problems. Diseases like [[whooping cough]], [[measles]], or [[meningitis]] can cause mental disability. It can also be caused by extreme [[malnutrition]], not getting enough medical care, or by being exposed to [[poison]]s like [[lead]] or [[Mercury (element)|mercury]].

* [[Iodine]] deficiency is the leading preventable cause of mental disability in areas of the developing world where iodine deficiency is endemic.

* The use of [[forceps]] during birth can <!--often--> lead to mental retardation in an otherwise normal child. They can fracture the skull and cause brain damage.

* [[Institutionalisation]] at a young age can cause mental retardation in normal children.

* [[Sensory deprivation]] in the form of severe environmental restrictions (such as being locked in a basement), prolonged isolation, or severe atypical parent-child interactions.

* Psycho-social disadvantage. Contributing factors are lack of reading material, use of language not common in that community, poor diet, poor health practices, and poor housing. {{fact}}

How about a website that talks about the historical persian satrap Tabalus who discovered the ruins?

==Treatment and assistance==

: Please read [[WP:N]] and [[WP:V]] for a better idea of what subjects are appropriate for inclusion on Wikipedia. I'm quite certain Tebalism isn't one of them. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 12:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

By most definitions it is more accurately considered a ''disability'' rather than a ''disease''. It can be distinguished in many ways from [[mental illness]], such as [[schizophrenia]] or [[Clinical depression|depression]]. There is no "cure" for an established disability, though with appropriate support and teaching, most individuals can learn to do many things.

== Semi-Protection ==

There are thousands of agencies in the United States that provide assistance for people with developmental disabilities. They include state-run, for-profit, and non-profit, privately run agencies. Within one agency there could be departments that include fully staffed residential homes, day habilitation programs that approximate schools, workshops wherein people with disabilities can obtain jobs, programs that assist people with developmental disabilities in obtaining jobs in the community, programs that provide support for people with developmental disabilities who have their own apartments, programs that assist them with raising their children, and many more. The [[Burton Blatt Institute]] at [[Syracuse University]] works to advance the civic, economic, and social participation of people with disabilities. There are also many agencies and programs for parents of children with developmental disabilities.

What is the correct tag to request semi-protection on the article [[Router]]? There was an expert tag request so I have been fixing it. I do not know how all this mis-information was placed into this article or why it was not discovered. I just thought it would be a good idea to permanently be semi-protected.

Although there is no specific medication for "mental retardation", many people with developmental disabilities have further medical complications and may take several medications. Beyond that there are specific programs that people with developmental disabilities can take part in wherein they learn basic life skills. These "goals" may take a much longer amount of time for them to accomplish, but the ultimate goal is independence. This may be anything from independence in tooth brushing to an independent residence. People with developmental disabilities learn throughout their lives and can obtain many new skills even late in life with the help of their families, caregivers, clinicians and the people who coordinate the efforts of all of these people.

Please let me know.

==Traditional terms==

Several traditional terms denoting varying degrees of mental deficiency long predate [[psychiatry]], but have since been subject to the [[euphemism treadmill]]. In common usage they are simple forms of abuse. Their now-obsolete use as psychiatric technical definitions is of purely historical interest. There have been some efforts made among mental health professionals to discourage use of these terms, but as long as intelligence is seen to contribute to social and financial success, children will use any term they believe to mean "stupid" as an insult. In addition to the terms below, the abbreviation ''retard'' or ''tard'' is still used as a generic insult, especially among children and teens.

Thanks!

*'''[[Cretinism|Cretin]]''' is the oldest and probably comes from an old French word for Christian. The implication was that people with significant intellectual or developmental disabilities were "still human" (or "still Christian") and deserved to be treated with basic human dignity. This term has not been used in any serious or scientific endeavor since the middle of the 20th century and is now always considered a term of abuse.

*'''[[Idiot]]''' indicated the greatest degree of intellectual disability, where the [[mental age]] is two years or less, and the person cannot guard himself or herself against common physical dangers. The term was gradually replaced by the term '''profound mental retardation'''.

*'''Imbecile''' indicated an intellectual disability less extreme than idiocy and not necessarily inherited. It is now usually subdivided into two categories, known as '''severe mental retardation''' and '''moderate mental retardation'''.

*'''[[Moron (psychology)|Moron]]''' was defined by the American Association for the Study of the [[Feeble-minded]] in [[1910]], following work by [[Henry H. Goddard]], as the term for an [[adult]] with a [[mental age]] between eight and twelve; '''mild mental retardation''' is now the term for this condition. Alternative definitions of these terms based on IQ were also used.

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==References==

: Going to [[WP:RFPP]], as you did, is the correct method. However, semi-protection is not applied in cases like this, since the edits from IPs were not blatant vandalism and furthermore there is relatively little activity right now. Semi-protection is, generally, a protective measure for articles that are getting hit constantly with vandalism from IPs. -[[User:SpuriousQ|SpuriousQ]] ([[User talk:SpuriousQ|talk]]) 00:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Answering your Q ==

==External links==

*[http://www.saunalahti.fi/kup/engl/finmr.htm Mental Retardation in Finland - Kehitysvammahuollon tietopankki]

*[http://www.thearc.org/ Association for Retarded Citizens]

*[http://www.hyperguide.co.uk/mha/contents.htm Nigel Turner's HyperGUIDE to the Mental Health Act]

*[http://www.specialneedsnurse.org Information, links, support, active bulletin board etc. on developmental disabilities. For teachers, nurses and parents alike. 47 plus pages of comprehensive information.]

Hi SpuriousQ!

[[Category:Childhood psychiatric disorders]]

[[Category:Disability]]

I think it is well written, although as you mention, it has no hard proof - like archaeological findings etc. Non-the-less, please note it is not improbable either.

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And, yes, it mentions one website. However, is it not possible for any others to add their link? the mentioned website is related and offers valuable insight and tutorials on the topic.

should i add other sites with products or info for haircutting?

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