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{{Big Brother project}}

'''AbleNET''' is an [[Internet Relay Chat|IRC]] network. It was founded, May 2001, by [[AfterNET]] Co-Founder and long-time Admin Anthony Sanchez and several others from that network. The network was set up primarily as a chat network for friends, and as a response to growing disillusionment with the policies of some of the [[AfterNET]] administrators. Several users from AbleNET were involved in the creation of [[AfterNET]]; some even tracing their usage back to [[TheNET]] and [[InnerNET]].

:'''''Please post new topics at the bottom of this page, or [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Big_Brother_UK_series_7&action=edit&section=new click here] to start a new topic.'''''

AbleNET is a small network with an average of 150-300 users online at any given time. The [[Undernet]]-compatible [[IRCu]] [[Daemon (computer software)|daemon]] software is used on the servers. [[IRC_Services|Channel services]] are provided using [[srvx]]; the user authentication service is named AuthServ and the channel service is named X.

== Title Sequence ==

There are hidden messages in the new title sequence. Can anyone slow down the sequence to see what it says? There may be clues in there! <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Mcrosby78|Mcrosby78]] ([[User talk:Mcrosby78|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mcrosby78|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- [Template:Unsigned] -->

AbleNET is noted for its distinct lack of [[IRCOp]]s, instead using various services to control the flow of network stability and activity. Additionally, the Network is noted for its high standards of access, regarding the limit of multiple connections and unverifiable "bots".

:One step ahead of you! I have already checked the title sequence, and the "words" which seem to appear are all jumbled with the actual sequence, making a lot of the ineligble. I'm not even sure if a lot of them are actual words, they seem very random. The red "test card" is all part of it too. It just says: "This is the title sequence for Big Brother", and then some stuff about "by taking part in Big Brother you agree to abide by the rules, the rules may change at any time", as well as "NOT FOR TRANSMISSION" (?) and, curiously, "(C) Channel 4 MCMIII" ... 1903?? The titles are just random as far as I can tell, and are just meant to get people like you and me talking about them... ;) [[User:Tomcage9|Tomcage9]] 22:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:*I think the words 'You are being observed' appear in the text, but not necessairily in that order. -[[User:TonyW|TonyW]] 23:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:*The word "Temptation" appears to be there too. [[User:Essexmutant|Essexmutant]] 00:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

:: I slowed down the title sequence to last night's Big Brother's Big Mouth - there are four sets of scrambled words and the only complete words you see are YOU, ARE, BEING and OBSERVED in that order and one in each set - all the other words you see are incomplete. There are words in and out of the breaks too, but I forget what they are now and would have to go home to see them again. ([[User:Lee Stanley|Lee Stanley]] 18:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)) -- the words in and out of the breaks are UNLEASH and TEMPTATION. ([[User:Lee Stanley|Lee Stanley]] 16:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC))

The network can be reached using irc.ablenet.org.

== Nikki ==

Hi. I know that 'Nikki' is actually a mole or fake contestant, placed by the producers into the house. She's an actress. I suppose I'm unable to cite my sources on this, given that there's secrecy involved. I suppose that because of this I can't place this information on the main page, which is frustrating. Is there any Wiki policy on citing sources for information that should be kept secret? Would it be ok to cite this information about Nikki here, on the discussion page, for posterity?

:*No, I don't think you can as that info, if indeed true, cannot be verified at present. If and when it becomes apparent what you're saying is right, this would be added to the main article as it would then be in the public ___domain. -[[User:TonyW|TonyW]] 23:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

:* Ok, fair enough. It should come out in about 2 weeks or so, with rumours appearing in a few days at least.

;* She does appear very false. Perhaps we could say in the article that her manner is apparently staged and there are rumours that she is an actress? --[[User:Belteshezzar|Belteshezzar]] 23:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

::You should cite a source for it first. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 23:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

She's not an actress - she has always been like that - desperately seeking attention... {{unsigned|82.21.158.189}}

:*Ooh, someone who knows her IRL! Or a Big Brother executive... [[User:Mark272|Mark272]] 23:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

::I hate her! "I AM NOT ENJOYING THIS!" "I WANT MY CLOTHES!" "I WANT BOTTLED WATTER!"... brat! [[User:Trampikey|Trampikey]] 23:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Personally I find her hilarious! [[User:Sweetiepetie|Sweetie Petie]] 18:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Historical Timeline ==

She HAS to be a mole - no-one can be that bad in real life. If her hissy fit because no bottled water was available is anything to go by, she's a bloody awful actress too. I just watched her moaning about BO on clothes again. If she isn't a mole then I'll be the one to shoot her on expulsion. Promise. [[User:Griffin147|Griffin147]] 20:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

* May 2001, AbleNET is born and has served as a meeting place for chatters ever since.

* May 2003, with the looming threat of the [http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[e-mail] Fizzer Worm] AbleNET joins with a vast collection of [[IRC]] networks and news communities to form [http://www.irc-unity.org/ IRC-Unity]<ref>http://www.irc-unity.org/</ref>.

* December 2005, AbleNET becomes the first IRC Network to offer "blogging" to their community.

== Founder ==

Anthony Sanchez has been using and administering IRC Networks since 1995, starting as an IRCop with InnerNET subsequently [[NewNET]] during it's founding year. Later he went on to Admin servers for [[TheNET]], [[AfterNET]] and finally AbleNET.

Anthony was, coincidentally, the first to publish the story of the raid on and subsequent shutdown of the popular [[Lineage II]] private server, L2Extreme, on the AbleNET website.<ref>http://anthony.blogs.ablenet.org/l2extreme_fbi_shutdown</ref>

== ImagesExternal links ==

* [http://www.ablenet.org/ AbleNET IRC Website]

:'''''Read this before adding pictures to the article.'''''

* [http://wiki.ablenet.org/wiki/SRVX SRVX Help Files & Command List]

Please make sure that any pictures of housemates added to the article are not copyrighted, and are fair use. This means all housemate pictures off the Channel 4 website '''''cannot''''' be used in this article. Any copyrighted images, or those with no copyright or source information will be removed from the page immediately. — FireFox (<small>[[User:FireFox|U]] [[User talk:FireFox|T]] [[Special:Contributions/FireFox|C]]</small>) 20:01, 18 May '06

* [http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Internet/Chat/IRC/Networks/A/ Google Directory]

:That said, you should be able to do an image capture if you have a PC TV card and use it under GDFL as a TV-screenshot. [[User:Essexmutant|Essexmutant]] 18:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

* [http://searchirc.com/network/AbleNET Search Irc]

::Screenshots are fine, yes. — FireFox (<small>[[User:FireFox|U]] [[User talk:FireFox|T]] [[Special:Contributions/FireFox|C]]</small>) 18:57, 19 May '06

* [http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=AbleNET NetSplit.de]

::: They aren't used under the GFDL as fair use. The are unlicensed images which are being used under the fair use doctrine of copyright. --[[User:Pgk|pgk]]^{(<font color="mediumseagreen">[[User_talk:Pgk|talk]]</font>)} 22:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

* [http://www.srvx.net/ SRVX IRC Services]

:This question has already been discussed [[Wikipedia_talk:Publicity_photos#Redundant.3F|here]] and [[Talk:Big_Brother_UK_series_6#Images|here]].

* [http://irc-unity.org/]

== References ==

:People will have seen the images in the newspapers last Friday, and will no doubt form their own views as to whether they are [[fair use]]. But interesting screenshots are to be preferred.

{{Reflist}}

[[Category:IRC networks]]

:Comments?--[[User:Shojo|luke]] 09:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

{{IRC networks}}

== New Pages Suggested ==

I suggest that a page be made for "Sexual Terrorist" and other words which may in the course of this series become a: largely in public ___domain b: quoted in daily newspapers and c: become used by the people in the house

Well, i'm not sure what one is, so contributions will have to be made by the myriad of folk who read wikipedia. I'll make one myself at the weekend if there are no serious objections.

--[[User:Darkpowder]] 09:45, 19 May 2006 (BST)

:A turn of phrase being only notable for being used by someone on BB7 does not merit a Wikipedia article, I'm afraid. Non-[[neologism|neologistic]] terms in more common usage might fit in [[Wiktionary]], and phrases associated with BB7 contestants if they are heavily quoted might fit in [[Wikiquote]]. &mdash;[[User:Whouk|Wh]][[User:Whouk/Esperanza|<font color="green">o</font>]][[User:Whouk|uk]] <small>([[User talk:Whouk|talk]])</small> 09:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

== Merge ==

I suggest the two pages get merged, whatever good content is in the other page gets put into here. This page follows naming convention for the other serieses, and the same template as the other serieses and the wikiproject. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 01:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

:: I could not make sense of what you have writen down. --[[User:Eddieh|&#91;eddie] - pure ginger]] 10:27, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

== Cite your sources! ==

Please remember to '''[[WP:CITE|cite your sources]]''' if entering any rumours or controversies in the article. Anything entered without these will be removed on sight. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 11:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi, i just wrote that it's rumoured Lea starred in porn films, i see it was rightly removed because no sources were cited, which is down to me not knowing how to, anyways - http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=378769

:Forum posts are not very reliable sources. [[User:RexNL|RexNL]] 12:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

:What about videos showing said movies? [[User:Mr_Pope|Mr_Pope]]

::This is not the right place for spreading rumours. [[User:RexNL|RexNL]] 12:52, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

: Those pictures look very convincing. I remember a conversation in the house about her saying she had "done maybe 1 movie".

== Housemates' ages ==

The BB website gives Bonnie's age as 19 and Mikey's as 22. The launch show gave Bonnie's as 20 and, IIRC, Mikey's as 23. See also [http://community.channel4.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/8850040854/m/3690070664]. -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 15:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:Maybe the 19 and 22 were their ages at the auditions and they've since had their birthdays.

:: Possibly. But why has the website published these ages? Indeed, it's ridiculous if the website was ''never'' up to date. Moreover, if web coverage is updated every day as has tended to happen, then this updating ought to include the housemates' ages. Don't they have every housemate's DOB? -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 19:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Maybe the DOBs will be released soon enough.

:On tonight's show, the narrator said Bonnie was 19 [[User:Trampikey|Trampikey]] 20:18, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

:: If she's 20 now, of course she ''was'' 19 before. -- [[User:Smjg|Smjg]] 12:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[[:Image:Mikey 23.jpg|300px]] Mikey- age 23 [[User:Trampikey|Trampikey]] 22:37, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Whitespace ==

Can someone get rid of the whitespace between {{tl|current}} and the main article? I've tried but can't see what's wrong. — FireFox (<small>[[User:FireFox|U]] [[User talk:FireFox|T]] [[Special:Contributions/FireFox|C]]</small>) 13:30, 20 May '06

:I think it might be related to the current tag, but I'm not sure. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 13:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

::Not the current tag - when the tag is taken away, the whitespace still appears. — FireFox (<small>[[User:FireFox|U]] [[User talk:FireFox|T]] [[Special:Contributions/FireFox|C]]</small>) 13:54, 20 May '06

:::Ah, it's the housemates template - seems to be a rogue }}. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 15:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

== Mikey ==

Any proof for claims of drug-related and homosexual activities?

:[[Leading question|When did you last beat your wife?]]

== Logo war ==

To make things clear, the 'black' logo should be used, for these reasons:

* It is better quality image, for technical reasons.

* Both logos are correct. Saying "It's not black" is incorrect.

* No need to fix what isn't broken.

* The black one is more widely used on wikipedia.

* The white one has been uploaded by a known troublemaker trying to get his way.

* The black and gold colours are more widely used - look at the screenshot on this page and the diary room colour scheme for examples.

* The white background is used on the C4 website for purely design reasons, and they have always used white backgrounds.

-- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 02:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== References. ==

I was just wondering if it was worth adding a list of references on the bottom of the page? Anyone know a good way to do this? Worth doing? -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 14:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

:Mmmm... it ''would'' look better, but would probably be a nightmare to maintain during the show. I'd probably say keep the embedded links during the show, and perhaps do [[Wikipedia:Footnotes|Footnotes]] in September. [[User:The JPS|<font color="Purple">'''The JPS'''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:The JPS|'''<font color="Purple">talk to me</font>''']]} 14:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

==Merging==

What do people think about merging this with the [[Big Brother 7 nominations table]] page, as both are closely linked?

i know that these have been kept separate in the past

[[User:JossDude|Joss]] 14:17, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

:I say keep them apart - it only makes the page look cluttered - at least, it does when incomplete. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 16:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Contestants ==

Shouldn't it be a separate page?? --[[User:Sunfazer|Sunfazer]] |[[User talk:Sunfazer|Talk]] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|40px]] [[Image:Tux.png|20px]] 20:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:Nah, take a look at past series pages, they're all on there. -- [[User:9cds|9cds]]^{[[User_talk:9cds|(talk)]]} 21:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)