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==Uniform==
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[[Image:Hampshire helmet constable.jpg|thumb|right|A Hampshire Constabulary custodian ("bobby") helmet]]
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[[Image:Edinburgh G8 police group DSC05042.JPG|thumb|right|Police officers in white shirt and helmets]]
[[Image:Police.three.on.patrol.london.arp.jpg|thumb|right|Metropolitan Police officers wearing hi-visibility jackets]]
Although there are minor variations in the styling, pattern and [[insignia]], the police forces of [[Great Britain]], [[Jersey]], [[Guernsey]], the [[Isle of Man]] and [[Gibraltar]] all wear very similar [[uniform]]s. In general, these have taken their lead from the [[Metropolitan Police]], with changes appearing in that force first. The base colour is a very dark blue, almost indistinguishable from black (and these days often actually is black), which earnt the police the nickname of the "boys in blue".
 
Formal uniform comprises an open-necked [[tunic]] (with or without an attached [[belt (clothing)|belt]], depending on the force) and [[trousers]] or [[skirt]], worn with a white or light blue [[shirt]] and black [[necktie|tie]] (usually [[Clip-on tie|clip-on]], so it cannot be used to strangle the wearer). Although most forces once wore blue shirts, these have been less used since the [[1980s]] (when the Metropolitan Police changed to white) and most now wear white. Officers of the rank of [[inspector]] and above have always worn white shirts, and in many forces so have female officers. In some forces, female officers wear a black and white checked [[cravat]] instead of a tie. Officers of the rank of [[Sergeant]] and above wear rank badges on their epaulettes, while [[Constables]] and Sergeants also wear "[[collar number]]s" on them.
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Until the mid 1990s this was also the everyday working uniform, but today it is rarely seen except on formal occasions. The normal working dress retains the shirt (open-necked or with a tie or cravat) and trousers, worn with or without a [[jersey (clothing)|jersey]] or [[fleece (clothing)|fleece]]. Some forces use [[combat trousers]] and [[combat boot|boots]]. Today, female officers almost never wear a skirt in working dress, and frequently wear trousers in formal dress as well. Officers also frequently wear reflective waterproof [[jacket]]s, which have replaced the old [[overcoat|greatcoat]]s and [[cloak]]s traditionally worn in inclement weather. Most officers now wear [[body armour]] when on duty.
==Few Things==
Well for one according to a certain poster below me your birthday was a while ago (I checked your userbox too) so happy extremely late birthday. Mine was actually 3 days before your so thats cool . . . sorta? But know what I really came here for. One: I finally got the new prophets album and it is indeed amazing, and two: I'm going to the Warped Tour in Virginia Beach next Wednesday and I felt the need to gloat to someone so your'e one of my choices. You should feel appreciated. Think thats's about it [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 03:06, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
:Well, then even happy even more extremely late birthday. Wow, I'm getting confused. Anyway, yes I have been enjoying the prophets album, and thats awesome that you're gonna see that tour. I was thinking about it, but there are lots of bands that are questionable. So, instead, I decided to go to the Red Hot Chili Peppers contest at the end of August. So, there's my gloat I guess. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 17:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 
Basic headgear is a [[Combination Cap|peaked cap]] for men, and a round [[bowler hat|bowler]] style hat for women. All officers wear a black and white (red and white for the [[City of London Police]]) diced band around the hat, a distinction first used in Scotland and later adopted by all forces in Great Britain. Traffic officers wear white cap covers (yellow in Derbyshire). On foot duty, male constables and sergeants outside [[Scotland]] wear the familiar conical [[custodian helmet]]. There are several patterns, with different forces wearing different types. Although some Scottish forces have used helmets in the past, they are no longer worn in Scotland.
==Happy [late] birthday==
Hey...happy [late] birthday! Hope it was a great one...(and you really want new conversations at the top of the page?? hmm...okay)--[[User:ViolinGirl|<font color="#FF6699">Violin</font>]]'''''[[WP:EA|<font color="339900">G</font>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/ViolinGirl|<font color="9999FF">irl</font>]]<sup>[[User_talk:ViolinGirl|<font color="CC00FF">♪</font>]]</sup> 00:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 
Officers of the [[Police Service of Northern Ireland]] (PSNI) wear a uniform which is somewhat different, due to the political situation. The main colour to be found is a dark and light green with the uniform looking very unlike mainland police uniforms.
 
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The first uniform, which was a lighter blue than at present, was a high-collared [[tailcoat]], worn with white trousers in summer. The headgear was a hardened [[top hat]], which served the dual purpose of protecting the officer from blows to the head and allowing him to use it as a step to climb or see over walls. The sleeves of the dark blue coats originally had a pattern of white bars, roughly 6&nbsp;mm wide by 50&nbsp;mm high, set roughly 6&nbsp;mm apart. This immediately distinguished them from naval or maritime personnel. Although this feature was taken up in the [[Dominion]]s, it was not used in the USA.
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The tailcoat was later replaced by a tunic, still high-collared, and the top hat by the [[custodian helmet]] (both adopted by the Metropolitan Police in 1863). With a few exceptions (including the [[City of London Police]] and the [[Hampshire Constabulary]]), the helmet plate was (and still is) based on the [[Brunswick star]]. The helmet itself was of cork faced with fabric. The design varied slightly between forces. Some had that favoured by the Metropolitan Police, topped with a boss, others had a helmet that incorporated a ridge or crest terminating above the badge, while others had a short spike, sometimes topped with a ball.
Because the article specifically compared it to that. It was that, or speedy-delete it -- which I notice had been done already. --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 05:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 
The tunic went through many lengths and styles, with the Metropolitan Police adopting the open-neck style in 1948 (although senior and female officers adopted it before that time). Senior officers used to wear peaked pillbox-style caps until the adoption of the wider peaked cap worn today.
:That logic doesn't follow very well. If I compare [[karate]] to [[martial arts]], like "Karate is a form of martial arts" or "Karate is related to martial arts" does that mean we should incorporate the huge karate article into the martial arts one? Of course not. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 14:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 
Female officers' uniforms have gone through a great variety of styles, as they have tended to reflect the women's fashions of the time. Tunic style, skirt length and headgear have varied by period and force. By the late 1980s, female working uniform was virtually identical to male, except for headgear and sometimes neckwear.
::Okay, speedy delete it is. --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 23:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==Personal radios==
:::Hey, hey, hey, remember [[Wikipedia:Civility|WP:CIVIL]]? Dont just delete it, please allow it to remain a separate article. My argument was for restoring the article as an independent entity. It has enough information on its own to be an article. Please restore it. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 14:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
In 2004, British police forces began the roll-out of a digital [[TETRA]] (Terrestrial Trunked Radio) system for communications, called [[Airwave (communications network)|Airwave]]. The Airwave system replaced the previous Motorola radio handsets and [[two-way radio]]s with a mobile phone-like device, which is supposed to improve radio coverage, is encrypted to prevent interception, and allows data as well as voice transmission. The roll-out is due for complete coverage of all UK police forces and other emergency services by the end of 2007.
 
Personal radio systems were first issued to police officers and installed in police cars in the 1960s (resulting in the demise of the "[[police box]]" telephones made famous by ''[[Doctor Who]]''). From the 1990s, officers frequently carried [[mobile phone]]s in addition to their personal radio units.
:::::Hey, hey, hey, read the top of my talk page. First and second points, if you need a hint. Also the relationship of [[Wikipedia:Civility|WP:CIVIL]] to the viability of an article is what, exactly? --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 08:59, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==Firearms and weapons==<!-- This section is linked from [[The Adventures of Tintin]] -->
::::::I dunno, it just seemed like you said "speedy delete it is" and didn't want to hear my side of things anymore. I was trying to keep this conversation civil and intelligent. By the way, can I copy that list? I actually like it. It's funny. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 22:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
In the [[United Kingdom]] and some other countries of the [[Policing in the United Kingdom|British police]] tradition, the police are not normally issued firearms, but are issued other weapons ([[Club (weapon)#Telescopic batons|batons]], [[pepper spray]], [[CS spray]] etc.), although some officers may be issued firearms in special situations. This originates from the formation of the [[Metropolitan Police]] in the [[19th Century]], when police were not armed, partly to counter public fears and objections concerning armed enforcers. However, the [[Ministry of Defence Police]], [[Civil Nuclear Constabulary]] and [[Police Service of Northern Ireland]] (formerly the [[Royal Ulster Constabulary]]) are issued firearms as a matter of routine. Every force can also call upon armed response units in a matter of minutes, and certain specialist squads, such as the [[Flying Squad]], [[Special Branch]], [[Diplomatic Protection Group]], Royalty Protection Branch, and officers protecting airports and government buildings, are routinely armed.
 
The weapons carried routinely by ordinary police constables are currently an extending [[Club (weapon)|baton]] and, in all but two county police services, personal issue [[Riot control agent|incapacitant spray]], such as CS (a chemical incapacitant) or CapTor (a natural incapacitant based on extracts from [[Capsicum]] peppers. The effects of sprays are designed to be short-lived, subsiding within 30-60 minutes and clearing more quickly in well-ventilated areas.
==New Album==
Are you getting the new prophets album? (I know its not the only band you like but not many other people around here like lostprophets so I had to ask somebody.) Oh and that Lyricwiki looks pretty cool, anyway I could help? - [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] (please sign your name, not that i want to be anal about these things)
:Hell yes, I'm getting the new album. Unfortunately, right now, I'm at an academic camp at Stanford so I can't get it until I get out of here which will be 2 weeks from this Friday. When I get home, I'll get it for sure. About Lyricwiki, I kind of took this into my own hands, so it's not official or anything, but just try to add and edit lyrics. Right now, its horrible. Finally, thanks for leaving a new message at the top. You're like the first person to do that. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 15:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
::No problem about the message at the top thing. The huge icon at the top of your page is kind of hard to miss. Yeah I'm pretty psyched about the new album but I'm broke and I want to get the new Rise Against album out tomarrow to so i gotta earn some cash first. And a happy 4th of July to you! [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 02:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:::Thank you, I hope you also have a happy 4th. So far, a few people have ignored the top icon, but maybe now people will start payin attention. I'm into Rise Against, but I'm not sure whether I want the new album. I'll have to listen to it on iTunes or something before I'm sure. Oh, and my mom actually got me the album, because she knew I've wanted it for a while, so as soon as I get back I can listen to it. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 14:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 
The use of batons varies across the country and each force selects which baton is best able to fulfil its needs and provide the best protection to officers. Friction lock batons such as the [http://www.asp-net.com/ ASP] are popular, although the PR-24 [[Monadnock]] extendable baton (sometimes known as the side-handled baton) or the Monadnock Straight Lock baton is used in some forces. Some forces use a one piece "Arnold" baton, although they are relatively rare except in forces in the North of England.
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Unlike the police in most other countries, most officers in the British police are not routinely armed, except in [[Northern Ireland]], at [[airport]]s, [[nuclear power plant|nuclear facilities]], and on some protection duties. However every territorial police force has an armed contingent of officers patrolling able to support unarmed colleagues when required. The arming of the police is a perennial topic of debate.
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Officers on night patrols in some [[London]] divisions were frequently armed with [[Webley and Scott|Webley]] [[revolver]]s (and, after the [[Sidney Street Siege|Battle of Stepney]], Webley [[semi-automatic self-loading pistol|semi-automatics]]) for over 50 years following the [[murder]] of two officers in [[1884]], though individual officers were able to choose whether to carry the weapons. The practice ended in July [[1936]], after which arms could be issued by a sergeant if there was a ''good reason'', and if the officer had been trained.
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The issue of routine arming was next raised after the [[1952]] [[Derek Bentley]] case, and again after the 1966 murder of three officers in London ([[Massacre of Braybrook Street]]), following which around 17% of officers in London were authorised to carry firearms. After the deaths of a number of members of the public in the [[1980s]], control was considerably tightened, many officers had their firearm authorisation revoked, and training for the remainder was greatly improved and later extended to include some training from the [[Special Air Service|SAS]].{{Fact|date=February 2007}} Currently around seven per cent of officers in London are trained in the use of firearms. Firearms are also only issued to an officer under strict guidelines <ref>[http://www.acpo.police.uk/asp/policies/Data/firearms.pdf ACPO firearms policy]</ref> See [[Specialist Firearms Command|CO19]] (Metropolitan Police Firearms Unit).
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In order to allow armed officers to rapidly attend an incident most forces have patrolling [[Armed Response Vehicle]]s (ARVs). ARVs were modelled on the Instant Response Cars introduced by the [[West Yorkshire Police]] in [[1976]], and were first introduced in London in [[1991]], when 132 armed deployments were made. Today [[CO19]] and the [[Diplomatic Protection Group]] provide London with ARVs with officers having weapons permanently holstered on their person to allow rapid deployment.
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Although largely attributable to a significant increase{{fact|June 2007}} in the use of imitation firearms and air weapons, the overall increase in firearms crime between 1998/99 and 2002/03{{fact|June 2007}} (it has been decreasing since 2003/04, although use of imitations continued to rise){{fact|June 2007}} has kept this issue in the spotlight. For the first time since 1936, the routine carrying of firearms on normal police patrols was re-introduced in [[Nottingham]] in February [[2000]], in response to a number of gang related shootings on the St Ann's and Meadows estates. Despite this, [[Police Federation of England and Wales|Police Federation]] surveys have continued to show overwhelming police officer resistance to routine arming. In the Federation's most recent (2006) Officer/Arming survey, 82% of respondents were against the routine arming of police.<ref>[http://www.polfed.org/WhereWeStand_Firearms_and_the_policeAWAITING_INFO230506.pdf Police Federation Survey]</ref>
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As of September [[2004]], all forces in England and Wales also have the [[Taser]] available, but it may only be used by Firearms Officers, although there have been growing calls quietly from within the ranks and the public for all officers to be routinely armed with a [[Taser]]. The [[Police Federation]] have already called for this and is a firm position held by it. <ref>[http://www.polfed.org/we_stand_F0AE5868581B4E239F2FEDFC4D976359.asp Police Federation]</ref>
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<small>''For more on firearm use by British police, see the [[Policing in the United Kingdom#Controversial shootings|controversial shootings section]] of the main [[Policing in the United Kingdom]] article.''</small>
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The archetypal British "bobby" walked his beat alone. Apart from rapid response units, motor vehicles were rarely used except in rural districts (and even there, [[bicycle]]s were more common). However, following the 1964 [[Police Act 1964|Police Act]], the police became increasingly motorised and it is now rare to see an officer on foot patrol except in city or town centres, and then rarely alone. More recently, police forces have begun to put officers back on the beat as 'community' or 'neighbourhood' patrols. In an increasing number of urban centres police bicycle units are used to provide a quick response in congested areas, pedestrianised areas and parkland, as well as carrying out patrols. A bicycle patrol provides a happy balance between the distance covered by a motorised patrol and the approachability of the foot patrol. <ref>[http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/press-centre/press-releases/press-releases-content.asp?prID=298 TFL 999 London Cycling Award press release]</ref> The [[Metropolitan Police]] now have over 1500 police bicycles.<ref>[http://www.daveches.co.uk/analysis/bikes Police on bikes, from LS8]</ref>
 
[[Image:UK Police Battenburg.jpg|thumb|right|Traffic Police Car with high visibility battenburg markings.]]
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[[Police car|Patrol cars]], sometimes known as [[panda car]]s, are in use everywhere and may be crewed by one or two officers. In Scotland, because of the necessity of corroborating evidence, there are always two officers in a vehicle. Rapid response vehicles are utilised for various departments in each police force. Some examples are: armed response vehicles and some traffic department vehicles, which come in marked and unmarked variations. Typical examples of high-powered rapid response vehicles are BMW 5 series, Volvo T5s and V70s, enhanced [[Opel Vectra|Vauxhall Vectra]]s and various Subaru and Audi high-end models. Police also use Land Rover and Range Rover models - such as for responding to motorway incidents - Jaguar cars are even used by some forces. Most forces use [[Ford Transit]] vans or similar models as personnel carriers, with specially adapted versions in use by public order units such as the Metropolitan Police [[Territorial Support Group]]. Police motorcycles, bicycles and horses are also employed depending on the situation.
 
All Home Office police forces have access to air support, often in the form of helicopters. Some forces, such as Hampshire, also have small fixed wing aircraft.
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Forces with significant waterways to police maintain police watercraft, ranging from [[Zodiac Group|Zodiac]] dinghies to [[Arun class lifeboat|ARUN class]] boats.<ref>[http://www.met.police.uk/msu/training.htm Metropolitan Police Marine Unit]</ref><ref>[http://www.strathclyde.police.uk/index.asp?locID=927&docID=-1 Strathclyde Police Marine Policing Unit]</ref>
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==userboxes==
Hey, no problem. I <3 lostprophets. (how do you create userboxes?) 20:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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:Simply scroll on my talk page to "Help:Starting a new page", which is how i create new pages, and follow the format that most other people user for userboxes. just for an example, heres the site for the lostprophets userbox: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_lostprophets&action=edit - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 03:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
 
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Good! (I'm not being sarcastic.) If you didn't find the article helpful, you probably have some idea of what you wanted to see there instead. Could you tell us, and hopefully make some contributions in that direction yourself? [[User:QuartierLatin1968|Quartier]][[User talk:QuartierLatin1968|Latin1968]] [[Image:Flag of Anarcho syndicalism.svg|20px|El bien mas preciado es la libertad]] 22:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
: hmm.... sorry i cant remember! :D my bad.... - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]]
 
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==PYRAMA deleted==
The people, places, or things you have written about in the article [[:PYRAMA]] may not be sufficiently well-known to merit articles of their own, and I have therefore deleted it in accordance with Wikipedia's [[WP:CSD|speedy deletion policy]]. The Wikipedia community [[Wikipedia:welcome, newcomers|welcomes newcomers]], and encourages them to become [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|Wikipedians]]. On Wikipedia, all users are entitled to a [[Wikipedia:user page|user page]] in which they can describe themselves, and this article's content may be incorporated into that page. However, to merit inclusion in the encyclopedia proper, a subject must be [[Wikipedia:Notability|notable]]. We encourage you to write or improve articles on notable subjects. Please read over Wikipedia's [[WP:DEL|deletion policy]] and [[WP:CSD|speedy deletion policy]], and contact me if you feel that PYRAMA should not have been deleted; however, please do not recreate the article without first contacting me or seeking a [[WP:DRV|deletion review]]. If you would like for me to restore its content and move it into your userspace, please contact me, and I will do so gladly. Thanks for your understanding. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 09:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
:I will gladly restore this article to your userspace, i.e. at [[User:Bagel7/PYRAMA]]; however, I will not restore it to the main article namespace as the topic is simply not notable enough to warrant inclusion in the encyclopedia proper. I'm sorry that you feel your work went wasted, but Wikipedia maintains standards of [[WP:N|notability]] for a reason. If you restore it again, the page will protected from recreation. If you would like for me to [[WP:USERFY|userfy]] it, however, I will do so gladly. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 01:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
::Will do. Do you want the history to go with it, or can I just copy and paste? [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 01:22, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Can you just take my original page and leave it like that please? Thanks. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 01:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Here is [[User:Bagel7/PYRAMA|the page]]. It is now located at [[User:Bagel7/PYRAMA]], a [[WP:USER#What about user subpages?|subpage]] of yours. Happy editing! [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Gahh, edit conflict again. I forgot we can't do copy and paste userfication, but in any case I have now userfied it with history to [[User:Bagel7/PYRAMA]]. Feel free to contact me if you need any more help. [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]] ([[User talk:AmiDaniel|talk]]) 01:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::No, I am just a [[Wikipedia]] [[WP:ADMIN|administrator]] who happened to see your message to [[User:AmiDaniel|AmiDaniel]]. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:37, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::: How did you know so much about Pyrama??? - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 01:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well being administrators we can see deleted pages. So we put the content you wrote on that page. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:::But how did you know about George and Pyrama's history??? I didn't say anything about all that. I was amazed when you did. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 01:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Bagel7/PYRAMA&action=history here] for the authorship of the page. I believe [[User:Joker Of Hearts|Joker Of Hearts]] added that. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 01:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== To Whom It May Concern ==
My userpage was recently vandalized. How do I automatically alert someone of that, or make sure it doesnt happen again? - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 01:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
:Well if your userpage is vandalised you should just [[Help:Revert|revert]] the vandalism. I don't see any recent vandalism, so I'll look into removing it. If you add your page to your [[Wikipedia:Watchlist|watchlist]], it will show changes to it on [[Special:Watchlist]]. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 02:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
::I don't see the vandalism. Could you show me where it is? [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 02:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Oh you removed it already. More information on this is availible at [[WP:VAND]]. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 02:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==Appreciated==
I for one appreciate the fact that you did not capitalize the first letter of lostprophets on your page. I love them and thank you for being so considerate. But yeah, that was extremely cool of you. [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 17:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
:Hey you're welcome. I'm just glad someone read my list, lol. I love lostprophets. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 02:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
::Yeah, I skimmed through it, I read through the whole thing a second ago and now I must say, you have amazing taste in music. You're also the one person I know who even knows who Bodyjar is, and for that I congratulate you. That's awesome. [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 14:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, thank you. That means a great deal to me, as you may have been able to tell, since I created and spent time on the whole list. I liked most of the bands on your list too. I'm 15, so we should have similiar tastes in music I suppose. Peace, man, and stay with the cool music. By the way, when you have a chance, check out my forum. Heres the wikipedia page: [[User:Bagel7/PYRAMA]] and heres the real page: [http://www.pyrama.com]. I believe many things on it would interest you based on your userpage. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 07:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll check it out in a while. But I'm not gonna be on here much for the next week or two. I've got exam review and then exams themselves so I might be out for a while. Peace. [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 13:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:::::Me too, dude, and it's going to suck. Good luck with yours and take care - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 03:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::Same to you, I've only got a week of school after Friday, and then its 3 months of R&R for me. Im psyched. [[User:Patrik with a P|Papa_smurPH]] 15:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== How was i vandalizing? ==
 
I was making the information more correct, you say your forum was very influential... which is not true. you have 60 members WOW so infuential. sites with millions of members arent even influential. take you head out of your ass and smell some fresh air, what youre doing is falsifying information
:First of all, unless you are a member of Pyrama, you cannot make general comments about it. It does not matter if the information is factual or not, that site is part of my userpage, so I get to decide what information goes on it. And since I didn't want the information you deleted to be deleted, that is vandalism. Furthermore, restrain yourself from being vulgar please and there's no reason to start a flame war. Finally please sign your name using 4 tildes, which look like this: "~" - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 19:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
 
 
 
::ok, ok wait. this is wikipedia, theres a reason i can edit anything i want, its to keep things accurate. if you dont want people editing your pages install your own wiki on your server and set it so only you can edit it. also, you are posting false info which im allowed to edit so its proper. im not changing it to "OMFG THIS SITE SUKS, IMA HAX0RS IT UP BITCH" im simply correcting an error. on that note lets look at the definition of vandalism
 
::van·dal·ism P Pronunciation Key (vndl-zm)
::n.
::Willful or malicious destruction of public or private property.
 
::yep, nothing destructed there. just doing my job as a wiki community user. oh and no, i will not sign my name and before you start tossing around an "ill ban you, ban you good with my giant baning stick!" think about proxies. banning does nothing.
:::Take it easy buddy. Look again. That page is part of MY userpage, meaning I decide what content is on there. It's fine if you edit it, but I may change it to nonfactual information, because it's not a REAL page. It's part of my userpage. Very good, you can use a dictionary. I only ask you to sign your name because that is the normal procedure we use here at wikipedia. I'm just warning you. Don't worry, you still have several more chances before your proxy is banned - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 06:18, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 
:::: OH NO DONT BAN MY PROXY! I DONT WANT TO HAVE TO ADD ANOTHER! seriously, you missed my point about the proxy, its not my real ip, i can change it whenever i want. banning me will waste 2 min of my time as i change my proxy. speaking of wasting time, yeah, i know how to use a dictionary. its a very very useful tool when you want to show someone they are using a word wrong. and no, i will not sign my name, just because you people here at wikipedia have a standard procedure of what it is you do here doesnt mean that the rest of the world has to follow it, or ever will for that matter. oh and reading your first reply you said i have to be a member, well i was.
 
::::: Oh wait, I've got an idea, why don't you stop using little proxies to fool around and use your own I.P. address to make useful edits, not stupid little ones to someone's userpage. Hey, if I had been using that word incorrectly then I would have warmly thanked you for your definition. HOWEVER, you were willingly destructing my userpage. How were you destructing it? You were falsifying information that I wanted on it. I don't care if you don't think Pyrama is influential. MY OPINION is that it is. AND, on my userpage, I am allowed to state my opinion without having some upstart wannabe-hacker who thinks he can mess around with proxies so he's all that mess around with it. I never said you had to follow procedure, I merely suggested it. Oh really? Please tell me your screenname on Pyrama. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 19:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 
== Userpage vandalism ==
 
Your warning is just as official is mine would be. However, there are prewritten templates you can use. Simply type <!--Ignore the nowikis--><nowiki>{{subst:test}}</nowiki> the first time someone vandalises, the second time <!--Ignore the nowikis--><nowiki>{{subst:test2}}</nowiki>, and keep going. Make sure it is the same person before going up a level. Once they vandalise past level 4, stop and leave a message at [[WP:AIV]] and and admin will come investigate. Happy editing! [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 04:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
: Ok, thanks - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 04:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 
::Oh, sorry, it was a typo. It should have been "subst:", not "susbt:". I fixed the typos, and it should work now. Sorry! [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup>
 
:::Yes, you can and should give IP addresses more then one warning if they vandalize past their first. '''Open''' proxies should be blocked immediately and forever, report them to [[WP:OP]], however ISPs who assign IPs dynamicly, like AOL, should not be reported. Contact me if you have problems with this, I can always [[WP:SPP|semi-protect]] your userpage if it gets bad. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 03:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 
::Since you are not an administrator, you should not warn past a test4, after that [[WP:AIV|contact a sysop]]. [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 03:40, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 
:The proxy that you warned has been blocked See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Naconkantari&page=User%3A72.232.69.220]/ [[User:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">''Prodego''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Prodego|<font color="darkgreen">talk</font>]]</sup> 03:42, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 
:thanks - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 05:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== My Talk Page ==
 
Please don't delete comments on my talkpage. If you wrote the statment then please use a strike through if you no longer with to express that. —[[User:David618|<font color="#002bb8">David618</font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:David618|<font color="#002bb8">t</font>]]&nbsp;[[User:David618/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]]</sup> 20:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
:How do I use a strike through? - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 22:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
::Use &lt;s&gt; &lt;/s&gt;. Did you add those comments? —[[User:David618|<font color="#002bb8">David618</font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:David618|<font color="#002bb8">t</font>]]&nbsp;[[User:David618/Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]]</sup> 23:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
:::Ok. What comments are you referring to? - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 03:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
== Wikiproject Nintendo-Portal Notice ==
 
You listed yourself as a member of [[WP:NES|Wikiproject Nintendo]]. Please do see [[WP:P/P#|This]] proposal for a nintendo Portal.--[[User:Ac1983fan/esperanza|<font color="green">A</font>]][[User:Ac1983fan|<font color="red">c1983fan</font>]] ([[User talk:Ac1983fan|<font color="blue">talk</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ac1983fan|<font color="#808080">contribs</font>]]) 19:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
: I supported it. For future reference, please leave new messages at the top. thanks :) - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 01:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== Bands ==
 
Dude, i just want to say, your favorite bands are my favorite bands. i thought i was the only guy who like [[Buckethead]] and [[Marilyn Manson (band)|Marilyn Manson]]!
[[User:WereWolf|WereWolf]] 16:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
:Sure thing man, I'm just glad you liked my list, as it took me forever to make. Buckethead is pretty cool, and Marilyn Manson may be crazy, but he's still got good music. Peace. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 06:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 
Is the band your thinking of "Zecromancer" actually "Zeromancer?"
 
== Wikiproject alternative music CotW ==
 
Hey, we've set up at collaboration project at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative Music/COTW]]. Feel free to suggest or vote on articles to work on. [[User:WesleyDodds|WesleyDodds]] 00:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
:Alright, will do. By the way, please leave new messages at the top of my talk page. Thanks - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 06:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 
== Additions to coaster infobox require article updating, need help ==
 
I've made several large additions to the {{tl|Infobox roller coaster}} template, which will require updating of EVERY article using it. These additions are automatic unit conversion for the statistics and automatic categorization. I have also provided full documentation of every parameter on the template page, which I strongly encourage you to read. Every article will need the following changes:
 
*These parameters must be delinked: ___location, section, manufacturer, and type. They will be automatically linked, and will (except for section) be used for automatic categorization.
*The type parameter must be Steel or Wood.
*The secondary type (Inverted, Floorless, Duelling etc.) should be moved to the type2 parameter. If a second secondary type is necessary, it goes in type3. In either case, don't link them, it will be done automatically.
*height, drop, length, speed, and restriction must have all non-numeric characters removed. height, drop, and length must be expressed in feet (using decimals instead of inches if necessary), speed must be expressed in miles per hour, and restriction must be expressed in inches. All of these parameters will automatically be converted to metric and displayed in both forms.
 
Also, the rcdb_number parameter should be added to every coaster article that doesn't have it yet.
 
If the article is about a widely-cloned coaster such as [[Batman: The Ride]] where the template covers multiple installations of the same coaster, the redesigned template will not be appropriate. For these articles, simply change the template to "Infobox roller coaster simplified". This is the old version, without all the automation.
 
I've already updated over 50 articles myself, but I can't do this all day and I'll need your help to get it done quickly. The list of pages using the template can be found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template%3AInfobox_roller_coaster here]. I'm sending this message to all listed participants of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Roller Coasters]]. [[User:Dusso Janladde|Dusso Janladde]] 07:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==Happy Birthday!==
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|align="left" width="100%"|Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the [[WP:BDC|Wikipedia Birthday Committee]]! Have a great day, <b>{{PAGENAME}}</b>!
|}[[Category:Wikipedians Wished a Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee|{{PAGENAME}}]]
Have a gret day :) -[[User:Ladybirdintheuk|Ladybirdintheuk]] 06:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
:Hey, uh thanks and all, but mine is on the eleventh. Not the tenth. Notice the birthday countdown on the top of my page. But I'll keep this for tomorrow anyway. Thanks again. - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 14:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 
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|align="left" width="100%"|Wishing you all the best on your birthday! From the [[WP:BDC|Wikipedia Birthday Committee]]. {{{1|}}}
 
|}[[Category:Wikipedians Wished a Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee|{{PAGENAME}}]]
<font face="Book Antiqua" color="#FF00FF">
 
Many happy returns! Enjoy!
 
[[User:Thistheman|Thistheman]] 18:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Brain Teaser AfD ==
 
To all WikiProject Roller coasters participants: [[Brain Teaser]], a kiddie coaster at [[Six Flags Darien Lake]] is up for deletion via [[WP:AFD]]. This isn't my article, but if it's deleted, it sets the prescident for many small coasters to be deleted, such as [[Mild Thing]], which runs counter to the Coaster Wikiproject and also will make a lot of park templates look dumb since they can't include all coasters. [[User:Dusso Janladde|Dusso Janladde]] 20:16, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Pop Punk Revival Merge Discussion ==
 
 
Saw you on the Punk WikiProject list... Your input is valued! - Sir, please check out whats going on there [[Talk:Pop_punk_revival]] and add you opinion to the "Merge Discussion" [[User:Xsxex|Xsxex]] 22:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 
==Burbank High==
Hey, did you go to Burbank High? I just noticed you edit the page. I went there and graduated in '05.[[User:Andrew zot|Andrew zot]] 21:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, sorry. Just fooling around. :) - [[User:Bagel7|Bagel7]] 19:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)