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'''Nyarlathotep''' (the '''Crawling Chaos''') is a [[fictional character]] in the [[Cthulhu Mythos]]. He is the creation of [[H.P. Lovecraft]] and first appeared in his [[prose poetry|prose poem]] "[[Nyarlathotep (short story)|Nyarlathotep]]" (1920). The being is one of the cosmic [[Outer God]]s and appears in numerous stories by Lovecraft. Nyarlathotep is also featured in the works of other authors, as well as in [[role-playing game]]s based on the Cthulhu Mythos.
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== npov Inspiration==
 
In a 1921 letter to Reinhardt Kleiner, Lovecraft related the dream he had had — described as "the most realistic and horrible [nightmare] I have experienced since the age of ten" — that served as the basis for his prose poem "Nyarlathotep". In the dream, he received a letter from his friend Samuel Loveman that read:
I'm kind of sketchy on the idea that this discussion of the topic constitutes a neutral point of view. It implies that the scientific community considers the existence of clairvoyance an open question, which I don't believe to be the case. There are certainly people who believe that clairvoyance does exist, and they are entitled to that belief. But that doesn't make it a mainstream scientific perspective, even if they're right. [[User:Rhaas|rhaas]] 23:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
 
:Don't fail to see Nyarlathotep if he comes to Providence. He is horrible — horrible beyond anything you can imagine — but wonderful. He haunts one for hours afterward. I am still shuddering at what he showed.
== about encyclopedic ==
 
Lovecraft commented:
: * [http://www.rosicrucian.com/zineen/magen120.htm Clairvoyance], voluntary and involuntary, the pituitary body and the pineal gland, unused sex force, types of sensitives, children.
 
:I had never heard the name NYARLATHOTEP before, but seemed to understand the allusion. Nyarlathotep was a kind of itinerant showman or lecturer who held forth in publick halls and aroused widespread fear and discussion with his exhibitions. These exhibitions consisted of two parts &mdash; first, a horrible &mdash; possibly prophetic &mdash; cinema reel; and later some extraordinary experiments with scientific and electrical apparatus. As I received the letter, I seemed to recall that Nyarlathotep was already in Providence.... I seemed to remember that persons had whispered to me in awe of his horrors, and warned me not to go near him. But Loveman's dream letter decided me.... As I left the house I saw throngs of men plodding through the night, all whispering affrightedly and bound in one direction. I fell in with them, afraid yet eager to see and hear the great, the obscure, the unutterable Nyarlathotep.<ref>H. P. Lovecraft, letter to Reinhardt Kleiner, December 21, 1921; cited in Lin Carter, ''Lovecraft: A Look Behind the Cthulhu Mythos'', pp. 18-19.</ref>
About this link - one among those removed - the most you may say is that it is not [[scientific]] and that is correct, according to our mainstream science tenets; however, it is an anlysis of [[Clairvoyance]] from the [[esoteric]] point of view, and this is a valid - [[encyclopedic]] - view, as it expresses points not available in the scientic view. The function of the encyclopedia it is not to make science experiments to validate the veracity of the facts, but to state in a logic NPOV or MPOV way the [[knowledge]] available. So, the stated link goes back to its place again. Regards, --[[User:GalaazV|GalaazV]] 09:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
==The Marquis de Puységur==
 
Will Murray suggests that this dream image of Nyarlathotep may have been inspired by the inventor [[Nikola Tesla]], whose well-attended lectures did involve extraordinary experiments with electrical apparatus, and whom some saw as a sinister figure.<ref>Will Murray, "Behind the Mask of Nyarlathotep", ''Lovecraft Studies'' No. 25 (Fall 1991); cited in Robert M. Price, ''The Nyarlathotep Cycle'', p. 9.</ref>
Re CREDIT. Well, I am glad to read in the article that the earliest recorded report of somnambulistic clairvoyance is credited to the Marquis de Puységur. Who else but the Marquis de Puységur would deserve the honor. Greek and Roman historians, not to mention the Bible, have written on the theme at length, but that, of course, was anecdotal evidence. With the Marquis de Puységur we are dealing with SCIENCE. Credit where credit is due!--[[User:BZ(Bruno Zollinger)|BZ(Bruno Zollinger)]] 12:36, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Robert M. Price]] proposes that the name Nyarlathotep may have been subconsciously suggested to Lovecraft by two names from [[Lord Dunsany]], an author he much admired: Alhireth-Hotep, a false prophet from Dunsany's ''[[The Gods of Pegana]]'', and Mynarthitep, a god described as "angry" in his "The Sorrow of Search".<ref>Price, p. vii, 1-5.</ref>
 
==Summary==
Re DULL-WITTED. Victor Race, the peasant mentioned in the article, may well have been dull-witted, but no evidence for this can be found in the report of the Marquis de Puységur. The ''Mémoires pour servir à l'histoire et à l'établissement du magnétisme animal'' (1784) are nevertheless well worth reading, if only for the passage where the Marquis and his brother the Comte de Puységur, also a scientist, bring a dead dog back to life through magnetism.<br />
Nyarlathotep differs from the other beings in a number of ways. Most of them are exiled to stars, like [[Yog-Sothoth]] and [[Hastur]], or sleeping and dreaming like [[Cthulhu]]; Nyarlathotep, however, is active and frequently walks the [[Earth]] in the guise of a human being, usually a tall, slim, joyous man. Most of them have their own cults serving them, while Nyarlathotep seems to serve them and take care of their affairs in their absence. Most of them use strange alien languages, while Nyarlathotep uses human languages and can be mistaken for a human being. Finally, most of them are all powerful yet purposeless, yet Nyarlathotep seems to be deliberately deceptive and manipulative, and even uses [[propaganda]] to achieve his goals. In this regard, he is probably the most human-like among them.
Note, however, the comment by a famous Parisian wit quoted in the ''Petites Affichages'' that a man who submitted on his own free will to a treatment by the Puységurs cannot have been anything but dull-witted.--[[User:BZ(Bruno Zollinger)|BZ(Bruno Zollinger)]] 17:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
 
Nyarlathotep enacts the will of the Outer Gods, and is their messenger, heart and soul; he is also a servant of [[Azathoth]], whose wishes he immediately fulfills. Unlike the other Outer Gods, causing madness is more important and enjoyable than death and destruction to Nyarlathotep.<ref>Harms, "Nyarlathotep", ''The Encyclopedia Cthulhiana'', pp. 218&ndash;9.</ref> In this sense, he strongly resembles the traditional role of the [[devil]].{{Fact|date=February 2007}}
==Needs a Non-NPOV Tag==
 
In the recent [[D20 System|d20 revision]] of the ''[[Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game)|Call of Cthulhu]]'' [[role-playing game]], Nyarlathotep's involvement in human affairs is expanded. According to the ''[[Necronomicon]]'', Nyarlathotep will play some part in the [[End times|End Times]]. It is stated that he will allow [[Great Old One compendium#Nyogtha|Nyogtha]] to wipe the Earth clean in preparation for the return of the [[Great Old One]]s, although it does not specify how Nyarlathotep will accomplish this. It also fails to mention when this will occur, but presumably it would be after the fall of [[Zothique]] some 5,000 years in the future.
At the moment it seems like this is taking the fact that all of this stuff is all "esp", why is there nothing about Cold Reading? All I can see is '''one''' negative sentance. I don't want to offend anyone, too much, so I was wondering what other people think! [[User:Help plz|Help plz]] 15:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 
==Table of forms==
It definitely needs the tag. There are some quotes of dissenting opinions at the bottom of the page, but the entire article treats the subject as if it were an accepted reality, which it is ''not even close'' to being. I'm not really the expert here, but I think the statement that "scientific opinion appears divided" is extraordinarily misleading. [[User:Chalkieperfect|Chalkieperfect]] 04:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 
Nyarlathotep has many forms (some literature refers to these forms as Masks and claims that he has a thousand of them) and is thus known by different avatars.
:Go ahead and put the NPOV tag on if you want, but this is really rather moderate relative to the state of the research. Read the parapsychology article for more. There are quite a few high-ranking scientists who think psi has scientific support. Also, it doesn't really matter whether it is "accepted" or not, it matters what the [[WP:V]] sources say.
 
===Overview===
:How are you going to cold read something miles away? Cold reading is a magical act for an audience. '''[[User:Martinphi|<span style="color:#6c4408;">Martin<sup>phi</sup></span>]]''' <sub>([[User talk:Martinphi|Talk]] Ψ [[Special:Contributions/Martinphi|Contribs]])</sub> 05:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
 
This table is organized as follows:
== Fictional characters category ==
 
* ''Name''. This is the name of Nyarlathotep's form.
I feel that there are so many precognitive/precient characters in fiction, it demands its own category, and I'm surprised to find it doesn't have one. What should the categroy be called, for example, the telekinetic characters have the category [[:Category:Fictional psychokineticists]]. The category could hold a lot of characters like [[Buffy Summers]], [[Phoebe Halliwell]], [[Cordelia Chase]], [[Cassie Newton]], [[Sam Winchester]] etc... there are literally hundreds... would anyone like to be a part of this? Feel free to discuss on my talk page too. [[User:Zythe|Zythe]] 23:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
* ''Region''. This is the geographical ___location where Nyarlathotep's form is active.
* ''Description''. This entry describes Nyarlathotep's form.
* ''Notes''. This field contains additional information.
* ''References''. This field lists the sources that contain references to Nyarlathotep's form. If the source is a story, it is denoted by a two-letter code&mdash;the key to the codes is found [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography|here]]. Otherwise, the source is denoted as follows:
**''rpg'' means a [[role-playing game]] and includes a footnote to the source.
**''MofN'' means the ''Masks of Nyarlathotep'' web site.
:If an entry appears in '''bold''', this means that the reference introduces Nyarlathotep's form.
 
===Table-a (A–D)===
:I don't know much about it, but I definitely believe that this is a very good idea. Go for it! '''[[User:Martinphi|<span style="color:#6c4408;">Martin<sup>phi</sup></span>]]''' <sub>([[User talk:Martinphi|Talk]] Ψ [[Special:Contributions/Martinphi|Contribs]])</sub> 21:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
{|class="wikitable"
==NPOV==
|+ '''Nyarlathotep's forms'''
|-
!Name
!Region
!Description
!Notes
![[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography|References]]
|-
| Ahtu || [[Congo]]
| Appears as a gelatinous mass extruding golden tentacles.
| Ahtu's cult in Africa is comprised of human worshipers of no hope, driven to insanity by being ill-treated and forced into encroachments by rulers and exploiters. Self-mutilation is a sign of the cult: all have amputations and terrible scars from near-fatal whippings and beatings. However, New World worship more resembles voodoo rituals. He can be called by a magical, golden bracelet, which is kept separated into two halves to prevent accidental summonings.
| rpg<ref>Detwiller ''et al'', ''Delta Green''; Herber, "Dead of Night".</ref>, '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#UD|UD]]'''
|-
| Black Man || [[England]]
| Appears as a hooved, hairless, [[wikt:swarthy|swarthy]] man.
| Nyarlathotep is worshipped by [[witch]] [[wikt:coven|coven]]s in this form.
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#DW|DW]]''', [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#FG|FG]]
|-
| Black Pharaoh || [[Egypt]]
| Appears as a haughty [[Ancient Egypt|Egyptian]] pharaoh wearing a brightly colored robe.
| The [[Brotherhood of the Black Pharaoh]] worships Nyarlathotep in this form.
| '''[[The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath|DQ]]''', rpg<ref>DiTillio & Willis, ''Masks of Nyarlathotep''.</ref>
|-
| Black Wind || [[Kenya]]
| Manifests as a devastating storm.
| <center>&mdash;
| [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#IK|IK]], '''rpg<ref>Ibid.</ref>'''
|-
| Bloated Woman || [[China]]<br> ([[Shanghai]])
| Initially appears as a dainty maiden behind a fan, though the fan casts an illusion masking the true form of a large bloated tentacled humanoid who eats brains.
| The [[Order of the Bloated Woman]] worships Nyarlathotep in this form.
| rpg<ref>DiTillio & Willis, ''Masks of Nyarlathotep''.</ref>
|-
| Crawling Mist || [[Dreamlands]]
| Appears as a putrid, living fog.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#EL|EL]]'''
|-
| Dark Demon || <center>&mdash;
| Appears as a larger version of the Black Demon yet more treacherous.
| Those who study the black arts are sometimes contacted by this avatar. In return for entering their bodies, the Dark Demon promises them great rewards. Unfortunately, Nyarlathotep never makes good on this promise.
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#KD|KD]]'''
|-
| Dark One || [[California]],<br>[[Louisiana]]
| Appears as a pitch-black, eight-foot-tall, faceless man who can walk through any physical barrier.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#MK|MK]]
'''
|-
|Dweller in Darkness || Wood of N'gai
| This avatar wails as it forms and reabsorbs random appendages. It has no face, but can take any shape it pleases for short time periods.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#DD|DD]]''''
|-
| Howler in the Dark || Wood of N'gai (somewhere in northern [[United States|America]])
| Appears as a hideous, howling giant with a tentacle in place of a face. Occasionally referred to as the God of the Bloody Tongue, or the Bloody Tongue for short.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#DD|DD]]'''
|}
 
===Table-b (E–M)===
I made the article NPOV by saying outright that it is about parapsychology, by sourcing it, and by taking out the weasel words. '''[[User:Martinphi|<span style="color:#6c4408;">Martin<sup>phi</sup></span>]]''' <sub>([[User talk:Martinphi|Talk]] Ψ [[Special:Contributions/Martinphi|Contribs]])</sub> 00:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 
{|class="wikitable"
==Reference to Tauist arts / Qi==
|+ '''Nyarlathotep's forms'''
|-
!Name
!Region
!Description
!Notes
![[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography|References]]
|-
| The Faceless God || [[Ancient Egypt]]
| Appears as a winged, faceless sphinx.
| This avatar has the ability to send its worshippers back through time.
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#FG|FG]]
'''
|-
| The Floating Horror<ref>Harms, ''The Encyclopedia Cthulhiana'', "The Floating Horror", pp. 222. This name was created by Harms.</ref> || [[Haiti]]
| Appears as a bluish, red-veined jellyfish-like creature.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#AP|AP]]'''
|-
| The Haunter of the Dark || [[Australia]];<br>[[Providence, Rhode Island]];<br>[[Yuggoth]]
| A bloated, batlike creature with a single, burning, three-lobed eye which appears able to kill by fear alone. This avatar is destroyed by light.
| Its most important cult is the [[Church of Starry Wisdom]], based in Providence, which can summon the avatar using the [[Shining Trapezohedron]]. It is also worshipped by some modern [[Indigenous Australians|Aborigines]]. Its other epithets include Face Eater, Father of All Bats, Dark Wing, Sand Bat, and Fly-The-Light.
| [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#CD|CD]], '''[[The Haunter of the Dark|HD]]''', rpg<ref>DiTillio ''et al'', "City beneath the Sands"; Petersen ''et al'', ''The Complete Dreamlands''.</ref>, S5
|-
| L'rog'g<br>(also Lrogg),<br>Bat God of L'gy'hx || The [[planet]] [[L'gy'hx]] ([[Uranus (planet)|Uranus]])
| Appears as a two-headed bat (debatable).
| Avatar worshipped by the cuboid inhabitants of L'gy'hx and by a group of renegade [[Insect from Shaggai|Shan]].
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#IS|IS]]''', rpg<ref>Aniolowski, ''Ye Booke of Monstres''.</ref>
|-
| Messenger of the Old Ones ||<center>&mdash;
| Appears as an enormous black mass that seems to creep across the sky.
| This form is manifest only during occasions of cosmic importance, such as the awakening of [[Cthulhu]].
| rpg<ref>Ibid; Petersen, "The Rise of R'lyeh".</ref>, '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#WA|WA]]'''
|-
| Mr. Skin || [[Los Angeles, California|Los Angeles]]
| Eight-foot-tall, pale silver, faceless imitation of a [[pimp]].
| This avatar, appearing in the [[Los Angeles]] area, is closely associated with certain worshippers of [[Shub-Niggurath]].
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#MK|MK]]'''
|}
 
===Table-c (N–W)===
I think the way this aspect of the article is written is a little misleading. While I am no expert, I am familier enough to know that translating "Qi" as "air" does not convey an accurate idea of the concept. While there is no direct translation so it is difficult, "life force" is generally thought to be closer to the mark.
The factual statements regarding the abilities taht can be developed using Tauist technique might want to be framed a little less catagorically?
 
{|class="wikitable"
==hi mate==
|+ '''Nyarlathotep's forms'''
|-
!Name
!Region
!Description
!Notes
![[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography|References]]
|-
| Shugoran || [[Malaysia]]
| Appears as a black human-like creature playing a horn.
| This form is worshipped by the [[Tcho-tcho]]. They sometimes summon this avatar to punish offenders.
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#BH|BH]]''', rpg<ref>Ross, ''Escape from Innsmouth''.</ref>
 
|-
| The Thing in the Yellow Mask || Dreamlands
| A creature clothed in yellow [[silk]].
| This avatar is only known to manifest in the city of [['Ygiroth]] in the Dreamlands. Some claim that it is the lone occupant of the remote, unnamed [[monastery]] on the [[Plateau of Leng]] (see [[High Priest Not to Be Described]]).
| '''[[Celephaïs|CE]]''', [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#FY|FY]], [[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#YG|YG]]
|-
| The White Man || [[New England]]
| Appears as a blonde man in a shiny white robe.
| <center>&mdash;
| '''[[Cthulhu Mythos reference codes and bibliography#NS|NS]]'''
|}
 
==Quotations==
hi mate....i thought you might be interested in the ongoing debate and drama at the [[Clairsentience]] page.... dont worry..if you`re not too bothered about it.[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 18:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
<blockquote>
And it was then that Nyarlathotep came out of Egypt. Who he was, none could tell, but he was of the old native blood and looked like a Pharaoh. The fellahin knelt when they saw him, yet could not say why. He said he had risen up out of the blackness of twenty-seven centuries, and that he had heard messages from places not on this planet. Into the lands of civilisation came Nyarlathotep, swarthy, slender, and sinister, always buying strange instruments of glass and metal and combining them into instruments yet stranger. He spoke much of the sciences - of electricity and psychology - and gave exhibitions of power which sent his spectators away speechless, yet which swelled his fame to exceeding magnitude. Men advised one another to see Nyarlathotep, and shuddered. And where Nyarlathotep went, rest vanished; for the small hours were rent with the screams of a nightmare.
<br>&mdash;H.P. Lovecraft, "Nyarlathotep"
</blockquote>
 
<blockquote>It was the eldritch scurrying of those fiend-born rats, always questing for new horrors, and determined to lead me on even unto those grinning caverns of earth's centre where Nyarlathotep, the mad faceless god, howls blindly to the piping of two amorphous idiot flute-players.
i did a whole new section placing clairsentience in the context of altered states with references to mckenna , tim leary , gordon wasson .... shamanic use of ayuhasca , iboga.... shamnic drumming and dancing... the protestent shaker movement ... the whirling dervishes .... and even a mental health section showing how all of the phenomena thought meaningfull to one group was equally thought to be symptomatic of various mental health diagnosis.....
<br>&mdash;H.P. Lovecraft, ''[[The Rats in the Walls]]''
</blockquote>
 
<blockquote>What his fate would be, he did not know; but he felt that he was held for the coming of that frightful soul and messenger of infinity's Other Gods, the crawling chaos Nyarlathotep.
my aproach was agnostic and included all aproaches with equal validity so that any curios reader could follow their own path of reasoning and research....
<br>&mdash;H.P. Lovecraft, ''[[The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath]]''
</blockquote>
 
<blockquote>There was the immemorial figure of the deputy or messenger of hidden and terrible powers - the "Black Man" of the witch cult, and the "Nyarlathotep" of the ''Necronomicon''.
i thought from the nature of your remarks elsewhere and your chosen study area that you mighht be sympathetique.... cheers [[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
<br>&mdash;H.P. Lovecraft, ''[[The Dreams in the Witch House]]''
</blockquote>
 
<blockquote>There are references to a Haunter of the Dark awaked by gazing into the [[Shining Trapezohedron]], and insane conjectures about the black gulfs from which it was called. The being is spoken of as holding all knowledge, and demanding monstrous sacrifices.
==childish redirect==
<br>&mdash;H.P. Lovecraft, ''[[The Haunter of the Dark]]''
</blockquote>
 
==Popular culture==
(the article presently on the main [[Clairsentience]] page .. if it stays there for 5 minutes ... is the old first draft before months of work was childishly trashed and a meaningless redirect to the clairvoyance page put in its place...[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
===Literature===
Nyarlathotep sometimes appears or is referred to in literature outside the Cthulhu Mythos genre of horror:
 
*In [[Stephen King]]'s ''[[The Stand]]'' and his ''[[The Dark Tower (series)|Dark Tower]]'' series of books, the character [[Randall Flagg]] was known (among many other names) as Nyarlathotep. His short story "[[Crouch End (short story)|Crouch End]]" features the name spelled "Nyarlahotep".
the playground games continue...
*The children's horror writer [[Brad Strickland]] used Nyarlathotep as the main antagonist in his book ''The Wrath of the Grinning Ghost''.
* Nyarlathotep is a student in [[Harry Turtledove]]'s short story "The Genetics Lecture."
 
===Comics===
*Magic spells in the comic book ''[[Conan the Barbarian]]'' feature [[invocation]]s to "Nyarla Thotep".
*In ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'', [[Loki]] summons Nyarlathotep, "tearer of souls, ripper of flesh".
*Nyarlathotep (also called Priest of the Ether, Chaos Made Flesh, etc.) is a character in the webcomic [http://www.friendlyhostility.com Friendly Hostility].
*[[Ethan Kostabi]] in the ''[[Caballistics, Inc.]]'' series has been hinted to be Nyarlathotep.
*In [[The Unspeakable Vault (of Doom)]], Nyarlathotep regularly appears as what looks like a living tentacle with arms and legs.
* Is briefly featured, along with other Great Old Ones, in the dream world the lead characters visit in [[Roger Zelazny]]'s ''[[A Night in the Lonesome October]]''.
 
===Music===
ive posted this on the clairvoyance talk page after someone completely removed the clar#irsentience article which had gone through a process of months of work , rewrites , endless discussion , removasl of personal matereal , edits for style and content .... endless work on correct sourcing and wikpedia referencing and formatting..... the article which had been arrived at with co operation and discussion over many weeks and v man who himself put some hours into grammer , punctuation ... re editting for stlye and content ... and much help in correct sourcing and referencing .....[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
* [[Metallica]]'s 1986 song "[[The Thing That Should Not Be]]", although the title clearly refers to [[Henry_Kuttner_deities#Nyogtha|Nyogtha]], contains the lyric "'''crawling chaos''', underground / cult has summoned, twisted sound".
this article was the sum of many peoples input , effort and hard work so i dont know how or who removed it so thoughtlessly and put the meaningless redirect to the clairvoyance page... any help would be great.... cheers..[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
*German [[heavy metal]] band [[Rage_(band)|Rage]] has a song titled "The Crawling Chaos", a song seemingly about the destruction of the earth by Nyarlathotep, on their 1995 album ''Black in Mind''.
 
*Italian heavy metal band [[Bejelit]] has a song titled "Haunter in the Dark", based on the story of the same name, from their ''Bones and Evil'' EP.
==hi guys==
 
===Games===
i see youve redirected the clairsentience article.... let me ask....what was the point of the weeks of discussions and rewrites if you guys were going to redirect it anyway....you should have told me t get lost out of here...... what was the point of it all? why did i listen to you ? at all? why did i remove all personal references? why did i reference and source all of my matereal diligently and in great detail ? why did i edit and re edit for style and content ? why did i make additional references to religios , anthropological ,socialogical , philosophical ,medical , physics , chemistry , botany , mental health etc so that all views were included and respected? why did i fulfill all of the above hurdles and hoops to fulfill wikpedia formatting and guidlines for you too to delete months of hard work and effort. your actions are without integrity or honour .....[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
*Nyarlathotep appears in the ''[[Persona (video game)|Persona]]'' series of [[PlayStation]] games as a god symbolic of the destructive potential of [[Carl Jung]]'s [[collective unconsciousness]]; and as "Nylonathatep, the laddering horror" in the ''[[Discworld]]'' game ''[[Discworld Noir]]''; and as the ''Thing Outside Time and Space'' in the trading card game ''[[Hecatomb (card game)|Hecatomb]]''.
 
*Nyarlathotep is the main antagonist of the [[Demonbane]] series which spans games, comics, novels, and a TV series, in which it is trying to free its father [[Azathoth]] from the [[Shining Trapezohedron]]. It has taken on four named forms so far: Nya, an owner of a mysterious bookstore filled with dangerous grimoires, Nyarla, a maid to Augusta Derleth, Father Ny, the leader of the [[Church of Starry Wisdom]], and the Tick-Tock Man, technology incarnate. It has also taken on the forms of an unnamed black man "from Egypt", and a talking black rat, among others. Its "true" form is depicted as a great shadow filled with fangs and claws and tentacles with three flaming eyes.
==clairsentience article redirect ?==
 
==References==
Hi ..... whoever removed the clairsentience article and made it redirect ... can you please try and respect that the article that was there had evolved over a couple of months of discussion and many rewrites and multiple edits which involved much discussion over a long period......
.........i could delete this clairvoyance article.... but i wont because revert and delete wars then stupidly take place which is a real shame when a library becomes a bar room brawl......
 
* {{cite web | title=Nyarlathotep | url=http://mythostomes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid= | accessdate=February 21 | accessyear=2007 }}
..... i hope you can respect the clairsentience article...
* {{cite web | title=Masks of Nyarlathotep | url=http://www.psci.net/nyarla/Masks%20of%20Nyarlathotep.htm | accessdate=January 25 | accessyear=2006 }}
*Harms, Daniel. "Nyarlathotep" in ''The Encyclopedia Cthulhiana'' (2nd ed.), pp. 218&ndash;222. Oakland, CA: Chaosium, 1998. ISBN 1-56882-119-0.
 
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..... ive been clairsentient for most of my adult life and it wasnt easy to come this far and to struggle for decades to articulate my experience in a way which makes rational sense to the world at large of which the clairsentience article is a manifest example..... so please try and respect the vast amount of struggle and work which has gone into it....[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
*{{cite book|last=Aniolowski|first=Scott D.|chapter=The Sundial of Amen-Tet|title=Lurking Fears|year=1990|___location=Lockport, NY|publisher=Triad Entertainments}}
 
*{{cite book|last=Aniolowski|first=Scott D.|title=Ye Booke of Monstres|year=1994|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 1-56882-019-4}}
==fair enough==
 
*{{cite book|last=Detwiller|first=Dennis|coauthors=Adam Scott Glancy and [[John Tynes]]|title=Delta Green: A Call of Cthulhu Sourcebook of Modern Horror and Conspiracy|year=1997|publisher=Tynes Cowan Corp|id=ISBN 1-887797-08-4}}
its a fair point...... but why oh why did i do so much fulfilling all of the wikpedia guidlines for personal content , editting style , correct sourcing and referencing , wiki formatting etc .....months tireless work on an article which was to be so casually consigned to the dustbin.......[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 18:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
*{{cite book|last=Diaper|first=John|coauthors=''et al''|title=The Arkham Evil|year=1983|publisher=Theatre of the Mind|id=}}
 
*{{cite book|last=DiTillio|first=Larry|authorlink=Larry DiTillio|coauthors=[[Lynn Willis]]|chapter=City beneath the Sands|title=Terror Australis|year=1987|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 0-933635-40-0}}
however much i respect your views, a redirect to the clairvoyance article would however be entirely meaningless... one is not exchangeable for the other... like cheese isn`t milk etc.....
 
*{{cite book|last=DiTillio|first=Larry|coauthors=Lynn Willis|title=Masks of Nyarlathotep|year=1996|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 1-56882-069-0}}
covering the groundwork general background to establish a context for understanding extra sensory phenomena in general needed to be done and it might as well happen at the [[Clairsentience]] page for now.....
 
*{{cite book|last=Gillian|first=Geoff|coauthors=|title=Tales of the Miskatonic Valley|chapter=Regiment of Dread|year=1991|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 0-933635-83-4}}
the reason i did it there was because fundamental doubts were being expressed about my earliest article`s conents were concerned implicitly announcing that the background for understanding extra sensory phenomena in general had not been done.... which was ... as remember saying to you a few weeks ago the frustrating context which motivated the writing of the second article with all of its references to the background research of brennan , lylle , mckenna , bohm , wilber , sheldrake etc......because this background had to be established before any specifics about clairsentience could even be begun to be aproached ....... thus the many weeks days and months of toil which has been endured to even get this background matereal into a wikpedia format and guidlines shape ...... all of which criterea have been met .... or at leasst were until the finished product was mindlessly deleted...
 
*{{cite book|last=Gillian|first=Geoff|coauthors=''et al''|title=Horror on the Orient Express|year=1991}}
the new additional altered states matereal was a tentative beginning into finding a context for tentatively describing the specifics of the clairsentience phenomena itself...
 
*{{cite book|last=Hallet|first=David|coauthors=L.N. Isinwyll|title=Dark Designs|chapter=Eyes for the Blind|year=1991|___location=|publisher=|id=}}
but , agian it was trashed with no thought or care....
 
*{{cite book|last=Hamblin|first=William|chapter=Thoth's Dagger|title=Different Worlds #27|year=1983}}
==clairsentience article redirect ?==
 
*{{cite book|last=Herber|first=Keith|chapter=Dead of Night|title=Arkham Unveiled|year=1990}}
Hi ..... whoever removed the clairsaentience article and made it redirect ... can you please try and respect that the article that was there had evolved over a couple of months of discussion and many rewrites and multiple edits which involved much discussion over a long period......
.........i could delete this clairvoyance article.... but i wont because revert and delete wars then stupidly take place which is a real shame when a library becomes a bar room brawl......
 
*{{cite book|last=Herber|first=Keith|title=The Fungi from Yuggoth|year=1984}}
..... i hope you can respect the clairsentience article...
 
*{{cite book|last=Herber|first=Keith|title=Return to Dunwich|year=1991}}
..... ive been clairsentient for most of my adult life and it wasnt easy to come this far and to struggle for decades to articulate my experience in a way which makes rational sense to the world at large of which the clairsentience article is a manifest example..... so please try and respect the vast amount of struggle and work which has gone into it....[[User:Thesource42|Thesource42]] 16:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 
*{{cite book|last=Johnson|first=Sam|title=A Resection of Time|year=1997|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 1-56882-095-X}}
-Current thinking in clairvoyant circles posits that most are born with clairvoyant abilities but then start to turn them off as children are brought up to adhere to demonstrable social norms. Numerous institutes offer training courses that attempt to revive the abilities present in those early years.-
 
*{{cite book|last=Lyons|first=Doug|coauthors=L.N. Isinwyll|chapter=One in Darkness|title=The Great Old Ones|year=1989|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium}}
to my opinion, this is true as I myself and most of my family have such ability although a weak version of it. To me, there's no such thing as lose of this ability but more of an evolution of the ability to suit, adapt and compansate the growth of the child and the person themself as I've saw this change in my own self although it's still a weak version of clairvoyance.
This is ability most can't belive as the effect and result is rather subjective and variable to the extend that neither could be reproduced in any manner unless for a particular person themself.
 
*{{cite book|last=Petersen|first=Sandy|authorlink=Sandy Petersen|chapter=The Rise of R'lyeh|title=Shadows of Yog-Sothoth|year=1982}}
personaly i believe what they say that we all are psychic just not psychics. i believe that we teach our selfs how to use this um ability. i have experienced all except for("seeing" through opaque objects) i am yet for that, that i know of they did not start for me till i was 14 for reasons i would not like to go into. i am also wondering if any of you happen to be like some of my friends who some share something like it in a way but not enought of it and for simmilar reasons and that we all seem to be coming up with a year i shall not specifi for other reasons but if you do please post here
 
*{{cite book|last=Petersen|first=Sandy|coauthors=John B. Monroe|chapter=The Ten Commandments of Cthulhu Hunting|title=The Cthulhu Casebook|year=1990}}
^^^^
What????????? I don't even understand what you're trying to say here, but this page is not for general discussion and personal experiences. It's for talking about the article itself.
 
*{{cite book|last=Ross|first=Kevin|title=Escape from Innsmouth|edition=2nd ed.|year=1997|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 1-56882-115-8}}
That said, this article is waaaaaay NPOV. What a joke!~`~~
 
*{{cite book|last=Williams|first=Chris|coauthors=Sandy Petersen|title=The Complete Dreamlands|edition=4th ed.|year=1997|___location=Oakland, CA|publisher=Chaosium|id=ISBN 1-56882-086-0}}
== Incorrect assumption about brain useage ==
 
===Notes===
"The vast majority of people only normally use one-third of their brains and one-third of their lungs." - this is either an incorrect or badly worded sentence. All humans use all of their brain, just not all at the same time. Automatic functions aside, the visual cortex is nowhere near the language or auditory sections of the brain. So unless a person is creating an opera while attempting to visually distinguish similar birds while being chased by a chainsaw wielding maniac during digestion... and even that wouldn't use the whole brain at once, but a fair amount of it. Point being, it's incorrect.
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http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_028.html and wikipedia's own [[Human_brain#Popular_misconceptions|Human Brain]]
 
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== Re: incorrect assumption about brain usage. ==
 
*[http://mythostomes.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid= "Nyarlathotep"], the original prose poem by H. P. Lovecraft
The articles that you have provided do not back up what you have stated. Please provide actual links to proven information that specifically states otherwise, Cecil is no expert on brain usage. The wiki article does not state information that directly falsifies what was stated in this entry.
 
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