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How is the article not neutral? [[User:DarrenRay|DarrenRay]] 21:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
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===July 14===
 
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:It gives the basic details about her career, and then launches into a big negative paragraph, including the statement that it some trivial event was "when she first came to public attention", which is a bit rich. Methinks she first came to public attention when she got elected to parliament. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 03:58, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 
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:: I removed the word 'came' to attention and replace with 'gained', does that work better? [[User:DarrenRay|DarrenRay]] 04:59, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 
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:::It's better, but it's still bad. This selective quotation stuff is getting rather old. If I wrote [[Sang Nguyen]] in the style of this and [[Carlo Carli]], you'd be screaming blue murder. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 05:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
==== [[Template:Infobox DefunctNHLTeam]] ====
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Redundant template since [[Template:NHL Team]] was modified to replace it. — [[User:NeoChaosX|NeoChaosX]] <font size="1"> ([[User talk:NeoChaosX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/NeoChaosX|walk]])</font> 21:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', nobody is using it. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]] ([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]]) 23:48, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above. [[User:Shalom|Shalom]] <sup>[[User talk:Shalom|Hello]]</sup> 01:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' unused. [[User:Hydrogen Iodide|Hydrogen Iodide]] 17:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 
==== [[Template:Crystalball]] ====
::::What do you mean by selective quotation? there isn't a quote in the article. [[User:DarrenRay|DarrenRay]] 10:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
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This template isn't used at all (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=Template%3ACrystalball&title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere&namespace=4]), and seems unnecessary; the term "[[WP:CRYSTAL|crystal ball]]" usually refers to something being ''predicted''. Checkuser doesn't ''predict'' anything. I don't really see the purpose of this template; {{tl|fishing}} seems to cover them all.. <b>[[User:Salaskan|<span style="color:red">Sala</span>]][[User talk:Salaskan|<span style="color:gold">Skan</span>]]</b> 20:50, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' (at least for now). I have a recollection, though I'm not going to be able to find a diff, that this template was requested by one of the checkusers (probably [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]]) for a specific purpose. I don't think it's doing any harm, but perhaps it would be best to raise the issue on the WP:RfCU talkpage before bringing it here. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 20:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
**I put a link to this TfD on that page. <b>[[User:Salaskan|<span style="color:red">Sala</span>]][[User talk:Salaskan|<span style="color:gold">Skan</span>]]</b> 21:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*I think you'd better ask the checkusers. Post this at [[WT:RFCU]], please. "Checkuser is not a crystal ball" refers to a particular class of requests, like, "I'm sure Thatcher131 is a sockpuppet of someone but I'm not sure who." I know it has been used in the past, maybe someone has been substituting the templates. In any case, even if the checkusers most currently active on RFCU don't use it, that doesn't mean they won't some time. On the other had, if someone really wants to send that message, it can be recreated. Whatever. [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 02:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
**Isn't {{tl|fishing}} used for such cases? <b>[[User:Salaskan|<span style="color:red">Sala</span>]][[User talk:Salaskan|<span style="color:gold">Skan</span>]]</b> 16:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
**By the way, you say it "has been used in the past", but according to [[:Image:Crystalball.jpg#File links]], it hasn't. <b>[[User:Salaskan|<span style="color:red">Sala</span>]][[User talk:Salaskan|<span style="color:gold">Skan</span>]]</b> 16:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
***I've definitely seen it used. Perhaps the formatting of the old case archives has been revised or something. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] 16:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Defer to the checkusers''' either way. As far as I can tell, there are no archived uses and the only previous discussion concluded that [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Noticeboard/Archive3|it might be possible to use it]], but [[User_talk:Mackensen/Archive11#New_templates|it was created as a joke]]. -- [[User:Gavia immer|Gavia immer]] [[User_talk:Gavia immer|(talk)]] 17:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Comment.''' I'm active in clerking for checkuser requests, just in the interest of disclosure. [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Clerks/Noticeboard/Archive3#Indicator_templates]] includes some very relevant discussion on this particular template. Also, it seems likely that we'll be shifting at least partially toward {{tl|CUI}} at some point in the future, anyway, so I'm not sure if this is really all that important, either way. &ndash; <span style="font-family: Garamond">[[User:Luna Santin|<font color="#1E90FF">'''Luna Santin'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Luna Santin|talk]])</span> 18:40, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 
==== [[Template:B3]] ====
:::::Selective inclusion would perhaps be more accurate. Left figures receive a stub, plus a referenced list of anything negative they've ever done. Right figures, if you bother writing on them at all, receive an article that omits anything controversial they've ever done. This is not neutral writing. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 06:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''redirect''' to [[Template:Uw-vandalism3]] as a [[WP:CSD#G2|test page]]. <b>[[User:Salaskan|<span style="color:red">Sala</span>]][[User talk:Salaskan|<span style="color:gold">Skan</span>]]</b> 13:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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This is not really a template, its just like a warning on a users talk page. [[User:Rlest|Rlest]] 19:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''speedy delete''' - test page, housecleaning. {{tl|b1}} and {{tl|b2}} as well. [[User:The Evil Spartan|The Evil Spartan]] 20:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
* '''Speedy delete'''. Should be used in the user's userspace, rather than clogging the template space. [[User:Spebi|<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: #002BB8">Sebi</span>]]&nbsp;<sub style="color: darkgreen;">&#91;[[User talk:Spebi|<span style="color:darkgreen">talk</span>]]&#93;</sub> 06:18, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' now that they redirect to [[Template:Uw-delete3]] etc. [[User:WODUP|'''''<font color="#4169E1">W<font color="#191970">ODU</font>P</font>''''']] 02:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Advert3]] ====
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Template is an unnecessary duplicate of [[Template:uw-spam3]]. [[User:Rlest|Rlest]] 19:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:I would say '''delete''' and redirect to {{tl|spam3}}. The two are nearly identical; they can be fused without any significant problems. [[User:The Evil Spartan|The Evil Spartan]] 20:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to {{tl|uw-advert3}}. There is a minor difference between spam links and advertising. [[User:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">Grace</span><span style="color:#000;">notes</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">T</span>]]</sup> <span title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 July 14">§</span> 00:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
* '''creator's comment''': I created the "advert" series (before all this uw- stuff came along) for the reason outlined by Gracenotes. If the two series were to be fused it might make things easier. I think there's also an advert2 and advert4. [[User_talk:Yandman|<font color="red">'''yandman'''</font>]] 16:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 
==== [[Template:Imageow3]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''deleted''' by template's creator. [[User:IronGargoyle|IronGargoyle]] 04:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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This is a bit of a useless template, you cannot upload images to Wikipedia under the same name and there is the regular templates such as {{tl|uw-vandalism1}}.. [[User:Rlest|Rlest]] 19:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:Wow, the uploader's been around since ''Feb 2002.'' Ahem, I mean, '''rewrite''' to be less specific - just have it be a template warning against uploading over another image period. [[User:The Evil Spartan|The Evil Spartan]] 20:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:WikiProject African Union]] ====
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The result of the debate was {{{1|}}} '''speedily deleted''' as [[WP:CSD#G6|housekeeping]]. [[User:Mattbr|matt]][[User talk:Mattbr|br]] 10:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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Unused template for a defunct WikiProject. — [[User:PC78|PC78]] 13:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Speedy Delete''' G6. Unused template that was left over from a deleted wikiproject. --[[User:Hdt83|<sub><font color="336611" ><b>Hdt83</b></font></sub>]] [[User talk:Hdt83|<sup><font color="blue" face="Arial"><b>Chat</b></font></sup>]] 06:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:ACC Field Hockey Facilities]] ====
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Unnecessary navbox, especially considering that 2/3 of the classified venues are currently redlinks. A classic case of creating a template for the sake of creating a template. [[User:Fuzzy510|fuzzy510]] 05:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Listify''' I'm a little uncomfortable with so many redlinks in a template, per nom, but the information should not be altogether lost. [[User:Shalom|Shalom]] <sup>[[User talk:Shalom|Hello]]</sup> 01:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - the template encourages creation of the missing articles, and, once they are created, will assist in navigation. --[[User:B|<font color="maroon">B</font>]] 13:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 
==== [[Template:Atlantic Sun Baseball Venues]] ====
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Unnecessary navbox, especially considering that 75% of the classified venues are currently redlinks. [[User:Fuzzy510|fuzzy510]] 04:14, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' but then again, I created it! Seriously, I was hoping someone with more knowledge of these parks could supply some more information, especially if they saw such a template at the bottom of the [[Atlantic Sun Conference]] page. To my knowledge, the only other baseball conference currently with such a template is the ACC, which admittedly is complete. So if I need to wait until more of the venues have entries themselves, I guess I can do that. But, the ACC Field Hockey template has roughly 66% of its classified venues currently up as redlinks -- and it's been around since Nov 26 of last year. My A-Sun Baseball template is up for 6 days and it's nominated for deletion. What gives? [[User:Naytchrboy|Naytchrboy]] 05:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
**There's an ACC ''field hockey venue template''? Oh dear. Be back in a second..... --[[User:Fuzzy510|fuzzy510]] 05:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' this is actually a useful nav template, and could conceivably be used by somebody (the redlinks are future articles). [[User:The Evil Spartan|The Evil Spartan]] 20:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
==== [[Template:Nicolekidmanfilms]] ====
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While I'm moderately okay with these templates for directors, I'm fairly certain there's a precadent for them being deleted if the subject is just an actor. After all, the template is redundant with [[Nicole Kidman#Filmography]], which covers this much better. — [[User:EVula|EVula]] <span style="color: #999;">// [[User talk:EVula|talk]] // [[User:EVula/admin|<span style="color: #366;">&#9775;</span>]] //</span> 23:55, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Weak Delete''' - hard to say, with this, but Nicole Kidman is not ''that'' prolific. --[[User:Haemo|Haemo]] 03:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. EVula ''is'' right, there's precedent: [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 April 11#Template:Matthew McConaughey]], in which a whole bunch of these templates were deleted. [[User:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">Grace</span><span style="color:#000;">notes</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">T</span>]]</sup> <span title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 July 14">§</span> 03:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Weak Keep''' - I see no harm in keeping and only see benefit in this instance. — [[User:Ian Lee|Ian Lee]] ([[User talk:Ian Lee|Talk]]) 21:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
**The only possible harm in this template is consistency. Take a look at [[Ocean's Eleven (2001 film)]]: suppose we have a template for every major actor or actress. At the bottom of that page would be <nowiki>{{George Clooney films}}, {{Brad Pitt films}}, {{Matt Damon films}}, {{Andy Garcia films}}, {{Julia Roberts films}}, {{Bernie Mac films}}, {{Elliot Gould films}}, {{Carl Reiner films}}</nowiki>, and possibly others. Given the extensive acting history of these actors/actresses, navigation could take up a screen or two at the bottom. There seems to be no reason why such a template should be kept for Nicole Kidman. (Note: we ''do'' have [[:Category:Film director templates|director templates]], since rarely does one film have more than one director, same as we have [[:Category:Author navigational boxes|author templates]].) [[User:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">Grace</span><span style="color:#000;">notes</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Gracenotes|<span style="color:#960;">T</span>]]</sup> <span title="Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 July 14">§</span> 02:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delte''' and any other actor templates we have. This is the sort of thing lists are for. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 00:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. A complete set of these is impractical, per Gracenotes and the function is better served by a list, per DGG. — [[User:Mholland|mholland]] [[User_talk:Mholland|(talk)]] 15:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)