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saying the track bin laden features jadakiss and eminem is a bit of a stretch; their vocals were sampled and they didnt actually pen lyrics for the track. mos def did, but they did not.

'''[[GMA Network]]'s programs''' include news and current affairs shows, [[documentaries]], [[drama]]s, dubbed foreign serials, entertainment, news and talk shows, game shows, variety shows, musicals, sitcoms, children's shows, fantasy and reality shows.

For the previously aired and defunct shows of the network, please see the [[list of shows previously aired by GMA Network]].

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==Copyright Issues==

It appears the basis for this article was plagiarized from [http://www.viperrecords.com/imtech/bio.shtml The Viper Records Biography of Immortal Technique]. Was permission given? This doesn't look like public ___domain material. [[User:Tjdw|Tjdw]] 02:54, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

*I got permission - [[ShadowyCaballero]]

==GMA Network programs==

**Did you forward the email/send the letter per [[Wikipedia:Confirmation of permission]]? --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 01:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC) (Edited to add: Shouldn't there be a note of attribution as well?)--[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 01:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

===Local programs===

====[[GMA News and Public Affairs]]====

[[Image:GMANewsLogo.png|right|200px]]

*''[[100% Pinoy]]

*''[[24 Oras]]

*''[[Emergency (TV program)|Emergency]]

*''[[GMA Flash Report]]

*''[[GMA Weekend Report]]

*''[[Imbestigador]]

*''[[I-Witness]]

*''[[Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho]]

*''[[Kay Susan Tayo]]

*''[[Palaban]]

*''[[Pinoy Meets World]]

*''[[Reporter's Notebook]]

*''[[Saksi]]

*''[[Sine Totoo]]

*''[[Unang Hirit]]

====GMA KiliTV====

== biography sucks ==

[[Image:gma kilitv.jpg|right|150px]]

*''[[Bahay Mo Ba 'To]]

*''[[Bitoy's Funniest Videos]]

*''[[Bubble Gang]]

*''[[Daddy Di Do Du]]

*''[[HP: Ibang Level Na!]]

*''[[Nuts Entertainment]]

*''[[Who's Your Daddy Now?]]

====GMA Telebabad====

this biography looks like it was cut and pasted from the Viper records web site. Furthermore, a military hospital somewhere in South America - that's too vague for an article. Same with the part about him coming from native Peru. Peru is one hell of a big place and it's as general as saying someone came from the United States. If we just cut and paste articles from promo sites it makes wikipedia look worthless.

*''[[Impostora]]

*''[[Lupin (Philippine TV series)|Lupin]]

*''[[Mga Mata ni Anghelita]]

====GMA Dramarama sa Hapon====

:Vague is better than nothing (and some details are so specific they aren't notable). Learn to live with vagueness unless you have more specific, and sourced, information. If you have, then why not add it? On the other hand, if the wording here is copied from elsewhere, then it may have to be removed for copyright violation. [[User:Tim Ivorson|Tim Ivorson]] 10:43, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

*''[[Daisy Siete|Daisy Siete Season 15: Isla Chikita]]

*''[[Pati Ba Pintig ng Puso]]

*''[[Sinasamba Kita]]

====Sabado Star Power====

::Check it out [http://www.viperrecords.com/imtech/bio.shtml]. The bio here on Wiki is a slimmer version but uses a lot of the same phrases and language. Looks like copy vio but I'm not going to add the copy vio tag until someone else verifies. -->[[User:Chemical Halo|Chemical Halo]] 18:16, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

*''[[Fantastic Man]]

*''Kapuso Sine Special

*''[[Startalk]]

*''[[Wish Ko Lang]]

*''[[Walang Tulugan with the Master Showman]]

====Linggo Bingo====

:::Some of these phrases are the same, but it looks like it was put through a POV filter. I wanted to get as many facts as possible and the Viper records site is really the only source on the web. If you are talking about sentence structure, please, change away.

*''[[All Star K!]]

*''[[Boys Nxt Door]]

*''[[Mel and Joey]]

*''[[Mga Kuwento ni Lola Basyang]]

*''[[Move: The Search For Billy Crawford's Pinoy Dancers]]

*''[[Showbiz Central]]

*''SNBO (Sunday Night Box Office)

*''[[SOP Rules]]

*''[[Tok! Tok! Tok! Isang Milyon Pasok!]]

====Other programs====

::::Still may be a copyvio. [[User:ShadowyCaballero]] above claims to have permission, however. --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 01:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

*''[[Art Angel]]

*''[[Eat Bulaga!]]

*''[[Diyos at Bayan]]

*''[[Kapwa Ko Mahal Ko]]

*''[[Lovely Day: LD Force]]

*''[[Magpakailanman]]

*''[[Maynila (TV series)|Maynila]]

*''[[Sis (Philippine TV program)|Sis]]

*''[[Just Joking]]

===Foreign/canned shows===

== love letter ==

====Asianovelas====

*''[[Great Teacher Onizuka#Live-Action|GTO: Live-Action]]''

*''[[Jumong (TV series)|Jumong]]

*''[[Love Truly]]''

*''[[Love in Heaven]]''

====Animé====

This article basically reads like a love letter. Not sure if it was written by a promoter or what, but anyway, it puts him in a remarkably positive light. This guy was the main bully in my high school, that is, he was a huge asshole. So it's weird for me to read this article about how great he is in a supposed encyclopedia. --[[User:169.231.18.188|169.231.18.188]] 02:01, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

*''[[Bleach (manga)|Bleach]]''

*''[[Card Captor Sakura]]''

*''[[Case Closed|Detective Conan]]''

*''[[Chrono Crusade]]''

*''[[Dragon Ball Z]]''

*''[[Fullmetal Alchemist]]''

*''[[Ghostfighter]]''

*''[[Fighting Spirit|Knockout]]''

*''[[Machine Robo Rescue]]''

*''[[One Piece]]

*''[[Pokemon]]''

*''[[Rockman Exe]]''

*''[[Samurai 7]]

*''[[The Slayers]]''

*''[[Slamdunk]]''

====Tokusatsu====

Have you even heard any of his songs?--[[User:Kennyisinvisible|Kennyisinvisible]] 03:29, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

*''[[Kamen Rider Blade]]''

*''[[Genseishin Justiriser]]''

===RGMA programs nationwide===

== wanna write a hate letter instead? ==

*Newscasts

**''[[Balitang Bisdak]]'' -regional newscast of GMA Cebu

**''[[Ratsada]]'' - regional newscast of GMA Iloilo and Bacolod

**''[[Testigo]]'' -regional newscast of GMA Davao

*Variety

**''[[Bongga!]]'' - regional variety show produced by GMA Entertainment Group for GMA Iloilo and Bacolod

**''[[Kuyaw!]]''- regional variety show produced by GMA Entertainment Group for GMA Davao

**''[[Oi! (TV program)|Oi!]]''- regional variety show produced by GMA Entertainment Group for GMA Cebu

==GMA Network upcoming programs==

well, maybe even george w. bush is a lovely person, but we will never know either. it is not the purpose of this article writing about how immortal technique is in person. if you feel that he is represented in totally wrong way, why not rewrite the bio?

===Local Programs===

*Angela Markado<ref name="multiple"/>

*[[Celebrity Duets (Philippine TV series)|Celebrity Duets]]<ref>{{cite web | last = Barrameda | first = Joe | title = John Estrada, idolo ng kalalakihan | publisher = Abante Tonight | date =[[June 12]], [[2007]] | url =http://abante-tonite.com/issue/june1107/showbiz_jb.htm | accessdate = June 12 | language = [[Filipino language|Filipino]]}}</ref> (July 2007)

*Dyesebel<ref name="multiple"/>

*[[Fulhaus]]<ref>{{cite web | last = Diones | first = Allan | title = FIRST READ ON PEP: Pia Guanio is Vic Sotto's leading lady in new GMA-7 sitcom "Fulhaus" | publisher = Philippine Entertainment Portal | date =[[June 28]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.pep.ph/news/13828/FIRST-READ-ON-PEP:-Pia-Guanio-is-Vic-Sottos-leading-lady-in-new-GMA-7-sitcom-Fulhaus | accessdate = June 28}}</ref> (September 2007)

*Igorota<ref name="multiple"/>

*[[Kamandag]]<ref name="multiple"/> (2008)

*[[L.U.V. Pow]]<ref>{{cite web | last = Erece | first = Dinno | title = GMA-7 unleashes its new shows for 2007 | publisher = Philippine Entertainment Portal | date =[[January 19]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.pep.ph/articles/news/11932.htm | accessdate = January 27 }}</ref> (September 2007)

*[[Magic Kamison|Magic Kamison: Season 2]]<ref> (2008)[http://pep.ph/news/12505/Alex-de-Rossi-ready-to-work-with-Jennylyn-Mercado-in-&%2339;Super-Twins& Alex de Rossi ready to work with Jennylyn Mercado in 'Super Twins'], ''pep.ph'', n.d. Accessed last May 21, 2007.</ref> (2008)

*[[Marimar (Philippine TV series)|Marimar]]<ref name="multiple">{{cite web | last = Lorenzo | first = Alfie | title = GMA 7, siksik sa mga pasabog | publisher = Abante Tonight | date =[[February 5]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.abante-tonite.com/issue/feb0507/showbiz_al.htm | accessdate = February 22 | language = [[Filipino language|Filipino]]}}</ref> (September 2007)

*Rosang Agimat<ref name="multiple"/>

*[[Shaider (Philippine TV series)|Shaider]]<ref>[http://www.pep.ph/news/13214/GMA-7-to-serialize-Mga-Mata-ni-Angelita-of-the-late-Julie-Vega "GMA-7 to serialize Mga Mata ni Angelita of the late Julie Vega"], '' mb.com.ph'', n.d. Accessed last April 12, 2007.</ref> (2007)

*[[Sine Novela]]<ref name="multiple"/>

# [[Kung Mahawi Man Ang Ulap]]

# Saan Darating Ang Umaga

# Dapat Ka Bang Mahalin

# Gaano Kadalas Ang Minsan

# Saan Nagtatago Ang Pag-ibig

# Paano Ba Ang Mangarap

# Kung Aagawin Mo Ang Lahat Sa Akin

# Tayong Dalawa

# Ikaw Naman Ang Iiyak

*[[StarStruck|StarStruck: The Star Explosion]]<ref>{{cite web | last = E. Bautista | first = Mario | title = Starstruck Top 6 to get maximum exposure | publisher = Journal Online | date =[[April 10]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2007-04-10&sec=3&aid=14564 | accessdate = June 6}}</ref> (December 2007)

*[[Super Twins#Season 2|Super Twins: Season 2]]<ref>{{cite web | last = Asiñas | first = Noel | title = Na-‘X’ na ‘MKM’ episode, lumusot sa MTRCB! | publisher = Journal Online | date =[[June 6]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2007-06-06&sec=3&aid=20470 | accessdate = June 6}}</ref> (March 2008)

*[[Tasya Fantasya]]<ref name="multiple"/>

*Untitled Philippine-China Co-Production<ref>{{cite web | last = Asiñas | first = Noel | title = China makikisosyo sa GMA-7 | publisher = Journal Online | date =[[June 13]], [[2007]] | url =http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php?issue=2007-06-14&sec=3&aid=21319 | accessdate = June 13}}</ref>

*Zimatar<ref name="multiple"/>

==Special fan website Shows==

*[[Kapusolympics]]: The GMA 57th Anniversary Special (July 1, 2007)

==References==

can some admin please block user [[User:Cavell|Cavell]] from changing the words of the artist's '''fan''' website to ''official'' website; he (or she) is obviously mixing up immortaltechnique.com (no dash! official site which right now redirects to viper records website) with immortal-technique.com (fan website, WITH dash)

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i think it is important that it is displayed as what it is and that,

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref> and </ref> tags, and the template below.

unlike viper records website, it doesnt represent Immortal Technique officially.

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==See also==

[[User:Who-am-i|who-am-i]] 22:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

*[[GMA Network]]

As a response to the user ''Who-Am-I'', I would like to state that Immortal Technique ''himself'' posts commentary on that website. So, in the interest of resolving the issue, the article has been changed to say "on the website Immortal-Technique.com", removing any reference of who owns the website. [[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 01:12, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Cavell

*[[List of Philippine television shows]]

*[[GMA Pinoy TV]]

*[[List of programs broadcast by Q]]

*[[List of shows previously aired by GMA Network]]

==External links==

artists sometimes post on fan message boards, it doesnt make them official.

but since you are demanding sources, please look up both ___domain names on any whois site, e.g. on http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jhtml there you will see the owners of both domains. dash: some fan. no dash: Felipe Coronel, which is IT's real name.

also, you removed the note that the message board in question is currently down (since

almost 2 months by the way) and you added the wrong url. http://www.immortal-technique.com/home.html is obviously neither the message board url, nor the home page, but the internal (usually framed) news page. the message board url is http://www.immortal-technique.com/forums/ both changes are rather not helpful to first time readers, therefor they should be reverted once again. if you still disagree, please post here.

[[User:Who-am-i|who-am-i]] 01:44, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

*[http://www.igma.tv Official Website of GMA Network]

I know the message board link, however, like you said, it is down. The link I provided will direct you to the same place (although not accesable from the main page). This seems to be the disagreement we are having. The message board has not been constanly down for 2 months, as it is where I wrote about his diatribe in the first place. The site seems to be having problems, so I posted a link that directs people ''directly'' to the atricle which I spoke about. So, please leave the link as it is, then people can click it and read what I am talking about. Thank You[[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 02:56, 24 December 2005 (UTC)Cavell

*[http://www.gmapinoytv.com Official Website of GMA Pinoy TV]

{{Programs}}

== year (date) date of birth ==

[[Category:GMA Network| ]]

to get a few more facts, does anyone know when IT was born? i remember reading something about 77 or 78 in some online magazine interview. however, i cannot find it in my bookmarks anymore.

[[Category:Lists of television series by network|GMA Network]]

[[User:Who-am-i|who-am-i]] 01:52, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[[tl:Tala ng mga palabas ng GMA Network]]

== NPOV tag ==

I added the tag after reading the article, and may well end up cleaning the thing up myself. It reads far too much like material copied from somewhere, and it's grotesquely clingy; in short, it sounds like it was written by a groupie.

If it ''is'' material copied from elsewhere, then the offending revisions need to be erased for reasons of copyright. [[User:86.133.53.111|86.133.53.111]] 04:33, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

If you are reffering to the paragraph about "The Intellectual", I wrote that. If you have any disputes about it, please contact me before changing anything, [[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 04:37, 25 December 2005 (UTC)Cavell

I have removed the [[NPOV]] tag and rewritten the article to clean up any references I could find that would violate the [[NPOV]]. As such, I would welcome anyone who has any concerns about this to post and discuss further.[[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 22:48, 31 December 2005 (UTC)Cavell

*Well done! Much more NPOV. I would propose the following changes, however:

::(i) change "rhymes deal with the wrongdoings of the government" to "rhymes deal with ''alledged'' wrongdoings of the government", since (although I think there are wrongdoings as well), this reads as an endorsement of his politics.

::(ii) Remove the "Immortal Technique brings realism and consciousness back to rap music" since it is an opinion.

::(iii) Replace "Despite his humble beginnings as an immigrant from Peru, to living in Harlem, New York, Immortal Technique displays amazing intellectual and political insight into sociology, world politics, and American Foreign Policy." with something more neutral or remove it entirely.

::(iv) Remove "On the message board of Immortal-Technique.com [1], an excellent commentary on current political events, including Hurricane Katrina, the War in Iraq, and American Foreign Policy, may be read." Already in ''External links,'' no need to put it in twice.

:I would have made the edits [[WP:BOLD]], but since the material seems to have already be the subject of a few reverts, I thought we might try concensus here. Thoughts? --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 01:07, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

* Hi, Thank you for your comments regarding my rewite. I have gone through the article once more to correct the issues you have mentioned. I take your points into great consideration and have dealt (I believe) with all of them, with just one exception, which is most likely due to a misunderstanding. In referance to your last point, technically the link ''is'' at the bottom, ''however'', the message board link inside that link is - for some reason - down. So readers will not be able to access his diatribe via the link at the bottom, but they ''can'' access it through this link. I therefore propose to leave the link there, to further assist readers of his article. Your thoughs (or anyones else's) are welcomed. Thank you [[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 02:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)Cavell

**Fantastic, looks great. Thanks. --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 20:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

:*I have both links (in text and at the bottom) as working and going to the same page. Is it time to remove one (whoever removed it earlier today may have been thinking the same thing)? Maybe I am not seeing what material can not be acessed via both links. --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 05:22, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

* The links appear to go to the same page, but the message forum of his fan site cannot be accesed through the link at the bottom. It is therefore added in the article's body above, where mentioned.[[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 21:50, 24 January 2006 (UTC)Cavell

:* Hmm... I have the link at the bottom of the article going to a framed version of the link in the article. The section in the center of the page from the link at the bottom is the same as the link in the page. Try scrolling down the center section (how to do this is specific to your browser/platform, on most PCs, hold the mouse over the section and roll down the roller on your mouse). I don't see what is different between the pages. Thanks, --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 21:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

* I don't know if we're talking about the same link. The link I am talking about is at the end of the article, talking about his commentary on the war in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, etc. This page cannot be accessede from the link at the bottom of the page, even though they go to the same main site, so I left the link where people can use it. I think it help add a lot of depth to the article and request that it be left in for the benifit of many people.

:* I have that [http://www.immortal-technique.com/home.html] is the middle of a frame page of [http://www.immortal-technique.com/]; sorry for the confusion. Thus any material which is in the first is also displayed in the second. Is this what you are refering to? --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 00:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I just reverted a removal of the first link. I think that removal is appropriate, but since this discussion is here, I thought I would request comments before going ahead and removing it myself, since it seems to be a contentious issue. --[[User:Hansnesse|Hansnesse]] 23:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

* Hey Hansnesse, thanks for the support. I feel that the link should be left in because it contains a fantastic commentary on some current (well, july 05) events taking place with american politics. The link as it is presented here '''cannot''' be accessed through the main menu of the site, so it has been placed in - where I thought - the most appropriate place. I feel the link should be left in and - frankly - can't understand why someone would want to remove this pertainant information. Since transferring the entrie text to the article is not feasible, why not leave it here? Thoughts anyone? [[User:Cavell|Cavell]] 00:06, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

* i dont know which browser user Cavell is using (maybe lynx?) but as far as i know, all current browsers (Opera, Mozilla derivates and even IE) support iframes, so the home page (/) on immortal-technique.com should work for anyone. [[User:Who-am-i|who-am-i]] 01:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)