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* [[Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973]]
==Date articles==
* [[Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994]]
I've noticed that {{User|Pcb21}} has started creating a series about specific dates: [[January 1, 2005]], [[January 2, 2005]], [[January 3, 2005]], and on up to (so far) <s>[[January 28, 2005]]</s> [[February 7, 2005]].
* [http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1994/Ukpga_19940039_en_1.htm Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994]
 
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Is this kosher? Isn't this too granular a level of detail? --[[User:Calton|Calton]] | [[User talk:Calton|Talk]] 00:10, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 
= [[Aberdeen South (UK Parliament constituency)]] =
:Faaar too granular. Almost no single day is worth its own encyclopedia article. We don't even have on on September 11, 2001 - only the attacks that occurred that day. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] 00:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 
'''Aberdeen South''' is a [[burgh constituency]] of the [[United Kingdom House of Commons|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]], and it elects one [[Member of Parliament|Member of Parliament (MP)]] by the [[first past the post]] system of election. It was first used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 1885|1985 general election]], but has undergone various boundary changes since that date.
:*Bad idea. That's why we've got articles on [[January 1]] and [[2005]]. There's no need to break it up any further. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 09:39, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
There is also an [[Aberdeen South (Scottish Parliament constituency)|Aberdeen South Holyrood constituency]], a constituency of the [[Scottish Parliament]]<ref>The boundaries of Holyrood constituencies remain as when the constituencies were created in 1999<br>''Holyrood'' referes to the fact that the [[Scottish Parliament Building]] is in the [[Holyrood, Edinburgh|Holyrood]] area of [[Edinburgh]]<br> See also ''[[Scottish Parliament constituencies and regions]]''</ref>, created in 1999 with the boundaries of the Westminster constituency of at that time.
::What is it with dates and Wikipedia? Has Wikipedia stumbled on a thirst for knowledge about dates that has been unsatisfied in other encyclopedias? Or perhaps, as I think, dates are massively overlinked in Wikipedia. Sigh. [[User:Bobblewik|Bobblewik]] 13:36, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
== Boundaries ==
::: Actually, in the long term, cataloging individual dates could be a very useful use of Wikipedia. In some ways, the massive hypertext data of Wikipedia enables a better cataloging of the events of an individual day than ever before. However, currently we can only search it by year and day only, not the two combined. Wikipedia should eventually be considered a resource for social science data mining. Combined with semantic tags, maybe we could discover for example whether people are more or less likely to commit suicide on days with bad news or disasters. Or whether different periods of the year are more likely to be associated with different types of historical incidents. Don't cut Wikipedia short. [[User:Tfine80|Tfine80]] 22:01, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 
=== Current ===
::::I don't believe that Wikipedia editors are all linking dates to support social science. It is almost certainly because of a popular misconception of how date preferences work.
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|align="center"| '''[[Council areas of Scotland|Council areas]]<br> grouped by the Fifth Review'''
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|align="center"| '''[[Aberdeen City]] and [[Aberdeenshire]]
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As redifined by the Fifth Review of the [[Boundary Commission for Scotland]], and subsequently first used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 2005|2005 general election]],<ref>''[http://www.bcomm-scotland.gov.uk/ Boundary Commission for Scotland website]''<br> See also ''[[List of UK Parliamentary constituencies in Scotland]]''</ref> Aberdeen South is entirely within the [[Aberdeen City council area]] and one of five constituencies covering that [[Council areas of Scotland|council area]] and the [[Aberdeenshire council area]].
::::I cannot believe that the following examples of multiple date linking are for the benefits of social science: [[Wikipedia:Offline_reports/This_page_links_many_times_to_the_same_article]]. [[User:Bobblewik|Bobblewik]] 17:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 
To the south and west of Aberdeen South there is [[West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine (UK Parliament constituency)|West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine]], which is entirely within the Aberdeenshire area. To the north there is [[Aberdeen North (UK Parliament constituency)|Aberdeen North]] which, like Aberdeen South is entirely within the Aberdeen City area. Further north there is [[Gordon (UK Parliament constituency)|Gordon]], which covers part of the Aberdeen City area and part of the Aberdeenshire area. To the north of Gordon there is [[Banff and Buchan (UK Parliament constituency)|Banff and Buchan]] which, like West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine, is entirely within the Aberdeenshire area.
==Introducing a new template to counter most harmful vandals==
Take a look at one of the top responses to a [http://interviews.slashdot.org/interviews/05/09/26/0341216.shtml?tid=95&tid=1&tid=11 Wikipedia related topic on slashdot today] (mod down please):
 
=== Historic ===
"I love sneaking my name into articles. So far I've taught a famous guitarist how to play, worked for NASA during an Apollo mission, and got shot out of a cannon."
 
==== 1885 to 1918 ====
True or flamebait, I can't verify, but I have encountered this behavior previously. Most vandals are manifest, but some jerks alter digits, insert their names into the background, make up [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Battle of Blenau|battles]], etc. In one case I rolled back only after it went unnoticed for a year. These users are more than nuisances, to protect the integrity of info, we need to do more to identify and squash these ppl. I have created this template (<nowiki>{{hoaxer}}</nowiki>):
From 1832 to 1885 there was a single [[Aberdeen (UK Parliament constituency)|Aberdeen]] constituency. Prior to 1832, the [[burgh of Aberdeen]] had been represented as a component of the [[Aberdeen Burghs (UK Parliament constituency)|Aberdeen Burghs]] constituency.
 
When Aberdeen South was created by the [[Redistribution of Seats Act 1885]] and first used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 1885|1885 gnereal election]], so was Aberdeen North. Aberdeen South then consisted of the municipal wards of St Nicholas, Rosemount, Rubislaw and Ferryhill, and the 9th Parliamentary Polling District.{{fact}}
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The same boundaries were used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 1886|1886 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1892|1892 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1895|1895 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1900|1900 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1906|1906 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, January 1910|January 1910 general election]] and the [[United Kingdom general election, December 1910|December 1910 general election]].
 
==== 1918 to 1950 ====
This template is designed to spread information and make the vandals feel unwelcome. When you spot a hoaxer, please drop this template and add the userpage to your watchlist.
 
In 1918 constituency boundaries were redefined by the [[Representation of the People Act 1918]]. By then the [[City of Aberdeen]] had been created and, together with Aberdeen North, Aberdeen South became one of two constituencies covering the [[City status in the United Kingdom|city]] (which was one of four [[Counties of Scotland|counties of cities]] in Scotland) and entirely within the city. The new boudaries were first used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 1918|1918 general election]], and Aberdeen South then consisted of the wards of Ferryhill, Rosemount, Rubislaw, Ruthrieston and St Nicholas.<ref name="Graig">''[[Boundaries of Parliamentary Constituencies 1885-1972]]'' (ISBN 0-900178-09-4), F. W. S. Craig 1972</ref>
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lotsofissues lots of issues] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lotsofissues&action=edit&section=new leave me a message] 12:51, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
:Looks like an engraved invitation for vandals or POV-warriors to stick this notice onto any user's page they have a confict with. &mdash;[[User:Wahoofive|Wahoofive]] ([[User talk:Wahoofive|talk]]) 15:16, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
::Then revert it if it seems to be false and let the 3RR solve things. ~~ '''[[User:Nickptar|N]]''' ([[User talk:Nickptar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Nickptar|c]]) 17:08, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 
The same boundaries were used in the [[United Kingdom general election, 1922|1922 general elecion]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1923|1923 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1924|1924 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1929|1929 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1931|1931 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1935|1935 general election]] and the [[United Kingdom general election, 1945|1945 general election]].
: How does it help in improving quality of Wikipedia articles? [[User:Pavel Vozenilek|Pavel Vozenilek]] 00:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 
==== 1950 to 1983 ====
::Vandals who drop hard to detect fabrications exist on Wikipedia. Their damage will not be spotted in a short time. Once noticed and reverted, we do not want the cycle of vandalism and slow detection to play itself out again. This template is useful for infomration sharing. By quickly spotting these vandals, the damage they do to content will be minimalized. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lotsofissues lots of issues] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lotsofissues&action=edit&section=new leave me a message] 02:52, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
:::Yes, but if someone is slicky enough to disturb Wikipedia with "subtle attacks", then this person could simply remove the template from the page, and keep removing it again, and again, and again. Ultimately, the only way this could be guaranteed to work is if the userpage is protected after insertion of the template. And to prevent misuse, as Wahoofive suggested it could happen, it should not be taken seriously when found if the page it's on is not protected (Admins would see the "unprotect" tab, whereas regular users would see the dreaded "view source" tab) &mdash; instructions to as much would have to be included in the template, of course. Huge problem: this would mean that only Admins would be able to enforce the template properly, which means a lot of transfered work, and many, many more posts on the Administrators' Noticeboard. [[User:Redux|Redux]] 03:06, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
::::Everytime this template is dropped, the user page must also be watchlisted. The category acts as an upper layer monitor. All very simple solutions, there is no management issue. The suggestion of any possible problems (minimal) must be weighted against benefits. Do you want a constant vandal to degrade entries without notice for months? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lotsofissues lots of issues] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lotsofissues&action=edit&section=new leave me a message] 12:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
::::: I think this will not work as proposed, but would work far better if there were a way to indicate the particular hoax edit(s) in question. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 06:55, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
::::::Go whack some of [[Willy on Wheels]] thousand or so users with this. [[User:Davidizer13|Davidizer13]] 16:33, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
For the [[United Kingdom general election, 1950|1950 general election]] boudaries were redefined again, by the [[House of Commons (Redistribution of Seats) Act 1949]]. A new list of wards defined Aberdeen South - Ferryhill, Holburn, Rosemount, Rubislaw, Ruthrieston and Torry<ref name="Graig"/> - but the City of Aberdeen remained a two-constituency city, divided between Aberdeen South and Aberdeen North, with both constituencies entirely within the city.
== Did not like founder's remark about Libertarian Party members ==
 
The constituency consisted of the same wards for the [[United Kingdom general election, 1951|1951 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1955|1955 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1959|1959 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1964|1964 general election]], [[United Kingdom general election, 1966|1966 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1970|1970 general election]] and the [[United Kingdom general election, 1974|1974 general election]]. However, during this period, there may have been changes to ward boundaries leading to changes to constituency boundaries.
Hello, my name is David Greene. I am not yet registered on this site, but will likely register today.
 
In 1975, throughout Scotland, under the [[Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973]], counties were abolished, and the City of Aberdeen was enlarged to included areas formerly within the [[county of Aberdeen]] and the [[county of Kincardine]]. Also, the city became a district within the [[Grampian region]]. The enlarged city included areas covered by the constituencies of [[West Aberdeenshire (UK Parliament constituency)|West Aberdeenshire]] and [[North Angus and Mearns (UK Parliament constituency)|North Angus and Mearns]].
This morning I watched your founder on C-SPAN. He was interviewed by the founder and head of C-SPAN, Brian Lamb, for one hour.
 
The [[United Kingdom general election, 1979|1979 general election]] was held before a review of constituency boundaries took account of new local government boundaries.
I was quite favorably impressed by the man (your founder). And the interview cast Wikipedia in an excellent light, and I believe justly so.
 
==== 1983 to 1997 ====
During the interview, when pressed by Brian Lamb for his political opinions, he described members of the Libertarian Party as "lunatics."
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The [[United Kingdom general election, 1983|1983 general election]], the [[United Kingdom general election, 1987|1987 general election]] and the [[United Kingdom general election, 19792|1992 general election]] tokk place during this period.
I am a former member and official of the Libertarian Party, and I know and knew many people active in the party. I disagree with your founder's remark, and feel that many party members are brilliant.
 
In 1996, under the [[Local Government etc (Scotland) Act 1994]], local government regions and districts were abolished and the city became one of 32 [[unitary council area|unitary]] [[council areas of Scotland]].
I appreciate the fact that your founder is a highly intelligent and friendly person, and I also appreciate the fact that he was put on the spot by Brian Lamb (as is Mr. Lamb's job). Still I am a bit stunned that he would make such an impolitic, and to my mind, incorrect remark.
 
==== 1997 to 2005 ====
:You will find that there are editors of all political stripes here on Wikipedia. Jimbo Wales was pressed for his personal opinion; it wasn't meant to reflect a Wikipedia policy. Rest assured that Wikipedia has no official stance with respect to any political party.
:If you would like to discuss Jimbo's personal political opinions, you would be best to approach him by email or through his [[User talk:Jimbo Wales|talk page]]. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 17:43, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 
As redefined for the [[United Kingdom general election, 1997|1997 general election]] Aberdeen South was one of three constituencies covering and entirely within the Aberdeen City area, the other two being Aberdeen North and [[Aberdeen Central (UK Parliament constituency)|Aberdeen Central]]. Aberdeen South shared boundaries with both of the other two constituencies.
::Hi David. I'd like to welcome you to Wikipedia, and to second Ten's sentiments. Many people in the Wikipedia community are quite sympathetic to libertarian perspectives. To provide just one recent example, on September 9th, [[Anarcho-capitalism]] was the featured article of the day. And although Wales did use the word "lunatics" in [http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1042 the interview], he immediately followed up with "Freedom, liberty, basically individual rights, that idea of dealing with other people in a matter that is not initiating force against them is critical to me." We're always glad to have new contributors, and I hope you don't let that interview discourage you from getting an account and helping us to build something beautiful here. --[[User:Arcadian|Arcadian]] 18:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
 
The same boundaries were used for the [[United Kingdom general election, 2001|2001 general election]].
And hell, I'm a [former] officer of a county LP in North Carolina (hence the former), and we're pretty much insane. :D --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] 15:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
== Notes and references ==
Libertarians are lunatics in much the same way that Einstien was considered a lunatic in his time. Society just isnt ready for libertarians yet, some dont even know what views libertarians have yet still consider them crazy. There is too much societal brainwashing for people to understand these things. Although, I did see a guy on the Daily show with Jon Stewart who claimed to be libertarian and was giving out toy guns to little inner city children to protest a toy gun ban. Might have given libertarians a bad name? ''Note: I hesitate to label myself or my veiws, but most consider them libertarian.'' --[[User:AGruntsJaggon|AGruntsJaggon]] 10:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
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:Although this is probably not the place to hold a real debate over this... The world's political graveyards are full to the bursting with movements that said the same. --[[User:Aquillion|Aquillion]] 10:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 
= Re South Wales regions =
==A horrific thought==
Something that has occurred to me from time to time when editing articles: has anyone every considered what would happen to Wikipedia if Jimbo turned evil? [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 16:44, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:What, even more evil? --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 19:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
* [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)]]
: Yeah, like really evil. "I don't care about Wikipedia anymore, it's a piece of crap" evil. What would happen? [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 19:25, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
::That's not very evil. The Wikimedia Foundation would still go on, and even if, in his hypothetically developing evil ways, he managed to shut that down, everything's still GFDL. Wikimedia doesn't have a very large budget anyway; if everyone on the board just went evil, the whole thing could be recreated again. So, as long as there is some remnant of sugary goodness left in this world, the free encyclopedia will abide.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 19:40, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
'''South Wales East''' is an electoral region of the [[National Assembly for Wales]], consisting of eight [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituencies]]. The electoral region was first used in 1999, when the Assembly for Wales was created.
::: The Wikimedia Foundation owns the Wikipedia servers? And it can act independently of Jimbo's wishes (evil or otherwise)? [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 19:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
Each constituency elects one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] electoral system, and the region as a whole elects four additional or top-up Assembly Members, to create a degree of [[proportional representation]]. The additional member seats are allocated from [[Closed list|closed lists]] by the [[d'Hondt method]], with constituency results being taken into account in the allocation.
::::If I recall correctly, Jimbo plus his employees have a 3:2 majority on the board, however I think he promised to always vote with the two community representitives as long as they were agreed. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 19:58, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
The region covers the whole of the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]] and part of the preserved county of [[Mid Glamorgan]]. The rest of Mid Glamorgan is mostly within the [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]] electoral region and partly within the [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales West]] region.
:::::Yeah, but he's evil now, remember. Fortunatly, that is ''never'' going to happen. Wikipedia was his vision, he's not going to give up that. [[User:Gkhan|gkhan]] 22:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
::::::Yes, that was my point: If he becomes evil, he can go back on his word and have control of the board. But we still have the content, so I'm sure some other sucker would rise up to pay for all the expenses the fund drives don't cover. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 23:27, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
== Constituencies ==
:Forking Wikipedia is not a very easy task, as any of the developers will tell you. If the site were to go down tomorrow and never come up again, we'd have a fairly turbulent time getting it back up. &mdash; <span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;">[[User:Ambush Commander|Ambush Commander]]</span><sup style="font-family:serif;">([[User talk:Ambush Commander|Talk]])</sup> 21:01, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
The nine constituencies have the names and boundaries of constituencies of the [[House of Commons (UK)|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]] ([[Palace of Westminster|Westminster]]):
:: Scary to think that one person's weirdness or flakiness or emotional burnup could bring this entire enterprise crashing to a halt. Let us all pray for Jimbo's continued goodness and mental equilibrium. [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 21:05, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:::Please, if the fact that their CEO/Board of directors is/are the quintessence of evil meant that an enterprise would cease to exist then [[Fox Network|FOX]] would not be around, or [[JP Morgan]], or [[Altria Group|Philip Morris]], or... ;) -- just kidding. Or am I?? [[User:Redux|Redux]] 02:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
 
{| class="wikitable"
::::Tim and Michael have a free will, even if they are Bomis partners. There's no guarantee that they would vote with Jimbo if Jimbo went crazy. The main risk is if a majority of the board are able to benefit financially by transferring assets (such as ___domain names) from Wikimedia to a for-profit corporation. I'm not sure if that would be legal, but rumour has it that it is. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 05:29, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
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! Constituency
! Preserved counties
|-
| [[Blaenau Gwent (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Blaenau Gwent]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Caerphilly (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Caerphilly]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Islwyn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Islwyn]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney]]
| Partly [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]], partly [[Mid Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Monmouth (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Monmouth]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Newport East (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Newport East]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Newport West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Newport West]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|-
| [[Torfaen (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Torfaen]]
| Entirely within [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]
|}
 
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:I thought this was already an established fact. See for example, [[:Image:Lirus img small.jpg]], and lets face it, most of the other examples at [[User:Jimbo Wales/Funny pictures]]. -- [[User:Solipsist|Solipsist]] 20:05, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
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* [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)]]
== Gigantic Title ==
 
I'm not criticizing the encyclopedic quality of this stub, but the length of the title. Show me the guy who is going to type ''this'' into the search box.
 
'''South Wales Central''' is an electoral region of the [[National Assembly for Wales]], consisting of eight [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituencies]]. The electoral region was first used in the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|1999 Welsh Assembly election]], when the Assembly for Wales was created.
[[On the Tendency of Species to form Varieties; and on the Perpetuation of Varieties and Species by Natural Means of Selection]]
 
Each constituency elects one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] electoral system, and the region as a whole elects four additional or top-up Assembly Members, to create a degree of [[proportional representation]]. The additional member seats are allocated from [[Closed list|closed lists]] by the [[d'Hondt method]], with constituency results being taken into account in the allocation.
Surely there's a better name for it, or a better place for this info. [[User:Dbergan|David Bergan]] 19:11, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:You don't need to type it into the search box, the search will match partial titles too. And there's always links from other articles, and redirects. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 19:59, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
As created in 1999, the region covers much of the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Mid Glamorgan]] and much of the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]]. The rest of Mid Glamorgan is partly within the [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]] electoral region and partly within the [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales West]]. The rest of South Glamorgan is within the South Wales West electoral region.
::Search is a nonissue: my beef with it is that it combines two papers into one and uses a semicolon. Is there any reason why the papers had to be combined? &mdash; <span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:sans-serif;">[[User:Ambush Commander|Ambush Commander]]</span><sup style="font-family:serif;">([[User talk:Ambush Commander|Talk]])</sup> 21:19, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
:::Plus it could have been given a more descriptive title like [[Darwin's papers]] rather than give the actual publication titles.&mdash;[[User:Wahoofive|Wahoofive]] ([[User talk:Wahoofive|talk]]) 23:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 
As created in 1999, the region covers the whole of the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[West Glamorgan]], part of the preserved county of [[Mid Glamorgan]] and part of the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]].
::::Presumably the papers were combined because that's how they were originally presented; the links given seem to suggest that Darwin's and Wallace's contributions were read as a single work. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 00:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Other parts of Mid Glamorgan are within the [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]] and [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]] electoral regions, and other parts of South Glamorgan are within the South Wales Central region.
:::::Nonetheless, Ambush Commander's and Wahoofive's points still stand. This should be moved, maybe to the title Wahoofive suggested, or something along those lines. Regards, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 02:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
For the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007|2007 Welsh Assembly election]], constituency boundaries will change, and so therefore will the boundaries of the region.
::::::Well, it's not just "Darwin's paper"; it's equally Wallace's paper. A more proper name would be [[Darwin—Wallace paper]] or [[Darwin—Wallace evolution paper]] or [[Darwin—Wallace 1858 paper]] or some variation thereof, and I've seen these forms being used on google. I'm not so sure it is too long though, as there really isn't a simple short form of the actual title available.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 02:59, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
The region will continue, however, to cover part of Mid Glamorgan and part of South Glamorgan, with the rest of Mid Glamorgan in the South Wales Central region and the rest of South Glamorgan partly in the
and the region will cover all of the preserved county of West Glamorgan and part of the preserved county of Mid Glamorgan. Other parts of Mid Glamorgan will be within the South Wales Central region and the South Wales West region.
 
The constituencies have the names and boundaries of constituencies of the [[House of Commons (UK)|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]] ([[Palace of Westminster|Westminster]]). For Westmister election purposes, however, there are no electoral regions, and constituency boundary changes will become effective for the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]].
==Former mayor of NYC cites Wikipedia==
The former mayor of New York City cites Wikipedia in this [http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0905/koch.php3] editorial. [[User:Wyss|Wyss]] 23:23, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
:And we're on the BBC again... check the list of definitions at [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4288038.stm]! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:51, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
 
==Kate's Edit Counter Down!==
 
'''South Wales Central''' is an electoral region of the [[National Assembly for Wales]], consisting of eight [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituencies]]. The electoral region was first used in 1999, when the Assembly for Wales was created.
Mayday Mayday Mayday!! Kate's Edit Counter is down!! Mayday Mayday Mayday!! [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 14:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
:It's been moved; now at http://kohl.wikimedia.org/~kate/cgi-bin/count_edits (same as before, without the ".cgi" suffix). -- [[user:Rick Block|Rick Block]] <small>([[user talk:Rick Block|talk]])</small> 14:27, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 
Each constituency elects one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] electoral system, and the region as a whole elects four additional or top-up Assembly Members, to create a degree of [[proportional representation]]. The additional member seats are allocated from [[Closed list|closed lists]] by the [[d'Hondt method]], with constituency results being taken into account in the allocation.
:: Mayday Mayday Mayday!! Thanks!! Mayday Mayday Mayday!! [[User:Babajobu|Babajobu]] 10:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 
The region covers much of the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Mid Glamorgan]] and much of the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]]. The rest of Mid Glamorgan is partly within the [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]] electoral region and partly within the [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales West]]. The rest of South Glamorgan is within the South Wales West electoral region.
:::A redirect would have been nice. :"D - [[User:RoyBoy|Roy]][[User talk:RoyBoy|'''Boy''']] <sup>[[User:RoyBoy/The 800 Club|800]]</sup> 19:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Constituencies ==
==Wiki hits counter?==
Just curious. Is there a way to find out how many times a particular page gets visited? I think it would be interesting to track daily article hits and come up with some sort of global pulse based on wikipedia similar to what the google guys do with the most popular search terms.
 
The nine constituencies have the names and boundaries of constituencies of the [[House of Commons (UK)|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]] ([[Palace of Westminster|Westminster]]):
Also interesting would be the same kind of daily log on edits. [[User:Dbergan|David Bergan]] 18:25, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
:A variety of statistics are available at [[Wikipedia:Statistics]], but not including daily edit logs (which, as far as I know, are not currently published anywhere). Also please see [[Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Can I add a page hit counter to a Wikipedia page?]]. -- [[user:Rick Block|Rick Block]] <small>([[user talk:Rick Block|talk]])</small> 18:43, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
 
{| class="wikitable"
::With a bit of work you can find out all the daily edits based on the [[Special:Recentchanges|recent changes]] page I would think. --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] 18:45, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
|-
! Constituency
! Preserved counties
|-
| [[Cardiff Central (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cardiff Central]]
| Entirely within [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Cardiff North (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cardiff North]]
| Entirely within [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Cardiff South and Penarth (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cardiff South and Penarth]]
| Entirely within [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Cardiff West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cardiff West]]
| Entirely within [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Cynon Valley (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cynon Valley]]
| Entirely within [[Mid Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Pontypridd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Pontypridd]]
| Partly [[Mid Glamorgan]], partly [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Rhondda (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Rhondda]]
| Entirely within [[Mid Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Vale of Glamorgan (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Glamorgan]]
| Partly [[Mid Glamorgan]], partly [[South Glamorgan]]
|}
 
=== 1934From $100,000 bills2007 ===
 
:What about them? (Other than it must be really hard to get change for one...) [[User:Dtobias|*Dan T.*]] 16:44, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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:Would be worth $193,400,000. [[User:ESkog|ESkog]] 03:33, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
----
 
* [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)]]
Dtobias appears to be asking about the $100,000 bill of 1934 and ESkog appears to have misinterpreted it as meaning 1,934 bills with the number referring to a quantity of bills rather than a date. [[User:Georgia guy|Georgia guy]] 20:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::<small>I suspect ESkog was making a joke on purpose &mdash;[[User:Wahoofive|Wahoofive]] ([[User talk:Wahoofive|talk]]) 17:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)</small>
 
'''South Wales West''' is an electoral region of the [[National Assembly for Wales]], consisting of seven [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituencies]]. The electoral region was first used in the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|1999 Welsh Assembly election]], when the Assembly for Wales was created.
:I wasn't actually asking about anything, just responding to a cryptic message consisting of a header with no actual question, such as seems to be unfortunately rampant here and in the help desk. [[User:Dtobias|*Dan T.*]] 21:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 
Each constituency elects one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] electoral system, and the region as a whole elects four additional or top-up Assembly Members, to create a degree of [[proportional representation]]. The additional member seats are allocated from [[Closed list|closed lists]] by the [[d'Hondt method]], with constituency results being taken into account in the allocation.
::Maybe they were looking for [[Large denomination bills in U.S. currency]], it has of photo of the bill.--[[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] 17:23, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
As created in 1999, the region covers the whole of the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[West Glamorgan]], part of the preserved county of [[Mid Glamorgan]] and part of the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]].
== Publisher of Wikipedia? ==
Other parts of Mid Glamorgan are within the [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]] and [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]] electoral regions, and other parts of South Glamorgan are within the South Wales Central region.
For the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007|2007 Welsh Assembly election]], however, boundaries will change, and the region will cover all of the preserved county of West Glamorgan and part of the preserved county of Mid Glamorgan. Other parts of Mid Glamorgan will be within the South Wales Central region and the South Wales West region.
 
The constituencies have the names and boundaries of constituencies of the [[House of Commons (UK)|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]] ([[Palace of Westminster|Westminster]]). For Westmister election purposes, however, there are no electoral regions, and constituency boundary changes will become effective for the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]].
Who is the publisher for wikipedia and were can i find this information?
 
== Constituencies ==
:Have you read the [[Wikipedia]] article? Anyway the wikipedia.org sites are operated by the [[Wikimedia]] foundation so I guess you could say it is the publisher. Since all the content is licenced under the [[GNU Free Documentation License]] anyone can take content from the Wikipedia and publish it, and there are numerous "mirrors" of the Wikipedia, for example [http://www.answers.com/wikipedia answers.com], that are in no way afiliated with Wikimedia itself. --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] 19:40, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
 
=== 1999 to 2007 ===
: Clarifying the above: anyone can take content from the Wikipedia and publish it ''with appropriate acknowledgement''. Also, on the offchance that the real thrust of your question was "how do I cite this thing?" see [[Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia]]. -- [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] | [[User talk:Jmabel|Talk]] 04:27, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 
{| class="wikitable"
== man made cartilage for knee ==
|-
! Constituency
! Preserved counties
|-
| [[Aberavon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberavon]]
| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Bridgend (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Bridgend]]
| Partly [[Mid Glamorgan]], partly [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Gower (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Gower]]
|rowspan=2| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Neath (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Neath]]
|-
| [[Ogmore (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ogmore]]
| Partly [[Mid Glamorgan]], partly [[South Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Swansea East (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea East]]
|rowspan=2| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Swansea West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea West]]
|}
 
=== From 2007 ===
How can I find out any new situations about new man made cartilage for knee. ?
 
{| class="wikitable"
== Links with pipes ==
|-
Is there a term for Wikilinks that use a pipe to point at an article other than the linked text, [[User:A Man In Black|such as this link to my user page]]? I've been using "pipelink" for a while, to the confusion of other editors, as that's the term [[Everything2|E2]] uses for such links. - [[User:A Man In Black|A Man In <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold;"><font color="000000">Black</font></span>]] <small>([[User talk:A_Man_In_Black|conspire]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Man In Black|past ops]])</small> 13:58, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
! Constituency
:[[Wikipedia:How to edit a page#Links and URLs|How to edit a page]] refers to them as [[piped link]]s. --[[User:GraemeL|GraemeL]] [[User_talk:GraemeL|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 14:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
! Preserved counties
::Yes. I've seen "piped link" used much more commonly on Wikipedia.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 16:44, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
|-
| [[Aberavon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberavon]]
| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Bridgend (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Bridgend]]
| Entirely within [[Mid Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Gower (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Gower]]
|rowspan=2| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Neath (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Neath]]
|-
| [[Ogmore (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ogmore]]
| Entirely within [[Mid Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Swansea East (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea East]]
|rowspan=2| Entirely within [[West Glamorgan]]
|-
| [[Swansea West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea West]]
|}
 
= Re [[South Glamorgan constituencies]] =
== Nobel prize disaster ==
 
= Re [[Mid Glamorgan constituencies]] =
If my count is right, we only covered two of the eight laureates in physics, medicine and chemistry before the announcement (one of them one day before only). And I've seen statements, that there are no more articles to write, because everything is covered. Ouch. --[[User:Pjacobi|Pjacobi]] 16:26, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
*It's not a disaster exactly, but you're absolutely right that people consistently underestimate the size of the task we have here. Not only are we missing biographies of a number of important people, but, more important, we have virtually nothing on many very basic topics.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 01:00, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
::Here's a stat to ponder: No winner of the [[Nobel Prize in Literature]] has ever had a Wikipedia article prior to the announcement of the award. [[User:Hajor|&ndash;''Hajor'']] 01:25, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Er, there have only been three since we've been around, correct? That's not a great sample size. [[User:134.10.44.224|134.10.44.224]] 02:19, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Four, if [[Wikipedia]]'s right in saying the site went live in Jan 2001. But, essentially... yeah. Not a great sample. Anyone taking bets for 2005? [[User:Hajor|&ndash;''Hajor'']] 02:34, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::Everybody knows [[Bob Dylan]] will get it this year ;) -- [[User:Rune.welsh|Rune Welsh]] [[User_talk:Rune.welsh|&tau;&alpha;&lambda;&kappa;]] 21:41, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
::Wikipedia started out quite small; it's hard to believe that V.S. Naipaul wouldn't have had an article by now even without the Nobel Prize, but I'm not sure about the others. Things are looking up for 2005, though: our article gives a long list of blue links for 2005's top contenders.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] 02:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Westminster boundaries ==
:I've been going through some of the winners of the less well-known scientific awards, on the basis that those gaps should be filled first, and that they are the likely pool from which future Nobel laureates will be drawn. For example, I put together articles for [[James Till]] and [[Ernest McCulloch]] because I knew them from the [[Canadian Medical Hall of Fame]] list. Since I started those articles, they've gone on to win [[Albert Lasker Award for Clinical Medical Research|Lasker awards]] for their demonstration of the existence of [[stem cell]]s, and they're candidates for a future Nobel. Actually, the whole list of redlinks at the Lasker page would also be good articles to write....
:In an interesting contrast, I only see two redlinks in the entire list of [[Cy Young Award]] winners. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 00:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 
=== Current boundaries ===
[[:Category:Science and engineering prizes]] is a good starting point for this work. I've checked some entries in [[Hughes medal]] and [[Max Planck medal]]. Very sorry state of affair. Even [[Nikolai Bogolubov]] and [[Ludwig Faddejew]] are missing. --[[User:Pjacobi|Pjacobi]] 12:28, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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== Saint/St. Louis (ship) ==
|-
There are two identical articles :
! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Boundaries !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Notes
* [[SS St. Louis]]
|-
* [[MS Saint Louis]].
| 1. [[Bridgend (UK Parliament constituency)|Bridgend CC (Westminster)]] (part) ||rowspan=7| [[Image:MidGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesNumbered.png|left|Parliamentary constituencies in Mid Glamorgan]] ||rowspan=7| Bridgend, Ogmore and Pontypridd are also partly [[South Glamorgan constituencies]] <br> (three of seven constituencies covering the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]]) <br> The area of Ogmore within South Glamorgan is too small to show on the map<br>
My two questions are:<br />
Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney is also partly a [[Gwent constituencies|Gwent constituency]] <br> (one of eight constituencies covering the preserved county of [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]])
1. How are we supposed to wright, in general, regarding a (ship) name : "Saint" or "St." ?<br />
|-
2. What title is better and should stay : "MS" or "SS" ? (and of course "Saint" or "St." ?). The [[Wikipedians]] are welcpme to help editting it.<br />
| 2. [[Cynon Valley (UK Parliament constituency)|Cynon Valley CC (Westminster)]]
[[User:Danny-w|Danny-w]] 08:37, 6 October 2005 (UTC)<br />
|-
:Better to ask this qustion at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships]]. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 20:13, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
| 3. [[Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (UK Parliament constituency)|Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney CC (Westminster)]] (part)
|-
| 4. [[Ogmore (UK Parliament constituency)|Ogmore CC (Westminster)]] (most)
|-
| 5. [[Pontypridd (UK Parliament constituency)|Pontypridd CC (Westminster)]] (part)
|-
| 6. [[Rhondda (UK Parliament constituency)|Rhondda CC (Westminster)]]
|-
| 7. [[Vale of Glamorgan (UK Parliament constituency)|Vale of Glamorgan CC (Westminster)]] (part)
|}
 
=== New boundaries ===
==Free Millie Mcfiffin Campaign==
Please consider joining the [[Image talk:MillieMillerton.jpg|petition to free Millie Mcfiffin]]. -- [[User:Solipsist|Solipsist]] 19:21, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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== Suicide_Methods ==
|-
! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Boundaries !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Notes
|-
| 1. [[Bridgend (UK Parliament constituency)|Bridgend CC (Westminster)]] ||rowspan=6| [[Image:MidGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesProposed.png|left|Proposed Revision]] ||rowspan=6| Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney will be also partly a [[Gwent constituencies|Gwent constituency]] <br> (one of eight constituencies covering the preserved county of [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]])
|-
| 2. [[Cynon Valley (UK Parliament constituency)|Cynon Valley CC(Westminster)]]
|-
| 3. [[Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (UK Parliament constituency)|Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney CC(Westminster)]] (part)
|-
| 4. [[Ogmore (UK Parliament constituency)|Ogmore CC(Westminster)]]
|-
| 5. [[Pontypridd (UK Parliament constituency)|Pontypridd CC (Westminster)]]
|-
| 6. [[Rhondda (UK Parliament constituency)|Rhondda CC (Westminster)]]
|}
 
== Assembly boundaries ==
Can someone please remove the annoying text at the top of the page telling people not to commit suicide? Even if the author of the article wishes to express that sentiment, do so in a more thoughtful and less "in your face" way.
:{{sofixit}}. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:43, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Hey, it's a disclaimer, to keep people from suing Wikipedia out of its cash. Not that dead people can sue...[[User:Davidizer13|Davidizer13]] 16:36, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::The trouble with disclaimers is that they tend to ''increase'' liability somewhere else. If we place a notice on [[suicide methods]] saying "Don't do this, it's dangerous", but then fail to place a notice on some other article that describes something dangerous, Wikipedia is potentially exposed to a lawsuit. Wikipedia has its general disclaimers that are linked at the bottom of every page; we need no more and no less. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 17:26, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I see it as a moral issue. While it's unlikely, this disclaimer could encourage a suicidal person to get help. ~~ '''[[User:Nickptar|N]]''' ([[User talk:Nickptar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Nickptar|c]]) 19:02, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
=== How1999 to copy from PlanetMath2007 ===
 
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[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/PlanetMath Exchange]] is a project to exchange content between Wikipedia and [[PlanetMath]], which is a web-based encyclopaedia whose contents is available under the GFDL, much like Wikipedia. We do this by slapping {{tl|planetmath}} at any Wikipedia article which incorporate content copied from PlanetMath.
|-
! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Region !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency boundaries !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Notes
|-
| 1. [[Bridgend (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Bridgend CC (Assembly)]] (part) || [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South West West]] ||rowspan=7| [[Image:MidGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesNumbered.png|left|Parliamentary constituencies in Mid Glamorgan]] ||rowspan=7| Bridgend, Ogmore and Pontypridd are also partly [[South Glamorgan constituencies]] <br> (three of seven constituencies covering the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]] <br> The area of Ogmore within South Glamorgan is too small to show on the map <br> Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney is also partly a [[Gwent constituencies|Gwent constituency]] <br> (one of eight constituencies covering the preserved county of [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]]) <br>
The South Wales West region includes five other constituencies, <br> all entirely [[West Glamorgan constituencies]] <br>
The South Wales Central region also includes five other constituencies, <br> all entirely South Glamorgan constituencies <br>
The South Wales East region includes seven other constituencies, <br> all entirely Gwent constituencies
|-
| 2. [[Cynon Valley (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cynon Valley CC (Assembly)]] || [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]]
|-
| 3. [[Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney CC (Assembly)]] (part) || [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]]
|-
| 4. [[Ogmore (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ogmore CC (Assembly)]] (most) || [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South West West]]
|-
| 5. [[Pontypridd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Pontypridd CC (Assembly)]] (part) ||rowspan=3| [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]]
|-
| 6. [[Rhondda (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Rhondda CC (Assembly)]]
|-
| 7. [[Vale of Glamorgan (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Glamorgan CC (Assembly)]] (part)
|}
 
=== From 2007 ===
Recently, some doubts have arisen whether this procedure satisfies all legal requirements. For example, the GFDL seems to require that we list at least five (or all, if there are less of five) authors of any material which we copy from PlanetMath, which we do not do at the present. Please see [http://planetmath.org/?msgstyle=threaded&msgexpand=-1&msgorder=asc&from=objects&id=7385&op=getobj PlanetMath's ''embedding'' article] (specifically, the discussion under the article itself) for the issues raised by a user of PlanetMath.
 
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It seems that none of the participants on the PlanetMath Exchange project knows what to do about this, so we would be grateful for any help in understanding the legal requirements at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/PlanetMath Exchange#PMEX and GFDL]]. Probably, similar difficulties exist when copying material from other GFDL sources like the [[Free On-line Dictionary of Computing]] (FOLDOC).
|-
! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Region !! bgcolor="#ff9999"| Constituency boundaries
|-
| 1. [[Bridgend (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Bridgend CC (Assembly)]] || [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South West West]] ||rowspan=6| [[Image:MidGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesProposed.png|left|Proposed Revision]]
|-
| 2. [[Cynon Valley (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Cynon Valley CC (Assembly)]] || [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]]
|-
| 3. [[Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney CC (Assembly)]] (part) || [[South Wales East (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales East]]
|-
| 4. [[Ogmore (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ogmore CC (Assembly)]] || [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South West West]]
|-
| 5. [[Pontypridd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Pontypridd CC (Assembly)]] ||rowspan=3| [[South Wales Central (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales Central]]
|-
| 6. [[Rhondda (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Rhondda CC (Assembly)]]
|}
 
Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney will be, also, partly a [[Gwent constituencies|Gwent constituency]], and one of eight constituencies covering the preserved county of [[Gwent (county)|Gwent]].
Thanks in advance for your help, and please forgive me if I posted in the wrong place. -- [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] ([[User talk:Jitse Niesen|talk]]) 21:27, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
 
The South Wales West region will include five other constituencies, all entirely [[West Glamorgan constituencies]].<br>
== Message from the Microsoft Regulation Unit (MRU) ==
The South Wales Central region will include six other constituencies, all entirely [[South Glamorgan constituencies]].<br>
The South Wales East region will include seven other constituencies, all entirely [[Gwent constituencies]].
 
= Re [[West Glamorgan constituencies]] =
Please see this account's user page ([[User:MicrosoftRegulator]]). This explains exactly what Microsoft is regulating Wikipedia for.--[[User:MicrosoftRegulator|REGULATOR]] [[User talk:MicrosoftRegulator|(contact)]] 16:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
:I've blocked this account indefinitely as an account with multiple users (5, as they say on the user page). These accounts make it impossible to reliably attribute edits as the GFDL demands, and can be used for malicious purposes by multiple users at a time, although that has not been done with this account. -[[User:Splash|Splash]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Splash|talk]]</sup></small> 17:05, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
:Please. This user was obviously a troll. [[User:Zoe]]|[[User talk:Zoe|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:48, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
 
There are five '''constitencies''' covering '''West Glamorgan''', three [[County constituency|county constituencies (CCs)]] and two [[Borough constituency|borough constituencies]] of the [[House of Commons (UK)|House of Commons]] of the [[Parliament of the United Kingdom]] ([[Palace of Westminster|Westminster]]). The constituencies are used also, since the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|1999 Welsh Assembly election]], for elections to the [[National Assembly for Wales]].
== New article doesn't show up in search ==
Unless I type the exact title of my page, Wikipedia doesn't find it with search (neither does Google for that matter). Does it take a while before they're "officially" indexed? --[[User:Steerpike|Steerpike]] 13:21, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 
[[West Glamorgan]] is one of the eight [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved counties]] of [[Wales]].
:Google won't find it for a while, but I'm not sure how long it takes. What article is it, and what are you typing into the search box?--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 15:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
*Yes articles take a while to get indexed by Google. You can help speed up the process by [[Wikipedia:Wikification|wikifying]] the text and including links to the article from relevant articles. I don't know how or when the Wikipedia search engine is updated. Also note that Go will take you to an article by the exact name you typed. Search will do a full text search when available. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 21:51, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 
[[Boundary Commission for Wales]] proposals for new boundaries have been accepted,<ref>[http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2006/20061041.htm ''The Parliamentary Constituencies and Assembly Electoral Regions (Wales) Order 2006'', OPSI website]</ref> to become effective for the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]] and the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007]].
== Wikipedia on Nerd TV ==
Within West Glamorgan, however, there will be only a very minor change to the boundary between two constituencies, Gower and Neath.
Probablby can't be considered a major news source exactly, but "Nerd TV" (sponsored by PBS) recendly did an interview with [[Tim O'Reilly]], where he mentioned the Wikipedia (in passing near the end, but still). Those interested can [http://www.pbs.org/cringely/nerdtv/shows/ pop over] and download the interview (or any of the other ones). Heh I see it's also linked fom O'Reilly's article so I guess most interested parties have already seen it, but just in case. --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] 20:42, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
 
For Welsh Assembly elections, constituencies are grouped into [[Additional member system|additional member]] [[National Assembly for Wales constituencies and regions|electoral regions]], and changes to constituency boundaries will affect, also, regional boundaries.
== fn_ (footnote) template appears to be broken ==
All five South Glamorgan constituencies are within the South Wales West region, and will remain so when new boundaries become effective.
 
== Westminster boundaries ==
Something must have changed in the implementation of footnotes.
usually I can enter <nowiki>{{fn|21}}</nowiki> to get a footnote superscript.
 
At the footer, I can usually enter <nowiki>{{fnb|21}}</nowiki> or its alphanumeric equivalent <nowiki>{{anb|Alpha21}}</nowiki> and I get the corresponding internal hyperlink.
 
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Now it looks like its broken. [[User:Ancheta Wis|Ancheta Wis]] 10:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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:It's at least not universally broken. What page are you talking about? -- [[user:Rick Block|Rick Block]] <small>([[user talk:Rick Block|talk]])</small> 14:00, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
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| 1. [[Aberavon (UK Parliament constituency)|Aberavon CC (Westminster)]] ||rowspan=5| [[Image:WestGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesNumbered.png|left|Parliamentary constituencies in West Glamorgan]]
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| 2. [[Gower (UK Parliament constituency)|Gower CC (Westminster)]]
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| 3. [[Neath (UK Parliament constituency)|Neath CC]]
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| 4. [[Swansea East (UK Parliament constituency)|Swansea East BC (Westminster)]]
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| 5. [[Swansea West (UK Parliament constituency)|Swansea West BC (Westminster)]]
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The change to the boundary between Gower and Neath is too small to represent on a map at this scale.
== [[Terrorism Act 2000]] ==
 
== Assembly boundaries ==
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4327964.stm]
 
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The above link contains 15 more international terrorist organisations that have been added by the Home Secretary. If someone could gradually add them, I'll add some too. But I don't have time right now.
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| 1. [[Aberavon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberavon CC (Assembly)]] ||rowspan=5| [[South Wales West (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|South Wales West]] ||rowspan=5| [[Image:WestGlamorganParliamentaryConstituenciesNumbered.png|left|Parliamentary constituencies in West Glamorgan]]
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| 2. [[Gower (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Gower CC (Assembly)]]
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| 3. [[Neath (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Neath CC (Assembly)]]
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| 4. [[Swansea East (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea East BC (Assembly)]]
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| 5. [[Swansea West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Swansea West BC (Assembly)]]
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The change to the boundary between Gower and Neath is too small to represent on a map at this scale.
Thanks,--[[User:TheDoctor10|TheDoctor10]] ([[User talk:TheDoctor10|talk]]|[[Special:Emailuser/TheDoctor10|email]]) 17:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
The South Wales West region includes two other constituencies. Until the 2007 Welsh Assembly election, both of these are partly [[Mid Glamorgan constituencies]] and partly [[South Glamorgan constituencies]]. (One of these, however, is almost entirely within the preserved county of [[Mid Glamorgan]], with only a very small area in the preserved county of [[South Glamorgan]].) At the election, both will become entirely Mid Glamorgan constituencies.
== Need help watching an article ==
 
= Re [[Dyfed constituencies]] =
The article [[Skull and Bones]] is constantly subjected to vandalism, wacko conspiracy theories, and bad-faith edits. Apparently, I'm the only person watching the article as a recent bit of vandalism remained unreverted for 7 days. I'm tired of policing the article, and would love to take it off my watchlist, but I'm worried the article will go straight to hell. Can other diligent editors please place this page on your watchlists so that I can release it from my charge? Thank you! [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] 20:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
== Assembly boundaries ==
:Sure. Today's been boring anyway.--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 20:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
=== 1999 to 2007 ===
::Just wanted to chime in to say that I doubt I can watch it forever, but I'll do what I can. The current revision looks fine to me, though.--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 21:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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== How can I stop someone from posting on my talk page? ==
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| 1. [[Carmarthen East and Dinefwr (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Carmarthen East and Dinefwr CC (Assembly)]] ||rowspan=5| [[Mid and West Wales (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|Mid and West Wales]] || rowspan=5| [[Image:DyfedParliamentaryConstituenciesNumbered.png|left|Parliamentary constituencies in Dyfed]]
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| 2. [[Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire CC (Assembly)]]
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| 3. [[Ceredigion (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ceredigion CC (Assembly)]]
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| 4. [[Llanelli (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Llanelli CC (Assembly)]]
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| 5. [[Preseli Pembrokeshire (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Preseli Pembrokeshire CC (Assembly)]]
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The Mid and West Wales region includes, also, two [[List of Parliamentary constituencies in Powys|Powys constituencies]] and one [[List of Parliamentary constituencies in Gwynedd|Gwynedd constituency]].
Recently a bunch of people have been vandalizing [[Woburn Collegiate Institute]]. I got the page protected, and now they've started posting on my talk page with stuff about Naruto. Is there any way I can make them stop? I don't think they have been warned for the vandalism so I'm not sure if they can be blocked, but if they could that would be lovely because I'm sick of not being able to edit the article. <font style="color:#5A3696;">&hearts;[[User:Purplefeltangel|<font style="color:#5A3696;">purplefeltangel</font>]] <sup> ([[User talk:Purplefeltangel|<font style="color:#5A3696;">talk</font>]])</sup> &hearts; <sup>([[Special:Contributions/Purplefeltangel|<font style="color:#5A3696;">contribs</font>]])</sup></span> 21:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
=== From 2007 ===
:Complaints about disruptive user's are liable to get attention at [[WP:AN/I]]. Other than a block, I don't think that there is any way to stop people from posting on your talk page. You could also remove the comments from disruptive users.--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 21:54, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
 
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| 1. [[Carmarthen East and Dinefwr (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Carmarthen East and Dinefwr CC (Assembly)]] ||rowspan=5| [[Mid and West Wales (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)|Mid and West Wales]] || rowspan=5| [[Image:DyfedParliamentaryConstituenciesProposed.png|left|Proposed Revision]]
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| 2. [[Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire CC (Assembly)]]
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| 3. [[Ceredigion (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ceredigion CC (Assembly)]]
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| 4. [[Llanelli (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Llanelli CC (Assembly)]]
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| 5. [[Preseli Pembrokeshire (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Preseli Pembrokeshire CC (Assembly)]]
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The Mid and West Wales region will include, also, two [[List of Parliamentary constituencies in Powys|Powys constituencies]] and one [[List of Parliamentary constituencies in Gwynedd|Gwynedd constituency]].
 
== Notes and references ==
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= North Wales boundary changes =
 
'''Conwy''' is a [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituency]] of the [[National Assembly for Wales]]. It elects one [[Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] method of election. Also, however, it is one of nine constituencies in the [[North Wales (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|North Wales]] [[National Assembly for Wales constituencies and electoral regions|electoral region]], which elects four [[additional member system|additional members]], in addition to nine constituency members, to produce a degree of [[proportional representation]] for the region as a whole.
 
== Boundaries ==
 
The constituency was created for the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|first election to the Assembly]], in 1999, with the name and boundaries of the [[Conwy (UK Parliament constituency)|Conwy Westminster constituency]]. It is partly within the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Clwyd]] and partly within the preserved county of [[Gwynedd]].
 
The other eight constituencies of the region are [[Alyn and Deeside (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Alyn and Deeside]], [[Caernarfon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Caernarfon]], [[Clwyd South (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd South]], [[Clwyd West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd West]], [[Delyn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Delyn]], [[Meirionnydd Nant Conwy (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Meirionnydd Nant Conwy]], [[Vale of Clwyd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Clwyd]], [[Wrexham (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Wrexham]] and [[Ynys Môn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ynys Môn]].
 
The Conwy constituency will be replaced for the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007|2007 Assembly election]]. Its area will be partly within the [[Arfon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Arfon]] constituency, and partly within the [[Aberconwy (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberconwy]] constituency. Arfon will be entirely within the preserved county of Clwyd and Aberconwy will be entirely within the preserved county of Gwynedd. Both of these constituencies will be in the North Wales electoral region. For Westminster purposes, the new constituency boundaries will be come effective for the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]].
 
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'''Clwyd South''' is a [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituency]] of the [[National Assembly for Wales]]. It elects one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] method of election. Also, however, it is one of nine constituencies in the [[North Wales (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|North Wales]] [[National Assembly for Wales constituencies and electoral regions|electoral region]], which elects four [[additional member system|additional members]], in addition to nine constituency members, to produce a degree of [[proportional representation]] for the region as a whole.
 
== Boundaries ==
 
The constituency was created for the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|first election to the Assembly]], in 1999, with the name and boundaries of the [[Clwyd South (UK Parliament constituency)|Clwyd South Westminster constituency]]. It is mostly within the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Clwyd]] and partly within the preserved county of [[Powys]]. For the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007|2007 Assembly election]], it will become a constituency entirely within Clwyd. Part of its area will be transferred to the [[Montgomeryshire (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Montgomeryshire]] constituency, in Powys. Also, part of its area will be transferred to another Clwyd constituency, [[Clwyd West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd West]]. For Westminster purposes, the same boundary changes will become effective at the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]].
 
As created in 1999, the North Wales region includes the constituencies of [[Alyn and Deeside (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Alyn and Deeside]], [[Caernarfon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Caernarfon]], [[Clwyd West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd West]], Clwyd South, [[Conwy (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Conwy]], [[Delyn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Delyn]], [[Vale of Clwyd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Clwyd]], [[Wrexham (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Wrexham]] and [[Ynys Môn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ynys Môn]]. For the 2007 election the region will include [[Aberconwy (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberconwy]], [[Alyn and Deeside (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Alyn and Deeside]], [[Arfon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Arfon]], Clwyd South, [[Clwyd West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd West]], [[Delyn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Delyn]], [[Vale of Clwyd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Clwyd]], [[Wrexham (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Wrexham]] and [[Ynys Môn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ynys Môn]].
 
= Re [[Arfon (National Assembly for Wales constituency)]] =
 
* [[North Wales (National Assembly for Wales electoral region)]]
 
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'''Arfon''' will be a [[United Kingdom constituencies|constituency]] of the [[National Assembly for Wales]], created for the [[Welsh Assembly election, 2007|2007 Assembly election]]. It will elect one [[Assembly Member (Welsh Assembly)|Assembly Member]] by the [[first past the post]] method of election. Also, however, it wil be one of nine constituencies in the [[North Wales (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|North Wales]] [[National Assembly for Wales constituencies and electoral regions|electoral region]], which elects four [[additional member system|additional members]], in addition to nine constituency members, to produce a degree of [[proportional representation]] for the region as a whole.
 
== Boundaries ==
 
The constituency will have the boundaries of the [[Arfon (UK Parliament constituency)|Arfon Westminster constituency]], which will come into use for the [[54th United Kingdom general election|next United Kingdom general election]]. It will be a constituency entirely within the [[Preserved counties of Wales|preserved county]] of [[Gwynedd]].
 
The North Wales region was created for the [[Welsh Assembly election, 1999|first Assembly election]], in 1999. For the 2007 election, however, it will have new boundaries. It will include the constituencies of [[Aberconwy (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Aberconwy]], [[Alyn and Deeside (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Alyn and Deeside]], Arfon, [[Clwyd South (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd South]], [[Clwyd West (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Clwyd West]], [[Delyn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Delyn]], [[Vale of Clwyd (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Vale of Clwyd]], [[Wrexham (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Wrexham]] and [[Ynys Môn (National Assembly for Wales constituency)|Ynys Môn]].
 
==Voting==
 
In [[general election]]s for the National Assembly for Wales, each voter has two votes. The first vote may be used to vote for a candidate to become the Assembly Member for the voter's constituency, elected by the first past the post system. The second vote may be used to vote for a regional [[closed list|closed party list]] of candidates. Additional member seats are allocated from the lists by the [[d'Hondt method]], with constituency results being taken into account in the allocation.
 
<nowiki>[[Category:National Assembly for Wales|National Assembly for Wales]]
[[Category:Politics of Wales]]
[[Category:Elections in Wales]]</nowiki>
 
= Re [[Strathkelvin and Bearsden (Scottish Parliament constituency)]] =
 
{|Class=wikitable
|-
! Period
! Member of Parliament
! Party
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| [[Scottish Parliament election, 1999|1999]] to 2001
| [[Sam Galbraith]]
| [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour]]
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| [[Strathkelvin and Bearsden by-election, 2001|2001]] to 2003
| [[Brian Fitzpatrick (Scottish politician)|Brian Fitzpatrick]]
| [[Labour Party (UK)|Labour]]
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| [[Scottish Parliament election, 2003|3003]] to present
| [[Jean Turner]]
| [[Independent (politician)|Independent]]
|}
 
= Re [[Edinburgh South (UK Parliament constituency)]] =
 
= Re [[Politics of Edinburgh]] =
 
*[[Edinburgh Central (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Central]] constituency was abolished and split between the original [[Edinburgh North and Leith (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh North and Leith]] and [[Edinburgh West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh West]] constituencies and an entirely new constituency that was created - [[Edinburgh South West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh South West]].
*[[Edinburgh East and Musselburgh (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh East and Musselburgh]] took in parts of the [[Edinburgh North and Leith (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh North and Leith]] seat, with the town of [[Musselburgh]] being transferred into the [[East Lothian (UK Parliament constituency)|East Lothian]] constituency, with the new seat renamed [[Edinburgh East (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh East]].
*[[Edinburgh Pentlands (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Pentlands]] constituency was also divided between the new [[Edinburgh South West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh South West]] seat and the existing [[Edinburgh South (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh South]] seat.
*[[Edinburgh North and Leith (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh North and Leith]] was increased in size by taking in parts of the old [[Edinburgh Central (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Central]] constituency.
*[[Edinburgh South (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh South]] was expanded in size taking in elements of the old [[Edinburgh Pentlands (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Pentlands]] seat.
*[[Edinburgh South West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh South West]] was an entirely new constituency created for the [[United Kingdom general election, 2005|2005 UK general election]] taking in elements of the old [[Edinburgh Central (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Central]] seat, the original [[Edinburgh West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh West]] seat and [[Edinburgh Pentlands (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Pentlands]] seat.
*[[Edinburgh West (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh West]] was expanded to include some parts of the defunct [[Edinburgh Central (UK Parliament constituency)|Edinburgh Central]] seat.
 
= Re [[City status in the United Kingdom]] =
 
How does this look?:
:City status in the United Kingdom is usually associated with recognition, in the form of [[letters patent]], from the [[monarch]]. Also, at present, such cities are usually [[Local government in the United Kingdom|local government]] areas, as defined under legislation which has been created during and since the late 19th century.
 
= Re [[Buchan]] =
 
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'''Buchan''' is one six [[committee area]]s of [[Aberdeenshire Council]], [[Scotland]]. The committee areas were created by the council in 1996, when the [[Aberdeenshire]] [[Council areas of Scotland|unitary council area]] was created under the [[Local Government etc (Scotland) Act 1994]]. The council area was formed by merging three districts of the [[Grampian]] [[Regions and districts of Scotland|region]], [[Banff and Buchan]], [[Gordon, Scotland|Gordon]] and [[Kincardine and Deeside]].
 
There is also a town of Buchan and an [[Earl of Buchan|Earldom of Buchan]].
 
The modern administrative area has a population of 39,160 (2001 census) and an area of 547 km<sup><small>2</small></sup>. It contains the towns of [[Peterhead]] & [[Fraserburgh]] and is adjacent to the [[administrative areas]] of [[Banff and Buchan]] and [[Formartine]]. [[RAF Buchan]], a radar station, is in the area.
 
[[Peterhead]] is the largest town in Buchan and Aberdeenshire; the principal white fish landing port in Europe; and a major oil industry service centre. Equally important is the nearby gas terminal at [[St Fergus]].
 
Attempts are being made to counter the negative effects of several recent key company closures and economic threats. Inland, the area is dependent upon agriculture, and many villages have seen a decline in population and services. Issues affecting Banff and Buchan also apply here, as does the future of the oil and gas industry. Part of Buchan benefits from EU aid coverage. Opportunities exist through the Buchan Local Action Plan to safeguard and enhance the economic future of Peterhead and Buchan.
 
The [[Formartine and Buchan Way]] runs through Buchan.
 
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