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'''Flexibility''' is the popular term for the ability to easily [[bend]] an [[Object (physics)|object]] or the ability to adapt to different circumstances. However, in various professional fields, more precise terms are used.
There is a lot of speculation about flexibility . Where does it come from ? How does it reproduce ? What is it`s habitat and more. Flexibility is a small, almost microscopic animal that you can barely see, so don`t listen to of any of this bullshit. Whoever wrote this is no better than a graffiti-ist. Go and do a painting instead.
(I ''love'' a good chat!)
== chatting Physiology==
In the [[physiology]] of vertebrates, including humans, the measurement of the achievable distance between the flexed position and the extended position of a particular [[joint]] or muscle group is called its "flexibility", but this is more properly called its [[range of motion]] or range of movement. In this sense, the flexibility of a joint depends on many factors, particularly the length and looseness of the [[muscle]]s and [[ligament]]s due to normal human variation, and the shape of the [[bone]]s and [[cartilage]] that make up the joint.
Hi Erich, [[User:Kd4ttc]] recommended that I approach you for a group of doctors on Wikipedia. The "blue boxes" in all non-medical articles are making me jealous, and I think we might perhapse breathe some life (and/or sevoflurane) into the Wikiproject Medical Disorders etc. Please consult the temporary [[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|WikiDoc]] page and see what you think. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] 19:53, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Flexibility, or suppleness, is also a more generalized term used to compare the relative range of motion of all joints of an individual with a standard. The ability to achieve a full range of movements – to turn, stretch, twist and bend – without any stiffness, aching or suffering a spine or joint injury is defined as [http://www.healthy-body-healthy-mind.com/how-to-build-suppleness/ suppleness].
:Thanks for the invite to the doctors' mess. I hadn't known about it. [[User:Alteripse|Alteripse]] 15:07, 2 May 2004 (UTC) no worries! it's only new. hopefully it will catch on. Erich--[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 19:12, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
Medical conditions such as [[arthritis]] can decrease flexibility, while [[Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome]] can increase flexibility. Exercise increases the amount of flexibility in a joint, while decreasing the amount of resistance.
== XXXXX proposal ==
Those who practice [[gymnastics]] (especially [[rhythmic gymnastics]]), [[dance]], [[figure skating]], [[martial arts]], [[body toning]], [[yoga]], [[cheerleading]] and [[contortion]] rely on functional flexibility (increased range of motion with strength and control) to perform their actions.
Thanks for your fascinating proposal on the [[User_talk:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|doctors' mess]] page. I'd be quite interested to participate, as I'm presently looking for work and have some time on my hands—at least until August. [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<BR>[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 21:07, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
:Great! should we keep discussion in the mess? or should it be moved to it's own page? what should we call it? do you think four founding members is an appropriate target? (btw liked your mess photo complete with couch and TV!!)
The XXXXX proposal should perhaps move to its own subpage on your [[User:Erich_gasboy|userpage]]. Keeps the [[doctors' mess]] tidy :-). I can't think of a name yet... Four founders is fine; anything more will just lead to chaos.<BR>
:I'll move it to my main page until it gets a name then. did I read somewhere about avoiding subpages? --[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 10:43, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
===Benefits===
Suppleness or flexibility is an important part of a healthful life. Being supple means that you can reach up to take an item down from a bookshelf, for example, or bend down to tie your shoe laces, without feeling that your movements are restricted in any way. When you are young, you tend to take suppleness for granted. But as and when you start growing older, you need to spend a bit of time enhancing and maintaining your suppleness.
Anyone can start a daily routine of simple stretches at any age to restore or increase that flexibility to your muscles as well as joints. Some studies show that you are never too old to reverse the reduced level of suppleness that comes with the age. It really doesn’t matter as to how long it has been building up.
== babies ==
===How To Achieve Flexibility===
How's Myrtle going? --[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 22:33, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
Flexibility can be temporarily increased by regular [[stretching]] of the muscles either by performing specific exercises or by actively participating in activities that take the joints through their full range of movement and lengthens the muscles. Muscles are wrapped in connective tissues, which, rather like chewing gum, are resistant to being stretched when cold. For this specific reason, it is very important to attempt stretching exercises only when your muscles are warm. When stretching, a slight degree of tension should be felt in the muscle. Attempting to stretch too far may cause physical discomfort or even pain and can further result in an injury. So in order to maintain your suppleness, stretches need to be held for at least 10-40 seconds which gives connective tissues enough time to lengthen.
Stretching regularly can result in flexibility that is retained for as long as 48 hours, depending on the duration and depth (effective relaxation) of the stretch. This component is important to avoid injuries during leisure activities{{Fact|date=February 2007}}.
Myrtle => real name Hadassa (Myrtle is the translation). She's sleeping well and gaining more weight than me (thankfully).<BR>
:[[Lemon myrtle]] ([[Backhousia citriodora]]) is an aussie plant - so easier to remeber - my son Jacob is aka Chook around [[http://bedlamhouse.net our house]] --[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 10:43, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
===Relative flexibility===
== [[Mediawiki:Anaesthesia]] and [[Anaesthesia]] ==
Since muscles which go through grow in size but not in length, when one muscle grows through hypertrophy its opposite side muscle (the antagonist) will have to lengthen, and absolute flexibility is the term to describe a muscle's length, in and of itself, where relative flexibility is the flexibility of a joint, as compared to its antagonistic movement<ref>[http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=73 "Back to the Basics for the New Year"], by Paul Chek</ref>.
For example, the [[calf muscle]] extends the foot towards the [[ground]] ([[plantarflexion]]) and the [[anterior tibialis|shin muscle]] flexes the foot in the opposite direction ([[dorsiflexion]]).
Concerning your [[Mediawiki:Anaesthesia]] - do you intend to keep this as a sidebar, or will it be moving to the bottom of the page? [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<BR>[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 09:17, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
If a person's calf is [[tonic (physiology)|overly strong]] it will not be as flexible as the opposite shin muscle, and plantarflexion will be exhibit relatively inflexible as compared to dorsiflexion using the person's [[phasic (physiology)|weaker]], but more flexible shin muscle.
: dunno - i need to tidy it first then some peer review... down the side keeps it clear of the lovely medicine bars... but whatever the convention is really. --[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 10:43, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
==Systems theory==
In [[systems theory]], which has applications in diverse fields including biology, ecology, psychology, economics, and management, the flexibility of a [[adaptive system|system]] is related to its [[adaptation]] to a new environment or its [[resilience]] in recovering from a shock or disturbance.
One example is the attribute of [[Flexibility (engineering)|flexibility]] in engineering.'''''Italic text''
==References==
== Wellness and CAM==
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[[es:Flexibilidad]]
I see that you have found [[wellness]], he ... he. The CAM people might eventually take this article over, as it obviously is a CAM term.
[[nl:Flexibiliteit]]
In reference to your prior interest in working on [[User:Irismeister/Conventional medicine]], you are welcomed to start over again in a brand new article. I would suggest that you put the link to it in [[Philosophy of alternative medicine]]. And, for the text of it you could start by editing a temporary revert of [[User:Irismeister/Conventional medicine]] to an earlier version which you had mostly written. But, I would suggest that you pick a different article name.
If you think that the [[Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Alternative Medicine|Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine]] might be in competition with WikiDoc, you are right. WikiDoc was my first introduction to the concept of a project and was actually what inspired me to create my little project. The edit wars is what motivated me to do it only 2 weeks. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 20:21, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
:gedday - so whatever happened to IrisMeister?
:re competition... well you and I would disagree on most things, but from what I've seen you can do reasonable NPOV. You are more than welcome to write that "feedledumpaths (supported by feedledeepaths and cosmicgonadologists) believe that sticking your finger in your ear three times a day increases vitality"!! You won't find me arguing if thats what you think. If you say that getting more excercise, not smoking and eating a balanced diet with lots of fresh fruit and vegies is good for you... well I'll be right there beside you cheering you on!! But I'm hoping we can just spend our time doing good NPOV. all that fighting in [[User:Irismeister/Conventional medicine]] is just a waste of time and poisons one's spirit.
:your boxes are very pretty by the way! best wishes [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 20:37, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
::IrisMeister was recently banned, and is currently on 2 weeks medical leave. What ever that means, he did not say.
::Actually, I am into [[natural health]] and the psychosoical / mind-body interventions which are backed by science. Psychosoical interventions start with [[palliative care]] and go beyond. But, it is hard to even bring the topic up when so many editors think that [[cognitive behavior therapy]] and even hydrotherapy (which started with the ancient Roman spas in Europe) have nothing to do with CAM since alternative medicine is just another word for quackery. Ergo, another reason-for-being for my CAM project. I hate quacks probably more than do the science people.
::My accredited health website, was recently re-certified by that Swiss HONcode organization. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 21:01, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
::Hi John, I must say I had no objections to your [[natural health]] page. I agree with you that there is much psychosoical / mind-body intervention which are backed by science. I spend a lot of effort on the mind body stuff in my work... it's not good for people to worry - its not good for their immune function or their experience of pain - people ''benefit'' from reassurance and a calm atmosphere (as well as [[epidural anaesthesia| big needles]] and [[propofol|good drugs]]!
::It is good to hear you believe in [[science]].
:::Actually, I object to [[peer-review]]ed science. It is more of a [[labor union]] mentality than a [[science]] one, IMHO. I prefer a more direct approach to science, like the one [[NASA]] used to put a man on the moon. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 19:32, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
::Why spend so much time on the whacky stuff then? I agree it is too easy to be reactionary over the internet... if you ever get hassle from [[medical student]]s you should send our way so we can calm them down a bit for you. That's kinda why I'm in no rush to pick up on [[criticisms of modern medicine]] (although now i've put a red link here it may tempt me!)--[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 17:58, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
:::''Why spend so much time on the whacky stuf'' I am not. I am just pointing out that CAM covers a very broad area of stuff. Some, if not a lot, of it actually works! I am, also, tired of being attacked as a quack and totally unqualified to write about CAM. From my perspective, most of the mind-body interventions require a foundation in psychology rather than in the basic sciences. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 18:19, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
::::but [[psychology]] is a [[science]]. some of the cleverest sceintists i know are psychologists.--[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 18:25, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
:::::[[Psychology]] is known as a ''soft'' [[science]]. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 18:56, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
::::: I must say I don't find the soft/hard distinction particularly useful. Science is science. Just because you can't measure it easily doesn't mean its not important and doesn't mean you can't use the scientific method (pain comes to mind). Sometimes (often) scientist find themselves making decisions without enough scientific evidence and they wing it... but thats a completely different aspect... any way coming back to your original point ''most of the mind-body interventions require a foundation in psychology rather than in the basic sciences'' - I agree. so anyway... do you support the labelling of unscientific rubbish as such? --[[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 19:53, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
:::::''do you support the labelling of unscientific rubbish as such?'' The project currently has 5 standards of knowledge and that phrase is not one of them. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde]] 02:47, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
:::::pity. --[[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 04:42, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
== Hello/welcome ==
Hello Erich. I'd like to thank you for your excellent, fact-based edits to the medical articles, particularly [[cesarean section]] and the various articles on inhalation anesthtic agents. These areas needed the work of someone with the expertise that you have. Keep up the good work, and welcome to Wikipedia!
Best regards
[[User:UninvitedCompany|UninvitedCompany]] 15:55, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
awh shucks... thanks! i'm just hoping others will tidy my spelling and typo's... (which are a bit weak). There is now a bit of a group of us over at [[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|WikiDoc]]s. It'd be nice to make wikipedia a bit more welcoming for othe docs - I think most would rapidly loose patience with the ''apparent'' anarchy. If we can welcome them in a bit I'm hoping we can get more to stay around. [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich gasboy]] 16:15, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
== Gedday ==
Hi Erich. Thanks for your message on [[User talk:Diberri#gedday|my talk page]]; it's always nice to receive a compliment prefaced with a religious pejorative :-)
I kid. Thanks for the welcome message to join you folks in the [[User talk:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|doctor's mess]]. Though I'm not myself a physician, it's always helpful to be able to bounce ideas off of 'em.
Quick question: Your last addition to my talk page was the word ''oops'' and the corresponding edit history says ''sorry - won't meddle next time :-)''. What did you mean by this? I'm just curious... --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 02:21, May 8, 2004 (UTC)
(the oops was in reference to [[Template:Lymphatic system]]). I did spot your current status on your page... at your stage you're quite likely to have a better broad grasp of many of the basic sciences than most of us. Also us postgrads are drawn into our own silos and are interested in minutiae. So in many ways - IMnsHO - a med-student (or pre-medstudent) will make a better wikiauthor than us. Anyway, med-student's are welcome in any [[doctors' mess]] i've been to and with the quality of your work you'd be most welcome! [[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 04:36, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
== status of things ==
We're finally moving to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine]]. This includes the doctor's mess!<BR>
Your present "signature" is just a lowercase "e" - are you sure you like it that way?
:I know - just playing - may change to 'erich'... dunno...
I'm sorry for not responding sooner to your initiative on forming a more formally accredited doctor's group. Personally, I think this is not necessary on Wikipedia, but any future "Medical Wiki" (holding somewhere between a textbook and a user manual of medicine) might need such a structure. [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<BR>[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 12:28, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
:Thanks for that, apreciate the feedback. The group, with your guidance, is making solid progress and I think I agree that formalisation wouldn't add much value at this stage. But I'll keep the proposal signposted in the mess... maybe in a year (or sooner) it'll be needed and get picked up by the group (?) --[[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 21:25, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
Sorry to have removed the [[doctors' mess]]. I discovered that quite a few people were reading it! I'm not sure if I want it as a subpage of my [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|talk page]]. Would you be in favour of a subpage to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine|WikiProject]]? [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]]<BR>[[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 09:14, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine/Wikidoc]] sounds fine. Do you see the need too or am i just being separatist? --[[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 10:09, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
Separatist> Well, depends if you want a republic of keep Lizzie. Kidding aside, I love the "[[doctors' mess|mess]]" idea, but we have to make sure the conversation remains civil. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 10:22, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
== phage therapy ==
I saw you muttered a little on that. Phage therapy involves using bacteriophages as antibiotics. The science of this was largely done in Russia. The field holds promise as antibiotic resistance becomes more of a problem. Bacteriophages are very specific and have a remarkable safety profile. There was an article I heard about recently that seawater has an order of magnitude more bacteriophages than bacteria. Probably belongs as an article on it's own with pointers from ID and gene therapy. [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 02:10, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
I thought it might have been something like that... hence i didn't zap it. your placement proposal sounds perfect! [[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 02:17, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
:I took it of the main medicine page. Doesn't belong there. We never walk into a room and say: "Hello madam, I'm the [[phage therapy]] doctor!" [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 16:31, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
::mmm... might try that tonight for a lark ;-) [[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 21:28, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
== Vandalism ==
Well done on reverting that abusive vandal on [[obesity]]. Probably has a complex about his weight. Both [[User:Cecropia]] and [[User:Jfdwolff|me]] ended up blocking him, although Cecro was quicker... [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 16:31, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
==[[vasoconstrictor]]s==
Hi. I did the redirect on that that long ago because it didn't say anything extra that wasn't in the blood vessel article. Was waiting for someone to fill in more details when it would make sense as its own article - like I'm sure you will... that's what I was thinking. [[User:Alex.tan|Alex.tan]] 17:34, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
:ooh - I wasn't expecting you to see my note. I thought i was just talking to myself as usual. oh alright but Kosabamese's article said something. I'll link it vasconstriction. [[User:Erich gasboy|e]] 21:32, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to remember to say "moved from" instead of "from". I'm not sure what you mean by the post message question. Did you mean how do you get a link to post a new message? If so, it would be http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Erich_gasboy&action=edit§ion=new for this page, which is just adding <tt>&action=edit§ion=new</tt> to the end of the URL. It works on any page. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 21:57, May 17, 2004 (UTC)
Hello to Australia. Message for you at my talk page. [[User:Get-back-world-respect|Get-back-world-respect]] 12:46, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
== Mitral valve prolapse ==
Thanks for your comments on [[mitral valve prolapse|MVP]]! I've made some changes, and definitely welcome your comments. (Besides, who better than an [[anesthesiologist]] to critique an MVP article? :-) --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 19:57, May 18, 2004 (UTC)
== Village pump ==
I'm having trouble finding out the exact disagreement between you and Ji'''ang'''. Could you enlighten me? Also, messages on the village pump are read by a lot of Wikipedia oldtimers, so I wonder what kind of reaction you'll be getting (possibly not the one you were anticipating!) [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:23, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
:well what ever reaction I get i'm sure one way or another it will terminate my dealling with Dr J. If they all tell me I'm an idiot thats fine. at the momment I feel like I'm one on one with an arrogant little bully-boy who does not read what I say... so i'm not making progress. If others agree with him at least I can let it go. The last paragrah on the [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Clinical medicine|project talk page]] explains all. I'm sure it wont be on the VP for very long. His latest annoyance was to try and tell me where I can and cannot discuss topics - extremely irritating. I'll purge it myslelf VP once its resolved. [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich]] 23:34, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
No, I don't get the actual topic of the discussion. Was it the definition of [[doctor]], or is there something bigger between the two of you? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:36, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
the annoying thing is that it is something less! but I refuse to be bullied by one person who does not have the patience to wait for consensus. anyway the point is:
::''I converted the doctor page to be like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Doctor_(disambiguation)&oldid=3638789 this], and moved the existing doctor page to [[doctor (title)]] as that is what it discussed. Jiang unilaterally reverted it.. despite others supporting my edit.''
silly really... :-| [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich]] 23:40, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
:I'm not sure there's much wrong with the present situation. You might like to comment on Ji'''ang''' 's style, though, as Finlay says in his reply to your VP message. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:45, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
Hello again, Erich
Wikipedia has an unusual culture. I want you to stay because of your uniquely valuable contributions, so I'm willing to help.
In general, the most effective way to deal with these sorts of matters is to go slowly. Generally it is most effective to wait a day or two, say what you want to do on the talk page, wait a few more days, and then do it. Particularly if there are a lot of people who agree with you, that will give them ample opportunity to add their voices to yours. If not, you won't risk creating the appearance of being arbitrary and capricious.
Nothing useful will come of listing this sort of stuff at the village pump or "requests for comment."
Sooner or later, the article will be right. Wikipedia timescale is measured in months, and articles change slowly. Don't get too worried about how the article looks today, think in terms of where it will be in a month.
Best wishes, [[User:UninvitedCompany|UninvitedCompany]] 23:58, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
Oh, and I'll add this anecdote. My father has a Ph.D. in a field unrelated to medicine. He was being treated at the [[Mayo Clinic]] at one time, and someone in the administration had noted on his chart that he was a doctor, and so the nurses and administration people all started referring to him as such. He was rather embarrassed by it since even his students don't do that, and finally asked them to remove the note on the chart... [[User:UninvitedCompany|UninvitedCompany]]
== Reverts at Arbitration by Mr. Natural Health ==
Did you notice Mr. Natural Health deleted much of the evidence you put into the request for arbitration page? [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 01:06, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
::He's a funny guy. I'm sure he'll argue that this was not his reponse... well he's going to cop a ban for a while isn't he. I think he needs a week to cool down than a be kept on a short leash. quite a bit of time has been wasted now... although i got a bit of a belly laugh about some [[health]] :-) edits [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich]] 03:27, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
== ".... no need to use an 11 letter word when a four letter word is at least as correct?" on [[Circulatory system]] ==
"Just" is a little ''chatty'' for an encyclopedia, but it means the same thing as "immediately" ..... :-) ... Never mind. <br>
Have a nice day. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 14:08, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
gedday. mmm you may be right but I'm not convinced. I personally loathe the use of long words when short ones are sufficent. More to the point, though, is that not all the changes are immediate but may take days to weeks - especially FO and ductus arteriosus closure. Maybe should read: "After birth...."
: Weeks ? I didn't realize that the post-natal changes take so long, but it makes sense to take so long if remodelling is involved, even though everything is so tiny in the baby's body.
: I was about to fix up the sentence as you suggested, but Diberri beat me to it... -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 22:36, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
So what's your thesis on? [[User:Erich gasboy|Erich]] 17:29, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: Oh, my thesis ? It's about boring cellular and molecular biology stuffs. All the keywords can be found on my User page (obviously I don't mean the opentasks ...) -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 22:36, 2004 Jun 9 (UTC)
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