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image_skyline_caption = Barcelona from the air |
native_name = Barcelona|
spanish_name = Barcelona |
nickname = Ciutat Comtal (Catalan)<br>|
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community = Catalonia |
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mayor = Jordi Hereu i Boher|
political_party = PSC|
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date-population = 2006|
population - metro = 5,324,763|
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'''Barcelona ''' ([[Catalan language|Catalan]] {{IPA2|bəɾsəˈlonə}}, [[Spanish language|Spanish]] {{IPA2|baɾθeˈlona}}), '''برشلونة''' ([[Arabic language|Arabic]]: '''Barshlounah,''') is the capital and most populous city of [[Catalonia]] and the second largest city in [[Spain]], with a population of 1,605,602 in 2006. It is located on the [[Mediterranean Sea|Mediterranean]] coast ({{coor dm|41|23|N|2|11|E|type:city(1,582,738)_region:ES}}), between the mouths of the rivers [[Llobregat]] and [[Besòs]], and is limited to the west by the [[Serra de Collserola]] ridge (512&nbsp;m).
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== Deletionism facing (Judaism) articles ==
 
Barcelona is a major economic centre, with one of Europe's principal [[Mediterranean sea|Mediterranean]] [[port]]s, and its airport is the second largest in Spain. Founded as a Roman city, Barcelona became the capital of the Counts of Barcelona and the [[Crown of Aragon]]. Besieged several times during its history, Barcelona is today an important cultural centre and a major tourist destination and has a rich cultural heritage. Particularly renowned are architectural works of [[Antoni Gaudí]] and [[Lluís Domènech i Montaner]] that have been designated [[United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization|UNESCO]] [[World Heritage Sites]].
I have just placed the following on the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism]]. [[Shabbat]] [[Shalom]], [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 09:02, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
 
As the capital of [[Catalonia]], Barcelona houses the seat of the Catalan government, known as the [[Generalitat de Catalunya]]; of particular note are the [[Government of Catalonia|executive branch]], the [[Parliament of Catalonia|parliament]] and the [[Supreme Court of Catalonia]]. The city is also the capital of the county ([[Comarques of Catalonia|''comarca'']]) of the [[Barcelonès]].
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:Shalom to everyone: There is presently a very serious phenomenon on Wikipedia that effects all articles. Let's call it "The New Deletionism". There are editors on Wikipedia who want to cut back the number of "low quality" articles EVEN IF THEY ARE ABOUT NOTABLE TOPICS AND SUBJECTS by skipping the normal procedures of placing {{[[Template:cleanup|cleanup]]}} or {{[[Template:cite|cite]]}} tags on the articles' pages and instead wish to skip that process altogether and nominate the articles for a [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion|vote for deletion (VfD)]]. This can be done by ''any'' editor, even one not familiar with the subject. The implication/s for all articles related to Jews, Judaism, and Israel are very serious because many of these articles are of a specilaized nature that may or may not be poorly written yet have important connections to the general subjects of Jews, Judaism, and Israel, as any expert in that subject would know.
 
==Names==
:Two recent examples will illustrate this problem:
The name ''Barcelona'' comes from the ancient Phoenician Iberian ''Barkeno''<!--Don't use [[Image:Barkeno.png|Barkeno in Levantine Iberian script]] for the moment: -KE- is missing-->; [[Greek language|Greek]]: ''{{polytonic|Βαρκινών}}'';<ref>[[Ptolemy]], ii. 6. §&nbsp;8</ref> [[Latin]]: ''Barcino'', ''Barcelo''<ref>[[Avienus]] ''Or. Mar.'',</ref> and ''Barceno''.<ref>[[Antonine Itinerary|Itin. Ant.]]</ref>
 
During the Middle Ages the city was variously known as ''Barchinona, Barçalona, Barchelona'' and ''Barchenona''.
::1) See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zichron Kedoshim, Congregation]] where a notable Orthodox synagogue was deleted from Wikipedia. The nominator gave as his reason: "Scarce material available on Google, nor any evidence in those results of notability nor any notable size." Very few people voted and only one person objected correctly that: "I've visited this synagogue, know members, and know that it is a well established institution" which was ignored and the article was deleted. (I was unaware of the vote).
 
==History==
::2) See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Berel Wein]] where the nominator sought to delete the article about Rabbi [[Berel Wein]] because: "It looks like a vanity project to me. While he does come up with many Google hits, they are all commercial in nature. The article is poorly written and reads like a commercial to me." In the course of a strong debate the nominator defended his METHOD: "... what better way to do that than put it on an [[AfD]] where people who might know more about the subject might actually see it and comment rather than slapping a {{[[Template:NPOV|NPOV]]}} and {{[[Template:cleanup|cleanup]]}} template on and waiting for someone to perhaps come across it." But what if no-one noticed it in time and it would have gone the same way as "Congregation Zichron Kedoshim"? Fortunately, people noticed it, no-one agreed with the nominator and the article was kept.
{{main|History of Barcelona}}
The foundation of Barcelona is the subject of two different legends. The first attributes the founding of the city to [[Hercules]] 400&nbsp;years before the building of [[Rome]], and that it was rebuilt by the [[Carthage|Carthaginian]] [[Hamilcar Barca]], father of [[Hannibal]], who named the city ''Barcino'' after his family, in the [[3rd century BC]]. The second legend attributes the foundation directly to Hamilcar Barca.<ref>Oros. vii. 143; Miñano, ''Diccion.'' vol.&nbsp;i. p.&nbsp;391; Auson. ''Epist.'' xxiv. 68, 69, ''Punica Barcino''.</ref>
 
About [[15 BC|15&nbsp;BC]], the [[Roman Empire|Romans]] redrew the town as a ''[[castra|castrum]]'' (Roman military camp) centred on the "''Mons Taber''", a little hill near the contemporary city hall ([[Plaça de Sant Jaume]]). Under the Romans it was a colony, with the surname of ''Faventia'',<ref>[[Pliny the Elder|Plin.]] iii. 3. s.&nbsp;4</ref> or, in full, ''Colonia Faventia Julia Augusta Pia Barcino''<ref>Inscr. ap. Gruter, p. 426, nos. 5, 6.</ref> or ''Colonia Julia Augusta Faventia Paterna Barcino''. [[Mela]]<ref>ii. 6</ref> mentions it among the small towns of the district, probably as it was eclipsed by its neighbour ''[[Tarraco]]'' (modern [[Tarragona]]); but it may be gathered from later writers that it gradually grew in wealth and consequence, favoured as it was with a beautiful situation and an excellent harbour.<ref>Avien. ''Or. Mar.'' 520: "Et Barcilonum amoena sedes ditium."</ref> It enjoyed immunity from imperial burdens.<ref>Paul. Dig. 1. tit. 15, de Cens.</ref> The city minted its own coins; some from the era of [[Galba]] survive.
:As we all know Googling for/about a subject can determine its fate as an article, but this too is not always a clear-cut solution. Thus for example, in the first case, the nominator saw almost nothing about "Congregation Zichron Kedoshim" on Google (and assumed it was unimportant) whereas in the second case the nominator admitted that Berel Wein "does come up with many Google hits" but dismissed them as "all commercial in nature". So in one case too few Google hits was the ''rationale'' for wanting to delete it and in the other it was ''too many'' hits (which were dismissed as "too commercial" and interpreted as insignificant), all depending on the nominators' [[POV]] of course.
 
Some important Roman ruins are exposed under the [[Plaça del Rei]], entrance by the city museum ([[Museu d'Història de la Ciutat]]), and the typically Roman grid-planning is still visible today in the layout of the historical centre, the ''[[Barri Gòtic]]'' ("Gothic Quarter"). Some remaining fragments of the Roman walls have been incorporated into the cathedral.<ref>[http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/spain/barcelona/walls/walls.html]</ref> The cathedral, also known as basilica ''La Seu'' is said to have been founded in [[343]]. The city was conquered by the [[Visigoths]] in the early [[fifth century]], by the [[Moors]] in the early [[eighth century]], reconquered from the emir in [[801]] by [[Charlemagne]]'s son [[Louis the Pious|Louis]] who made Barcelona the seat of Carolingian "[[Spanish Marches]]" (''Marca Hispanica''), a buffer zone ruled by the [[Count of Barcelona]]. Barcelona was still a Christian frontier territory when it was sacked by [[Al-Mansur (Abi Amir)|Al-Mansur]] in [[985]].
:This problem is compounded because when nominators don't know [[Hebrew language|Hebrew]] or know nothing about Judaism and its rituals then they are at a loss, they don't know variant [[Transliteration|transliterated]] spellings, and compounding the problem even more Google may not have any good material or sources on many subjects important to Jewish, Judaic, and Israeli subjects. Often Judaica stores may be cluttering up the search with their tactics to sell products or non-Jewish sites decide to link up to Biblical topics that ''appear'' "Jewish" but are actually missionary sites luring people into misinformation about the Torah and the Tanakh, so while Googling may yield lots of hits they may mostly be Christian-oriented and even be hostile to the Judaic perspective.
 
The Counts of Barcelona became increasingly independent and expanded their territory to include all of Catalonia, later the [[Crown of Aragon]] which conquered many overseas possessions, ruling the western Mediterranean Sea with outlying territories in Naples and Sicily and as far as [[Duke of Athens|Athens]] in the [[thirteenth century]]. The forging of a dynastic link between the Crowns of Aragon and [[Crown of Castile|Castile]] marked the beginning of Barcelona's decline.
:'''Therefore, all editors and contributors are requested to be aware of any such attempts to delete articles that have a genuine connection to any aspect of Jews, Judaism and Israel, and to notify other editors'''.
 
==Geography==
:'''Please, most importantly, place alerts here in particular so that other editors can be notified'''.
[[Image:Barcelona ISS009-E-9987.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Barcelona as seen from space]]
Barcelona is located on the northeast coast of the [[Iberian Peninsula]], facing the [[Mediterranean Sea]], on a plateau approximately 5&nbsp;km wide limited by the mountain range of [[Serra de Collserola|Collserola]], the [[Llobregat]] river to the south-west and the [[Besòs]] river to the north<ref name="gec_3">{{cite encyclopedia | encyclopedia = Gran Enciclopèdia Catalana | title = Barcelona | year = 1971 | month = July | publisher = Edicions 62 | volume = 3 | ___location = Barcelona | pages = 193-229 }}</ref>. This plateau has 170 km²<ref name="gec_3" />, of which 101&nbsp;[[Square kilometre|km²]] (38.9&nbsp;[[Square mile|mi²]])<ref name="guies_estadistiques">[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/inf/guies/bcn.pdf Guies Estadístiques. Barcelona en Xifres. Novembre 2006.]</ref> are occupied by the city itself. It is 160&nbsp;[[Kilometre|km]] (100&nbsp;[[Mile|mi]]) south of the [[Pyrenees]] and the [[Catalonia]]n border with [[France]].
 
[[Serra de Collserola|Collserola]], part of the coastal mountain range, shelters the city to the north-west. Its highest point, the peak of [[Tibidabo]], 512&nbsp;m high, offers striking views over the city<ref>[http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen/fullscreen33.html]</ref> and is topped by the 288.4&nbsp;m [[Torre de Collserola]], a telecommunications tower that is visible from most of the city. Barcelona is peppered with small hills, most of them urbanized and that gave their name to the neighbourhoods built upon them, such as [[Carmel]] (267&nbsp;m), [[Putxet]] (181&nbsp;m) and [[Rovira]] (261&nbsp;m). The escarpment of [[Montjuïc]] (173&nbsp;m), situated to the southeast, overlooks the harbour and is topped by [[Montjuïc castle]], a fortress built in the 17&ndash;18th centuries to control the city as a replacement for the Ciutadella. Today, the fortress is a museum and Montjuic is home to several sporting and cultural venues, as well as Barcelona's biggest park and gardens.
:Thank you for all your help and awareness. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 08:43, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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The city borders are the municipalities of [[Santa Coloma de Gramenet]] and [[Sant Adrià de Besòs]] to the north; [[L'Hospitalet de Llobregat]] and [[Esplugues de Llobregat]] to the south; the Mediterranean Sea to the east; and [[Montcada i Reixac]] and [[Sant Cugat del Vallès]] to the west.
 
===Climate===
:Hi, I posted this on another page you posted it on too. As for the congregation, while you might think it's important, if there is no other evidence for it and not many Google hits, it's tough to not delete it. Know what I mean? Otherwise, people might not delete things that really should be deleted because somebody says it's notable. --[[User:Awiseman|Awiseman]] 16:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Barcelona has a [[Mediterranean climate]], with mild, dry winters and warm, humid summers. January and February are the coldest months, averaging temperatures of 10&nbsp;[[Degree Celsius|°C]] (50&nbsp;[[Degree Fahrenheit|°F]]). Snowfalls are so rare that they are remembered as special events. July and August are the hottest months, averaging temperatures of 25&nbsp;°C (77&nbsp;°F). The highest recorded maximum temperature in the city itself is 38.6&nbsp;°C.<ref>[http://www.geocities.com/jgiro2002/estiu2003.html Grup dels Sis: 2003: Un Estiu Infernal]</ref> At the Fabra Observatory, situated on the [[Tibidabo|Tibidabo hill]], the record summer temperature is 39.8&nbsp;°C (103.6&nbsp;°F). <ref>[http://www.geocities.com/jgiro2002/clima.html Grup dels Sis: Climatologia de Catalunya]</ref> However, it should be noted that the observatory is situated in the hills above the city near Collserola park - an area where the impact of the "heat island" effect is likely to be diminished.<ref>[http://geographyfieldwork.com/BarcelonaHeatIsland.htm Barcelona's heat island]</ref>
 
===Cityscape===
:It's pretty critical over at [[WP:AFD]]... [[User:PZFUN]] has nominated myriad entries into today (5/20)'s log. Many of these articles are '''extremely''' notable, such as [[USY]] or [[Young Judaea]]. This seems like a deliberate targeting of Judaism related articles, but I'm going to [[WP:AFG|assume]] that this isn't the case. I know you're keeping an eye on what's going on, but the loss of these articles would be a big blow to the Wikipedia. Let me know how I can help. [[User:Wes!|W]][[WP:ESP|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Wes!|s!]] &#149; [[User_talk:Wes!|<sup><small>T</small></sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Wes!|<sub><small>c</small></sub>]] 09:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Parcguell.jpg|thumb|250px|The entrance to Gaudi's "Park Güell"]]
====Parks====
Barcelona contains 68 municipal parks, divided into 12&nbsp;historic parks, 5&nbsp;thematic (botanical) parks, 45&nbsp;urban parks and 6&nbsp;forest parks.<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/parcsijardins/cat/parcs/pa_mapa.htm Parcs i Jardins > Els Parcs > Els Parcs de Barcelona]</ref> They range from vest-pocket parks to large recreation areas. The parks cover 10% of the city (549.7 ha),<ref name="guies_estadistiques" /> growing about 10&nbsp;ha per year,<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/parcsijardins/cat/parcs/pa_his_ciu.htm Parcs i Jardins > Els Parcs > Història > La ciutat i el verd]</ref> with a proportion of 18.1 m² of park area per inhabitant.<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/parcsijardins/cat/parcs/pa_his_demo.htm Parcs i Jardins > Els Parcs > Història > La democràcia]</ref>
 
Of Barcelona's parks, [[Montjuïc]] is the largest, with 203&nbsp;[[Hectare|ha]] located on the mountain of the same name.<ref name="guies_estadistiques" /> It is followed by [[Ciutadella Park]] (situated in the place of the old military [[citadel]] and which houses the [[Parliament of Catalonia|Parliament]] building, the [[zoo]] and several museums; 31&nbsp;ha including the zoo), the [[Guinardó Park]] (19&nbsp;ha), [[Park Güell]] (designed by [[Antoni Gaudí]]; 17.2&nbsp;ha), [[Oreneta Castle Park]] (also 17.2&nbsp;ha), [[Diagonal Mar Park]] (13.3&nbsp;ha, inaugurated in 2002), [[Nou Barris Central Park]] (13.2&nbsp;ha), [[Can Dragó Sports Park]] and [[Poblenou Park]] (both 11.9&nbsp;ha) and the [[Labyrinth Park]] (9.10&nbsp;ha), named after the garden maze it contains.<ref name="guies_estadistiques" /> A part of the Collserolla Park is also within the city limits.
== Talk page spamming ==
 
====Beaches====
IZAK, I can see you feel strongly about the deletion of articles on Judaism-related topics. Nevertheless, it's not a good idea to bulk-message on a large number of user talk pages--particularly when your message is so lengthy.
[[Image:050529 Barcelona 059.jpg|250px|right|thumb|Barceloneta beach]]
 
Barcelona has seven beaches, totalling 4.5&nbsp;[[Kilometre|km]] (2.8&nbsp;[[Mile|mi]]) of coastline. [[Sant Sebastià]] and [[Barceloneta]] beaches, both 1100&nbsp;m in length,<ref name="guies_estadistiques" /> are the largest, oldest and the most frequented beaches in Barcelona. The Olympic port separates them from the other city beaches: Nova Icària, Bogatell, Mar Bella, Nova Mar Bella and Llevant. These beaches (ranging from 400 to 640&nbsp;m) were opened as a result of the city restructuring to host the [[1992 Summer Olympics]], when a great number of industrial buildings were demolished. The [[2004 Universal Forum of Cultures]] left the city a sandless bathing zone, a sort of sea pool.
You might consider approaching this a different way. A short notice on some central message board can reach a larger audience, without raising concerns about spamming. Try [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism]] or the Village Pump, for instance.
 
====Other====
In the meantime, please stop the bulk messaging. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 09:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
The area around the [[Plaça Catalunya]] makes up the city's historical centre and, alongside the upper half of the Diagonal avenue, is the main commercial area of the city. Barcelona has several commercial complexes, like L'Illa in the higher part of the Diagonal avenue and Diagonal Mar in the lowest, La Maquinista, Glòries in the place of the same name and the Maremagnum by the port.
*Hi Ten: It's not spamming! I was merely contacting editors that I regularly communicate with. These are not strangers! I will follow up with your advice about the village pump and one or two more places. Thanks for the advice. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 09:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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Barcelona has several skyscrapers, the highest being the [[Hotel Arts]] and its twin the [[Torre Mapfre]], both 154&nbsp;m high, followed by the newest [[Torre Agbar]] 144&nbsp;m high.
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==Demographics==
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[[Image:Demografía Barcelona (España).PNG|250px|right|thumb|Demographic evolution, 1900&ndash;2005, according to the Spanish Instituto Nacional de Estadística]]
According to Barcelona's City Council, Barcelona's population as of [[2006-06-01]] was
1,673,075&nbsp;people,<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/anuari/cap02/C0203010.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Estadística: Indicadors demogràfics. 2005]</ref> while the population of the [[Barcelona metropolitan area|Metropolitan Area]] was 3,161,081. It is the central nucleus of the [[Urban Region of Barcelona]], which relies on a population of 5,327,872 and covers an area of 4,268 km².
 
The [[population density]] of Barcelona was 15,779&nbsp;people per&nbsp;km²,<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/anuari/cap02/C0201040.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Estadística: Densitat de població. 2005]</ref> with [[Eixample]] being the most populated district. 62% of the inhabitants were born in [[Catalonia]], with a 23.5% coming from the rest of Spain. Of the 13.9% from other countries, a proportion which has more than tripled since 2001 when it was 3.9%,<ref name="guies_estadistiques" /> the majority come from (in order) [[Ecuador]], [[Peru]], [[Morocco]], [[Colombia]], [[Argentina]], [[Italy]], [[Pakistan]] and [[China]].<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/anuari/cap02/C0201090.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Estadística: Nacionalitat per sexe. 2005]</ref>
[[Image:Barnstar-rotating.gif|left|frame|<center>I, [[User:Gidonb|gidonb]], hereby award you this '''Tireless Contributor Barnstar''' for your continuous quality contributions to articles on [[Judaism]]. Mazzeltov! </center> 16:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)</center>]]
 
95% of the population understand [[Catalan language|Catalan]], 74.6% can speak it, 75% can read it, and 47.1% can write it.<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/anuari/cap02/C0202050.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Estadística: Coneixement de la llengua catalana per grans grups d'edat. 2001]</ref> While most of the population profess to be of the [[Catholic]] religion (208&nbsp;churches), actual church attendance figures are low. There are also a number of other groups, including various [[Evangelist]] (71&nbsp;locations, mostly professed by [[Roma in Spain|Roma]]), [[Jehovah's Witnesses]] (21&nbsp;[[Kingdom Halls]]), Jews, Muslims and [[Buddhism|Buddhists]] (13&nbsp;locations).<ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/ab/asia/equipament/controller/0,2317,1653_71890_3,00.html?accio=llista_eq&primera_busqueda=true&temaOriginal=&tema=0040101011_Religion&que=&opcio2=&opcio=districte&districte=&zona=&carrer=&numero=&al= Barcelona: Directory: Theme: Religion]</ref>
== [[User:PZFUN|PZFUN]]'s crusade ==
 
In 1900, Barcelona had a population of 533.000 people<ref name="gec_3" />, which grew steadily but slowly until 1950, when it started absorbing an hight number of people from other less-industrialized parts of Spain. Barcelona's population peaked in 1979 with 1,906,998 people, and fell throughout the 1980s and 1990s as more people sought a higher quality of life in outlying cities in the Barcelona Metropolitan Area. After bottoming out in 2000 with 1,496,266 people, the city's population began to rise again as younger people started to return, causing a great increase in housing prices. <ref>[http://www.bcn.es/estadistica/catala/dades/anuari/cap02/C0201010.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Estadística: Evolució de la població. 1900-2005]</ref>
Are we willing to prosecute PZFUN for his hardly-deniable attack on Jewish communal and religious topics? He is clearly marking for deletion organisations with memberships of thousands. His criteria for deletions is also often that the article is not well-written (as well as "utterly non-notable" which is not the case. [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 10:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
:: Assume good faith. 'memberships of thousands' isn't notability enough, though the tens of thousands generally is. Just explain about which orgs are notable, make that clear in their articles, and add references... [[User:Sj|+sj ]][[User Talk:Sj|+]] 16:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
: Since PZFUN has some jewish blood in there too I've been told, I'm pretty certain he's not a crusader ;-) . In fact, the articles he nominated are extremely ill-maintained. This is still an encyclopedia, so his actions were technically correct, as far as policy goes.
: Even so, it's made several people rather unhappy, so Slimvirgin has applied Ignore All Rules and kept the articles for now, so as to keep the peace.
: In the mean time, it would help everyone a lot if we saw some serious maintenance work being done on those articles! [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 15:51, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 
== Economy ==
::: Uh, I have a lot of Jewish family members, including my father. If you want to make this personal, so be it, but it is hardly bad-faith to list articles that currently meet none of the Wikipedia checkpoints, such as [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]], [[Wikipedia:Sources]], and [[Wikipedia:NPOV]]. Just by merely saying "If you were Orthodox, you'd know him" does ''not'' make something notable. Such statements need to have third-party references (ie, they can't just be on their personal page) and must be verified, in otherwords, they must be proven to exist. When an article has no sources, it cannot be assumed by a secular institution that something is indeed encyclopaedic. As for groups, there is a certain level of [[Wikipedia:Notability]] requirements; in other words, just because something is there, doesn't mean it necesarily deserves an article. There is no article on my Street Association because I can't prove it exists since we've never published anything, nor would an informal organisation of 500-1000 people be encyclopaedic. Please read Wikipedia policy before accusing me of bad faith. [[User:PZFUN|'''<font color="000000">Páll</font>''']]</font> <sup><font color="ff66cc">[[User talk:PZFUN|('''Die&nbsp;pienk&nbsp;olifant''')]]</font></sup> 18:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Spain.Catalonia.Barcelona.Vista.Port.jpg|thumb|Barcelona's old harbour]]
Barcelona has a long-standing mercantile tradition. Less well known is that it was one of the earliest regions in continental Europe to begin industrialization, beginning with textile related works at the end of the [[eighteenth century]] but really gathering momentum in the mid [[nineteenth century]], when it became a major center for the production of textiles and machinery. Since then, manufacturing has played a large role in its history. The traditional importance in textiles is still reflected in Barcelona's importance as a major fashion center. In summer 2006, Barcelona became an host for the prestigious [[Bread & Butter]] urban fashion fair. The fair was so successful than, starting in 2007, Barcelona became the only host for Bread & Butter, that closed its original [[Berlin]] ___location.
 
As in other modern cities, the manufacturing sector has long since been overtaken by the services sector, though it remains important. The most important industries today are textile, chemistry, pharmaceutical, motor, electronic and printing. In the services sector, the most important are the logistics, publishing, telecommunications and computer sectors.
:::: More discussion here [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]]. Definite bad faith. If it really was good faith, he should've at least found 36 cardinals, bishops, and imans to afd and hide behind. --[[User:Shuki|Shuki]] 00:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Drawing upon its tradition of creative art and craftsmanship, Barcelona is nowadays also known for its award-winning industrial design. Barcelona also has several congress halls, notably [[La Fira]] (Trade Fair), that host a quickly growing number of national and international events each year, which had also meant the opening of new hotels each year. The [[Port of Barcelona]] is an important Mediterranean port, both for general containers cargo and for cruise ships.
:::::I'm sure there was Jewish blood in some of the crusaders too. But the aplication of "No references" to articles ''with'' references, just because they are among some without and you happen to be giving the same nomination rationale for 16 articles doesn't make your actions correct or justified, and makes it seem like an arbitrary crusade on the topic. [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 01:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Sure, some of them had one (or maybe two) website that were personal or were videos of them speaking, or had no back up for any of the information sourced. Just because an article has one link attached to it that is called a reference or a source does not make it such. And I would like it if you laid of the crusade rhetoric, it's pointless and only makes the discussion hostile. [[User:PZFUN|'''<font color="000000">Páll</font>''']]</font> <sup><font color="ff66cc">[[User talk:PZFUN|('''Die&nbsp;pienk&nbsp;olifant''')]]</font></sup> 01:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry. I used ''crusade'' last night when I was quite upset by my time being spent on countering poorly-submitted AFDs. I hope you can accept my apologies, but it's in the wiki and can't be taken out. I have given you two examples of Hasidic rebbe articles that you nominated where clear print references were properly cited at the bottom of the article. Maybe no citations were given fact-by-fact, but that's usually not done in printed encyclopedias either. [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::: Almost none of those articles is fact, it is all speculation and copyvios. And fine, those two articles were a mistake, if their texts do indeed exist. So the other 14, then? Fact-by-fact referencing IS done on Wikipedia. I am rather frustrated as well as I seem to be wasting my time by trying to have anything to do with Judaism on Wikipedia. The minute anyone who is not Jewish and well known for it attempts to edit or prune article, they are attack as an "anti-smite" on a "crusade. It is appaling that the lack of quality is not a concern, while the sheer numbers of articles are. Have you seen [[Wikipedia:CRUFT]]? Well, now this is JudaismCruft. [[User:PZFUN|'''<font color="000000">Páll</font>''']]</font> <sup><font color="ff66cc">[[User talk:PZFUN|('''Die&nbsp;pienk&nbsp;olifant''')]]</font></sup> 02:13, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::I am not claiming anti-semitism. I think that's silly. What I am claiming is that you, without discretion, nominated a whole pile of things from one category, seemingly only to make a point. Otherwise you may have been more careful in trying to have the articles improved, as many were clearly of notable subjects, even if some lacked references: yes, even the Jewish community here has a sense of discretion as to who is a notable and who is unnotable as a religious figure, but the originators of large Hasidic dynasties clearly should fall into the "notable" category. So don't just nominate so many articles with the ''same'' AFD comment- at least change them for when "not notable" or "no references" are clearly false! It is hardly clear that you looked at the articles before nominating them. [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::As to the claim of "CRUFT", I reply that I not at all a fan of most of these personalities and I object to many aspects of their ways of life or interpretations of Judaism. But they are still mentioned often, and are prominent former leaders of large current communities. The heads of smaller and much shorter-term communities are found on Wikipedia, and could possibly be called cruft. These, on the other hand, are the founding heads of leader-centric groups that have existed for a couple of centuries. They are a topic of interest to me, but I am certainly no fan that wants my favourite superhero to have a page on Wikipedia. These persons are important and notable to Jews and non-Jews alike who are interested in Hasidism (not a minor strange fanclub). [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::: It's a stub cat. People clear those out regularly. [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 22:26, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Barcelona has one of the highest costs of living in Spain, second only to [[Madrid]] and ocuping the 31st position according to a report by Mercer Human Resource Consulting.<ref>[http://www.abc.es/20070618/economia-economia/madrid-barcelona-entre-ciudades_200706181319.html ABC.es: economia - economia - Madrid y Barcelona, entre las ciudades más caras del mundo para vivir]</ref>
==STOP!==
 
==Government and administrative divisions==
Hello! I took a lot of trouble with Slimvirgin to sort out the situation yesterday. Please do not go around telling things that are not true on many many articles for deletion.
{{seealso|Municipal elections in Barcelona|List of mayors of Barcelona}}
[[Image:Glories.jpg|250px|right|thumb|[[Glòries]] at night]]
Barcelona is governed by a city council formed by 41 city councilors, [[Municipal elections in Barcelona|elected]] for a four-year term by [[universal suffrage]]. As one of the two biggest cities in Spain (the other being [[Madrid]]), Barcelona is subject to a special law articulated through the ''Carta Municipal'' (Municipal Law). A first version of this law was passed in [[1960]] and amended later, but the current version was approved in March 2006.<ref name="ley 1/2006">[http://www.boe.es/g/es/bases_datos/doc.php?coleccion=iberlex&id=2006/04583 BOE - LEY 1/2006, de 13 de marzo, por la que se regula el Régimen Especial del municipio de Barcelona.]</ref> According to his law, Barcelona's city council is organized in two levels: a political one, with elected city councilors, and one executive, which administrates the programs and executes the decisions taken on the political level. <ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/V61/Home/V61HomeLinkPl/0,2687,200713899_200720868_1,00.html Ajuntament de Barcelona > Ajuntament > El Govern de la Ciutat]</ref> This law also gives the local government a special relationship with the central government and it also gives the mayor wider prerogatives by the means of municipal executive commissions.<ref>[http://www.bcn.cat/catala/laciutat/barcelona/organitzacio.htm Ajuntament de Barcelona: Organització política]</ref> It expands the powers of the city council in areas like telecommunications, city traffic, road safety and public safety. It also gives a special economic regime to the city's treasury and it gives the council a [[veto]] in matters that will be decided by the central government, but that will need a favourable report from the council.<ref name="ley 1/2006" />
 
The ''Comissió de Govern'' (Government Commission) is the [[executive (government)|executive]] branch, formed by 24 councilors, led by the [[List of mayors of Barcelona|Mayor]], with 5 lieutenant-mayors and 17 city councilors, each in charge of an area of government, and 5 non-elected councilors. <ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/V61/Home/V61HomeLinkPl/0,4358,200713899_200720894_3,00.html Ajuntament de Barcelona > Council> The city government> Council Executive]</ref> The plenary, formed by the 41 city councilors, has advisory, planning, regulatory, and fiscal executive functions.<ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/V61/Home/V61HomeLinkPl/0,4358,200713899_200720876_3,00.html Ajuntament de Barcelona > Council> The city government> Plenary]</ref> The six ''Comissions del Consell Municipal'' (City council comissions) have executive and controlling functions in the field of their jurisdiction. They are composed by a number of councilors proportional to the number of councilors each political party has in the plenary.<ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/V61/Home/V61HomeLinkPl/0,4358,200713899_200720890_3,00.html Ajuntament de Barcelona > Council> The city government> Committees of the Municipal Council]</ref> The city council has jurisdiction in the fields of [[city planning]], transportation, municipal taxes, public highways security through the ''[[Guardia Urbana]]'' (the municipal police), city maintenance, gardens, parks and environment, facilities (like schools, nurseries, sports centres, libraries, etc.), culture, sports, youth and [[social welfare]]. Some of these competencies are not exclusive, but shared with the Generalitat de Catalunya or the central [[Government of Spain|Spanish government]].
Please discuss with either Slimvirgin or myself before you spread around more misunderstandings yet. I am not very pleased. [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 22:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
The executive branch is led by a Chief Municipal Executive Officer which answers to the Mayor. It is made up of departments which are legally part of the city council and by separate legal entities of two tipes: autonomous public departments and public enterprises. <ref>[http://w3.bcn.es/V61/Home/V61HomeLinkPl/0,4358,200713899_200722250_3,00.html Ajuntament de Barcelona > Council> The municipal administration]</ref>
:I'm inclined to agree. Try be objective. [[user:jnothman|jnothman]] [[User_talk:jnothman|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:57, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
The seat of the city council is on the Plaça Sant Jaume, opposite the seat of Generalitat de Catalunya. Since the [[Spanish transition to democracy|coming of the Spanish democracy]], Barcelona [[Municipal elections in Barcelona|has been governed]] by the [[Socialists' Party of Catalonia|PSC]], first with an absolute majority and later in coalition with [[Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya|ERC]] and [[Initiative for Catalonia Greens|ICV]]. Since the May 2007 elections, PSC is governing in minority only with IC, since ERC decided against a renewal of the previous coalition. The second most voted party in Barcelona is [[Convergència i Unió|CiU]], followed by [[People's Party (Spain)|PP]], both currently in the opposition.
: Seeing your answer at Slimvirgins page, the traditional internet response is to refuse to cooperate with you further on this matter, which I am now doing. [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 23:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 
===Administrative divisions===
I think you've gone too far with this. [[User:Kim Bruning|Kim Bruning]] 23:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Since 1997, the city has been divided into 10&nbsp;administrative districts (''districtes''), each one with its own council led by a city councillor. The composition of each district council depends on the number of votes each political party had in that district, so a district can be led by a councillor from a different party than the executive council.
 
The administrative divisions are based mostly on historical divisions. Several of the city's districts are former towns annexed by the city of Barcelona in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries that still maintain their own distinct character. The official names of these districts are in the [[Catalan language]].
==Shalom==
 
====Districts and neighbourhoods====
Shalom IZAK. It's easy to think, when a number of people become upset over a turn of phrase that you have used, that either they're just being over-sensitive and missing the whole point, or they're being deliberately obtuse. But there is always the possibility of showing magnanimity by retracting words that others may find offensive. I ask you now if you would consider showing such magnanimity. This is an occasion on which, I assure you, a retraction would enhance the regard in which you are held without diminishing the strong and important message of what you are saying. --[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]] 00:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:MapaBCN Distritos01.jpg|250px|right|thumb|Districts]]
:Ditto. [[User:HKT|HKT]] 00:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
{{main|Districts of Barcelona}}
: I also endorse the above. Best, --[[User:NicholasTurnbull|Nicholas'''Turnbull''']] | [[User_talk:NicholasTurnbull|(talk)]] 01:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
*''[[Ciutat Vella]]'' ("Old City"): [[El Raval]] (also known in Spanish as the ''Barrio Chino'', ("[[Chinatown]]"), the ''[[Barri Gòtic]]'' ("Gothic Quarter"), [[La Barceloneta]] and the ''Barri de la Ribera''.
*[[Eixample]]: Sant Antoni, ''Esquerra de l'Eixample'' ("the left side of the Eixample" facing away from the sea), ''Dreta de l'Eixample'' ("the right side of the Eixample"), ''Barri de la Sagrada Família'', Fort Pienc, ''Sant Antoni''
*[[Sants]]&ndash;[[Montjuïc]]: Poble Sec, La Marina, La Font de La Guatlla, La Bordeta, Hostafrancs, Sants, Badal.
*[[Les Corts]]: Les Corts, La Maternitat, Pedralbes.
*[[Sarrià-Sant Gervasi]]: Tres Torres, Sarrià, Vallvidrera, Bonanova, Sant Gervasi, Putxet-Farró, Galvany.
*[[Gràcia]]: Vallcarca, [[El Coll]], La Salut, Gràcia, El Camp d'en Grassot
*[[Horta-Guinardó]]: Horta, [[El Carmel]], La Teixonera, El Guinardó (Alt i Baix), La Clota, La Vall D'Hebron, Montbau
*[[Nou Barris]]: Can Peguera, Porta, Canyelles, Ciutat Meridiana, Guineueta, Prosperitat, Vallbona, Verdum, Vilapicina, Roquetes, Trinitat Vella, Trinitat Nova, Torre Baró, Torre Llobeta and Turó de la Peira.
*[[Sant Andreu]]: La Segrera, Trinitat Vella, Bon Pastor, Sant Andreu, Navas, Baró de Viver
*[[Sant Martí]]: Diagonal Mar, Fort Pius, San Martí de Provençals, Poble Nou, La Verneda, El Clot
 
==Education==
*Hello: I am not a mind-reader. Whatever it is that is bothering any one of you I retract. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 05:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
{{main|Education in Catalonia}}
Barcelona has a well-developed [[higher education]] system of [[Public university|public universities]]. Most prominent among these is the [[University of Barcelona]], a world-renowned research and teaching institution with [[campus]]es around the city. Barcelona is also home to the [[Polytechnic University of Catalonia]], the newer [[Pompeu Fabra University]] and, in the private sector, the [[Ramon Llull University]] encompassing internationally renowned institutions like [[ESADE]] Business School. The [[Autonomous University of Barcelona]], another public university, is located in [[Bellaterra]], a town in the [[Barcelona metropolitan area|Metropolitan Area]].
 
The city has a network of public schools, from nurseries to high schools, under the responsibility of the city council (though the student subjects are the responsibility of the Generalitat de Catalunya). There are also many private schools, some of them [[Roman Catholic]]. Like other cities in Spain, Barcelona now faces the integration of a large number of immigrant children from Latin America, Africa and Asia.
==Kiddush Club notice==
Hi, thanks for the notice. My edits to this article were limited to some basic Manual of Style formatting tweaks; I don't have the specialist knowledge required to make an informed vote on this article and the related AFD discussions. I will do some research into the matter and cast a vote if I can reach a decision on the debate. Thanks again for the notice. Regards. --[[User:Muchness|Muchness]] 13:09, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
*Thanks. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 13:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
==Yasher koach==
[[Image:Barnstar-Megaphone.png|100px|left|Motivation Award|frame|I hereby award IZAK the Barnstar-Megaphone award for his diligence in motivating the Jewish community to contribute to Wikipedia. [[User:Yodamace1|Yodamace1]] 17:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)]]
*Good grief, what is this? I haven't seen this one before ?#:=) But thanks a lot anyway Yoda! [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 17:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 
==Culture==
== Christian views of Hanukkah ==
{{main|Culture of Barcelona}}
[[Image:Liceu.jpg|thumb|200px|The façade of the Liceu, as viewed from La Rambla]]
Barcelona's cultural roots go back 2000 years. To a greater extent than the rest of Catalonia, where Catalonia's native [[Catalan language|Catalan]] is more dominant, Barcelona is a bilingual city: [[Catalan language|Catalan]] and [[Spanish language|Spanish]] are both official languages and widely spoken. The Catalan spoken in Barcelona, [[Central Catalan]], is the one closest to standard Catalan. Since the [[Spanish transition to democracy|arrival of democracy]], the Catalan culture (very much repressed during the [[Spain under Franco|dictatorship]]) has been promoted, both by recovering works from the past and by stimulating the creation of new works. Barcelona is designated as a [[global city|world-class city]] by the Globalization and World Cities Study Group and Network.<ref>{{cite web |url = http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/citylist.html |title = Globalization and World Cities Study Group & Network - Inventory of World Cities |accessdate = 2007-07-07 }}</ref>
 
===Entertainment and performing arts===
*Now [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Christian views of Hanukkah]].
Barcelona has many venues for live music and theatre, including the world-renowned [[Liceu|Gran Teatre del Liceu]] opera theatre, the [[Teatre Nacional de Catalunya]], the [[Teatre Lliure]] and the [[Palau de la Música Catalana]] concert hall. Barcelona also is home to the [[Sónar]] Music Festival<ref>[http://www.sonar.es Sónar Music Festival]</ref> which takes place around June every year, and to the Barcelona and Catalonia National Symphonic Orchestra (Orquestra Simfònica de Barcelona i Nacional de Catalunya, usually known as OBC) is the largest symphonic orchestra in Catalonia. In 1999, the OBC inaugurated its new venue in the brand-new Auditorium (''l'Auditori''). It performs around 75 concerts per season and its current director is [[Eiji Oue]].<ref>[http://www.auditori.org/seccions/auditori/oferta_musical/auditori_obc/index.aspx L'Auditori: OBC]</ref>
*Was [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian views of Hanukkah]].
 
===Museums===
According to the history, you wrote most of the article. Any idea of some sources? There really isn't content other than religious quotes, but the reviewers claimed "Original Research".
Barcelona houses a great number of museums, which cover different areas and eras. The [[Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya|National Museum of Art of Catalonia]] possesses a well-known collection of [[Romanesque art]] while the [[Barcelona Museum of Contemporary Art]] focuses on post-1945 Catalan and Spanish art. The [[Fundació Joan Miró]], [[Museu Picasso|Picasso Museum]] and [[Fundació Antoni Tàpies]] hold important collections of these world-renowned artists.
:--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 17:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC) -- watching here
*Hi William: I did ''not'' write the article, but I remember dealing with it. I have written a detailed response at [[Wikipedia:Deletion review#Christian views of Hanukkah]] which should clarify the origins of the article, its mutations over time, and my role in it's early development. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 19:24, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
*:Thank you, IZAK, for taking the time!
*::--[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] 19:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Several museums cover the fields of history and archeology, like the City History Museum, the Museum of the History of Catalonia, the [[Archaeology Museum of Catalonia]], the Barcelona Maritime Museum and the private-owned Egiptian Museum. The Erotic museum of Barcelona is among the most peculiar ones, while Cosmocaixa is a [[science museum]] that received the [[European Museum of the Year Award]] in 2006.
== Email ==
 
===Architecture===
Did you see my email? It's urgent. [[User:Pecher|Pecher]] <sup>[[User talk:Pecher|Talk]]</sup> 14:39, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Sagradafamilia-overview.jpg|thumb|250px|The Sagrada Família church, Gaudi's masterpiece]]
:I see you're editing, so may I draw your attention once again to my comment above? Sorry for being intrusive. [[User:Pecher|Pecher]] <sup>[[User talk:Pecher|Talk]]</sup> 18:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
The ''[[Barri Gòtic]]'' ("Gothic Quarter" in Catalan) is the centre of the old city of Barcelona. Many of the buildings date from medieval times, some from as far back as the Roman settlement of Barcelona. Catalan ''[[modernisme]]'' architecture (often known as [[Art Nouveau]] in the rest of Europe), developed between [[1885]] and [[1950]] and left an important legacy in Barcelona. A great number of these buildings are [[World Heritage Sites]]. Especially remarkable is the work of architect [[Antoni Gaudí]], which can be seen throughout the city. His best known work is the immense but still unfinished church of the [[Sagrada Família]], which has been under construction since 1882, and is still financed by private donations. As of 2007, completion is planned for [[2026]].
::Hi Pecher: I have sent you my reply via Email. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 18:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Barcelona won the 1999 [[RIBA]] [[Royal Gold Medal]] for its architecture<ref>[http://www.architecture.com/fileLibrary/pdf/Royal_Gold_Medallists_at_09112006.pdf RIBA Royal Gold Medallists]</ref>, the first (as of 2007, only) time that the winner has been a city, and not an individual architect.
== PArtnership Minyan ==
As an FYI, I had put entries on the issue in both the article talk page and the editor's user talk page, although I may not have waited enough time. --[[User:Shirahadasha|Shirahadasha]] 22:02, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 
===World Heritage Sites in Barcelona===
== Cain and Abel article ==
*Works of [[Lluís Domènech i Montaner]], [[Palau de la Música Catalana]] and [[Hospital de Sant Pau]], included in the list in 1997.
*Works of [[Antoni Gaudí]], including [[Park Güell]], [[Palau Güell]], [[Casa Milà]], [[Casa Vicens]], [[Sagrada Família]] (Nativity façade and crypt), [[Casa Batlló]], Crypt in Colonia Güell. The first three works were inscribed as a World Heritage Site in 1984. The other four were added as extensions to the site in 2005.
 
===Media===
Hello IZAK,
''[[El Periódico de Catalunya]]'' (Catalan and Spanish editions) and ''[[La Vanguardia]]'' (Spanish) are Barcelona's two major daily newspapers while ''[[Sport (newspaper)|Sport]]'' and ''[[El Mundo Deportivo]]'' (both in Spanish) are the city's two major sports daily newspapers, published by the same companies. The city is also served by a number of smaller publications such as ''[[Avui]]'' and ''[[El Punt]]'' (both in Catalan), by nation-wide newspapers with special Barcelona editions like ''[[El Pais]]'' and ''[[El Mundo (Spain)|El Mundo]]'' (both in Spanish), and by several free newspapers like ''[[Metro International|Metro]]'', ''[[20 minutos]]'', ''ADN'' and ''Què'' (bilingual).
as I understand, Cain and Abel article is mainly yours. It possibly has a mistake. Jewish tradition suggests that Cain and Abel were born before the Fall of Man. I know this from rabbis but I have not a reference to support the fact. What's your mention about? If it's so, how should article be corrected in the best way?
[[User:For wiki|For wiki]] 19:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
*Hi For wiki: I do not recall the scope of my involvement with that article, it's been a while since then. I do not have time to look at it now. For help, please try posting a request at the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism]]. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 08:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 
Several major FM stations include [[Catalunya Ràdio]], [[RAC 1]], [[RAC 105]] and [[Cadena SER]]. Barcelona also has several local TV stations, among them [[Barcelona Televisió|BTV]] (owned by city council) and [[8TV]] (owned by the Godó group, that also owns ''La Vanguardia''). The headquarters of [[Televisió de Catalunya]], Catalonia's public network, are located in [[Sant Joan Despí]], in Barcelona's metropolitan area.
== Thanks for your support ==
 
=== Sports ===
I appreciate it. BTW, are you OK with this: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#Solomon is a redir to Biblical account of King Solomon?]] ←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]] <sup>[[User talk:Humus sapiens|ну?]]</sup> 20:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Camp nou.jpg|thumb|250px|The ''[[Camp Nou]] ''[[stadium]]]]
*Have given my views already, thanks Humus. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 08:00, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Barcelona has a long sporting tradition and hosted the successful [[1992 Summer Olympics]] as well as several matches from the [[1982 Football World Cup]]. It has also been host to the [[2003 World Aquatics Championships|X FINA World Championships]] and twice of the [[Eurobasket]].
 
[[FC Barcelona]] is a [[sports club]] best known for its [[football (soccer)|football]] team, one of the biggest in Europe, twice winner of the [[UEFA Champions League]]. FC Barcelona also has teams in the Spanish [[basketball]] [[Asociación de Clubs de Baloncesto|ACB]] league ([[FC Barcelona (basketball)|Winterthur FCB]]), the [[team handball|handball]] [[Liga ASOBAL|ASOBAL]] league ([[FC Barcelona (handball)|FC Barcelona-Cifec]]), and the [[roller hockey]] league. The club's museum is the second most visited in Catalonia. [[RCD Espanyol]] is the city's other [[La Liga|Liga]] football team. Barcelona also has other clubs in lower categories, like [[CE Europa]] and [[UE Sant Andreu]].
== Thank you! ==
Thank you for helping out in saving the article [[Spanish and Portuguese Jews]] <small>(seems to be safe for now)</small> and the [[:category:Spanish and Portuguese Jews]] <small>(heading the right way, I hope)</small>. -- [[User:Olve|Olve]] 22:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
*Hi Olve, my pleasure, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 07:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 
Barcelona has two [[UEFA]] [[UEFA Stadia List|5-star rated]] football stadiums: FC Barcelona's [[Camp Nou]] and the [[Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys]], used for the [[1992 Summer Olympics|1992 Olympics]] and the current home of Espanyol, pending completion of the club's new stadium.
== AfD reform ==
 
The [[Open Seat Godó]], a 50-year-old [[ATP Tour]] [[International Series Gold tennis tournaments|International Series Gold tennis tournament]], is held annually in the facilities of the Reial Club de Tenis Barcelona (Barcelona Royal Tennis Club). Several popular running competitions are organized year-round in Barcelona: Cursa del Corte Inglés (with about 60,000 participants each year){{Fact|date=July 2007}}, Cursa de la Mercè, Cursa Jean Bouin, Milla Sagrada Família and the San Silvestre. Also, each Christmas, a swimming race across the port is organized. Near Barcelona, in [[Montmeló]], the 131,000 capacity [[Circuit de Catalunya]] racetrack hosts the [[Spanish Grand Prix|Formula One Spanish Grand Prix]] and the [[Catalan motorcycle Grand Prix]]. Barcelona has also become [[Skateboarding in Barcelona|very popular]] with [[skateboarding|skateboarders]], which has led to a new anti-skateboarding law, which came into effect in 2006.
Hi, IZAK.
 
== Transportation and infrastructures ==
Kudos on adding religion as a category in the proposal; I get the impression that it gets enough AfD listings to necessitate its own category. I am concerned that splitting religion up further would jeopardize the entire categorization proposal, as there's a lot of concern about splitting up into more specific categories (relative to the specificity of "History/Geography", for example). Very broad categorization (even if Religion is part of another category) would still be quite helpful for editors interested in AfDs about specific religions, as that categorization would drastically minimize the the amount of junk to sift through. It would thus encourage more participation in these AfDs. I think that it would be a good idea from the standpoint of achieving consensus to not include the specific sub-religion categories. What do you think? Kol tuv, [[User:HKT|HKT]]<sup>[[User talk:HKT|Talk]]</sup> 19:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
===Airports===
*Hi HKT: I think it would help to split the religion articles,''in some way or to some degree'', because Christianity, especially articles about it English, are very numerous and may tend to overwhelm articles from other religions and there VfDs as well. I think that the Christianity sections do get a large amount of AFD's listed. After all, Christianity is the world's largest religion with about two billion adherents and the bulk of the English Wikipedia's contributors are in the USA and the UK where Christianity is the dominant religion which makes for comprehensive articles and consequent VfDS which would tend to swamp the smaller amout of entries on other religions. Thus, for example, in looking for Judaism VFD's, one would have to sift through hundreds of Christian nominations before one could find the relatively few connected to Judaism. By the way, there is another problem: How to keep tabs of articles relating to Jews or Jewish history or Israel that are not part of the subject of Judaism as such? There is still some debate and thinking needed here. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 14:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Barcelona is served by [[Barcelona International Airport]] in the town of [[El Prat de Llobregat]], about 3&nbsp;km from Barcelona. It is the second-largest airport in Spain, and the largest on the Mediterranean coast. It is a main hub for [[Vueling Airlines]] and [[Clickair]], and also a focus for [[Spanair]], [[Air Europa]] and [[Iberia Airlines|Iberia]]. The airport mainly serves domestic and European destinations, but some airlines offer destinations in [[Asia]] and the [[United States]]. The airport is connected to the city by highway, commuter train and scheduled bus service. The airport handled 30,008,152 passengers <ref>[http://www14.aena.es/csee/ccurl/Anyo%202006.pdf]</ref> in 2006. A new terminal is being built, and its expected to enter service in 2009.
 
[[Sabadell Airport]] is a smaller airport in the nearby town of [[Sabadell]], devoted to pilot training, advertising flights, aerotaxi and private flights. Some low-cost airlines, like [[Ryanair]] and [[Martinair]], prefer to use [[Girona-Costa Brava Airport]], situated about 90&nbsp;km to the north of Barcelona and [[Reus Airport]], situated 77&nbsp;km to the south.
Good points you bring up. Maybe you should address them on the proposal page and see how they're taken? [[User:HKT|HKT]]<sup>[[User talk:HKT|Talk]]</sup> 15:17, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Image:Catalunya-Barcelona-Maremagnum.jpg|thumb|200px|The footbridge that connects the Port Vell to the Maremagnum.]]
*HKT: For now it seems that the consensus of the discussion at this point, is to stick with very broad categories, so I don't want to rock the boat too much. There are plenty of other areas larger than the religion ones that are being classed together, so let's wait and see if anyone else wants to see smaller categories. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 15:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 
===Seaport===
== Son of the Chofetz Chaim? ==
The Port of Barcelona has a 2000-year history and a great contemporary commercial importance. It is the most important Mediterranean port for general cargo of containers and cruisers. The port is managed by the Port Authority of Barcelona. Its 7.86&nbsp;km² are divided into three zones: Port Vell (the Old Port), the commercial port and the logistics port ([[Barcelona Free Port]]). The port is undergoing an enlargement that will double its size thanks to diverting the mouth of the [[Llobregat]] river 2&nbsp;km to the south.<ref>[http://www.apb.es/en/WELCOME Port de Barcelona]</ref>
 
The Port Vell area also houses the Maremagnum (a commercial mall), a multiplex cinema, the [[IMAX]] Port Vell and an aquarium.
Hi IZAK, take a look at [[Eliezer Poupko|this]]. I found this short biography of this Rov in the 1961 edition of the American Jewish Yearbook in the obituaries section (it's all online). I have a strong hunch that he was related in some way to the [[Yisrael Meir Kagan|Chofetz Chaim]]. This is because:
*His surname was "Poupko" - the same as the Chofetz Chaim
*He was born in Radin
 
===Public transportation===
He also received positions in the [[Agudas HaRabbonim]]. If you know anything or can investigate his link with the Chofetz Chaim, I'd be grateful. Many thanks, [[User:Nesher|Nesher]] 11:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Tranbaix.jpg|thumb|right|Barcelona's new "Trambaix" streetcars]]
Barcelona is served by a comprehensive local public transport network that includes a [[metro]], a [[bus]] network, two separate [[tram]] networks (one of them, the Tramvia blau,<ref>[http://www.tmb.net/en_US/barcelona/moute/planols/planotramviablau.jsp Information of Tramvia Blau]</ref> connects to the Tibidabo [[funicular]]), and several funiculars and [[aerial tramway|aerial cable cars]]. The [[Barcelona Metro]] network comprises nine lines, identified by an "L" followed by the line number as well as by individual colours. Most of the network is operated by the [[Transports Metropolitans de Barcelona]] (TMB), but three lines are FGC commuter lines that run through the city. When finished, the L9 will be the longest underground metro line in Europe with 42.6km.
 
The TMB also operates the city's tram networks, known as [[Trambaix]] and [[Trambesòs]], and the city's daytime bus network, as well as a touristic bus service. The night bus network, known as Nitbus, is operated by [[Mohn SL. Transports Ciutat Comtal|Mohn]]. [[Transports Ciutat Comtal]] operates the regular Tomb Bus (across the Diagonal avenue) and Aerobus (to the airport) services. Other companies operate services that connect the city with towns in the metropolitan area.
:Hi, I found your question most intriguing, so I did some research in the volumnious Artscroll biography about the [[Chafetz Chaim]]. I did not find any evidence of a link between him and Rabbi [[Eliezer Poupko]]. For one thing, there is no mention of Yisrael Meir Kagan's name being Poupko, and for another, the Chafetz Chaim had two sons and two daughters by his first wife. The ''youngest'' of these sons was born in 1869. (Eliezer Poupko was born in 1886.) From his second marriage the Chafetz Chaim only had one daughter, who married Rabbi [[Menachem Mendel Zaks]] and from whom all the living descendants of the Chafetz Chaim sprang. [[User:Yoninah|Yoninah]] 16:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 
The [[Funicular de Montjuïc]] cable car climbs the [[Montjuïc]] hill. The cable cars of [[Funicular de Vallvidrera|Vallvidrera]] and [[Funicular de Tibidabo|Tibidabo]] climb the [[Tibidabo]] hill. The city has two aerial cable cars: one to the Montjuïc castle and another that runs via [[Torre Jaume I]] and [[Torre Sant Sebastia]] over the port.
==Israeli apartheid==
Hi IZAK. Could you please restore the article to its original state? The move is considered unilateral and many contributors would argue against that. If you believe that the article should use the (phrase) than please discuss it. Let me know about your thoughts. Thanks in advance. CHeers -- ''[[User:FayssalF|Szvest]] 19:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)'' <small>[[User talk:FayssalF|<font style="background: orange"><sup>''Wiki me up&#153;''</sup></font>]]</small>
*Hi Faysall: The move was actually fine editing because the article itself begins with that EXACT self-description that it is a PHRASE, so it's 100% part of the article's definition of itself and its subsequent content -- a discussion about a [[phrase]], nothing more and nothing less. Knowing that it's only a phrase helps keep perspective on its subject-matter and the discussion. Sincerely, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 20:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 
Barcelona is a major hub for [[RENFE]], the Spanish state railway network, and its main intercity train station is [[Sants Estació]]. The [[AVE]] [[high-speed rail]] system was recently extended from [[Madrid]] to [[Tarragona]] in southern Catalonia, and is expected to reach Barcelona by 2007. [[Cercanías|Renfe cercanías/rodalies]] and the [[Ferrocarrils de la Generalitat de Catalunya]] (FGC) run Barcelona's widespread [[commuter train]] service.
Whengoogling this phrase the google results are most direting to aparhide in "". The name of the article should include those as well. [[User:Zeq|Zeq]] 05:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Image:050529 Barcelona 107b.jpg|thumb|left|Barcelona taxi]]
== Picture on user page ==
The [[Estació del Nord]] (Northern Station), a former train station that was renovated for the 1992 Olympic Games, now serves as the terminus for long-distance and regional bus services.
 
Barcelona has a [[Taxicab|metered taxi]] fleet governed by the Institut Metropolità del Taxi (Metropolitan Taxi Institute), composed of more than 10,000 cars. Most of the licenses are in the hands of self-employed drivers.<ref>[http://bcnweb2.bcn.es:8885/taxi/infocorp/informacio.html L'Administració i la gestió del Taxi de Barcelona]</ref> With their black and yellow livery, Barcelona's taxis are easily spotted.
I loooove the Jerusalem photo on your user page. Did you take it yourself? And lawks, is the temple's roof seriously that colour? Gorgeous. I think it'd make a good jigsaw, too. [[User:Lady BlahDeBlah|Lady BlahDeBlah]] 20:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
*Hi Lady: Thanks for your positive comments. The photo is at [[:Image:Jerusalem from mt olives.jpg]] and I found it in the article about [[Jerusalem]] a few other users have also linked to it. The one below ([[:Image:Jerusalem clouds.jpg]]) is the one I really like. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 20:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC) :
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On March 22, 2007<ref>[http://www.bicing.com/noticias/detalle_noticia.php?TU5fTk9USUNJQVM%3D&Ng%3D%3D&MQ%3D%3D Bicing: Noticies: Data d'inici 22 de març a les 14:00 h. Pots realitzar l'alta al servei a partir del dia 16/03/07.]</ref>, Barcelona's City Council started the Bicing service, a bicycle service understood as a public transport. Once the user has their user card, they can take a bicycle from any of the 100 stations spread around the city and use it anywhere the urban area of the city, and then leave it at another station<ref>[http://www.bicing.com/modulos/modulos.php?TU5fSU5GT1JNQUNJT04%3D&NA%3D%3D&Nw%3D%3D Bicing: Què és Bicing?]</ref>. The service has been a success, with 50.000 subscribed users in three months.<ref>[http://www.bicing.com/noticias/detalle_noticia.php?TU5fTk9USUNJQVM%3D&Ng%3D%3D&MzA%3D Bicing: Notícies: EL BICING JA TÉ MÉS DE 50.000 ABONATS.]</ref>
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===Roads and highways===
Look at [[user:Zeq]] [[User:85.65.56.28|85.65.56.28]] 09:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Barcelona is belted by two Rondes, the Ronda de Dalt (on the mountain side) and the Ronda del Litoral (alongside the coast), two partially-covered<ref>[http://www.bcn.es/turisme/english/turisme/rutes/rondes_fr.htm The covered Rondes (by-pass)]</ref> fast highways with several exits that allow to bypass the city.
*Hi Anonymous: What should I "see" when I "look"? [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 23:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 
The city's main arteries include the Diagonal Avenue, which crosses the city in diagonal (hence the name); the Meridiana Avenue which leads to the Glories Place and connects with the Diagonal Avenue and the Gran Via de les Corts Catalanes, which crosses the city from north to south, including the center of the city.
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==Sister Reconsider cities==
Barcelona has [[Town twinning|sister relationships]] with many places worldwide:
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*{{flagicon|Italy}} [[Alghero]], [[Italy]]
*{{flagicon|Algeria}} [[Algiers]], [[Algeria]]
*{{flagicon|Belgium}} [[Antwerp]], [[Belgium]]
*{{flagicon|United States}} [[Boston, Massachusetts|Boston]], [[United States|USA]]
*{{flagicon|South Korea}} [[Busan]], [[South Korea]]
*{{flagicon|Germany}} [[Cologne]], [[Germany]]
*{{flagicon|Russia}} [[St.Petersburg]], [[Russia]]
*{{flagicon|Ireland}} [[Dublin]], [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]
*{{flagicon|Palestine}} [[Gaza]], [[Palestinian National Authority]]
*{{flagicon|Poland}} [[Gdańsk]], [[Poland]]
*{{flagicon|Scotland}} [[Glasgow]], [[Scotland]]
* {{flagicon|UAE}} [[Dubai]], [[United Arab Emirates]]
Other forms of cooperation and city friendship similar to the twin city programmes:
* {{flagicon|Serbia}} [[Niš]], [[Serbia]]
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*{{flagicon|Turkey}} [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]
*{{flagicon|Japan}} [[Kobe]], [[Japan]]
*{{flagicon|Colombia}} [[Medellín]], [[Colombia]]
*{{flagicon|Uruguay}} [[Montevideo]], [[Uruguay]]
*{{flagicon|France}} [[Montpellier]], [[France]]
*{{flagicon|Canada}} [[Montreal]], [[Canada]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[Rio de Janeiro]], [[Brazil]]
*{{flagicon|Brazil}} [[São Paulo]], [[Brazil]]
*{{flagicon|Bosnia and Herzegovina}} [[Sarajevo]], [[Bosnia-Herzegovina]]
*{{flagicon|Israel}} [[Tel Aviv]], [[Israel]]
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==Other sights==
I urge you to reconsider your vote. Not because the phrase does not exist it does but the problem is how it is used in wikipedia. [[WP:NOT]] and [[WP:NPOV]] are clear but there is inability today in wikipedia to implemnet them. (this article is one example out of many). To describe the term/phrase does not mean giving free license to quote all the ridiculus allegations against israel and turn wikipedia into an internet discussion board (this <b> is </b> what this article is now).
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image:Sta-eulalia.jpg|[[Barcelona Cathedral]]
Image:Sagrada familia by night 2006.jpg|[[Sagrada Família]] at night
Image:InteriorSantaMariaMarBarcelona.jpg|[[Santa Maria del Mar (Barcelona)|Santa Maria del Mar]] Church
Image:050529 Barcelona 099.jpg|[[Santa Maria del Pi]] Church
Image:Spain.Barcelona.Porta.del.Angel.jpg| [[Portal de l'Àngel]]
Image:Jfader batto facade.jpg|[[Casa Batlló]]
Image:Casa Milà - Barcelona, Spain - Jan 2007.jpg|[[Casa Milà]] (La Pedrera)
Image:050529 Barcelona 135.jpg| The [[Palau Nacional]] which houses the [[Museu Nacional d'Art de Catalunya|MNAC]]
Image:Domènech.i.Montaner.Palau.Musica.Catalana.8.Barcelona.JPG| [[Palau de la Música Catalana]]
Image:Arc de Triomf Barcelona.JPG| The [[Arc de Triomf]]
Image:Casavicens.jpg| [[Casa Vicens]]
Image:Barcellona palazzo.jpg|[[Castell dels tres Dracs]]
Image:PlayaBacelonetta2.JPG|[[Hotel Arts]] (l.) and [[Torre Mapfre]] (each 154 m in height) seen from [[Platja de la Barceloneta]]
Image:Torre Agbar - Barcelona, Spain - Jan 2007.jpg|[[Torre Agbar]]
Image:PortVell.JPG|Rambla de Mar in Port Vell (Old Harbour)
Image:Barcelona.Tibidabo.Torre.Collserola.jpg| The [[Torre de Collserola]] in the [[Tibidabo|Tibidabo Hill]] is the highest structure in Barcelona (288m).
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==See also==
If in an article about the iarnina president his holocause denial statements are only described " controversial statements" the article about "Israeli aprthide" could just say that this is a phrase used in the propeganda against israel right to exist and refer the reader to articls about the Palestinian territories, israel, Israeli arabs, palestinians etc....no reason to keep this article as it is now . [[User:Zeq|Zeq]] 05:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
*[[Barcelona metropolitan area]]
*[[Urban Region of Barcelona]]
*[[List of tallest buildings and structures in Barcelona]]
*[[Skateboarding in Barcelona]]
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==References==
*Hi Zeq: I agree with your sentiments, but we must deal with this subject, whether we like it or not. You could include all these points in the article itself but you have pushed too strong and now you have put yourself in a tough position (by being banned from it). The article can also be put into [[:Category:Anti-Semitism]] and [[:Category:Ethnic slurs]], which I will do in fact, but we cannot run away from it. I think you are over-reacting. I share your devotion to Israel, but we cannot function like the [[Taliban]] if we want to be respected. Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 05:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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**I disgree. This article include content from a source (global exchnage) which clearly does not conform with [[WP:RS]] - such content need to be removed. [[User:Zeq|Zeq]] 05:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
***Ok, so you could discuss all those valid points and put them into the article, that is how Wikipedia articles are built. This is not the first controversial article about the Arab-Israeli and Israeli-Palestinian struggle and it will not be the last, believe me I have fought some tough battles myself, so go ahead and find good sources that are good critiques of this name and include them in the article, but you have still not convinced me why this article should be destroyed. Even many Israeli leftsists use this label, another reason it cannot be ignored. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 06:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 
==Bibliography==
Zeq: By the way, even though I wish that the false book ''[[The Protocols of the Elders of Zion]]'' did not exist and was never invented, but it ''must'' have an article about it on Wikipedia because of its notability and notoriety. We cannot wish these things away and we cannot expect to impose [[mind control]] to get positive views accepted. I have faith in the power of truth and that a lie will not stand up to scrutiny. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 05:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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*Not the same thing. In nay case, listen to what I say: I would support having this article if it could describe the phrase and it's use correctly. Instead the article has become an intenet news group debating "is israel an aparhide state or nor" ? It is not an issue of what i "pushed too far". It is an issue of [[WP:RS]], [[WP:NOT]] . that is all. [[User:Zeq|Zeq]] 05:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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**Zeq: If "that is all" then you have a very good case and argument but who is to blame that you do not know how to deal with so-called "[[Anglo-Saxons|ANGLO-SAXON]]" (meaning [[English language]]) speakers and writers and editors who go by [[manners]] and [[decorum]] that most Israelis have never heard about? That is why they love to quote [[Wikipedia:Civility]]! (I know it's easy to preach...) Imagine that you are part of a team of editors and not part of a mission to annihilate people you disagree with. That is why I say, calm down and learn to speak in a way that will help you provide good information for articles instead of getting into useless fights and then being banned. I am hoping that you will get there quickly because your energy and knowledge are important and are needed. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 06:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 
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IZAK, my last edit was strictly editorial -- I had noticed that text about dress was in the hair covering section and vice versa, and moved text to its proper ___location. I linkified [[Berakhot]] and tidied up a bit. Most of the matters you complain of, including the reference to "Ultra-Orthodox", were not added by me. As to kol Isha, perhaps it might be useful to add the Seridei Eish responsum on Zemirot. --[[User:Shirahadasha|Shirahadasha]] 12:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
* [http://www.bcn.cat/english/ihome.htm Official Website of Barcelona]
* [http://www.map-barcelona.com Detailed Map of Barcelona]
* [http://www.tmb.net/en_US/home.jsp Official Website Of Barcelona's Metropolitan Transports]
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* [http://wiki.worldflicks.org/barcelona.html Wiki.WorldFlicks @ Barcelona: Wiki with Geolocated photos on Map/Sat]
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Hi IZAK, I'm slightly befuddled as to why you haven't responded to my last two messages:
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* Why don't you come over and vote at the [[Wikipedia:Orthodox Rabbinical Biography Collaboration of the Week|Orthodox Rabbinical Biography Collaboration of the Week]]? You can also help edit the curent collaboration, Rabbi [[Hershel Schachter]].
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* Do you know anything of Rabbi [[Eliezer Poupko]]?
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Your expertise and assistance in any of these matters would be much appreciated. Many thanks, [[User:Nesher|Nesher]] 12:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
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**Hi Nesher: Often, I just don't have the time for things so it's nothing deliberate, and believe it or not, also quite often, when it appears that some things are doing well, I don't get involved, since I abide by the rule of "[[If it's not broken don't fix it]]"! Best wishes, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 07:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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{{{1|[[User:Bhadani|Bhadani]]}}} has smiled at you! Smiles promote [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|WikiLove]] and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{tls|smile}}, {{tls|smile2}} or {{tls|smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! {{{2|}}}
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*Thank you Bhadani, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 07:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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Izak I had no idea there was an admin with a similar name as mine! That's alright tho, as I am more comfortable with being called Rivka than anything else. I am certainly not very experienced at all (I should probably take a few journalism classes) so I doubt, once my and her content is compared, that there will be any mistake as to who is writing what, lol.
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Woe for her, if my writing is mistaken for hers, lol.
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Thanks again, [[User:RivkaRebecca|Rivka]] 15:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
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*Hi Rivka: Enjoy Wikipedia. Take care, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 07:53, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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I saw your name on the Talk page, and hoped that you could evaluate the last few edits. I twice reverted a poorly written claim inserted in the wrong section, and which was already noted in the correct section. Cheers, <font style="color:#22AA00;">'''[[User:Tewfik|Tewfik]]'''</font><font style="color:#888888;"><sup>[[User Talk:Tewfik|Talk]]</sup></font> 23:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
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*Hi Tewfik: I don't have enough time to deal with this issue. Please post your request at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism]]. Best wishes. [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 08:11, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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== Thanks for the welcome message ==
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Shalom Aleichem IZAK, thanks for your welcome message. I was just wondering: this seems to be a standard message posted to new users on the part of putative "mentors". Is this so? If so, how are the "mentors" assigned/how do they choose the newbie they post to? --[[User:Batamtig|Batamtig]] 08:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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*Hi Batamtig: From time to time, when I see new users posting to articles, usually falling into either [[:Category:Jews and Judaism]] or [[:Category:Israel and Zionism]] that are on "my watchlist" I check to see if they have been welcomed. The influx of new users to Wikipedia is far too great for any group to welcome all of them, let alone "mentor" them. Sometimes I find that new users have not been welcomed for months and even for over a year! Any Wikipedians may welcome any new users they wish, whenever they wish, if they so desire. There is nothing stopping two or three established users from welcoming new users. There are no rules about this beyond "be nice and don't bite the newbies"... which I hope comes across when I take the trouble to go over to a newbie's never-before-used talk page and post the <nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki> ([[Template:Welcome]]). Why are you so curious about this and how can I be of help to you? Take care, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 08:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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**I certainly appreciate the welcome. I was curious since I found it kind of "spooky" that your WP contributions were so similar to my interests. Almost as if someone was spying on my browsing! (Obviously I don't mean that seriously). No help needed right now. I'll let you know if I do. Be Well, [[User:Batamtig|Batamtig]] 10:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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***Batamtig: Please consider joining [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism]] based on your interests. No-one can "spy" on your browsing! But, for the record, whenever you ''edit anything'' on Wikipedia ''any'' other Wikipedian can view your typed edits if they so desire by going to your user page and clicking on its "User contributions" button in the "toolbox" on the left side of the page. This helps ensure that people take responsibility for what they write and also ensures that there is a record of everything if any future questions or discussions arise. Feel free to call on me here if you need help (or go to the talk page at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism]] as people there can help out too.) Take care, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 21:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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I note that you are the gatekeeper for all Jewish related articles. Do I or anyone else have to seek your approval in order to make a change to or introduce a new Jewish article, or category? [[User:Wallie|Wallie]] 22:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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*Hi Wallie: You're joking, right? This is Wikipedia where anyone can edit any article. No permission is required of anyone as long as one abides by the rules of Wikipedia. There are many editors who are involved with Judaism-related articles, see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism]] for example. Feel free to ask. Just out of curiosity, what Jewish articles or categories did you want to introduce? Maybe I can help out? Take care, [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 22:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks for the greetings IZAK! [[User:Albert Cheng|Albert Cheng]] 23:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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*My pleasure Albert! [[User:IZAK|IZAK]] 23:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
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[[fi:Barcelona]]
[[sv:Barcelona]]
[[tl:Lungsod ng Barcelona]]
[[th:บาร์เซโลนา]]
[[vi:Barcelona]]
[[tr:Barselona]]
[[uk:Барселона]]
[[vec:Barcełona]]
[[vo:Barcelona (Spanyän)]]
[[zh:巴塞罗那]]