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{{Infobox U.S. County|

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county = Frio County|

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state = Texas |

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seal = |

map = Map of Texas highlighting Frio County.svg |

map size = 250|

founded = 1871|

seat = [[Pearsall, Texas|Pearsall]] |

area = 2,938 [[square kilometre|km²]] (1,134 [[square mile|mi²]]) |

area land = 2,935 km² (1,133 mi²) |

area water = 3 km² (1 mi²) |

area percentage = 0.11% |

census yr = 2000|

pop = 16,252|

density = 6|

web = |

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'''Frio County''' is a [[county]] located in the [[U.S. state]] of [[Texas]]. As of [[2000]], the population is 16,252. Its [[county seat]] is [[Pearsall, Texas|Pearsall]][[Geographic references|⁶]]. Frio County is named for the [[Frio River]].

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{{Pic of the day}}

==Geography==

According to the [[United States Census Bureau|U.S. Census Bureau]], the county has a total area of 2,938 [[km²]] (1,134 [[square mile|mi²]]). 2,935 km² (1,133 mi²) of it is land and 3 km² (1 mi²) of it (0.11%) is water.

===Major Highways===

*[[Image:I-35.svg|20px]] [[Interstate 35]]

*[[Image:US 57.svg|20px]] [[U.S. Highway 57]]

*[[Image:Texas 85.svg|20px]] [[State Highway 85 (Texas)]]

*[[State Highway 173 (Texas)]]

===Adjacent counties===

Hello JoJan, [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|Wikipedia]]! I hope you like the place and decide to [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians|join the community]]. Drop us a note at [[Wikipedia:New user log]] so we can meet you and help you get started. If you need editing help, visit [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page]]. For format questions, visit our [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|manual of style]]. If you have any other questions about the project then check out [[Wikipedia:Help]] or add a question to the [[wikipedia:Newcomers' Village pump|Newcomers' Village pump]]. And of course, feel free to talk with me or ask questions on [[User talk:Alex S|my talk page]]. Enjoy! --[[User:Alex S|&#913;&#955;&#949;&#958;]] [[User talk:Alex S|&#931; ]] 15:14, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

*[[Medina County, Texas|Medina County]] (north)

*[[Atascosa County, Texas|Atascosa County]] (east)

*[[La Salle County, Texas|La Salle County]] (south)

*[[Dimmit County, Texas|Dimmit County]] (southwest)

*[[Zavala County, Texas|Zavala County]] (west)

==Demographics==

==taxoboxes and taxoarticles==

As of the [[census]][[Geographic references#2|²]] of 2000, there were 16,252 people, 4,743 households, and 3,642 families residing in the county. The [[population density]] was 6/km² (14/mi²). There were 5,660 housing units at an average density of 2/km² (5/mi²). The racial makeup of the county was 71.86% [[Race (United States Census)|White]], 4.87% [[Race (United States Census)|Black]] or [[Race (United States Census)|African American]], 0.58% [[Race (United States Census)|Native American]], 0.41% [[Race (United States Census)|Asian]], 0.02% [[Race (United States Census)|Pacific Islander]], 19.76% from [[Race (United States Census)|other races]], and 2.50% from two or more races. 73.76% of the population were [[Race (United States Census)|Hispanic]] or [[Race (United States Census)|Latino]] of any race.

I see you are jumping right in a making a bunch of new articles. Good for you! However, please talk a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life]] and its talk pages for current taxobox format and other such latest developments. Also, try to avoid excessive headings (as in [[Black Abalone]]) - it is preferred that articles are more paragraph rich instead of just the bare facts and figures. Of course, you are free to continue as is if you can't figure out how to make the changes: a good stub is better than nothing! - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 19:14, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

There were 4,743 households out of which 40.70% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 55.20% were [[Marriage|married couples]] living together, 16.00% had a female householder with no husband present, and 23.20% were non-families. 20.60% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.30% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.98 and the average family size was 3.44.

There are plenty of examples on the ToL page. Just click on the [edit] button to look at the html code underneath it. Or go the the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Primates]] page, there are links to examples with HTML. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 12:09, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

In the county, the population was spread out with 28.70% under the age of 18, 11.20% from 18 to 24, 30.80% from 25 to 44, 18.70% from 45 to 64, and 10.60% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 31 years. For every 100 females there were 121.40 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 130.20 males.

You really should read and understand [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Tree of Life]]. Taxoarticles should be named from the common name, not from the scientific name, when possible. Look at the fixes I've recently done to [[Briba brasiliana]], for instance. Look at what links to it. Look at the page histories to understand what I've done. Look at other articles I've fixed after your creation/edits. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:49, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The median income for a household in the county was $24,504, and the median income for a family was $26,578. Males had a median income of $23,810 versus $16,498 for females. The [[per capita income]] for the county was $16,069. About 24.50% of families and 29.00% of the population were below the [[poverty line]], including 36.20% of those under age 18 and 30.40% of those age 65 or over.

*I was editing that article and ready to move it to Amaral's Brazilian Gecko, when you interfered. I'm in the process of rewriting all my former edits to comply with the rules. Thanks anyway. [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 15:10, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

::Whoops! Sorry about that. I get very enthusiastic with my editting sometimes. *grins* I've editted that page again, removing the heading and consolidating the text into a paragraph. They arne't my rules; they are yours, too. Anyone is free to go to the talk page and discuss the guidelines and work to change them. Or even ask questions to better understand them. Of course, you are also free to keep making articles in the manner you are comfortable with, and other folks like me will come along and tidy them up. It's just nice if we don't have to do that. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 17:43, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

==Cities and towns==

*I'm quite comfortable with your 'enthusiastic' editing of the articles I'm writing. Wikipedia is a collective undertaking anyway. That is why I started contributing here, instead of laboriously trying to make my own website (three years in the making and still no website !). As to writing 'stubs', sometimes there just isn't any more information available. I can plant a seed, and hope that it will grow in the future, through contributions of other Wikipedians with more expertise in this particular field. I wonder if a link 'Help Wanted' on the Main page couldn't do wonders for stubs to grow. As to the future, any help from you is most welcome. [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 08:32, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

*[[Bigfoot, Texas|Bigfoot]]

*[[Dilley, Texas|Dilley]]

*[[Hilltop, Texas|Hilltop]]

*[[Moore, Texas|Moore]]

*[[North Pearsall, Texas|North Pearsall]]

*[[Pearsall, Texas|Pearsall]]

*[[West Pearsall, Texas|West Pearsall]]

==See also==

:: Ok. I'll continue to edit your stubs. It would still be good if you could make sure to get your taxoboxes looking correct. - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

*[[Winter Garden Region]]

==HelpExternal Wantedlinks==

* {{Handbook of Texas|id=FF/hcf10|name=Frio County}}

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* [http://texashistory.unt.edu/search/?q=%22United+States+-+Texas+-+Frio+County%22&t=dc.coverage Historic Frio County materials], hosted by the [http://texashistory.unt.edu/ Portal to Texas History.]

-- [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 14:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)

{{Texas}}

==Vocabulary project==

Hi, thanks for your vote against the deletion of [[The United States and weapons of mass destruction]]. I run a vocabulary project and since you are Belgian and interested in translation and computers I thought you might be interested. The program and the description in English should be ready by tomorrow, please check my page. [[User:Get-back-world-respect|Get-back-world-respect]] 00:41, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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==Gastropods==

I see you are doing great work on the gastropods. Good luck! *grins* I do not envy you the task, and you are off to a gret start. I have a few suggestions, since I've taken on similar tasks with primates and cephalopods.

#Create a WikiProject. Take a look at my [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Cephalopods]] since they are so closely related to gastropods. A WikiProject is a good place to focus your thoughts, gather resources, male plans, etc. When you've got it started, post bout it on [[Wikipedia:Announcements]] so that others can join in.

#Take a look at [[cephalopod#Classification]]. I think it's concise and informative, compared to the same section on [[gastropoda]]. Sme goes for the relevant sections on the pages below. The general rule of thumb I use is I only go down one full taxon (Class to Order, Order to Family) until I get down to Family when I'l include Genus and Species. On the lower pages, I pretend the table is collapsable, and I've open up only to the part that is relevant, and only show up to the next higher full level, but no higher than the "base" I've set, [[cephalopod]] in this case.

#For the most part, we don't care about the authority of the taxon except the species level in the taxobox.

Again, I think you're doing a great job. When I get all of the [[cephalopod]] species listed, i'll be ready to help you out! - [[User:UtherSRG|UtherSRG]] 01:41, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

[[Category:Texas counties]]

*Thanks for your kind words and your offer of cooperation. I have been pondering your request for a new project and you are right : it is no task to be envied.

[[Category:Frio County, Texas| ]]

[[Category:United States counties with Hispanic majority populations]]

[[de:Frio County]]

*Therefore I sent two emails today:

[[bpy:ফ্রিও কাউন্টি, টেক্সাস]]

[[lmo:Frio County, Texas]]

#to R.H. de Bruyn, a prominent member of the Dutch Malacological Society and author of several excellent books on molluscs.

[[no:Frio County]]

* He answered that he lacks the time, but has given my request to the redaction of the Dutch Malacological Society.

[[nds:Frio County]]

# to Professor W. Ponder, University of Sydney, Australia. He is the author of the new taxonomy of the Gastropoda and one of the best malacologists in the world.

[[pt:Condado de Frio]]

[[zh:弗里奧縣 (德克薩斯州)]]

*I asked for their cooperation (''what an asset this could be for Wikipedia'' ! ) or if they knew others who would be willing to cooperate. Of course, if you know Wikipedians willing to cooperate, they are most welcome. I'm thinking of biology teachers, or dedicated malacologist etc.

*Pending their reply, I'll keep my decision under consideration.[[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 07:00, 2 May 2004 (UTC)

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Hi JoJan, I've been working over on [[slug]] specifically an article on land slugs. It was just a bunch of stuff about how to kill them so I have added some pictures and slug biology. I could do with your expertise on the taxobox. I have only taken it as far as order, but there are several genera. [[User:Billlion|Billlion]] 20:53, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

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==Weather Lore==

JoJan, thank you for your kind remark. I hope this article sees Featured status, but if not, I've still had the pleasure of writing it. And welcome to Wikipedia -- I see you bring a wealth of knowledge with you. I look forward to working with you. [[User:Dwindrim|Denni]] 16:33, 2004 May 7 (UTC)

==Sea Hares==

Hi Jojan. I found some good Sea hare photos on the web for your requests on [[Wikipedia:Requested pictures]]. I contacted the owner (Baki Yoke&#351;, a researcher in Turkey), and he agreed to release the photos in the public ___domain. [[Notarchus]] and [[Petalifera]] now have great photos. Hope you like em. He also said he as more photos of different species if needed. I am working on the remaining sea hares listed in [[Wikipedia:Requested pictures]], so let me know if you need some, or just add more to the list. Best regards, -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 15:19, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

: Thanks Chris73. You're doing a great job. Photos as these are difficult to come by. Just add them to the page. If they need formatting, I'll do it if necessary. But don't be surprised if it takes a while, because I'm about to leave on holiday for a couple of weeks. I have made a few requests for photos myself, to a Malacological Society and to a diving club. So far, no response. At the moment, I'm making new pages about [[Sea butterfly|sea butterflies]]. I have already finished the genus [[Limacina]] and I'm working now on the other genera. No photos, so far. So, if you can get any photos, they are most welcome. [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 19:56, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

::Did I get the wrong Limacina? Sorry. I'll keep on looking. By the way, i removed the picture requests that have no page yet. I hope this is OK with you, and feel free to add them again when you completed the articles. I just think there is no point in requesting a picture if there is no place to put it. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:55, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

==Fir==

Hi JoJan - I hope you won't object too much that I reverted your edits on [[fir]] - my reasons are (1), I find the <nowiki>|-</nowiki> form of box formatting much less comprehensible than the 'traditional' <nowiki><tr><td> etc</nowiki> format and takes up 3 times as many lines in the edit box; (2), the species order I had used was a taxonomic one (Rushforth & Farjon), with related species next to each other; (3) the extra species (and several of the infraspecific taxa) added are no longer considered valid; (4) the vast number of additional, mainly archaic, vernacular names is confusing and not at all useful; the few of them which are still in occasional use can be added to the relevant species pages, but they do not help here. Valid infraspecific taxa will be mentioned in the species pages; whether they are worth including here I'm less sure, I can add them back in. - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 00:44, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi JoJan - I appreciate your feelings over my revert and regret the pain caused; I would feel the same over lost work. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, the taxonomic and nomenclatural information was very outdated and inaccurate, in conflict with standard sources like the Kew Checklist. Not your fault, that of the references you had available (I am curious to know what reference it was?). I would expect my work to be given equal peer review. Some of what you did, I have restored, notably the inclusion of infraspecific taxa in the species list.

Of the taxobox, the problem with the wiki markup is that it uses 34 carriage returns, as opposed to just 14 for the HTML markup, so it takes up a lot more space. Is there any way of condensing the wiki markup more? I tried stripping some of the carriage returns out to see if any were redundant (as many are in some of the older HTML taxoboxes), but it didn't work. I have restored the <nowiki>{{regnum}}</nowiki> etc., as I agree these are useful. - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 09:36, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

==Horse-chestnut==

Hi JoJan - while "Horse Chestnut" may be the commoner, it is also the more confusing, implying these species belong in the genus ''Castanea''. Hyphenating the name avoids this; it is a form of the name which I think should be encouraged as an education for the future. There has been a similar trend in some English bird names, e.g. "Stone Curlew" (''"Numenius" oedicnemus'') was changed to "Stone-curlew" to avoid confusion and show its seperate (''Burhinus oedicnemus'') generic status. I guess it depends on whether one thinks an encyclopedia should be reactive (recording the past) or proactive (educating for the future); my preference is for the latter. When individual species pages get written, I think both forms should be included in the text but giving titular prominence to the hyphenated form - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 23:48, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

==Requesting copyright-free images==

Hi JoJan. Using images with permission that can only be used on Wikipedia is far from ideal. Our [[Wikipedia:mirrors and forks|mirrors and forks]] tend to take all the images indiscriminately, so would be violating the agreement you had with the person that gave you permission. Please see [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2004-February/010713.html Jimbo's post on Wikien-l] about this issue. He suggests such images should be deleted. If you do upload one despite this, please be sure to add <nowiki>{{Copyrighted}}</nowiki> to it. This will help re-users of our content to filter out such images if they need to. It would also be useful to note in the article where the image is used that restrictions apply, inside HTML comments<!--like this-->. Truly free images are much preferred. See the [[Wikipedia:Finding images tutorial|Finding images tutorial]] for more details on getting these. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 22:25, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Dag Jojan,

Bedankt voor je opbouwende kritiek. Ik zal er zeker mee aan de slag gaan. Omdat ik geïnteresseerd ben in wie je was en wat je doet ben ik wat verder gaan zoekn. Zo las ik ook je interesse in vreemde namen omzetten in Nederlandse plantnamen. Misschien wil je derhalve ook eens kijken bij [[Planten voor industriële verwerking]]. Ik ben deze pagina aan het vertalen uit de Franse wiki, maar kwam nog meer van dergelijke pagina's tegen. Het kost me echter veel zoekwerk. Groetjes --Rasbak 08:04, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

==Compacting_Wiki_Taxoboxes==

Hi JoJan - could you check in here please, and see if anything more can be done to improve the Wiki taxoboxes?: [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tree_of_Life#Compacting_Wiki_Taxoboxes]]. Thanks, - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 16:45, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

==Gastropods==

Thanks for the feedback Jojan. I'm glad I could contribute.

==[[Camassia]]==

I began a page today on this member of the Lily family. I saw that you are a guru of flora, so I hope you will take a look and add as you feel is necessary. There is a corelated article on [[Quamash]] the Native American term for the bulb. Thanks in advance.

[[User:Robbiegiles|Robbie Giles]] 05:57, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)

*Thanks for the assist. I will be doing little flora, although I may do some related to native perennials in Idaho and Washington States. I have lots of reading to do to get up to speed.

--18:59, Aug 1, 2004 (UTC)[[User:Robbiegiles|Robbie Giles]]

== Pictures (struik) ==

Hoi, <br>

You mentioned that you had photoshopped the struik picture on en: and reduced it in size. You assumed that I would not object. Well, I do. The point with wikipedia is, is that it is PD I try to make good pictures and by reducing them in size you reduce the usefullnes of the pictrures. As the Wikisoftware does do the reducing there is no need for reducing the pictures.

The implementation of the thumb by showing the detail form is dead wrong; what is required is that the pictures are resized client side to fit the screen. Photoshop is good for red eyes. [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 06:32, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

== substub ==

I noticed the "substub" addition to the pages. I'll follow your lead for the other pages I'm going to create. Just learning. [[User:Mikcohen|Mikcohen]] 04:48, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

==send me a link to the pic in question==

so I can get you additonal picutres I have no ideal about scenitific names.

as to the copyright tag thing is there anyway to do it enmass IE I give some

admin permission and let em do it. ([[User:Belizian]])

==Brassica==

Hi Jo - from the ''New Royal Horticultural Society Dictionary of Gardening''. The main thrust of my changes is of course that the various food crop brassicas are of cultivated origin, not wild, and therefore follow the precepts of the ''[http://www.actahort.org/books/647/ International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants]'' (ICNCP), no longer being given botanical names under the ''[[International Code of Botanical Nomenclature]]'' (ICBN) below the rank of the wild taxon they derive from. As the various cabbages etc comprise numerous similar [[cultivar]]s (rather than single cultivars), the applicable name type is the Cultivar Group, given in capitalised roman type (not italics): Xxxxx Group, and (unlike single cultivars) not in single quotes. The IPNI database, being merely an index of all published names, makes no distinction between which are valid under current nomenclatural rules or not. - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 15:43, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

== Taxobox for Devil's coach horse beetle ==

Dear JoJan

I wrote a little article on the [[Devil's coach horse beetle]], and I haven't done a taxobox as I am not familiar with some of the subtelties of taxonomy.

My taxobox attempt is in [[Talk:Devil's coach horse beetle]], I wonder if

you could check it.

I'm not sure about the geographical range of these beetles, certainly wide spread in the British Isles and introduced to New Zealand and California. Maybe you have them in continental Euorpe too -- in which case you perhaps know names in other languages.

Thanks 08:46, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

: Done [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 15:23, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:: Thanks nice job. Now I have to catch one in the garden and get it to pose for a photo.[[User:Billlion|Billlion]] 16:30, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:I found a picture and its author kindly agreed to its use (a bird watcher from the Isle of Man called Chris Wormwell). Now I put it in the taxo box, but not quite right. I made it a thumbnail, but both thumbnail and taxobox seem to want a caption. Do you know how to do this right please? [[User:Billlion|Billlion]]

== Work in progress ==

Hi JoJan! Just wanted to let you know that there's no need mention in an article's text that it's a work in progress (re [[Anthurium]]) -- ''all'' Wikipedia articles are a work in progress! :-) If, however, your note is to prevent [[Wikipedia:edit conflict|edit conflict]]s, then adding the <nowiki>{{inuse}}</nowiki> biolerplate message would be fine. Best wishes, [[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 19:48, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

==Alpinia picture (Red Ginger)==

I have a ton of these growing on my property down south I've got some heavey equipment going to be onsite next week I will take serveral pics for you when I go do there. As to the Anthurium I don't remember seeing any but I'll be on the look out and will ask around. [[User:Belizian|Belizian]] 01:27, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC) I have a friend who says she knows where some of these are growing (Anthurium) I will try to take some pics for you this evening [[User:Belizian|Belizian]] 17:45, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

==[[Antirrhinum]]==

You asked:

"Antirrhinum

On 17 February you did some editing on Antirrhinum. In the article you state that Antirrhinum majus is the only species in this genus. I cannot find confirmation of this fact. Several sites, such as the University of Hawaii and several others, such as this one [[5] (http://caliban.mpiz-koeln.mpg.de/~stueber/snapdragon/snapdragon_species.html)] give around 30 different species in this genus. Can you show me where you got your information ? JoJan 20:36, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)"

:The source is in the page - [[ITIS]]. It lists most of the species on the University of Hawaii site, but reports them as synonyms, with the species having been moved to other genera (which are also listed in the page). I must say that between February and now I have become more sceptical of ITIS. But usually it is inclined to be unduly conservative, so where it has changed the classification from the traditional one, there are usually good grounds for doing so. Nonetheless, it would be worth looking in the technical literature, especially for any [[molecular systematics]] on the family. I'll have a bit of an explore and modify the page if I find anything interestingly different from the ITIS report. [[User:Seglea|seglea]] 19:41, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:Ah, a bit of a look in [[Web of Knowledge]] shows that the ITIS view is eccentric in the extreme. The taxonomy of the genus is a complete mess, but no-one has recently argued for cutting it to a single species. The best source is Ryan K. Oyama and David A. Baum (2004) Phylogenetic relationships of North American Antirrhinum (Veronicaceae), American Journal of Botany, 91:918-925; the introduction summarises the current mess and there are tables comparing different proposed classification schemes. I will have a go at modifying the page in the light of this article. [[User:Seglea|seglea]] 20:03, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:Major re-write now done. Can you find the other species in sections ''Antirrhinum'' and ''Orontium''? [[User:Seglea|seglea]] 21:41, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

==Pics in new taxoboxes==

Hi Jo - not sure if you've seen this bug problem that's been reported: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life]] item 7: that pics which ''only'' appear in a new taxobox expansion don't get listed as in use on the pic's page (and therefore risk being deleted by admin as unwanted orphans). The pic [[:Image:Araucaria.columnaris1web.jpg]] you uploaded, is only in the [[Araucaria]] taxobox, so I've put it on the Araucaria talk page as well to make the pic show up as in use. I've not checked for other pics you've uploaded and put in taxoboxes though. - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 21:32, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

==Thank you==

Thank you, I will put some Latin names as soon as possible. [[User:Dixi|Dixi]]

==Thank you==

Thank you, I will put some Latin names as soon as posiible. [[User:Dixi|Dixi]]

==Dutch Wikipedia symposium in Rotterdam (27/11/2004)==

Hi,

As a personal initiative I want to mention to you http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Symposium/Najaar_2004

There have been some voices that Dutch-speaking ''Belgian'' wikipedians might be underrepresented at that venue, so I took the liberty to post this message on the talk page of all people I found on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Belgium]].

If this doesn't apply to you (e.g. while French-speaking, or not interested in Dutch wikipedia,...) simply ignore this message.

--[[User:Francis Schonken|Francis Schonken]] 09:31, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

==Copyright tags==

Hi Jo - I'm not certain what you mean here; what I've put is the exact text that the USDA web page ask you to put (I just copied & pasted it), thinking that following their request to the letter would be the best thing to do. What else is needed? Thanks, Michael [[User:MPF|MPF]] 16:47, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:Hi Jo - Thanks; I'm not sure I understand at all, I'm not at all well up on what all this stuff means; I certainly don't want to have to faff around with e-mailing the photographer, so I guess I'd better pull them. Should I ask Uther to quick-delete them? - [[User:MPF|MPF]] 17:33, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

::Hi Jo, thanks again; I guess I'll ask Uther to delete them. The Tanoak, I've got a couple of acorns in my herbarium I'll scan as a stop-gap until someone can take a decent pic, but I've not got any Chrysolepis I can use. I think those are the only ones I've uploaded with the 'non-commercial only' restriction. Sorry to hear you've lost a lot of pics, too. Does it affect the pics you've uploaded from that Belgian website? (e.g. the ones at [[elm]] and [[pedunculate oak]]), if yes, really sad as they're excellent photos. [[User:MPF|MPF]] 19:15, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

== dup? ==

[[Taxonomy of the orchid family]] and [[Taxonomy of the Orchid family]], both created by you, seem to be mostly overlapping but are not identical. Presumably one should be a redir to the other? [[User:Stan Shebs|Stan]] 03:54, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

: I must have been a bit overzealous. I merged both articles and made a redirect. [[User:JoJan|JoJan]] 14:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

== Wikimeet Rotterdam ==

In the presentation in Rotterdam I will present Wikispecies. However I will not go into the relation with en:ToL. The reason is that I have a limited amount of time AND I have to talk in that time about Wiktionary as well. Wiktionary is more relevant to the majority of the people attending.

I am more than happy to discuss the relation between ToL and WikiSpecies outside of the presentation with people who are interested.

I am in favour of having the active ToL people subscribe to the WikiSpecies mailinglist. They can as far as I am concerned discuss ToL topics on this list. The point is however, that it is not only en:ToL people that this mailinglist would be open to. The best place to discuss the relation ToL and WikiSpecies is in my opinion on WikiSpecies itself. :) The object is that we start to cooperate more between the different projects. [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 21:33, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

==Molecular systematics==

Sounds like DNA barcoding should be added; but I don't have time to do the research just now (last year I was on sabbatical, with the leisure to read about things that were important; this year I am back to teaching, and the only reading I have time for at the moment is what my students have to do - you may have noticed I've been missing from Wikipedia for a few weeks). Do you have time to edit the article a bit? I'll try to get back to it in a few weeks' time when the rush has died down.

[[User:Seglea|seglea]] 21:35, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:very nice article. I've tweaked the English a bit, as you request, but to be honest I'd be very happy if half the articles by native speakers were as well written. [[User:Seglea|seglea]] 20:26, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

==Witte ibis==

Dank je voor het toevoegen van de GDFL aan de witte ibis foto. Ik zal nog eens goed al mn plaatjes aflopen om dat sjabloon erbij te zetten. Ze staan er inmiddels al een tijdje en meeste zijn gewoon mijn eigen kiekjes. nl.Jcwf aka Jaap, Raleigh NC

== Tree of Life... ==

So what's with [[Wikipedia Tree of Life/Update of the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group]]? Is it OK in copyright terms? And why is it at such a non-standard name? -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 00:33, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)