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===[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Sanchom|Sanchom]]===
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fullname = Torino Football Club SpA |
nickname = ''Granata'' (Maroons),<br /> ''Il Toro'' (The Bull)|
founded = [[1906]] |
ground = [[Stadio Olimpico di Torino]]/<br />[[Stadio delle Alpi]],<br />[[Turin]], [[Italy]] |
capacity = 27,168 |
chairman = {{flagicon|Italy}} [[Urbano Cairo]] |
mgrtitle = Head Coach |
manager = {{flagicon|Italy}} [[Walter Novellino]] |
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'''Torino Football Club''' is one of the most popular [[Italy|Italian]] [[football (soccer)|football]] clubs, based in [[Turin]]. Torino are nicknamed 'I Granata' (the Maroons) from the color of the team shirts, or 'Il Toro' (the Bull), an abbreviation of the team name which refers to both the ''Toro Rampante'' (Prancing Bull), the emblem of the city of Turin and a distinctive feature of the team's iconography since its inception, and to the city name of Turin in [[Italian language|Italian]] language. The club was known as ''A.C. Torino'' until [[1970]], and as ''Torino Calcio'' from 1970 to [[2005]].
{{User|Sanchom}} - Me :-) A self-nomination.<span style="font: small-caps 1em Optima">[[User_talk:Sanchom|Sancho]]</span> 09:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 
==History==
====Questions for the candidate====
''Football Club Torino'' was founded on [[December 3]] [[1906]] in the Voigt brewery by some [[Juventus]] dissidents seeking independence. Among the founders were Alfredo Dick (from [[Juventus]]), the Swiss businessman Hans Schoenbrod (first chairman), and [[Vittorio Pozzo]] (later manager of the national team). The new club attracted members from the city's other teams and absorbed older local clubs such as ''Internazionale Torino'' (founded in [[1890]]) and ''Unione Sportiva Torinese''.
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. You may wish to answer the following optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
:'''1.''' What admin work do you intend to take part in?
::'''A:''' I will be able to help at [[WP:AIV]], AfD closure, page protection and unprotection, fixing/deleting copyright violations, CSD deletions, and dispute resolution.
 
Torino F.C. took part in the world's first international tournament, [[Torneo Internazionale Stampa Sportiva]] 1908 which was hosted in [[Turin]] itself organised by the Italian magazine [[La Stampa Sportiva]]. Torino lost in the final 3-1 to Swiss side [[Servette F.C.]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.rsssf.com/tabless/stampa1908.html|title=Torneo Internazionale Stampa Sportiva 1908 (Torino)|author=RSSSF|accessdate=2007-06-20}}</ref> In 1909 it was succeeded by the [[Sir Thomas Lipton Trophy]], in which a Torino XI comprised of [[Juventus F.C.|Juve]] and Torino players participated but did not make it to the final.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.rsssf.com/tablesl/lipton-trophy.html|title=Sir Thomas Lipton Trophy (Torino)|author=RSSSF|accessdate=2007-06-20}}</ref>
:'''2.''' What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
::'''A:''' [[San Salvador (Guipúzcoan squadron)]] &mdash; was interesting to research, made it to the front page via DYK, well referenced. [[Royal Canadian Air Cadets]] &mdash; the article that drew me into editing Wikipedia; as a former cadet, I have forced myself to stick to referenced material to avoid bias and asked for reviews of the neutrality; eventually brought it to GA status. [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMoeLarryAndJesus&diff=110019283&oldid=110015448 this edit]] &mdash; this was in the middle of a process of trying to get an editor to work nicely with others, it seemed to work for a short time, but eventually the editor reverted to old form and is now blocked indefinitely :-( ...I think this was a "best" contribution because it was in the midst of a quite contrary tone from the other and it displays a style of approaching an adversarial editor that I think works well.
 
After the early years, Torino were denied their first championship attempt by the outbreak of [[World War I]], and their first title was revoked in [[1926]]/27 due to an irregularity in the match against [[Juventus]]. Torino won its first ''Scudetto'', the Italian [[Serie A]] league Championship, the following [[1927]]/28 season and, between [[1942]]/43 and [[1948]]/49, the "[[Grande Torino]]" (Great Torino), widely considered the best ever team in Italian football history, won five other straight scudetti, led by its captain, [[Valentino Mazzola]].
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
::'''A:''' I don't usually get ''stressed'' over conflicts. I did recently get close, but I stepped away before getting involved further (I was trying to mediate a discussion between two editors in a content dispute). Usually in conflicts, I'll be able to talk with the other editor to find out at what level we disagree, or what policy I've misunderstood, etc...
 
On [[May 4]], [[1949]], all but one player (who was out for an injury) of [[Grande Torino]] were killed when their [[Superga air disaster|plane crashed into the hills of Superga]], on the outskirts of Turin. The club never recovered, and after a decade of mediocre seasons, they were relegated to [[Serie B]] in 1958/59, although they returned to Serie A the following season.
'''Optional Question from [[User:Anonymous Dissident|Anonymous Dissident]]:'''
 
By the early 1960s and until the late 1980s, Torino had good results in [[Serie A]], including another Scudetto in the [[1975]]/76 season. Since the end of the 1980s, the club went up and down between Serie A and [[Serie B]], the top two divisions with little success, except a [[Coppa Italia]] in [[1992]]/93 and a [[Mitropa Cup]] win in [[1990]]/91. Among the best results ever achieved in the club's history, it reached the [[UEFA Cup]] Final in [[1991]]/92 only to lose it in two aggregate matches to [[Ajax Amsterdam]] without being defeated.
:'''4.''' -- The answer to question 1 is always important to me, as it shows how a user will use the mop. Because you were not very indepth in your answer to question 1, could you please run me/us through the process/means of doing/policies related to each of the following:
 
[[Image:Torino_calcio.gif|75px|left|thumb|Old logo for ''Torino Calcio'', used until 2005.]]
1. '''Afd Closure:'''
In [[2004]]/05, Torino finished 3rd in [[Serie B]] and, after winning the playoffs, was promoted back in [[Serie A]]. However, the [[Italian Football Federation|FIGC]], the governing body of Italian football, expelled both Torino Calcio and [[F.C. Messina]] from [[Serie A]], due to both clubs' financial problems. However, while Messina was re-admitted by a civil court of appeal, Torino was not and it was cancelled from the Italian sport panorama.
:'''A:''' I would close an AfD discussion as "delete" only if discussion reaches consensus that the article should be deleted. However, having an overwhelming majority of support for a deletion does not equal consensus in this context... weakly argued support or no-argument support gives less to the end result than does support stemming from policy. As well, somebody contributing late to the discussion might add something, like... "I checked all the sources and they all link to a website saying 'this is a hoax ha ha ha'". Okay, pretty contrived :-) but what I'm saying is basically that it is not a vote, and it could possibly require only one good argument (violation of a core policy) amongst weak or non-arguments to achieve this consensus. If the result is not clear at the end of the discussion (as is the case when people disagree about the significance of the coverage that a subject has received, or differences in interpretation of policy where policy gives room for interpretation), the default is to keep. I did close a couple of AfDs previously, out of process as I later realized since they had only a one or two days of discussion and were not candidates for speedy keep: [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bo_Kaspers_Orkester]], and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infanta Sofía of Spain]]. I was looking for some easy AfDs to close, but couldn't find any that I could close as "keep" in the 5-day backlog (I guess that was why they were not closed already), so I found a couple of ones that looked like obvious keeps to me... I reviewed the arguments and related policy and couldn't see how they would end up being deleted, so I kept them. Since I realized that closing before the 5-day mark required the discussion to meet the "speedy keep" criteria, I haven't closed an AfD discussion. This is one reason why I think the administrator tools could help me. I could contribute to closing the discussions requiring a bit more work than just posting a "kept" message on the article talk page.
 
Thanks to the 'Lodo Petrucci' (Italian law which allows a sport club that is the direct heir of a cancelled one to be re-admitted one division below the previous one), a new club was founded under the current name Torino F.C. and was admitted to play the next season, again in [[Serie B]]. Bought by entrepreneur [[Urbano Cairo]], Torino FC ended its 2005/2006 Serie B campaign in third place, being therefore qualified for the promotion play-offs. Torino subsequently defeated [[A.C. Mantova|Mantova]] in the final to earn promotion to Serie A.
 
Even in its worst seasons, Torino has often achieved good results in epic matches (the so-called "derbies") against the other Turin team, [[Juventus]]. Since 1990 the club has played in the 69,040 capacity [[Stadio Delle Alpi]], shared with [[Juventus]]. Prior to 1990 the clubs shared the Stadio Comunale for thirty years, Torino moving there from the glorious [[Stadio Filadelfia]], home of [[Grande Torino]]. Starting with the 2006/07 season Torino will move into a new, smaller ground of its own, the [[Stadio Grande Torino]] (which is the renewed former stadio comunale). Torino will still use the [[Stadio delle Alpi]] for a number of high profile matches. When playing at home Torino wears a maroon top and white shorts (sometimes is full maroon) but when playing else where the team wears all white. When practicing Torino wears red and white or red and black.
 
[[Image:Grande Torino scan.jpg|thumb|270px|A lineup of the Grande Torino.]]
 
==Il Grande Torino==
2. '''Page protection/unprotection:'''
[[Grande Torino]] ("The Great Torino") is the name by which the [[Torino F.C.]] team of the 1940s is popularly known in [[Italy]]. Torino F.C. set many important records of [[Italy|Italian]] [[football (soccer)|football]], all of which still stand today.
:<b>A:<b> Wikipedia is a place where "anyone can edit". We should apply the least restrictive protection that allows the article to be useful to readers and editors. That basically says it all, but I'll give a couple of concrete examples. When vandalism reaches a point such that the article could be expected to be in a state of vandalism at any given time, this is not useful for readers. When editors are allowed to edit war, this is not useful for the editors nor the readers in the long run. As regards unprotection, as soon as it is expected that a lower of protection will still yield a useful article to both readers and editors, protection should be lessened. [[User_talk:Sanchom|Sancho]] 16:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 
Grande Torino played with the 4-4-2 10 years before the [[Brazil national football team|Brazil]] [[1958]] [[FIFA World Cup|World Cup]] team, and some of their game tactics anticipated by 35 years the [[Netherlands|Dutch]] [[Total Football]] that revolutionized the game in the 1970s.
 
The starting lineup of Grande Torino included [[Valerio Bacigalupo]], [[Aldo Ballarin]], [[Virgilio Maroso]], [[Pino Grezar]], [[Mario Rigamonti]], [[Eusebio Castigliano]], [[Romeo Menti]], [[Ezio Loik]], [[Guglielmo Gabetto]], [[Valentino Mazzola]], and [[Franco Ossola]]; the son of Ossola is now the major biographer of the Club's history.
 
The [[Italy national football team]] starting lineup in the second half of the forties consisted almost entirely of Grande Torino players, which regularly contributed with 8-9 starters. On [[May 11]], 1947, for the friendly match between Italy and [[Hungary]] 3-2, the ''Azzurri'' starting lineup was made of 10 Grande Torino players plus the [[Juventus]] goalkeeper Sentimenti IV. Italian manager [[Vittorio Pozzo]] reserved the Azzurri starting keeper Valerio Bacigalupo; otherwise it would have been the whole Grande Torino team playing for Italy.
 
Legendary captain [[Valentino Mazzola]] was also the captain of the [[Italy national football team]] as well as the father of [[Sandro Mazzola]], who was also a great champion playing for [[Internazionale Milano F.C.|Internazionale Milano]] and Italy in the 1960s-70s. Valentino was an all-around playmaker midfielder who could direct the team, pass, score, tackle, defend, inspire and lead his teammates.
3. '''Blocking a vandal/dealing with a vandal:'''
:'''A:''' My approach to this is similar to my ideas about page protection. We should use the minimum effort required to stop an editor from decreasing the quality of the encyclopedia. However in the case of a vandal, we must quickly increase what we believe is the minimum required when faced with evidence that our current efforts are not sufficient. Often, I've found, once the editor first notices that somebody has noticed and reverted their "test" and taken the effort to talk to them about it on their talk page, they will stop. I like the four step progression. Some people need two warnings, some people need to hear the word "block", some need to hear "last warning" &mdash; others are undaunted. When it comes to the point of blocking the vandal, it seems that just a short block might be enough to stop vandalism from that IP (the 13 year old at junior high goes for lunch and forgets about Wikipedia). Other times, that short period is not enough. When it becomes apparent that the IP is being used continually and solely for vandalism, I will not hesitate to apply a long term block. The same applies to registered users, but without the apprehension of indefinitely blocking a vandal-only account since there is no chance of collateral effects. I've only talked about blocking as it relates to vandalism, but I would have the same approach towards most other cases such as copyright violation, incivility, attacks, and other things that would require protection of the foundation, or prevention of disruption.
 
==Grande Torino records==
5. '''Optional question from [[User:NSR77|NSR77]]'''
* Most consecutive Italian [[Serie A]] league titles: 5 straight championships from 1943 to 1949 (1942/43, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49, in 1944 and 1945 no league matches were played because of [[World War II]]), which ties [[Juventus]] record of 5 straight Serie A league titles of 1930/31, 1931/32, 1932/33, 1933/34 and 1934/35
* Most consecutive seasons undefeated at home: 4 straight seasons (1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49)
* Most consecutive league matches undefeated at home: 93 straight matches, with 83 wins and 10 draws (from [[January 24]], 1943 to [[April 30]], 1949)
* Most points in one season (before the 3 points per win rules): 65 points (1947/48)
* Winning the [[Serie A]] league with more points ahead of the runner up team: 16 points on [[Juventus]], [[AC Milan]] and [[Triestina]] with 65 points to 49 (1947/48)
* Biggest ever advantage on the English average: 6 points above (1946/47)
* Greatest ever home win: 10-0 to [[Alessandria]] (1947/48)
* Greatest ever away win: 0-7 to [[AS Roma]] (1945/46 Serie A Finals)
* Most wins in one season (16 teams league): 20 wins in 30 matches (1942/43)
* Most wins in one season (20-21 teams league): 28 wins in 38 matches (1946/47) and 29 wins in 40 matches (1947/48)
* Most home wins in one season: 19 wins on 20 matches (1947/48)
* Most away wins in one season (16 teams league): 10 wins in 15 matches (1942/43)
* Most away wins in one season (20-21 teams league): 13 wins in 19 matches (1946/47)
* Most home points in one season: 39 points on 40 available (1947/48)
* Most away points in one season (16 teams league): 22 points on 30 available (1942/43)
* Fewest home points lost in one season: 1 point on 40 available (1947/48 and 1948/49)
* Fewest defeats in one season: 3 defeats on 38 matches (1946/47 and 1948/49)
* Fewest away defeats in one season: 3 defeats on 19 matches (1946/47 and 1948/49)
* Most goals scored in one season: 125 goals (1947/48)
* Most home goals scored in one season: 89 goals (1947/48)
* Most away goals scored in one season (16 teams league): 31 goals (1942/43)
* Most away goals scored in one season (20-21 teams league): 36 goals (1946/47 and 1947/48)
* Most goals scored in the 5 championship seasons: 408 goals scored (1942/43, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1947/48, 1948/49)
* Fewest goals suffered in one season (21 teams league): 33 goals (1947/48)
* Fewest away goals suffered in one season (16 teams league): 9 goals (1942/43)
* Best ever percentage of goals scored in one season: 3.787 goals per match (1947/48)
* More points in the second half of the season: 34 points on 38 available (1946/47) and 36 points on 40 available (1947/48)
* Longest game ever played in the Italian league: in the 1920/21 season, during a game between Torino and [[Legnano]],after been even after the regular times, played two overtimes of 30 minutes each; after 8 minutes of the third overtimes (there were not free kicks) the two teams refused to continue and the victory was given to Legnano.
 
==The Superga tragedy==
''What, exactly, do you feel is the rationale behind the Ignore all rules policy, and how do you think it should be applied in cases of (1) editing disputes, (2) blocking users, and (3) fair use material?''
{{main|Superga air disaster}}
:'''A:''' I believe the rationale is to encourage editors to be bold, to realize that no rule can cover every situation adequately, that all rules were achieved by the consensus of fallible editors, and that the first thing to come to mind is the question of whether or not an action will improve the encyclopedia. I believe it should be applied when considering being bold, anticipating the consensus supporting an action although the action may go against the word of policy. It should not be used in defense against an apparently non-supporting consensus. In editing disputes, one is in active communication with another editor, thus I don't feel there is much room for the application of "ignore all rules" ahead of achieving consensus with the other editor(s).
On [[May 4]], 1949, after having secured their record fifth back-to-back Serie A title, and on their way home after a friendly match with [[SL Benfica|Benfica]] in [[Lisbon]], [[Portugal]], the airplane carrying Grande Torino crashed against the [[Basilica of Superga]], on a hill near [[Turin]], killing all the players and managers. [[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,853712,00.html]]
:As regards the blocking of users, if ever the delay incurred by following a standard warning schedule or abiding by the listed reasons for blocking would result in probable and imminent harm to a person, the foundation, or the encyclopedia, we should ignore all rules and block the required editor or IP.
:I think the rules regarding fair-use material differs from most other rules on Wikipedia. Most rules describe the result of consensus regarding how to achieve the goals of the project and expectations on the behaviour of the contributors etc, but the policy regarding inclusion of non-free content stems from copyright law: something that doesn't change with consensus. Ignoring this rule could potentially damage the foundation, and I think only with a strong community consensus should we as a group choose to ignore these rules in single cases, and never as an individual. [[User_talk:Sanchom|Sancho]] 21:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 
Grande Torino is still much loved by Italian football fans as a symbol of national pride that helped Italian people get through the hardships of post World War II.
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==Current first team squad==
====Discussion====
''As of February 11, 2007''<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/38/56/|title=Torino FC first squad page|accessdate=2007-06-20}}</ref>
 
{{Fs start}}
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{{Fs player|no=1|name=[[Massimo Taibi]]|pos=GK|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=2|name=[[Giuseppe Pancaro]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=3|name=[[Jacopo Balestri]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=4|name=[[Oscar Brevi]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=6|name=[[Gabriele Cioffi]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=8|name=[[Simone Barone]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=9|name=[[Roberto Muzzi]]|pos=FW|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=10|name=[[Alessandro Rosina]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=11|name=[[Roberto Stellone]]|pos=FW|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=13|name=[[Cesare Bovo]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy|other=on loan from [[U.S. Città di Palermo|Palermo]]}}
{{Fs player|no=14|name=[[Ivan Franceschini]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=15|name=[[Diego De Ascentis]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=16|name=[[Masashi Oguro]]|pos=FW|nat=Japan|other=on loan from [[Grenoble Foot 38]]}}
{{Fs player|no=17|name=[[Nikola Lazetić]]|pos=MF|nat=Serbia}}
{{Fs player|no=18|name=[[Angelo Obinze Ogbonna]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=19|name=[[Elvis Abbruscato]]|pos=FW|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs mid}}
{{Fs player|no=22|name=[[Gianluca Comotto]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=23|name=[[Andrea Ardito]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=24|name=[[Axel Cédric Konan]]|pos=FW|nat=Ivory Coast|other=on loan from [[U.S. Lecce]]}}
{{Fs player|no=25|name=[[Marco Di Loreto]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=26|name=[[Luigi Martinelli]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=31|name=[[Alberto Maria Fontana]]|pos=GK|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=44|name=[[Claudio De Sousa]]|pos=FW|nat=Italy}}
{{Fs player|no=77|name=[[Francesco Coco]]|pos=DF|nat=Italy|other=on loan from [[F.C. Internazionale Milano|Inter Milan]]}}
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Saša Bjelanović]]|pos=FW|nat=Croatia}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1456/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Il Torino acquista Bjelanovic|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Eugenio Corini]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1450/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Corini firma per il Torino|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Vincenzo Grella]]|pos=MF|nat=Australia}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1452/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Grella firma per il Torino|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Dominic Malonga]]|pos=FW|nat=France}}<ref name="torino_lega">{{cite web|url=http://www.lega-calcio.it/ita/bach_contratti_tori.shtml|author=Lega Calcio|title=Lega Nazionale Professionisti - Calciomercato - Torino|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Nicola Ventola]]|pos=FW|nat=Italy}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1455/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Ventola firma per il Toro|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Paolo Zanetti]]|pos=MF|nat=Italy}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1457/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Il Torino acquista Zanetti|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-21}}</ref>
{{Fs player|no=–|name=[[Matteo Sereni]]|pos=GK|nat=Italy}}<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.torinofc.it/content/view/1464/61/|author=Torino FC|title=Sereni firma per il Toro|language=Italian|accessdate=2007-06-27|date=[[2007-06-27]]}}</ref>
{{Fs end}}
 
==Achievements==
'''Support'''
*'''[[Serie A]]'''
# This is a quite difficult decision for me to make, but I've decided. When I was browsing through Sanchom's edit statistics, I found a lot of good things, and one thing that I'm a bit displeased about. Sanchom uses a signature template, [[WP:SIG#Transclusion_of_templates|prohibited by the signature content guideline]], which I encourage to put up for deletion. However, I would still trust Sanchom with policy as I have observed a lot of village pump (policy section) commentary. I am extremely impressed with Sanchom's participation and discussion of [[WP:N]]. Not only does he discuss this content guideline, he also has made at least 8 changes to the guideline itself. Therefore, I'd trust Sanchom with closing [[WP:AFD|AFD debates]], as his contributions show a profound participation in that area of Wikipedia, and the policy/guideline that it entails. Sanchom also wishes to protect pages, and I am all for it, because [[WP:RFPP]] has tendencies to be close to backlogs at times. Sanchom has filed around 8 reports there, and since most protection is request due to anon vandalism, and therefore there would not be as much activity, compared to [[WP:AIV]]. I'm satisfied that Sanchom knows the protection policy, and would be able to enforce it correctly at [[WP:RFPP]]. Sanchom has done some vandal-whacking, judging by his contributions, and he has filed over 40 reports at [[WP:AIV]]. I'd support any admin who'd just want vandal-whack, as the rollback, block, and protect tools come in very handy. Sanchom also wants to help out with CSD deletion, also a big plus. The category is a almost a constant backlog, so admins are extremely needed there. On top of all, Sanchom has helped [[Royal Canadian Air Cadets]] reach Good Article status, and [[San Salvador (Guipúzcoan squadron)]] DYK status. To conclude, I feel these numerous positives heavily outweigh the fact that Sanchom uses a signature template (or has one). I'd encourage him to dispose of the template, however. Therefore, I '''support''' Sanchom becoming an administrator. --'''<font face="Arial">[[User:Evilclown93|<font color="#FF7133">Evilclown93</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Evilclown93|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 11:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Champions (7)''': 1927-1928, 1942-43, 1945-46, 1946-47, 1947-48, 1948-49, 1975-76
#:WOW! ClapClapClapClap. What a speech, just makes me want to go through his contibs and find a good reason to oppose. --'''[[User:Lwarf|<font color="#B22222"><font color="#B44444">L<font color="#B66666">w<font color="#B88888">a</font>r</font>f</font></font>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Lwarf|''Talk!'']] </sup> 11:06, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[Coppa Italia]]'''
#:Where do you see a sig template? Looking at the nom, and his recent talk page archives, he doesn't seem to have one now. --[[User talk:Rory096|Rory096]] 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Champions (5)''': 1935-36, 1942-43, 1967-68, 1970-71, 1992-93
#::[[User:Sanchom/sig|Here.]] '''<font face="Arial">[[User:Evilclown93|<font color="#FF7133">Evilclown93</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Evilclown93|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 14:46, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Runners-up (9)''': 1937-38, 1962-63, 1963-64, 1968-69, 1969-70, 1979-80, 1980-81, 1981-82, 1987-88
#:::Considering there are no links to it in the whatlinkshere (besides this page), either Sanchom doesn't use it, or he substs it every time he does (ie, he has <nowiki>{{subst:User:Sanchom/sig}}</nowiki> as his sig. I'm not sure why he'd do that instead of just putting his sig code in the sig box, but it's allowed. --[[User talk:Rory096|Rory096]] 15:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[Serie B]]'''
#:::: I ''should'' be deleted, though. '''<font face="Arial">[[User:Evilclown93|<font color="#FF7133">Evilclown93</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Evilclown93|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 15:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Champions (3)''': 1959-60, 1989-90, 2000-01
#::::: Oh, yes, I will delete it. I confirmed that it was being subst'ed before I used it (seems to be a feature of the software to force template signatures to be subst'ed), but I will not use it any more. I made it originally because it was easier for me to preview the result of changes to my signature, which I don't plan on making anymore anyways. Thank you for letting me know. <span style="font: small-caps 1em Optima">[[User_talk:Sanchom|Sancho]]</span> 15:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Seria A Playoffs (2)''': 2004-05; 2005-06
#:::::: Sorry, but the speech isn't long enough :D [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/CloudNine#Discussion] [[User:Stwalkerster|<span style="color:green">Stwalkerster</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Stwalkerster|talk]]</small> 16:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[UEFA Cup]]'''
#'''Support''' Sanchom is a highly smart when it comes to knowing wiki policy. I believe it is time to give him the mop. His edit count for me is low, 3,100, but other than that, it's a strong support! [[User:Politics rule|Politics rule]] 11:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Runners-up (1)''': 1991-92
#:How many edits would a candidate have to have before you would not consider it "low"? [[User:Echuck215|<span style="color:blue">Charlie</span>]]-[[User_talk:Echuck215|<small><span style="color:purple">talk to me</span></small>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Echuck215|<small><span style="color:purple">what I've done</span></small>]] 13:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[Mitropa Cup]]'''
#::[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Zachary_crimsonwolf|5,000]]... [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Greeves|10,000]]? - <font face="Trebuchet MS">[[User:Zeibura|Zeibura]]</font> <sup>([[User talk:Zeibura|Talk]])</sup> 19:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Winners (1)''': 1990-91
#'''Support''' I reviewed your contributions, talk page history, and katewannabe results and feel confident you can handle the mop wisely. May the Schwartz be with you. --[[User:Ozgod|Ozgod]] 12:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''[[Cup of the Alps|Memorial Pier Cesare Baretti]]'''
#'''Support''' - The user is very experienced but has a very low edit count but I will support [[WP:ADMIN#No_big_deal|as per Jimbo Wales]]..--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 12:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Winners (1)''': 1990
#:How many edits would a candidate have to have before you would not consider it "low"? [[User:Echuck215|<span style="color:blue">Charlie</span>]]-[[User_talk:Echuck215|<small><span style="color:purple">talk to me</span></small>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Echuck215|<small><span style="color:purple">what I've done</span></small>]] 13:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:*'''Runners-up (1)''': 1993
#'''Support''' - After looking at your contributions and other things I am happy to support your adminship. Plenty of good contributions to articles and evidence of a friendly nature convince me you will not abuse the tools. [[User:Camaron1|Camaron1 | Chris]] 15:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' ''No big deal'', won't abuse tools, experienced in policy... Nothing that I can see to oppose this. [[User:Stwalkerster|<span style="color:green">Stwalkerster</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Stwalkerster|talk]]</small> 16:01, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Unlikely to abuse admin tools. --<font style="background:gold">[[WP:EA|<font color="green">S</font>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</font><sup><font style="background:yellow">[[User talk:Siva1979|Talk to me]]</font></sup> 16:47, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
#[[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]] '''Support''' Self nominations shows the user's confidence and eagerness to become an admin, so I will support. [[User:Yamamoto_Ichiro|Yamamoto Ichiro]] <small>(山本一郎)([[User talk:Yamamoto Ichiro|会話]])</small> 16:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' -- you answered my optional question to my satisfaction, so I now know what you will use the tools for and I am happy with that. -- [[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]][[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] <em style="font-size:9px;">-- (dated 17:01, 21 June 2007 UTC)</em>
#'''Strong support'''. I had only one concern which was lack of participation in XfDs (only 6 in the last month), but the answer to question 4, particularly the section on XfD consensus, was just clarity in a cup. I have full trust in this user for closing such discussions. Best of luck, - <font face="Trebuchet MS">[[User:Zeibura|Zeibura]]</font> <sup>([[User talk:Zeibura|Talk]])</sup> 18:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' After expanding on question one. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">''<font color="#0A9DC2">''~''</font>'''''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Wikihermit|<font color="#0DC4F2">Wi</font><font color="#3DD0F5">ki</font>]]<font color="#6EDCF7">her</font><font color="#9EE8FA">mit</font>'''</span> 18:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
# I'm [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] and I '''approve''' this message! - 19:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 
==Youth team achievements==
'''Oppose'''
*'''[[Campionato Primavera|Italian Youth Championship]]'''
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* 1966/67 - 1967/68 - 1969/70 - 1976/77 - 1984/85 - 1987/88 - 1990/91 - 1991/92
*'''[[Coppa Italia Primavera|Italian Youth Cup]]'''
* 1982/83, 1983/84, 1985/86, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1998/99
*'''[[Torneo di Viareggio|Viareggio International youth Tournament]]'''
* 1984, 1985, 1987, 1989, 1995, 1998
 
==Notable players==
'''Neutral'''
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#'''Neutral'''- the user is a good friendly editor and they certainly won't abuse the tools, but, I have to stand neutral because there isn't a very long nor detailed description of why he has nominated himself for RFA. I will change to support if he improves it. [[User:Francisco Tevez|Francisco Tevez]] 16:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
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#:Good question. I have just found myself lately thinking "I wish I could just do that myself", when it comes to vandal blocking, closing the backlogged AfDs, and deletions that satisfy the Speedy Delete criteria specifically. I just put something in the queue, and then wait for somebody else to take care of it. I just think I can be one more person shrinking the queues rather than adding to them. [[User_talk:Sanchom|Sancho]] 16:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Enrico Annoni]]
#:<s>'''Neutral''' Per question one. <span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">''<font color="#0A9DC2">''~''</font>'''''&nbsp;[[User_talk:Wikihermit|<font color="#0DC4F2">Wi</font><font color="#3DD0F5">ki</font>]]<font color="#6EDCF7">her</font><font color="#9EE8FA">mit</font>'''</span> 16:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)</s><small> (changing to support)</small>
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Antonino Asta]]
#'''Neutral''' Per question 5. Awaiting answer. [[User:NSR77|<font color="#000000">'''NSR'''</font><font color="#26466D ">'''77'''</font>]] <sup>[[User_talk:NSR77|<font color="#000000">T</font>]]</sup>[[Special:Contributions/NSR77|<font color="#26466D "><sub>C</sub></font>]] 19:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Valerio Bacigalupo]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Dino Baggio]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Aldo Ballarin]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Dino Ballarin]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Adolfo Baloncieri]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Enzo Bearzot]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Giorgio Bresciani]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Pasquale Bruno]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Luca Bucci]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Luciano Castellini]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Angelo Cereser]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Sandro Cois]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Roberto Cravero]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Giuseppe Dossena]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Rubens Fadini]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Marco Ferrante]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Giorgio Ferrini]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Natalino Fossati]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Diego Fuser]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Gugliemo Gabetto]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Fabio Galante]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Francesco Graziani]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Giuseppe Grezar]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Gianluigi Lentini]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Ezio Loik]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Cristiano Lucarelli]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Luca Marchegiani]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Virgilio Maroso]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Danilo Martelli]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Valentino Mazzola]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Romeo Menti]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Gigi Meroni]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Roberto Mozzini]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Roberto Mussi]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Franco Ossola]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Eraldo Pecci]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Gianluca Pessotto]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Silvio Piola]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Paolino Pulici]]
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*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Mario Rigamonti]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Ruggiero Rizzitelli]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Roberto Rosato]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Claudio Sala]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Patrizio Sala]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Andrea Silenzi]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Giuliano Terraneo]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Lido Vieri]]
*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Renato Zaccarelli]]
*{{flagicon|Argentina}} [[Patricio Hernández]]
*{{flagicon|Austria}} [[Toni Polster]]
*{{flagicon|Austria}} [[Walter Schachner]]
*{{flagicon|Belgium}} [[Vincenzo Scifo]]
*{{flagicon|Belgium}} [[Johan Walem]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Fernando Guidicelli|Fernando]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Leovegildo Lins da Gama Júnior|Júnior]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Walter Casagrande]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Luiz Antônio da Costa|Müller]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[André Luciano da Silva|Pinga]]
*{{flagicon|Croatia}} [[Robert Jarni]]
*{{flagicon|Croatia}} [[Krunoslav Jurčić]]
*{{flagicon|Denmark}} [[Klaus Berggreen]]
*{{flagicon|Denmark}} [[Christian Keller (footballer)]]
*{{flagicon|England}} [[Joe Baker]]
*{{flagicon|England}} [[Gerry Hitchens]]
*{{flagicon|France}} {{flagicon|Guadeloupe|local}} [[Jocelyn Angloma]]
*{{flagicon|France}} [[Benoît Cauet]]
*{{flagicon|Ghana}} [[Abédi Pelé]]
*{{flagicon|Greece}} [[Zisis Vryzas]]
*{{flagicon|Netherlands}} [[Faas Wilkes]]
*{{Flagicon|Paraguay}} [[Dionisio Arce]]
*{{flagicon|Scotland}} [[Denis Law]]
*{{flagicon|Serbia}} [[Nikola Lazetić]]
*{{flagicon|Spain}} [[Joaquín Peiró]]
*{{flagicon|Spain}} [[Martín Vázquez]]
*{{flagicon|Sweden}} [[Hasse Jeppson]]
*{{flagicon|Turkey}} [[Hakan Şükür]]
*{{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[Carlos Aguilera]]
*{{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[Enzo Francescoli]]
*{{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[Gustavo Méndez]]
*{{flagicon|Yugoslavia}} [[Haris Skoro]]
{{col-end}}
 
==References==
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==External links==
*{{en icon}} [http://www.torinofcen.altervista.org Torino FC, Unofficial Website Dedicated to Torino FC - The first in English Language from March 21, 2007]
*{{it icon}} [http://www.torinofc.it/ Torino FC Official website]
*{{it icon}} [http://www.torinofc.altervista.org Torino FC, Unofficial Website Dedicated to Torino FC - Italian Language]
*{{it icon}} [http://www.torcidagranata.it Unofficial Website]
*{{it icon}} {{en icon}} [http://www.toroclub.it/eindex.htm A fans' website]
*{{it icon}} [http://www.toronews.net A news website]
*{{it icon}} [http://www.toroclubbarcelona.com/ Toro Club Barcelona - Home of Torino FC in Barcelona, Spain]
 
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