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Flat coated retrievers are not specialist dry-land retrievers, they can't stay away from water!
 
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==Flatcoat kiss==
Several times the sentence on flatcoat kisses has been removed. Any flatcoat owner will be
familiar with the kiss even if they don't know it by that name. Every flatcoat I know, including
my own two, do it. The phrase is commonly used by flatcoat owners in the UK. If you have a really
strong objection to it being there then please discuss here rather than delete it again.
--[[User:Cheesy mike|Cheesy Mike]] 09:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 
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I am concerned about the recently added photo at the bottom of this page. While it is a nice picture of an untrimmed Flat Coat in the field, it does not have the "classic" conformation we have described in the article (i.e. it has a more pronounced stop and a shorter muzzle than is described there and the untrimmed ears give it more of a "spaniel" look). If we include a close up of a Flat Coat head (which can help to educate the public about the unique conformation of this breed, especially those characteristics that set it apart from the better known Goldens and Labs) wouldn't it be a good idea to have a more classic head shot and maybe include a full body picture of this dog to show the enthusiasm and field ability Flat-coats exhibit? I have mostly contributed to this article under the user name "Grnmtndogs" and have written a good deal of the article's content so I hope it will be understood that I am in no way being critical of this dog's photograph or of it's suitability to this article, but merely hoping to illustrate with the photographic images we choose the same information we are giving in the text. Please let me know your thoughts. Fcrlover
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::I would certainly say both that the dog doesn't conform to show standards and that a photo of a dog who does would be ideal. Unfortunately, freely-licensed photos of Flat-coats are fairly rare, and the only other head-shot that Wiki currently has access to is this one,
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::Which doesn't show the conformation well simply because of the angle. For the time being I would be in favour of leaving the photo up but changing the caption to reflect on the dog's uncharacteristic (for the breed) conformation. If a better photo could be found I would certainly replace that image.
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::I just found these two images while looking around the other language wikis.
 
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::At first glance that dog appears to have decent conformation, and also seems more of a field-bred dog (simply an educated guess based on the less-profuse coat and long legs). Do you think these photos are better? --[[User:Pharaoh Hound|<font color="d55b12">Pharaoh Hound</font>]] [[User talk:Pharaoh Hound|<small>(talk)</small>]] [[User:Pharaoh Hound/Game|<small>(The Game)</small>]] 12:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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Look on "edit" page for Fcrlover response. Error in edit page prevented it from printing here. THANKS
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Yes, I think the bottom picture is much better. It disguises any features of head conformation that may not be to the standard by being shot from the front and could just as easily be a dog with correct head conformation. Also, the trimmed ears add to the overall picture of head shape that we have described in the text. Most especially, the happy and enthusiastic expression on the dog's face is absolutely typical of the "joie de vivre" that Flat-coats exhibit in the field or in any endeavor. Would it be possible to have this image instead? [[User:Fcrlover|Fcrlover]] 21:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Fcrlover[[User:Fcrlover|Fcrlover]] 21:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 
Yes, I think the bottom picture is much better. It disguises any features of head conformation that may not be to the Standard by being shot from the front and could just as easily be a dog with correct head conformation. Also, the trimmed ears add to the overall picture of head conformation that we have described in the text. Most especially, the happy and enthusiastic expression on the dog's face is absolutely typical of the "joie de vivre" that Flat-coats exhibit in the field or in any endeavor. Would it be possible to have this image insead?
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Looking again at the other photograph in the "History" section (the one with the white background), I think that the image gives a fairly good picture of the overall Flat-coat head shape. With the muzzle down like it is in the photograph, you can see the overall head dimensions fairly well. A really good profile shot would be great, though, if we could find one. Thanks for the suggestions! [[User:Fcrlover|Fcrlover]] 21:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)Fcrlover[[User:Fcrlover|Fcrlover]] 21:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
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<td bgcolor="#dfefff">''Fiat Sapienta Virtus'' : Manliness Through Wisdom</td>
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The '''Malay College Kuala Kangsar''' (Malay College, MCKK, MC or ''Koleq'', ''Kolek'' and sometimes dubbed "the [[Eton College|Eton]] of the [[Orient|East]]") is the premier [[residential school]] in [[Malaysia]]. It is an all-boys and all-[[Malay people|Malay]] school located in the royal town of [[Kuala Kangsar]], [[Perak]]. In the [[Malay language]], it is called '''Kolej Melayu Kuala Kangsar''' or formerly ''Maktab Melayu Kuala Kangsar''.
 
==Coat of Arms==
 
The shield is quartered, coloured white (''Argent'') in the first quarter, red (''Gules'') in the second, black (''Sable'') in the third and yellow (''Or'') in the fourth.
[[Image:Overfloor and Big Tree, Malay College.jpg|thumb|300px|The Overfloor with the Big Tree on its left, Malay College, Kuala Kangsar.]]
 
These are at the same time the colours of the [[Federated Malay States]] while also representing the four "Rumah" (houses); Idris (white), Sulaiman (red), Mohd Shah (yellow) and Ahmad (black).
 
The four houses were named in honour of the four sultans who were the founders of the college.
 
In the middle of the shield is a red [[kris]] which symbolizes the [[Malay race]]. The crest is a head of a [[tiger]] which is the symbol of the [[Federation of Malaya]]. Surrounding the left and right side of the shield are laurel wreaths symbolizing excellence. The school motto is ''Fiat Sapienta Virtus'', or Manliness Lies Through Wisdom.
 
==School's anthem==
Oh Kolej Melayu<br/ >
Harapan Bangsaku<br/ >
Dengan Sejarah yang Cemerlang<br/ >
Harumlah Namamu<br/ >
 
Kolej Istimewa<br/ >
Didikan untuk semua<br/ >
Keluar membimbing negara<br/ >
Maju terus mara<br/ >
 
Banggaku rasakan<br/ >
Khidmatku berikan<br/ >
Takku lupakan jasa-jasamu<br/ >
Oh Kolej Melayu<br/ >
 
==History==
[[Image:FlagFMS.jpg|thumb|300px|right|Flag of the Federated Malay States.]]
Malay College Kuala Kangsar (MCKK) is a premier and first fully-residential school in Malaysia. Established on [[2 January|2nd January]], [[1905]], it was originally known as the '''Malay Residential School''' of Kuala Kangsar.
 
The school was the brainchild of Mr R J Wilkinson, then Inspector of Schools for the Federated Malay States. In a letter to the Resident-General dated 24th February 1904 he wrote about ''"establishing at a suitable locality in the F.M.S., a special residential school for the education of Malays of good family and for the training of Malay boys for admission to certain branches of Government service"''.
 
Its formation was enthusiastically supported by the then Rulers of the Federated Malay States namely Sultan Idris Murshidul ‘Adzam Shah I of Perak, Sultan Alaiddin Sulaiman Shah of Selangor, Yam Tuan Tuanku Muhammad Shah of Negeri Sembilan and Sultan Ahmad Mu’adzam Shah of Pahang.
 
Mr W Hargreaves, then Headmaster of [[Penang Free School]] was appointed as the first headmaster to lead the establishment of the school. Since [[1965]], the Malay College has been led by Malay headmasters.
 
As it was founded to educate the Malay elite, comprising of royal children and the sons of Malay nobility, few of its early students were from amongst commoner families. This changed dramatically after 1947, as a result of rising [[Malay nationalism]]. Currently, selected Malay boys aged from 12 to 17 from all around Malaysia are being educated there.
 
The Straits Echo on 15th April 1905 reported that a few boys were placed in cosy dormitories in Mr Hargreaves’ rented house, while the others were stabled in small houses formerly occupied by the Malayan Railway clerks. The second half of the school, conducted by Mr Vanrenen was held in a fowl house. Altogether, there were 40 boys in the first intake of the school.
 
The sanction for the building of a permanent school became official on 23rd December 1905, and by 1st May 1909, the Big School was first brought into use. On Saturday, 11th December 1909, the Big School was officially opened by the Sultan of Perak, and the auspicious date also marked the change in the name of the school from the Malay Residential School of Kuala Kangsar to the Malay College of Kuala Kangsar.
 
The change also seems to have seen greater emphasis on the original aim of MCKK, for in a report for 1910 we read: ''"From this school the Government have great hopes that the sons of Malays of the Raja and higher class will be educated and trained on the lines of an English Public School and be fitted to take a share in the Government of their Country"''.
 
Since its inception, more than 5,000 boys (and 2 girls) have had the privilege to enter the gates of MCKK. Though it was initially founded to educate the Malay elites, it changed dramatically as a result of rising Malay nationalism since 1947. Today, selected Malay boys from all walks of life and aged from 12 to 17 from all over Malaysia are educated in MCKK.
 
The college celebrated its centennial celebration on 26th March 2005, attended by dignitaries, old boys, and townspeople. The [[Yang di-Pertuan Agong]] of Malaysia attended the event, along with the royal rulers of the states of [[Perak]], [[Selangor]] and [[Negeri Sembilan]] as well as the governor of [[Malacca]].
 
<!---On June 10 2006, Emperor [[Akihito]] and Empress [[Michiko]] of Japan visited the school. The monarchs had promised to visit the school back in 1990s.-->
 
MCKK has been the school for many prominent Malaysians such as kings, sultans, prime ministers, ministers as well as senior officials in the Government and leading figures in the private sector. MCKK boys undoubtedly fill many of the pages of "Who's Who" in Malaysia.
 
==Buildings==
[[Image:MalayCollegeClockTower.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The clock tower at the Malay College. The tower and the College administration block was opened by High Commissioner for the Federation of Malaya Sir Donald MacGillivray in 1955.]]
The mohbuibtiiumnbhmnoi,mhonihers). The ''Prep School'', built later in 1912, is smaller but with equally prominent features and houses the first formers. In [[1955]], the ''West and East Wing'', as well as the ''Administration Block'' and ''Clocktower'' were added. The Administrative Block was opened by [[British High Commissioner in Malaya|High Commissioner]] for the [[Federation of Malaya]] Sir [[Donald MacGillivray]] in 1955. The West and the East Wing, together with the Overfloor make up what is now called the ''Big School''. Two more hostel blocks, the ''Pavilion'' and ''New Hostel'' were built in [[1963]] and [[1972]] respectively; the latter houses second formers. Another prominent feature of the school is the ''Big Tree'', a raintree (''[[Samanea saman]]'') in front of the East Wing that is said to be as old as the school itself, if not older.
 
==Sports==
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The school itself has three fields. One is located in front of the Big School, traditionally reserved for [[Rugby Union|rugby]], [[soccer]] and [[cricket]]. The second field is located south eastern of the Big School and it usually hosts [[field hockey]] game. The third open space is in the Administration Block and it is used for various purposes.
 
The College ground is also the only place in Malaysia where one could find an [[Eton Fives]] court. The students neither use the court nor do they play the game, however.
 
The school also excels in sports and debate. It became a powerhouse in [[Rugby Union|rugby]] during the sixties and still has one of the best rugby school teams in the nation . Nicknamed "All-Blacks" after the [[All Blacks|New Zealand national team]] for its all black strip and its might and passion like their [[New Zealand]] counterparts, they even perform the [[Ka Mate haka|haka]] before matches. It has consistently held a traditional match series against the [[Vajiravudh College]] of [[Thailand]] since [[1960]]. In odd-numbered years, the match is held in Kuala Kangsar. In even-numbered years, it is held in [[Bangkok]], Thailand. In addition to this, MCKK competes with rival [[Royal Military College (Malaysia)|Royal Military College]] every year in a multi-games carnival. Both colleges take turns to organise the annual event.
 
Within the school, each student belongs to one of four "Rumah" (sport houses). They are Sulaiman (represented by the color red), Ahmad (black), Mohd Shah (yellow) and Idris (white). The four houses compete with each other every year in almost every kind of sports. The competition between the four reaches its peak in the school's Sports Day.
 
==Alumni==
The [[alumni association]] of MCKK is known as the [[Malay College Old Boys' Association]] (MCOBA) and it was established in [[1929]].
 
Amongst the more notable alumni of the Malay College are: Dato' [[Onn Jaafar]], the father of [[Malay nationalism]] and former Prime Minister Tun [[Abdul Razak Hussein]], the former Deputy Prime Minister Dato' Seri [[Anwar Ibrahim]], Malaysian ministers [[Hishammuddin Hussein]], [[Effendi Norwawi]], [[Fauzi Abdul Rahman]] and [[Mohamed Nazri Abdul Aziz|Nazri Aziz]], politician and former chairman of the [[Barisan Nasional Backbenchers Club]] [[Shahrir Abdul Samad|Shahrir Samad]], the Sultans of [[Pahang]] and [[Perak]], and the Yang di-Pertuan Besar of [[Negeri Sembilan]]. The Late [[Tan Sri Yahya Ahmad]] is also an alum.
 
The novelist and composer [[Anthony Burgess]] (1917-93), author of ''[[The Long Day Wanes]]: A Malayan Trilogy'', was a sometime master at MCKK. He taught English and history, and was housemaster at King's Pavilion, between 1956 and 1957 during the headmastership of J.D.R. "Jimmy" Howell. Burgess composed ''[[Sinfoni Melayu]]'' (1956) and later ''Sinfoni Malaya'' for orchestra and brass band (1957), which famously included cries of "[[Merdeka]]!" from the audience. He also wrote two pieces specifically for MCKK. These were the 'Ode: Celebration for a Malay college', for boys' voices and piano (1954), and 'Cantata for a Malay college' (1954).
 
The alumni association is based in the Penthouse of the MCOBA building, which is also home of [[UEM]].
 
==Traditions==
 
A few school traditions, of relatively recent invention, survive.
 
One is the wearing of one of two forms of the school tie every Wednesday by the old boys.
 
Second is the an annual gathering lasting around three days at the school itself - referred to as ''Old Boys Weekend.'' During the weekend, matches are held for any number of sports between the Old Boys and present students, culminating with a rugby match on Sunday morning.
 
Third is an annual formal dinner for old boys, usually held in a ballroom in Kuala Lumpur.
 
Fourth is the school cheering where almost every student is required to sing in unison various fight songs during official sport matches while wearing a specially designed polo-shirt.
 
==Headmasters==
 
*1905&mdash;1918: William Hargreaves
*1918&mdash;1919: J.O. May
*1919&mdash;1923: L.A.S. Jermyn
*1923&mdash;1938: C. Bazell
*1938&mdash;1949: H.R. Carey
*1949&mdash;1953: K.D. Luke
*1953&mdash;1958: J.D.R. Howell
*1958&mdash;1959: P.G. Haig
*1959&mdash;1965: N.J. Ryan
*1965&mdash;1969: Abdul Aziz Ismail
*1970&mdash;1971: Syed Abu Bakar Barakbah
*1971&mdash;1972: Mohd. Ghazali Hj. Hanafiah
*1973&mdash;1975: Nordin Nasir
*1975&mdash;1977: Abdul Rahman Mohd. Ali
*1977&mdash;1982: Wan Abdul Aziz Wan Hamzah
*1982&mdash;1983: Syed Alwi Syed Aljunid
*1983&mdash;1987: Zainal Abidin Hj. Ahmad
*1988&mdash;1992: Rashdi Ramlan
*1992&mdash;1995: Hj. Hassan Hashim
*1995&mdash;1999: Hj. Baharom Kamari
*1999&mdash;2003: Hj. Alimuddin Hj. Mohd. Dom
*2004&mdash;present: Mohd. Rauhi Mohd. Isa
 
==References==
 
* Johan, Khasnor. ''Educating The Malay Elite: The Malay College Kuala Kangsar, 1905-1941.'' Pustaka Antara. Malay College Old Boys Association. The Malaysian Branch of the [[Royal Asiatic Society]]. ISBN 967-937-356-8
* Johan, Khasnor. ''Leadership But What's Next?'' ISBN 983-3318-52-5
 
===Further reading===
 
* Neil J Ryan. ''The Last Expatriate: Reminiscenses of an educationalist in Malaysia''. Utusan Publications & Distributors Sdn. Bhd. ISBN 967-61-1730-7
* Nik Ismail Nik Daud. Arbain Kadri. ''Prosiding Simposium MCOBA 1.'' December 3, 1989.
 
==External links==
 
* [http://mckk.edu.my Official Malay College Kuala Kangsar site]
* [http://dmoz.org/Regional/Asia/Malaysia/States_and_Federal_Territories/Perak/Localities/Kuala_Kangsar/Education/Reunions_and_Alumni/ ODP - Kuala Kangsar Alumni category] listing many MCKK batches that have specific websites.
* [http://www.mcoba.org/ Malay College Old Boys Association] The official Malay College Old Boys Association (MCOBA) website.
* [http://members.mcoba.org/ MCOBA Members] Online members registry and private forums restricted only for members of MCOBA.
* [http://offside.mcoba.org/ MCOBA Offside] The unofficial MCOBA site which is open for all.
* [http://www.mckk8286.com/forum/ Malay College Old Boys Forum] An online community of old boys and friends in lively discussions on every topic under the sun.
* [http://www.milesacademy.com/ MCOBA Institute for Leadership Enhancement] MCOBA Institute for Leadership Enhancement (MILES) is a brainchild and a vision of MCKK old boys to contribute to the development of current and future leaders. This project was initiated to mark the new century of MCKK's existence--a new platform to make an impact for the benefit of the society and the country.
 
 
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