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'''Northgate Mall''' is a [[shopping mall]] located just off [[Interstate 85|I-85]] and Gregson Street in [[Durham, North Carolina]]. The mall is situated close to [[Duke University]] and some of Durham's most attractive and upscale neighborhoods, including Trinity Park, Duke Park, and Watts-Hillandale.
== School psychologist qualifications ==
 
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I don't know who wrote this page, but no state lets you be a school psychologist with only a bachelors degree. First, it is unethical to use the term 'psychologist' unless you have a doctorate (check APA) and are licensed. Second, you cannot be a licensed school psychologist unless you have at least an educational specialist degree.
 
:*You need to provide your sources
:*Your edits should not contradict the references already cited, reputable references too.
:*Just because APA declars its unethical does not mean that it is illegal
:*Non-doctoral School Psychologists are allowed to join Division 16 of APA [[User:Whicky1978|whicky1978]] 05:39, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
 
== First psychologistTenants ==
 
Northgate is currently anchored by [[Macy's]] and [[Sears, Roebuck and Company|Sears]]. It also had an [[Old Navy]] as a sub-anchor, until its closure in July 2006. Other notable national tenants include [[Talbot's]], [[Lane Bryant]], and [[Bath and Body Works]].
I don't know anyone who considers Binet a school psychologist. Developing an IQ test does not defione one's career. More likely that [http://www.apa.org/books/4316930.html Lightner Witmer] is considered to be the first. Then again, given the evolution of the science of psychology - if you can call it a science at all - there isn't likely to be a "first" at all. Rather, school psychology is the culmination of several burgeoning fields mixed together in one big salad bowl. [[User:BrainDoc|BrainDoc]] 01:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
 
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Binet did practice in schools, and was interested in the application of his work to education. He did not, strictly speaking, develop an IQ test- this was Terman at Stanford, hence, the Stanford-Binet. He could be broadly considered a school psychologist, although he predated the term.
 
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The use of the term "psychologist" by nondoctoral "school psychologists" is the one exception allowed by APA. School psychologists should only refer to themselves as such when practicing in school settings.
 
Despite its many store closings as of late, the mall still has quite a bit to offer its patrons. In terms of Digital Media Entertainment there is an [[FYE]], an [[EB Games]] and a [[GameStop]], along with a locally owned online gaming center called [[Game Frog]]. It also had a [[Suncoast Video]], until that ___location went into liquidation in February 2006 and shut down two months later.
== Educational requirements ==
 
Recent patterns of store closings are reminiscent of [[South Square Mall]], which closed in 2002. These patterns seem indicative of a similar scenario occurring, although much of the changes Northgate has been experiencing are largely due to shifting demographics and prolonged construction of I-85 through Durham. The completion of I-85 construction, scheduled to take place in late 2006, along with other recent developments may help Northgate to a certain degree.
Is it true that you can have only a Bachelor's, or need a doctorate in some states? I will look into this because I don't believe that either is true.
 
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Tennessee requires only a Specialist in Education or Ed.S degree[[User:Whicky1978|whicky1978]] 20:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 
A [[Hudson-Belk]] store closed in [[2005]] and has been converted to a [[Phoenix Theaters]] stadium-seating cinema that features three of the largest screens in the Triangle metro area. Additionally, a number of exterior shops, including a [[Marble Slab Creamery]], are being added to the mall's exterior adjacent to the theater, in an effort to create an upscale outdoor shopping experience similar to other malls in the area. Construction work continues for the development of new stores and shopping in the new "plaza" section of the mall, with construction crews working on building out the rest of the new space in the mall. According to a member of the mall's security staff, between 10 and 15 tenants are signed to round out the plaza, which is reportedly scheduled to complete construction by early 2007.
Most states require a Master's degree plus 30 graduate credit hours. This, in turn, can earn an Ed.S., a CAGS, or raised eyebrows when explaining your lengthy graduate work that never earned anything more than the M.A. Some states require a supervised internship which can range from 300 hours to 1200 hours. An NCSP can be earned through NASP but it only earns the right to fork over $120 in dues every year to maintain it. [[User:BrainDoc|BrainDoc]] 02:00, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 
An adjacent strip-style plaza on the property's west side includes a new [[Guitar Center]], Durham's first, a regional cafeteria chain, and an [[Office Depot]] which opened on [[31 December]], [[2006]]. All of this work is part of a reported $16 million renovation to keep Northgate, Durham's oldest enclosed shopping mall, an attractive destination for shoppers.
== Relation to [[School psychology]] entry ==
 
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I recently noticed that [[school psychology]] redirected to [[educational psychology]], which is certainly not ideal. The entry has since been reverted to a previously-used stub, but before more work is done on it, I wonder how it should fit with [[school psychologist]]. Would it make more sense to combine them or can they co-exist without too much overlap? If they are combined, it makes most sense to me to bring them together under the entry for the field as a whole, not under the entry for the title of people working in the field.
*Sears (200,000 sq. ft.)
[[User:Tdowling|Tim]] 15:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
==External links==
*[http://www.northgatemall.com Northgate Mall]
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:Looking at the most related practitioner/discipline pairs, I would support two distinct articles. There seems to be enough information in these articles to expand the stub and justify complementary articles. Identifying notable school psychologists could be part of this expansion. [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup> 16:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
 
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:I have redirected [[school psychology]] perhaps I was hasty. I did not add or try to merge the two. But then again it was a stub.[[User:Whicky1978|whicky1978]]
 
My preference is to have just one article for school psychology/school psychology and one article for educational psychology/educational psychologist. Let's redirect ''school psychology'' to the ''school psychologist'' article [[User:Nesbit|Nesbit]] 14:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
I too would prefer that there be one article "school psychology" - this is the broader term - school psychology is a discipline with its own knowledge base, as well as practitioners. "School psychology" should emphasize the discipline, "school psychologist" the practitioners. [[User:jdmacdonald2]]
 
:If articles were to be merged, the concept of "discipline" seems to be more basic than the concept of "practioner," IMHO. Wikipedia classification schemes are much stronger in the area of disciplines, using people subcategories of them when warranted. If we were to consistently merge all three pairs above (not that I'm suggesting it), I believe "[[Psychology]] - [[Educational psychology]] - [[School psychology]]" as article titles ''with the corresponding emphasis on discipline'' to be preferred over "[[Psychologist]] - [[:Category:Educational psychologists|Educational psychologists]] - [[School psychologist]]" as titles and emphases. [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup> 16:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
:: I agree that discipline (rather than member of the discipline) is more common as the central focus for WP articles. For example, educational psychologist is a simple redirect to the article on educational psychology. One could make the argument that school psychology is an exception because it is such an applied discipline, but I don't have a strong opinion on whether the article should be titled ''school psychologist'' or ''school psychology''. In any case, there should be two separate articles, one for educational psychology and one for school psychology. [[User:Nesbit|Nesbit]] 17:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
I would point out that articles such as [[teacher]] and [[professor]] are titled as practioner rather than discipline. I guess it would seem funny to say professorship. I try to have a more occupational focus on [[school counselor]], [[school psychologist]], and [[school social worker]].[[User:Whicky1978|whicky1978]] 21:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
::My actual preference is to have ''six'' articles for the topics we've been discussing! :-) I'm just saying that ''if'' a pair gets merged, I prefer the "discipline" version of the title. Then, I would place any "practitioner"-specific info under a top-level heading. I also support keeping school psychology and educational psychology separate under any scenario. In the case of "teaching," the "discipline" would be more like [[physical education]], etc., such as listed under the [[List of academic disciplines#Education|Education disciplines]]. [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup> 22:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Rfrisbie, to prove how unconventional your thinking is I did a quick survey of WP and found that you may actually be in the majority. The disciplines which have separate discipline and practitioner articles include [[physics]], [[chemistry]], [[biology]], [[psychology]], [[chemistry]] and [[economics]]. Those which have a single article include [[anthropology]], [[sociology]], and [[paleontology]]. I note, however, that the practitioner articles (e.g., [[economist]]) look much further away from FA status than their discipline-focused partners (e.g., [[economics]]). [[User:Nesbit|Nesbit]] 23:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 
::::Lumping me with the majority! Was that a put-down? :-) [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup> 00:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 
::::Not at all... WP obviously owes its one-million article success to splitters like you, not lumpers like me. :-) [[User:Nesbit|Nesbit]] 03:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
 
:::::Chalk it up to short attention span. Does that go under generic, educational or school pyschology? ;-) [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup> 03:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC) p.s. What was the question? [[User:Rfrisbie|Rfrisbie]]<sup>[[User_talk:Rfrisbie|talk]]</sup>