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===[[Ballarat Cricket Association]]===

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Local sports organizations are not sufficiently notable for wikipedia entries, '''delete'''--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 03:52, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Creature_Name = Chupacabra

*'''Keep''', upon reflection, local sports organizations are [[wikipedia:importance|important]] enough for inclusion and necessary to coverage of amateur and children's sport in their area. Yes, I know there are a lot of them. Could be merged with [[Local sports in Ballarat]] if such an article appeared. [[User:Kappa|Kappa]] 04:58, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Image_Name = Chupacabras.JPG

*'''Delete''', not notable. [[User:Megan1967|Megan1967]] 06:59, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Image_Caption = Artist's depiction of a chupacabra

*'''Keep'''. Local sporting organizations are notable. Particularly so ones in major towns like this. --[[User:Centauri|Centauri]] 07:07, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Grouping = [[Cryptid]]<br>[[extraterrestrial life|Extraterrestrial]]

*'''Delete''', nn cricketcruft. [[User:ComCat|ComCat]] 08:46, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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*'''Delete''', local organizations are not inherrently notable, although I might be willing to change my vote if someone could show that they were either sufficiently large or operated outside of the Ballarat area. [[User:DaveTheRed|DaveTheRed]] 08:53, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Spanish Translation = Goat Sucker

*'''Keep'''. ''Local sporting organizations are notable. Particularly so ones in major towns like this.'' Add to that the fact that Ballarat is right at the heart of one of the world's major cricketing centres. The BCA is big enough to have hosted international matches (Ballarat played against the touring England team in 1933 - possibly the most infamous cricket tour of all time). Ballarat has hosted full international matches as recently as the 1990s. We're not talking just some small village sports team here... [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|^{[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]} [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 10:08, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Country = [[Puerto Rico]],<br>[[Mexico]],<br>[[United States]], [[Chile]],<br>[[Russia]]

**There have been many country towns that have hosted international touring matches, however the overseas sides that play these matches are usually not the first XI and the matches are not regarded as Test standard (England sides that play these matches are often always called MCC rather than England to denote that fact). Ballarat has never hosted a Test match. I'm looking at a map of Victoria and I dont understand your comment that Ballarat is "at the heart of one of the world's major cricketing centres" - if it was Ballarat it would standing in the middle of the MCG or SCG and that is physically impossible. [[User:Megan1967|Megan1967]] 10:25, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Region = Unknown

***Actually, England touring teams are now denoted England XI, to note the fact that it isn't a Test. <i>[[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]]&nbsp;(_{[[User talk:Smoddy|t]]}^{[[User:Smoddy/Greece gallery|g]]}_{[[Special:Emailuser/Smoddy|e]]}^{[[Special:Contributions/Smoddy|c]]})</i> 19:47, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|First_Reported = Early [[1990s]]

****I never said it was a ''test'' - I said a ''full international match''. England vs Sri Lanka, ODI, March 9, 1992, Ballarat CA Ground, Ballarat. It was one of the matches at the 1992 World Cup. At least four full international players have started their careers at Ballarat, too. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|^{[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]} [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 06:05, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

|Last_Sighted = Present Day

*'''Delete''', concur with Megan. Also, nearly every minor village has at least one sport organization. That doesn't make them notable. [[User:Radiant!|Radiant!]] 11:56, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

|Status = [[Legendary creature]]}}

**Since every minor village has an article, what are we going to say about them if we can't talk about their sport organizations? [[User:Kappa|Kappa]] 12:21, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

***Since there isn't anything interesting to say about the average sport organization, a brief mention in the article on the village itself would suffice. Think of how different your local hockey club might be from my local hockey club - chances are it isn't. [[User:Radiant!|Radiant!]] 13:05, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

****I think the chances are that it ''is''. Different date of foundation, different number of members, different frequency of play, different level of success, different age ranges, different male/female ratio, different facilities, different local rivals, different amount of training, different involvement with other local institutions... [[User:Kappa|Kappa]] 18:21, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

*****The question is, why does every minor village have to have an article? Unless there is some historical notability for the village, do we need an article for every one of them? [[User:Megan1967|Megan1967]] 04:57, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

****Ballarat is not a minor village. It is the second-largest city in the state of Victoria - a "village" of 90,000 people. And cricket is the major sport of the area.The equivalent in the UK, for instance, would be a sports club of the stature of, say, Leicester City football club. In the US, the equivalent might be whatever the basketball team in a city like Reno or Provo might be. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|^{[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]} [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]

*'''Keep''' - agree with reasons given above, [[User:Jguk|jguk]] 12:41, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan - <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT>]] 16:15, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

*<s>Could this not be merged with the Ballarat page? </s>[[User:Meelar|Meelar]] [[User talk:Meelar|(talk)]] 16:48, Mar 15, 2005 (UTC)

**It could, but it wouldn't fit very well IMO. [[User:Kappa|Kappa]] 00:31, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

***Change vote to '''keep''', Grutness has convinced me. Minor confusion over use of "Association"; I wasn't familiar with the usage. [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] [[User talk:Meelar|(talk)]] 22:13, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep''', merging doesn't seem suitable or appropriate. &mdash;[[en:RaD Man|'''RaD Man''']] ([[User_talk:Radman1|''talk'']]) 02:16, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. The Ballarat Cricket Association has hosted international cricket matches since [[Plum Warner]] took a team there in 1902-03. The England team went there at the height of Bodyline and there was controversy about remarks made during the luncheon. I have added this to the article and will add stuff about the one day international. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 09:12, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

**Now added more info about the world cup match and Ballarat hosting a match in the first tour by an English team to Australia in 1862 as well as the 1992 match. [[User:Capitalistroadster|Capitalistroadster]] 09:32, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

*'''''Marginal'' keep'''. Not entirely certain on this one. {{User:Alphax/sig}} 09:25, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

'''Chupacabra''' (also '''chupacabras''' /tʃupa'kabɾas/, from Spanish '''''chupar: to suck''''', '''''cabra: goat; goats sucker''''') is a [[cryptid]] said to inhabit parts of both of the [[Americas]]. It is associated particularly with [[Puerto Rico]] (where it was first reported), [[Mexico]], and the [[United States]], especially in the latter's [[Latin American]] communities. The name translates literally from the [[Spanish language|Spanish]] as "goat sucker." It comes from the creature's reported habit of attacking and drinking the blood of livestock, especially [[goat]]s. Physical descriptions of the creature vary. Eyewitness sightings have been claimed as early as 1990 in Puerto Rico, and have since been reported as far north as [[Maine]], and as far south as Chile. Though some argue that the chupacabras may be real creatures, mainstream scientists and experts generally contend that the chupacabra is a [[legendary creature]], or a type of [[urban legend]].

*'''Delete'''. Local sports organization seem to be on the same level as secondary schools: not notable merely through their existence. Regional sports organizations make the cut in my mind, but not local kids' leagues. [[User:Shimmin|Shimmin]] 22:09, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)

It is supposedly a heavy creature, the size of a small bear, with a row of spines reaching from the neck to the base of the tail.

**I've you'd taken the trouble to read as far as the end of the first sentence you would realise it is not just a children's league. [[User:Pcpcpc|Wincoote]] 13:59, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==History==

*'''Keep''', or '''merge''' with [[Ballarat]]. For local ones I would say delete, but this one serves the whole of Greater Ballarat, about 80,000 people. This is more a regional organisation. --[[User:Thebainer|bainer]] 05:37, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The legend of ''cipi chupacabra'' began approximately in [[1987]], when Puerto Rican newspapers ''[[El Vocero]]'' and ''[[El Nuevo Dia]]'' began reporting the killings of many different types of animals, such as birds, horses, and, as its name implies, goats. It is predated by ''El Vampiro de Moca'' (The Vampire of Moca), a creature blamed for similar killings that occurred in the small town of [[Moca, Puerto Rico|Moca]] in the 1970s. While at first it was suspected that the killings were done randomly by some members of a [[Satanic]] [[cult]], eventually these killings spread around the island, and many farms reported loss of animal life. The killings had one pattern in common: each of the animals had their bodies bled dry through a series of small circular incisions.

*'''Keep''', looks notable in its realm, after about a century and a half. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 05:42, Mar 18, 2005 (UTC)

Puerto Rican comedian and entrepreneur [[Silverio Pérez]] is credited with coining the term "chupacabras" soon after the first incidents were reported in the press.<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.crystalinks.com/chupacabras.html|title= Chupacabras Bio| accessdate=2007-05-10}}</ref> Soon after the animal deaths in Puerto Rico, other animal deaths were reported in other countries, such as the [[Dominican Republic]], [[Argentina]], [[Bolivia]], [[Chile]], [[Colombia]], [[Honduras]], [[El Salvador]], [[Panama]], [[Peru]], [[Brazil]], the United States and Mexico.

*'''Keep''' Snobbish anti-sport nomination, but it is established that Wikipedia covers sport in detail, not just the likes of physics and philisophy so all this sort of nomination does is create ill feeling and waste many users' time which might otherwise have been used to improve articles. [[User:Pcpcpc|Wincoote]] 13:57, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Alleged sightings==

In July 2004, a rancher near [[San Antonio]], killed a hairless dog-like creature, which was attacking his livestock. This creature is now known as the [[Elmendorf Creature]]. It was later determined to be a [[coyote]] with demodectic or sarcoptic [[mange]]. In October 2004, two animals said to resemble the Elmendorf Creature were supposedly observed in the same area. The first was dead, and a local zoologist who was called to identify the animal noticed the second while she was traveling to the ___location where the first was found. Specimens of the dead animals were studied by biologists in Texas, who found that the creatures were coyotes suffering from very severe cases of mange.<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.banderasnews.com/0603/art-chupacabra.htm| title=Texas' Blood-Sucking Monster| accessdate=2007-06-12}}</ref>

In [[Coleman, Texas]], a farmer named Reggie Lagow caught an animal in a trap he set up after the deaths of a number of his chickens and turkeys. The supposed animal was described as a mix between a hairless dog, a rat and a kangaroo. The animal was provided to Texas Parks and Wildlife in order to determine what species it belonged to, but Lagow reported in a September 17th, 2006, phone interview with John Adolfi, founder of the Lost World Museum, that the "critter was caught on a Tuesday and thrown out in Thursday's trash."<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4895053/detail.html|title=Texas Farmer Claims He Caught Legendary 'Chupacabra'|publisher=KNBC Los Angeles|date=[[2005-08-25]]}}</ref>

In April of 2006, ''MosNews'' reported that the chupacabra was spotted in Russia for the first time. Reports from Central Russia beginning in March 2005 tell of a beast that kills animals and sucks out their blood. Thirty-two turkeys were killed and drained overnight. Reports later came from neighboring villages when 30 sheep were killed and had their blood drained. Finally eyewitnesses were able to describe the chupacabra. In May of 2006, experts were determined to track the animal down.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/04/27/chupacabra.shtml|title=Chupacabra the Goatsucker Vampire Sightings Reported in Central Russia|publisher=MosNews|date=[[2006-04-17]]}}</ref>

In mid-August 2006 Michelle O'Donnell of [[Turner, Maine]], described an "evil looking" rodent-like creature with fangs that had been found dead alongside a road. The mystery beast was apparently struck by a car, and was otherwise unidentifiable. Photographs were taken and witness reports seem to be in relative agreement that the creature was canine in appearance, but unlike any dog or wolf in the area. The carcass was picked clean by vultures before experts could examine it. For years, residents of Maine have reported a mysterious creature and a string of dog maulings.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MYSTERY_BEAST?SITE=WWL&TEMPLATE=STRANGEHEADS.html&SECTION=HOME| title='Hybrid Mutant' Found Dead in Maine|publisher=Associated Press|date=[[2006-08-16]]}}</ref>

In December 2006, a local farmer in Peru claimed to have seen a creature resembling a Chupacabra attacking a wild boar on his farm. The man, who referred to the creature as "Zahir," later told the authorities that he feared for his life when he saw the creature devour the boar within minutes. The creature then ran faster than any animal the farmer had ever seen. Shocked at the sight of the creature, the farmer stated that he is haunted by the evil in the Zahir's eyes.

In May 2007, a series of reports on national Colombia news reported more than 300 dead sheep in the region of [[Boyaca]], and the capture of a possible specimen to be analysed by zoologists at [[Universidad Nacional]] of Colombia.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.eltiempo.com/nacion/boyaca/2007-05-02/ARTICULO-WEB-NOTA_INTERIOR-3539469.html| title=''Bestia' chupasangre asusta a los campesinos de Chiscas: ha matado 310 animales'|publisher=El Tiempo|date=[[2007-05-02]]}}</ref>

==Appearance==

The most common description of Chupacabra is a [[lizard]]-like being, appearing to have leathery or scaly greenish-gray skin and sharp spines or quills running down its back.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://skepdic.com/chupa.html|title=Chupacabras Biography|accessdate=2007-05-10}}</ref> This form stands approximately 3 to 4 feet (1 to 1.2 m) high, and stands and hops in a similar fashion to a [[kangaroo]]. In at least one sighting, the creature hopped 20 feet (6 m). This variety is said to have a dog or panther-like nose and face, a [[forked tongue]] protruding from it, large fangs, and to hiss and screech when alarmed, as well as leave a sulfuric stench behind. When it screeches, some reports note that the chupacabra's eyes glow an unusual red, then give the witnesses nausea. For some witnesses, it was seen with bat-like wings.<ref>{{cite web|title=Chupacabras=Giant Bat?|url=http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/chupa-giant-bat/| accessdate=2007-05-10}}</ref>

Another description of Chupacabra, although not as common, is described as a strange breed of wild dog. This form is mostly hairless, has a pronounced spinal ridge, unusually pronounced eye sockets, fangs, and claws. It is claimed that this breed might be an example of a dog-like reptile. The account during the year 2001 in [[Nicaragua]] of a chupacabra's corpse being found supports this conclusion. The corpse of the animal was found in [[Leon, Nicaragua]], and forensically analyzed at UNAN-Leon. Pathologists at the University found that it was an unusual-looking dog-like creature of unknown species.<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.uforc.com/chupas/journal2-UFORCE_page21.html| title=Chupacabras Remains Found| accessdate=2007-06-20}}</ref> Unlike conventional predators, the chupacabra is said to drain all of the animal's blood (and sometimes organs) through a single hole or two holes.

==See also==

*[[Cryptozoology]]

*[[Fauna of Puerto Rico]]

Similar creatures include:

*[[Banshee]]

*[[Demon]]

*[[Greys]]

*[[Jersey Devil]]

*[[Loveland Lizard]]

*[[Mothman]]

*[[Monkey-man of New Delhi]]

*[[Peuchen]]

*[[Skunk Ape]]

==References==

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==External links==

*[http://alienvideo.net/video-chupacabra.php Alleged video footage of a Chupacabra]

*[http://www.skepticworld.com/cryptozoology/chupacabra.asp Cryptozoology] - Skeptic World

*[http://www.lostworldmuseum.com Alleged photographic evidence of a Chupacabra]

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