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==Hello==
Hello Nightstallion,
A rather good item about the two euro commemorative coins.
*I like very much the présentation of the table with the 2 euro's photos. The size of the coins seems to be optimal (we should try to have real scans of the coins)
*I should have prefer a shorter introduction about the '''€2 commemorative coins'''.
*Then a first paragraph more official with a reference to the ''Official Journal of the European Union'' with the item ''2003/C 247/03 Communication from the Commission on the recommendation of 29 September 2003 concerning a common practice for changes to the design of national obverse sides of euro circulation coins''
**direct link to http://europa.eu/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/dat/2003/c_247/c_24720031015en00050006.pdf
**in that part you can make a summary (like the one you have done)
*For each coin in the table, just ad the reference to the OJ
**exemple : for the first one (the 2 euro Greek) : ''2004/C 91/06 New national side of euro circulation coins'' with the link : http://europa.eu/eur-lex/pri/en/oj/dat/2004/c_091/c_09120040415en00050005.pdf
*Just have a look to the frenck Wiki : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_%28pi%C3%A8ces_comm%C3%A9moratives_de_2_euros%29
Regards. Marc --[[User:Flafla89|Flafla89]] 19:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
:I tried to implement all of your changes... Good? (Trying to make this a feature article out of nowhere, so I need all the feedback I can get. ;)) &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 17:53, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
::Thank you for having implemented these propositions. It seems rather good.
::I 've added some light changes :
::*a first paragraph just to make the intro shorter.
::*About the coins, it should be better to have the titles at every picture : Image Country - Design - Volume - Date - Reference.
::I propose to add the engraver's name. Marc--[[User:Flafla89|Flafla89]] 16:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
:::Thanks! As I've said, trying to make this my first self-written featured article. ;)
:::The intro is better now; I had considered the same notion, but couldn't agree with myself on either a title or on where to cut the first paragraph in half. Thanks!
:::I personally think that it's good the way it is, we needn't give the columns for every coin (especially since it's rather clear what each column contains from context); I wouldn't be against including the engraver and/or designer, ''if'' we can find out who they are for all of them.
:::Thanks for your input! I'll add the remaining four coins and information on upcoming issues in the next (few) day(s). &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 
==Motif==
 
Everything looks good. To me tho, motif describes an ongoing theme throughout a set. I would use design, or such. But since this is the euro, maybe motif is a more european definition. The name...[[Euro commemorative coins(2E)or(E2)]](the E is euro symbol, just didn't want to look up how to do it :) or [[E2 commemorative coins]]. Other than that, it's nice. :) [[User:Searchme|<font color="#0047AB">Joe I</font>]] 00:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
:Mh, okay, I'll use design, then. I'll move it to [[€2 commemorative coins]], yeah. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 17:53, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Great page. Maybe under volume you could change "mio" because that doesn't realy look like "million" if that's what it's supposed to be. Otherwise everything is to my liking. – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 02:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
:Oh? "Mio." isn't the usual abbreviation for million in English (it ''is'' in German)? Oops. ^_^; Should I just use "million" or is there some other common abbreviation? Thanks for the laudatio. ;) &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 05:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 
==Bravo !==
Felicitation Nightstallion ! I really appreciate that item on 2 euros commemorative coins. It is one of the best I have ever seen on the net. Marc --[[User:Flafla89|Flafla89]] 19:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks! On that note, I'll move to the final title and nominate for featured-ness. ;) &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 19:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 
 
Cool article. Always curious bout other nation's currency. --[[User:Madchester|Madchester]] 03:05, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
:Thanks! &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Excellent article! Thanks for taking the time to explain what's being pictured on each of the coins. Congratulations as well on gaining FA status. --[[User:Dmleach|Dmleach]] 13:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:Thanks! &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== €2 euro coin? ==
 
The introductory paragraph contains the text "€2 euro coin". Isn't that redundant? Shouldn't it be either "€2 coin" or "2 euro coin"? [[User:Markkawika|Markkawika]] 08:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:You're correct, of course. Changed. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 08:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Order ==
 
Do you think that the list of the coins should be by the day they came out? – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 18:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:I personally prefer listing them by issuing countries. Of course, I don't [[WP:OWN]] this article, so if others agree... ;) &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 20:59, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Well... I guess nobody has anything to say... – [[User:Zntrip|Zntrip]] 01:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:''shrugs'' Shall we leave it as is for now, then? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 08:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
:In my opinion, it is better to keep the date of issue. Marc --[[User:Flafla89|Flafla89]] 15:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
::Year-by-year basis is better, since there would be less headers than having one for each country that has released a coin. --[[User:Madchester|Madchester]] 01:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
To clarify: The discussion is not whether to have sections for years or for countries, but whether to sort them by issue date or by country in the year sections. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Plural name? ==
 
Why is this at [[€2 commemorative coins]] instead of [[€2 commemorative coin]] per naming conventions? Is it because there are multiple different kinds of them? I must assume there's some reason for this to have gotten by all the FA reviewers. [[User:Deco|Deco]] 02:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Actually... I don't have an elaborate reason for it, I just went by precedent ([[euro coins]]) and because it sounded "right", while the singular form didn't. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
*I'm in the singular camp, which sounds more "right" to me. [[User:Declare|Declare]] 09:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
: yeah, I would have thought per convention a renaming to the singular is in order. <sub>└</sub><sup>'''[[User:UkPaolo| UkPaolo]]'''</sup>/<sub>''[[User Talk:UkPaolo|talk]]''</sub><sup>┐</sup> 13:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Mh. Well, we can, of course, move it, but then [[euro coins]] would also have to be moved. I think we should wait with this until it's not FAotD any longer, shouldn't we? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:Using the name "€2 commemorative coin" would imply that there is only one kind of coin. But this page describes all the diffrent €2 commemorative coins, so the plural name makes much more sense to me. --[[User:Boivie|Boivie]] 14:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::Yeah, perhaps you're right... I'm not sure to be honest, doesn't really matter. I certainly wouldn't think about moving it whilst it's on the front page, Nightstallion! <sub>└</sub><sup>'''[[User:UkPaolo| UkPaolo]]'''</sup>/<sub>''[[User Talk:UkPaolo|talk]]''</sub><sup>┐</sup> 14:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
*It doesn't hold this implication for me, and then there's the matter of basic convention (+ "coin" can also work as a mass noun). [[User:Declare|Declare]] 03:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Obscenity in the coin ==
[[Image:Obscene-eu-coin.png|thumb|right|100px|Controversy over Norway in the EU 2c coin]]Today's featured picture features an interesting osbcenity. While I was the one that uploaded it, I did create it at the request of another user who uploaded a newspaper clip of the same thing. &mdash;[[User:This user has left wikipedia|This user has left wikipedia]] 05:04 [[2006-01-27]]
 
:[http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/mermaid.htm This sounds familiar]. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 05:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::Wouldn't that be "controversy over '''lack of''' Norway"? ;) Besides, that'll be changed on [[1 January]] [[2007]]. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:::Whats happening on the [[1 January]] [[2007]]? Norway isn't joining, is it? [[User:Seabhcan|Seabhcán]] 11:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::::No. (Not yet, anyway. Discussion on that to be re-opened after the next Norwegian legislative elections in 2009.) What will happen is that the common reverse side will change to include all of Europe, not just the EU member states (currently, only the EU-15 are depicted; to avoid having to change the common side every three years as the Balkans &ndash;and possibly other countries&ndash; join the EU, they opted for this change; cf. [[euro coins]]). &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:::::Ah, much better. It was silly only to show EU members on coins, while showing everyone on the notes. What about Iceland, Greenland and Turkey? And how will they fit in cyprus, for that matter? Ireland's going to look very small! [[User:Seabhcan|Seabhcán]] 12:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
::::::Cf. [[:Image:Newcommoneuro10c+1.png|the image on the page I linked to]]; neither of the four you mentioned is on it, I'm afraid. I doubt they'll change that when Iceland or Turkey join, though. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Quotas & Minting ==
 
I was looking at this article and some of the linked ones and got to wondering how it is determined how many coins each country can make and possible issues that may exist when different countries mint the same curreny, but I didn't find it. I imagine this information must be covered somewhere, and I think it would be useful to some how link the articles.--[[User:Paraphelion|Paraphelion]] 10:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Every year, the European Union edit in the Official Journal of the European Union how many coins each country of the Eurozone is allowed to mint. I should find back the article reference during next week end. ;-). Marc --[[User:Flafla89|Flafla89]] 10:40, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks! Just to be clear, I meant linking to other wiki articles, but of course external articles could be useful too. The featured article is what made me aware that the Euro wasn't minted by some central agency, and seems like a natural thing to wonder after reading the article.--[[User:Paraphelion|Paraphelion]] 11:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Main page FA already? ==
 
This article was only nominated for FA status 17 days ago. Surely putting it as the main page FA was rather premature?
 
I'm not especially criticising the article itself (and obviously I'm content to have subject matter from my area feature on the main page), but it does surely suggest lax standards in the choosing of articles for the main page.
 
[[User:Zoney|'''zoney''']] <span style="color:green; font-size:larger"> &#09827;</span> [[User talk:Zoney|'''talk''']] 13:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
:I don't even know who selects the FAotD, but you should probably ask her/him about this. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:58, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:: [[User:Raul654]] is in charge; see [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article]] and the corresponding talk page for more information . [[User:Schutz|Schutz]] 14:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Can't see symbol before number 2... ==
 
Already mentioned on the main page, too: Firefox 1.0.4 on Mac OSX can't see the "eurosymbol" in this article. Strangely enough, it DOES appear in the title bar for the page! I get Editing Talk:(Eurosymbol)2 ... on the title bar at the top of the brower, but (space)2... in the article itself.
 
:I suggest getting 1.5 then. =] &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
 
:: Same deal with 1.5. Some sort of Mac thing? This is my office computer -- I'm not much of a Mac maven. [[User:MattShepherd|MattShepherd]] 15:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:::It's a [[Unicode]] symbol. Do you need different font as your browser default? --[[User:Red King|Red King]] 00:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::::Works fine on my Mac, so I s'pose it's a font issue. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 23:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Directions ==
 
The heads of e.g. Henri, GD of Luxembourg are described as facing left, but are turned toward the right of the image. Is there some terminological convention in numismatics that is being used? If so, perhaps a note to explain this, or a link to a more general explanatory article on numismatic terms, would be useful. --[[User:80.69.0.186|80.69.0.186]] 14:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, it works the same way as on flags and coats of arms. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 23:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Wales? ==
 
I haven't seen one of these coins "for real", but from the image it looks as though the map contains the same omission that appeared in another EU-published map - i.e. they've left Wales off the UK! Can anyone confirm this from a real coin? [[User:Jon Rob|Jon Rob]] 14:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
[[Image:Newcommoneuro10c+1.png|thumb|right|200px|New design from 2007]]
:The common side of these coins is the same as for ordinary 2 euro coins. A new common side will be introduced in 2007, see [[Euro coins#Design changes]] --[[User:Boivie|Boivie]] 14:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Protected! ==
 
It is a real shame for Wikipedia to make an article featured, for everyone to read, and then protect it. What a slap in the face of Wikipedia's goals and reputation.
 
: When there was as much vandalism as there was it was necessary. The ''vandalism'' was a slap in the face of Wikipedia's goals and reputation. [[User:Joturner|joturner]] 00:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
::Absolutely approve. There was a concerted group attack to destroy the article with random pictures and junk. It wasn't even an opposing point of view, but just at the level of kicking in a public telephone box. Letting it go on would destroy Wiki's credibility too. If anyone has some relevant text to add or change, they can put it here. --[[User:Red King|Red King]] 00:33, 28 January 2006 (UTC) (not an admin)
Good choice, but it was to be expected of such a controversial issue like commemorative coinage.--[[User:Paraphelion|Paraphelion]] 00:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
:Was that sarcasm? ;) &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 23:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 
== Error? ==
 
Description: On the left side of the centre part of the coin, the effigy of Grand Duke Henri is depicted (looking to the left)
 
Isn't he looking to the right, not the left? <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:Dblandford|Dblandford]] ([[User talk:Dblandford|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Dblandford|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned--> 29 January 2006, 22:11 (UTC)
 
:We've had that question before. Incidentally, can someone come up with an article link to let all these people wondering about this know that with flags, coats of arms, stamps, coins, and so on, left is right and right is left? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 22:11, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 
Well, we should correct the orientations on practically all coin descriptions in the page, then. I can do that, if you like.--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 05:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
:Why? It's currently correct, isn't it? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] <sup>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda|''Seen this already?'']]</sup> 15:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
I'm afraid, you ''did'' get me confused in the end... So which way is correct? People on the coin ''looking left'' are looking at ''their'' left, right? But everything else on the right side of the coin is on ''our right'' side ''as we look'' at the coin? So it is ''not'' as it is with coats of arms? Please explain...--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 17:43, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
It '''is''' as with coats of arms; everything on the "left" of the coin is on "their" left. Hope I've explained it now... ^_^; Sorry for the confusion! &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] <sup>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda|''Seen this already?'']]</sup> 08:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 
:Well, then have a good look at the pictures and the descriptions. '''Finland 2004''' ''the right side of the pillar'', '''Greece 2004''' ''to the left is the logo of the Olympic Games'', ''to the right is the denomination'', '''Italy 2004''' ''Globe tilted to the right'', ''RI to the right of the globe'', ''mint mark upper left of the globe'', '''Luxembourg 2004''' ''on the left...effigy'', ''the right displays his monogram'', ''twelve stars also on the right'', '''San Marino 2004''' ''SAN MARINO to the right of the bust''... and so on. Practically ''all'' the descriptions should be changed, right? Just say the word and I'll do it.--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 16:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 
::It seems you're right... Never noticed that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, I'd agree with the changes. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] <sup>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda|''Seen this already?'']]</sup> 10:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 
*Gnah! After wandering around for a while in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style]], and staring at a coin crosseyed, the only conclusions i can concieve is they were discussing the metal stamp that rams the design into the coins, hence everything is backwards? Or, more likely but less geeky invention, it's from standing behind ones own shield, heraldratically speaking... If that's not it, i and this thread would love to know what is :) -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 02:11, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 
*Well, yes. I am afraid it is heraldry all over again. It makes ''some'' sense, if you think of portraits of people on the coins looking at ''their'' left, walking to ''their'' right or having things done to ''their'' left arm or right leg. Think of ot anatomically, if it makes you happy. Ask any physician. A patients left arm is always ''his'' left arm, no matter how many people look at it from whichever direction.--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 04:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 
== 2€ Belgium 2005 ==
 
I have the coin ''Belgium-Luxembourg Economic Union'' described in your article and I could upload a picture of the coin. I prefer using pictures of the the actual coins, especially since the picture featured on the page is slightly incorrect regarding the mint symbols at the bottom. My coin is circulated, though. Should I upload it?--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 05:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:Yes, please do so -- on the commons, though, of course. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] <sup>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Elections and Referenda|''Seen this already?'']]</sup> 15:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
:Will do as soon as I get around to it.--[[User:Iago4096|Iago4096]] 17:46, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
 
== 2€ Treaties of Rome 2007 ==
 
First of all, this page is great. Keep up the good work. A couple of days ago a proposal was made for the joined 2007 2 euro coin. Perhaps it's worth mentioning? There's a picture of it at :
http://www.minfin.nl/nl/actueel/nieuwsberichten,2006/07/Europa-doet-voorstel-herdenkingsmunt.html
Perhaps you find it worth mentioning. [[User:BenCastricum|BenCastricum]] 18:04, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
:It's already mentioned in the article; I've preferred only to include picture if the coin has already been released, at least up to now, though we could change that, of course... &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 05:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 
== Sort by date ==
 
The list would be more interesting if it was sorted by date of issuing. It's already sorted by year, so why not completing the chronology of the list rather than listing by the name of the country? [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 14:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
:The problem with that is that one date is not completely clear... If you can give me a source for a date for Finland's 2004 coin, I wouldn't be against rearranging them. <tt>;)</tt> &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 05:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
::It's chronologically listed in the official site. Look at [http://www.ecb.int/bc/coins/comm/html/comm_2004.en.html 2004]. The only problem is between Luxembourg (23 June) and Finland (June/July). The official site seems to have solved it by considering that Luxembourg has issued before Finland. As for other dates, everything is clear. [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 10:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
:::I'll just '''be bold''' and do it. What do you think? [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 09:24, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
::::Well done, but I'm against using the dates from the ECB, as they've been proven incorrect; if you know some German, check out the other sources, which have got more precise dates. Thanks for reordering them, though! &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::Ok, but could you provide sources for dates that are not from the ecb? [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 11:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::As I've stated, http://www.zwei-euro.com/, the German source given at the end of the article. Would you prefer it if I referenced the dates directly with <nowiki><ref></nowiki>s? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I think it may be better. Give a try with one date. [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 06:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::Done for all of 'em. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:39, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you. [[User:Cedar-Guardian|CG]] 07:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
::::::::::Gladly. <tt>:)</tt> &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 
== Reversal of sides in Germany 2006 Holstentor coin ==
I made an edit awhile back that reversed the directions (left and right) on the Holstentor coin. Please clearly read the text on the cited page (http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/oj/2006/c_033/c_03320060209en00050005.pdf), it says the HH (designers initials) are on the right side.
:Just because the OJ of the EU doesn't properly use heraldic descriptions doesn't mean we have to do it wrong, as well. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== Featured Article? ==
 
Just wondering, should this be a feature list, rather than a featured article? [[User:Todd661|Todd661]] 11:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
:This was discussed extensively in the FA nomination -- no, it should not. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 18:17, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
 
== Italics in subheadings ==
 
I've changed subheading <nowiki>===German ''Bundesländer'' series===</nowiki> to <nowiki>===German Bundesländer series===</nowiki> because <nowiki>[[€2 commemorative coins#German ''Bundesländer'' series]]</nowiki> was not being recognised as a wikilink. Is this a MediaWiki bug? [[User:Jnestorius|jnestorius]]<sup>([[User talk:Jnestorius|talk]])</sup> 21:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
:Most likely, yes. Could you file it as a bug with bugzilla, please? &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
::After further study I think [[bugzilla:05019]] already covers it. [[User:Jnestorius|jnestorius]]<sup>([[User talk:Jnestorius|talk]])</sup> 14:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 
== Comment ==
 
Mh. I'd personally really prefer to leave the info out of the table until the Official Journal of the European Union actually mentions the coin, but I do realise that this would mean that we'd be out-of-date for a little while longer (don't ask me why they take so long this time, though). &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Magdeburg Cathedral ==
 
[[User:Nightstallion|Nightstallion]] I don't understand why you have a problem with the name Magdeburg Cathedral...??
"Cathedral of Magdeburg" may very well be the title of an image or even an article.. BUT that still doesn't make it correct usage.
 
As an example: we don't use "Abbey of Westminster" or "Cathedral of Durham" as the names of the those places.
I'm afraid you are confusing "of" with the German usage of "von", so I have once again changed the reference in the article. By the way, in the same article the Kölner Dom is noted as "Cologne Cathedral" and not "Cathedral of Cologne" ... shame really as it might have smelt quite nice :-)--[[User:IsarSteve|IsarSteve]] 20:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
:You know, it's really quite simple. If the correct idiomatic name in English is "Magdeburg Cathedral", then the article '''should be at that ___location'''. If it's at [[Cathedral of Magdeburg]], then you are either wrong, or the article should be moved, I don't care which. And please, be so kind not to lecture me on English, I reckon my English is no worse than yours. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 15:55, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
:: it's really not worth the bother of replying..BUT If you want to make the article and yourself look childish, then carry on using "Cathedral of Magdeburg". My last word on the subject. As I previously mentioned, if this whole thing is just made up by me, why then isn't Cologne Cathedral called Cathedral of Cologne. --[[User:IsarSteve|IsarSteve]] 21:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
::: You're not really listening, are you? My point is, if you're right, then [[Cathedral of Magdeburg]] is not at its correct ___location and should be moved to [[Magdeburg Cathedral]]; I ventured that you should be the one to do this, as you claim that this is the more idiomatic form. That's all I was saying. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 14:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:: Of course I'm listening and if you checked out [[talk:Cathedral of Magdeburg]] then you would see that I've taken steps to change the situation!! --[[User:IsarSteve|IsarSteve]] 14:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I just saw that recently; sorry for doing you wrong, it's okay then, we'll discuss this there. <tt>:)</tt> &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Contradiction with [[Finnish euro coins]] ==
 
The issued dates. I didn't make any changes to the dates. --[[User:Chochopk|ChoChoPK]] (球球PK) ([[User talk:Chochopk|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Chochopk|contrib]]) 05:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot, fixed it. &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Article update ==
 
Upon the suggestion of Nightstallion, I have updated the release dates for many of the coins. Also, there is now some new information regarding the German commemorative coins in the Bundeländer Series for 2008 and 2009.
 
There is a question about three release dates which I have brought to Nightstallion's attention on his talk page.
 
[[User:Theeuro|Theeuro]] 08:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Belgium Treaty of Rome Inscription ==
 
The original entry was this:
 
{{lang|la|PACTVM ROMANVM QVINQVAGENARIVM}}'', ''{{lang|la|EUROP<sub>E</sub><sup>A</sup>}}'', ''{{lang|fr|BELGIQUE}}–{{lang|nl|BELGIE}}–{{lang|de|BELGIEN}}''
 
 
{{WikiProject Montana|class=start}}
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It was changed to this:
 
2007]]</center>[[Image:2_Euro_coin_AE.png|500px]], ''{{lang|fr|BELGIQUE}}–{{lang|nl|BELGIE}}–{{lang|de|BELGIEN}}''
 
 
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The image in nature and scope disrupts the conventions of the article, so I changed it to this:
 
''{{lang|la|PACTVM ROMANVM QVINQVAGENARIVM}}'', ''{{lang|la|EUROP&AElig;}}
 
 
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I think this is more to the original intent and 'spirit' of the design inscription.
 
If there is any way to re-create the A over the E in such a way which excludes an image, but incorporates the Latin language intent with reagrd to the AE ligature.
 
Until then, I'm inclined to leave the original entry as is because it is the closest way to represent the actual inscription.
 
Any thoughts?
 
—[[User:Theeuro|Theeuro]] 21:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:I've reverted it back to my version for the reasons given above; I'd like to clarify that it's not meant to be Latin, it's meant to show the French, Dutch and German word for "Europe", which just happen to be "Europe", "Europa" and "Europa". &mdash;[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightst</span>]]<font color="green">[[User:Nightstallion/esperanza|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">a</span>]]</font>[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">llion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 13:06, 10 April 2007 (UTC)