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== [[Buttrock]] legit? ==
To my surprise, it looks like [[Buttrock]] is a legitimate term. Could you [[Talk:Buttrock|check my reasoning]] and let me know if I'm being too generous? Thanks, --[[User:William Pietri|William Pietri]] 16:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I would tend to suggest an AfD, and let the community at large decide. I still think it's undeserving of an entry, but maybe others actually find it useful.
**I just realized this already was AfD, so I posted a comment to the article's AfD page. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 04:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
== Have you dealt with MostWanted05 or the 86.xxxx user?==
I have no choice, I will report this person to the Wikipedia commitee. He choose to continue the "think I own this site" excuse "over-and-over" again! [[Wikipedia:Requests for comment/user:MostWanted05]] Any thoughts? Thanks.
[[User:LILVOKA|LILVOKA]]. 31 May 2006 04:33 (UTC)
*Response: I seem to vaguely remember this user, but not enough to be able to comment on him. Wish I would be of more help.
== Plentyoffish ==
Per comments already posted (I'm not sure how TALK works) this does read like an ad. It speaks about nothing but the good, and how much income the author makes. Any attempt to focus even the slightest bit of negativity, and the entries are deleted by an IP located in British Columbia. Sugest POF ad be deleted or allow both pro and con entires to stand.
[[User:Ghosttowns|Ghosttowns]] 11:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)ghosttowns[[User:Ghosttowns|Ghosttowns]] 11:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I'm not sure if you're approving or rejecting my Prod tag, but in any case, the article seems without merit. If you have any complaint with my prod tag, I would suggest you change it to an AfD and allow the community at large to discuss it. As far as I'm concerned, it's an extremely short article with little relevance to anything. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 11:07, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
== Manitoba disambiguation page ==
Hi, there's 1+ problem user on the [[Manitoba (disambiguation)|Manitoba disambiguation page]] (I think you may be aware of this). I (and several others) repeatedly add an entry (for musician Dan Snaith's former recording moniker ("Manitoba")) but it is as frequently deleted. What's the appropriate way to deal with this? I posted a similr query on a 3-revert rule page a couple of days ago but haven;t seen a reply. Thanks [[User:Hu Gadarn|Hu Gadarn]] 16:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I noticed that it is always an unregistered IP, and they were even deleting the hyperlink markup that I was adding to their OWN entries! The only suggestion I could make is to have it protected from non-registered users' edits, but I don't know if an admin will go for it. Here's the link to that policy: [[Wikipedia:Protection policy]]. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 02:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I did this (request protection), which seems to work for the unregistered vandal. However, "Urbanshocker" is now vandalising the [[Caribou (musician)]] page in a similar vein as the previous vandalism on the two pages ([[Manitoba (disambiguation)]] and [[Caribou (musician)]]. Perhaps this is the same person as the unregistered vandal.[[User:Hu Gadarn|Hu Gadarn]] 07:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
== Welcome to [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof|VandalProof!]] ==
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, NMChico24! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof|download and install VandalProof from our main page]]. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other [[User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof#Moderators|moderator]], or you can post a message on [[User:AmiDaniel/VP/Discuss|the discussion page]]. [[User:Computerjoe|Computerjoe]][[User talk:Computerjoe|<span style="color:red">'s talk</span>]] 15:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
== fahrenheit 9/11 ==
Alan,
Please do not call the movie a documentary in the first line. Let's stick to comedy. Calling it a documentary is an insult to too many *serious* documentary makers, because a documentary must *first and foremost* be factual and truthful, and it is very clear that there are *way too many* issues with this work. But it is undeniably funny, and this is an effect that Moore has sought, and undeniably succeeded at. I insist on using something along the following lines:
'''''Fahrenheit 9/11''''' is an award-winning comedy by [[United States|American]] filmmaker and [[liberal]] activist [[Michael Moore]], which had a general release in the [[United States]] and [[Canada]] on [[June 25]], [[2004]] in the run up to that year's [[United States presidential election, 2004|presidential election]]. Though sometimes classified as a documentary, the film steps away from the conventions of this genre and employs a heavy dose of [[satire|satirical]] [[black humour]], but there are also, arguably, misrepresentations and hyperbole in this work. Moore himself has called the film as an "[[Op-Ed|op-ed]] piece" while vehemently defending its factual accuracy. "
Let's not try to have it both ways, first calling it a documentary, and then saying it steps away from the conventions of the genre!!
Thank you for your help. I think my proposal is very balanced and reasonable for "both sides", which is a requirement for a good encyclopedia.
Best regards,
Michael Ausems,
Paris, France
*Response: I reverted your first edit because it was entirely in French, in the English Wikipedia, which for obvious reasons is inappropriate. Second, if you wish to consider it a comedy, that's fine. But it is generally classified as a documentary, no matter what your political persuasion. We need to keep within the guidelines of [[wp:npov]], and as such, calling something a comedy when it's classified otherwise strays from that guideline. Therefore, I stand by my decision, but I also abide by [[Wikipedia:Three-revert rule|wp:3rr]], so I will let someone else intervene if necessary. Thank you for your comment, and as always, I appreciate any feedback you have to offer. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 09:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
== Overzealous use of VandalProof ==
I was browsing through RC when I noticed that both you and [[User:Winhunter|Winhunter]] reverted edits by an anonymous poster to the page [[Analogman]] using that program. The problem is, that was a perfectly legitimate edit he/she was making, deleting a spurious refference to some troll on a Wilco messageboard that had no place in the article. I don't know just how much info the program gives you on the nature of the post you're reverting. If you really looked at it, and think that sort of thing belongs there, than that's one thing. Otherwise you're just replacing garbage left their by a different anonymous poster in a snowballing effect. [[User:Icelight|Icelight]] 15:25, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: Oops... my bad. I should have read it more thoroughly. It looked like the IP was just blanking a section randomly. --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 21:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
== Thanks ==
Thanks for the welcome! --[[User:Mr. Trustegious|Mr. Trustegious]] 09:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: Sure thing! Feel free to ask me any questions you might have. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 03:52, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
== article deletion ==
Wait, you just added a tag, giving the reason for the deletion. Its a bit confusing. It say:
*It is a talk page of a page which does not exist (CSD G8).
What were you refering to? The article? [[User:SynergeticMaggot|Zos]] 02:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: The article no longer exists, so I requested speedy deletion of the talk page. That's standard procedure for an orphaned talk page. Hope this helps! --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 02:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
:I had just recreated that article though. So it did exist. [[User:SynergeticMaggot|Zos]] 02:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
::When I submitted the talk page for deletion, the main article was no longer there. Someone had already removed it. I deliberately checked for that before I submitted for the talk page to be removed. --[[User:NMChico24|Alan]] 02:59, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
==Question==
Will you edit my user page, too? {{unsigned|Ansaul}}
*Response: I'm not sure what you mean. I'm going around welcoming newcomers, as I've done with you. Is this what you're referring to, or were you asking for assistance in creating a user page? --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 05:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, thanks, but you could do that too... {{unsigned|Ansaul}}
*Response: The links in the welcome message should help you out a lot with contributing. You can also see [[Wikipedia:User_page]] for some further info on user pages. It's also helpful to look at the source of others' user pages by clicking "edit this page" at the top. Just make sure not to save anything on someone else's page.<br><br>Also, as a side note, make sure to include 4 tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after any comments you make to talk pages, which creates a signature for your comment.<br><br>Let me know if you have any other questions. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 05:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
== Hey ==
What did you edit on the bleed yellow page?
Leave a message on bleed yellow, kkk... {{unsigned|72.128.195.198}}
*Response: I left a speedy delete tag on the page as the band does not appear to meet [[Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Articles|CSD:A7]]. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 22:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
== A short Esperanzial update ==
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on [[WT:ESP|the ''Esperanza'' talk page]] as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AEsperanza%2FCharter&diff=59977509&oldid=52572171 See what happened]. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace [[User:JoanneB|JoanneB]] and [[User:Pschemp|Pschemp]] and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on [[2006-07-02]] and last until [[2006-07-09]]. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before [[2006-07-02]]. For more details, see [[Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections]].
Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —[[user:Celestianpower|Cel]]<font color="green">[[User:Celestianpower/Esperanza|es]]</font>[[User:Celestianpower|tianpower]] <sup>[[user talk:Celestianpower|háblame]]</sup> 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
== Religious view-tainted changes?... ==
Deleting the H. Ray Collver article was a big mistake. Keep your religious views out of your editing changes in Wikipedia, please. It is quite clear that you're not really religious, but that does not mean you are allowed to callously select articles for deletion. Please think again next time. {{unsigned|12.40.161.138}}
*Response: My decision to nominate the article for deletion had nothing to do with my religious views. The article only made two main points regarding the subject: he was a pastor and a veteran. While this is admirable, it's not necessarily ''notable''. Please see [[Wikipedia:Notability (people)]] for more info. Thanks! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 21:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
== [[David Devenish]] ==
Hello. You tagged the above article for speedy deletion. Unfortunately, it does not qualify for speedy deletion, as it asserts a claim to notability, and is not a repost of deleted material. If you believe the article does not belong on Wikipedia, please consider going via [[WP:PROD]] or [[WP:AFD]]. Regards, [[User:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">Proto</span>]]<I><B>/</B>/<B>/</B></I><small>[[User_talk:Proto|<span style="text-decoration:none">type</span>]]</small> 23:13, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: Actually, according to the deletion log, this article was deleted with the following note: ''15:37, 24 June 2006 Royboycrashfan deleted "David Devenish" (A7)''. Therefore, it technically was reposted content, although it had been speedily deleted, which may or may not always count. I appreciate the follow-up! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 23:21, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
== Purifying Drink ==
My bad, very new to this and procedure, I think I got it now *wink* {{unsigned|Cadillacula}}
== Vandalism warnings ==
Hi, I notice you left a warning on [[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4]]'s talk page stating that M1ss1ontomars2k4 had removed vandalism warnings from the talk page. I can see no evidence of this. In addition the warning itself was malformed. Could you point me to specific diffs that show the alleged removal of warnings from M1ss1ontomars2k4's talk page? If not I can only assume this is a mistake. I have reverted your edit to M1ss1ontomars2k4's talk page, for now at least. Thanks, [[User:Gwernol|Gwernol]] 13:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I have no idea what happened. I am still fairly new to using Vandal Proof, and I can only assume I hit the wrong button or something. Thanks for catching that! I've also left an apology on the user's talk page. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 21:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Vandal Warning ==
I thought it must have been an accident...most likely VP goofed. You can try discussing this problem with AmiDaniel if you want. --[[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4|M1ss1ontom]]<font color="green">[[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4/Esperanza|a]]</font>[[User:M1ss1ontomars2k4|rs2k4]] <sup>([[User talk:M1ss1ontomars2k4|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/M1ss1ontomars2k4|C]] | [[Special:Emailuser/M1ss1ontomars2k4|@]])</sup> 21:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
== Quick ? ==
The "Waybest Foods" article, whats wrong with it? What would you suggest to make it non-ad like? I think its fairly NPOV. [[User:EllG73|EllG73]] 05:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)ellg73
*Response: It just kind of sounded like an ad to me. Now that I've reread it, perhaps a better tag would be expansion or stub. Feel free to change the tag if you want. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 05:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
== redirect ==
How do I make a redirect?
--[[User:Sa zbarsky|Sa zbarsky]] 16:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
*Response: The easiest way to make a redirect is to (with the page completely empty) click the "#R" button above the Subject/headline field, which results in this: <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[Insert text]]</nowiki>. Just replace "Insert text" with the name of the page you're redirecting to, and voila! Let me know if you have any other questions. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 22:02, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Child Bite]] ==
I appreciate your comment on the AFD for [[Child Bite]]. Fact is, I placed db-band on the page, but one of your counterparts overrode it. So it's going through an obligatory AFD. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 09:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and thank you for signing my deletion reason for me. I can't believe I neglected that. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 09:58, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
:Hmmm, a small difference of opinion in the deletion of the page but basic agreement in the lack of notability of the subject. Thanks for letting me know, I will change to a basic delete. No worries about the signature, I have done it myself before now! <span style="border: 1px solid #800080;">[[User:(aeropagitica)|<font style="background: #800080" face="Ariel" color="#FFFFFF">''' (aeropagitica) '''</font>]][[User talk:(aeropagitica)|<font style="background:#FFFFFF" face="Ariel" color="#800080">''' (talk) '''</font>]]</span> 10:02, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
::The "fmt" edit to [[Wild Feast]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wild_Feast&diff=61346075&oldid=61331618 here] is Wikipedia shorthand for "formatting the page". I had to set it up as an album page should be done, but at the same time also removed the trivia which isn't needed. I was using the [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]] function, specifically [[Wikipedia:Edit summary legend|accepted abbreviations]]. Hope this helps. [[User:Harro5|Harr]][[WP:EA|<font color="green">o</font>]]<b>[[User talk:Harro5|5]]</b> 21:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
== [[Othernames (disambiguation)]] ==
I think this page was created by a user who meant to create [[Michael Neary (disambiguation)]] and user {{[[Template:othernames|othernames]]}} on the main [[Michael Neary]] article, but got confused somehow. I thought moving the page in line with what was likely intended was a better solution than deleting it (which I couldn't technically do within [[WP:CSD]] anyway). Note that it's just fine to have redlinks on disambiguation pages, because now we know there's a Michael Neary we don't have an article on yet and a little bit of information to get started. In general, please do try to fix up problem articles if at all possible, rather than get rid of them. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 22:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
*My Response: The response I get to this sort of thing always seems to depend on which admin reviews it. I personally see no reason to have a disambiguation page for articles that don't exist. It would be better to submit a request for the redlinked article, have it be written, and then create a disambiguation page when true ambiguity finally exists. But, of course, that's just my humble opinion on the matter, which may or may not relate to reality in any way :-) --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 23:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
**It's a legitimate point of disagreement, which is why speedy deletion would have been a bad thing, because the chance to discuss would have been lost. Fortunately, in their wisdom the writers of [[WP:CSD]] did not include either "disambig page with mostly redlinks" or "misnamed page" among the criteria. Treatment of speedy deletion does vary by admin, but I like to follow the letter of the law, and I send polite reminders to other admins to do the same; I do this because borderline cases benefit from further input and discussion, and we're generally not in a hurry to delete such articles. You're welcome, of course, to put the article in question up for AfD or used [[WP:PROD|proposed deletion]]. -- [[User:SCZenz|SCZenz]] 06:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
== Root ==
How do I make a square root sign?--[[User:Sa zbarsky|Sa zbarsky]] 21:01, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
*Response: Place the following: <nowiki><math>\sqrt x</math></nowiki>, replacing "x" with a number or equation. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (mathematics). --NMChico24 21:05, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
== How are your links relevant? ==
Chico, I see that you are quick to support a deletion of the veotag insertion to wikipedia. after reviewing your about page, I am having a hard time reconciling your external links including "Daily Rotten Weird News" as relevant and worthwile to be included in wikipedia. You give the appearance of being at odds with notable and not notable content. I would be interested in how your reconcile your choices? {{unsigned|69.142.234.133}}
*Response: You're comparing apples and oranges. What is appropriate for a [[Wikipedia:User page|User page]] may not be appropriate for the main encyclopedia. The links I provide on my User page give others an idea of what kind of material I find interesting, which gives relevant info about myself as a contributor. Were I to post my favorite links to the main encyclopedia, I would be spamming. I fail to see why you would even compare the two ideas. For more info, please click the User page link I've provided. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 01:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
== Jgk computer solutions ==
I noticed you seconded the prod for [[Jgk computer solutions]]. Just thought I'd let you know the creator removed the prod tags, so I sent it to AFD. The entry is [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jgk computer solutions|here]]. Thanks! <font color="green">[[User:Szyslak|szyslak]]</font> <small>([[User talk:Szyslak|t]], [[Special:Contributions/Szyslak|c]], <font color="green">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|e]]</font>)</small> 06:22, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I have added comments to the discussion. Thanks for the feedback. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 08:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
== [[WP:SNIPE|VandalSniper]] ==
You've been approved to use VandalSniper. Please let me know if you have any problems getting it working. --[[User:Crazycomputers|Chris]] [[User talk:Crazycomputers|(talk)]] 07:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
== [[Homebush Boys High School]] ==
This has been majorly vandalised again. Are you in a position to revert easily? [[User:Albatross2147|Albatross2147]] 22:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
*Response: I've reverted the vandalism. Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 23:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
==Thumb Wrestling article==
Why do you think it's vanity when it's clearly a notable professional thumb wrestling organization? As such, don't you think it at least needs inclusion in the thumb wrestling article? --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 02:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
*Response: You've yet to demonstrate how it's notable. The article even states that it began earlier this year. It doesn't sound like it's had any time to become notable. As such, if you created the organization and you're promoting it, it's vanity. Pure and simple. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 02:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**How else do you want it to get promoted? George Halas promoted the NFL back when it first started and he was a cofounder. Look where it is now. Would you call that vanity? I'm not promoting the ITWA to stroke my ego but to get the word "out on the street", so to speak. Somebody has to promote it. --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 02:48, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
***Wikipedia is not a venue for promotion. It is an encyclopedia. An encyclopedia chronicles well-established, well-known subjects. Your association is neither. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 02:55, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
****It's known well enough to get a writer from the Toronto Sun (a newspaper from another country no less) to take notice and actually write a full length article about it. If that's not notable enough for a Wikipedia article, I don't know what is. I mean, we have articles about window tinting for crying out loud and you think the ITWA isn't notable enough? Anyway, I'm going to bed. Good night and I'll check when I can tomorrow. --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 03:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
***Notability is not demonstrated from a single newspaper article, no matter how notable the newspaper. Once your organization has held several high-profile championships which receive national coverage, then it may be noteworthy enough for an encyclopedia. Have a good night. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 03:04, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
****Question before bed: Why are you so fervently trying to get this deleted when I've clearly asked for a little more time to establish notability, especially when you don't establish adminship anywhere? --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 03:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
***You don't have to be an admin to request that deficient articles be deleted. Part of how a Wiki works is that content is being constantly scrutinized by many different people, which results in some of it being updated/corrected/improved, and an awful lot of it being thrown out. If you want to contribute material that survives this process, I suggest you contribute well-researched content about subjects which have already established their notability, rather than attempting to use the project to establish notability for the subject. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 03:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
****I already know that you don't have to be admin to request something be deleted, but the question is why chase after it's deletion so hard when I already said I was going to add more to it in the very near future? --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 10:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
****For me it's because this one-man, made up association has only 21 Google hits, has been properly deleted once before, and is a waste of our time. I wish this editor would move on to something more useful. [[User:Rklawton|Rklawton]] 04:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
*****Had you ready the wikiarticle (what was there of it) and then the article from the Toronto Sun, you would have found out that it's more than just me. Thanks for reading. ;-) --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 10:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
******I don't know whether you're directing your comment to myself or to Rklawton, however I actually did read the article. As I've mentioned, I am unconvinced that a single newspaper article conveys notability. Also, I realize it's more than just yourself involved in the project. My opinion on the matter stands firm. Your organization has neither the tenure nor the national/worldwide recognition to warrant entry in the encyclopedia. 'Nuff said. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 21:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
********It was directed towards Rklawton. --[[User:Slyder Pilot|<span style="color: blue; font-family: Times New Roman; font-variant: small-caps;">Slyder Pilot</span>]]<sup>[[WP:EA|<span style="color: #228B22;">E@</span>]]</sup> 01:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
== history books? ==
Wikipedia has events listed that happened today. Many listings on this website don’t deserve to be listed in the 'history books' Furthermore, who are you to judge whether listings should be removed? How is my listing any less relevant that half of the listings of Wikipedia? Does the amount of time that has passed since the formation of said brewery really affect anything, especially if it does have important local impact?
*I am a Wikipedian, therefore I have all the right in the world to judge and modify articles. You have the same right. That's the point of the review process. If you feel the article should stay, go to the deletion discussion [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Bob's Brewery|page]] and state your case. Others will do the same, and depending on community consensus, the article will either stay or go. As for my comment, I simply believe the brewery has not had time to establish wide notability, which is what is necessary to be included in an encyclopedia in my (and many [[Wikipedia:Notability|others']]) opinion. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 03:43, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**Also, I have revised the wording in my comment on your article's deletion discussion to be clearer and more appropriate. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 04:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
== RE: Wintermute Music ==
Did you even read my reasoning before you deleted my entry? I do not mean to be a pain here, but I do intend to further pursue this. I have lost respect for the Wiki, which I thought was a continuation of the revolution in media and how people obtain knowledge. While you are very open in some area and I do fully appricate your concerns you are censoring an Artist that is played all over the Internet is a first page hit on a search for "Wintermute Music" and a 2nd page for Wintermute and has been making and distributing music on the Internet for over 6 years... [[User:Wintermute0010|Wintermute0010]] 09:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
*I am not the one who deleted your entry. I simply nominated it. The entry was reviewed by myself and others, found to be lacking in the credibility and noteworthiness for inclusion in an encyclopedia, and then reviewed again by an administrator prior to deletion. If you have a problem with the way the deletion was handled, feel free to visit [[Wikipedia:Deletion review]]. Thanks! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 04:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**My apologies, I did not mean to be so quick to point the finger. I am just frustrated by your ( Wiki's ) critrea for Notabily in regards to Music/Musical groups. I will take this up with the page you referenced. I do not know what the answer is in regards to recognizing legitimate Internet Musical artist, but I do know, myself included, that there are a great many who do deserve mention/entry into the Wikipedia. [[User:Wintermute0010|Wintermute0010]] 09:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
***What you have to bear in mind is that artists must already have an established following before they can be listed here. I realize that you may know of a really great up-and-coming artist, or may be one yourself. But until the artist becomes known among a large following and receives some national attention, an article about that artist is most likely going to be deleted. This article may help, as it describes what Wikipedia is and is not: [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia]]. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 04:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**So national attention, meaning that they are part of the same musical system that mp3.com and others that are trying to change how things in the music world work wanted absolutely no part of and are currently still fighting? Is the Internet not it's own nation? Explain to me how this line of reasoning ( that an artist doesn't deserve recognition unless they are "nationally" recognized ) When the very _existence_ of the Wikipedia is because you and ppl who follow you are trying to change the way knowledge is gathered and published. You are doing the _exact_ same thing that mp3.com ( which has a very large entry here ). Should I even bother trying to write an article about the new music revolution, or is that event not going to be concidered "significant"?<br><br>Your criteria completely plays into the RIAA and the recording industies wishes, that only Artists that they support ( and therefore control ) are the only "legitimate" music ppl should listen to. Because short of being on NPR that is the only way I know to get "National" recognition of an artist in the USA. [[User:Wintermute0010|Wintermute0010]] 09:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
***You're not writing about a revolution, you're promoting an unknown band. Of course the band does not have to have renown via the traditional "get a recording contract, make records, go on tour" route. Perhaps the band will become well known as one that defied the RIAA standard and became famous despite it. But it does need to become famous to be present in an encyclopedia. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 05:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**''Of course the band does not have to have renown via the traditional "get a recording contract, make records, go on tour" route'', ok, then based on your critera mentioned in WP:Music what would be another way(route) to get you to recognize an Internet band? Do you need to have all the fans flood you with requests? I am honestly curious and not trying to cause a problem because I do not see what your critera is here when you say the band is "unknown". The [[The Residents]] are an example of a band that would be "unknown" to a majority of the general public but yet have a 30 year careeer and a very large entry on here. Please realize, nothing in the article was even close to "promotion" there were no links to sites or anything like that it was just information that fans would find interesting. I am glad I didn't write more as it would have been demoralizing to talk about the band in detail only to have it deleted. Please understand, I appreciate your time in this, and in no way am I trying to be a problem. [[User:Wintermute0010|Wintermute0010]] 09:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
***I believe I've made my position on this fairly clear. If no one has heard of you, there's no reason for you to be chronicled in an encyclopedia. I'm going to go ahead and end this discussion now. Good luck! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 21:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
**No one has heard of Wintermute?... ummm check out the charts on tagworld.com ( over 2 million ppl are there and over 8,000 bands have posted songs and websites there--it is social web like myspace ( you have heard of myspace, yes? ) Tagworld was a major sponser of SXSW. Wintermute is charting in the top 40-60 out of 8,000 bands. Look and see what "notable" bands and acts are in that top 100... www.tagworld.com and click on the "Music" tab at the top and then hit the "All" link under the Browse by Artist/Band on the left hand side of the page. Wintermute has been in that top 20-60 chart position since December of last year--that has been because tens of thousands of ppl in that community have heard Wintermute and added Wintermute music to their sites there. You didn't answer my question about if I should bother writing an article about the "New Music Revolution". I do not want to spend a long time writing an article on something if this is how it is going to be treated ( the reason I only did a stub for Wintermute ).<br><br>I really am not trying to ruffle feathers here, I am just trying to make a case that your critera for notably music/artists is--ironically--competely ignoring the Internet community as a source of music and musical artists. I would like to know what research was done before you decided that "no on has heard of you" was your reasoning. I know you said you consulted with other editors, but what research was done? outside of your WP:Music page?--which you said above ( and is said in the page itself that the critera is a more or less guide line--'''This page gives some rough guidelines which we might use to decide if a musical topic is notable.''';'''Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. An article that fails to even claim that the subject of the article is notable can be speedy deleted under criterion A7, however. A mere claim of notability, even if contested, may avoid deletion under A7 and require a full Article for Deletion process to determine if the subject of the article is notable.''' I couldn't even protest in the "Article for Deletion" process as the Talk page was gone as well. I feel like I am being treated like a 14 year old kid here ( am nearly 40 btw ) I have tried to be nothing but respectful in this dialog and have provided lenghtly arugments to try and discuss this. I have been met with short answers that boarder on quips: "If you have a problem with the way the deletion was handled, feel free to visit...", "...I'm going to go ahead and end this discussion now. Good luck!...", "You're not writing about a revolution, you're promoting an unknown band..." To me,these responses are short and show little-to-no tolerance. Honestly, at this point, I would be amazed if you didn't just drop this and never answer any of the questions I have respectfully asked. [[User:Wintermute0010|Wintermute0010]] 09:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
***You're correct. I'm no longer interested in discussing this issue. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 08:21, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
== [[Charles Buell Anderson]] ==
Hi, you voted recently to delete this article. The final outcome of that AfD was ''no consensus''. There were several mentions of merging the two articles together and I originally placed a merge tag on the article as disputed (due to several people voting to delete it). In the discussion of that article recently, an editor has shown the desire to merge the two articles. I am letting you know because the status of the merge tag is no longer disputed, and I am advising all of the editors who voted against that. Thanks. [[User:Ste4k|Ste4k]] 01:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
== Denver 2008 ==
Hey, how's it goin'? I'm gathering support from Wikipedian Democrats to help bring the [[2008 DNC]] to my hometown of [[Denver]]. If your interested, just post {{tl|User Denver2008}} on your page. Anyhow, have a good one. [[User:Editor19841|Editor19841]] 23:53, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
*Response: Denver is one of my favorite cities, so I've posted your userbox to my page. Especially since it tends to be a "red" state, I can think of no more appropriate place for it... cept maybe Kansas... --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 11:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
::[[Rocky Mountain High]]! It's great to have your support in the effort to bring the DNC home to the west in 2008. Believe me, I'm a native Denverite, and I can tell you that Denver is the best place for the centennial convention ([[1908 Democratic National Convention|Denver first and last hosted the DNC in 1908]], and [[Colorado|Colorado is the Centennial State]]). It would greatly help the efforts of the campaign if you can help us out at all with the promotion of "[[:Category:Wikipedians for Denver 2008|Wikipedians for Denver 2008]]" any way you can. If you've got any questions or comments, I can always be reached through [[User talk:Editor19841|my talk page]]. Anyhow, thanks for your support, have a good one. [[User:Editor19841|Editor19841]] 20:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
== Steve Schuh ==
The bio i have listed for Steve Schuh is not publicizing he is running for political office. While his bio has been slated for deletion there are other candidates both elected officials and those running for first time who have NOT BEEN marked for deletion.
*Response: It's true that there are tonnes of junk on here that need to be marked for deletion. Give me time to get around to it all! :-) Cheers! --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 11:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Schuh is a noted authority nationally on health industry finance. I respectfully request that his bio with no political reference remain listed.
*Reponse: Then post your arguments to the AFD page. Your input will be reviewed before a decision is made on the article, and if you're persuasive enough, you might get people to change their minds. I've done it before. --[[User:NMChico24|NMChico24]] 11:49, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Sincerely,
Gene Deems
genedeems@yahoo.com {{unsigned|71.206.9.237}}
== [[Ave Rats]] ==
Where is the AfD page for this article? I checked [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ave Rats]], and you can see it isn't there. '''[[User:Calgacus|Calgacus]] (''[[User talk:Calgacus|ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ]]'')''' 19:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
:OK, don't worry, I see what's going on now. '''[[User:Calgacus|Calgacus]] (''[[User talk:Calgacus|ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ]]'')''' 19:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
== [[User:NMChico24/s]] ==
This page has been deleted, as requested. <span style="border:1px solid #808;padding:1px;">[[User talk:(aeropagitica)|<font style="color:#fff;background:#808;">''' (aeropagitica) '''</font><font style="color:#808;background:#fff;">''' (talk) '''</font>]]</span> 05:54, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
*Thank you — [[User:NMChico24|<font color=#3D59AB>'''NM'''</font>]][[User_talk:NMChico24|<font color=#3D59AB>'''Chico'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/NMChico24|<font color=#3D59AB>'''24'''</font>]] [[Image:Flag of New Mexico.svg|25px]] 08:46, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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