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==Surname sort==

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The default sort is by squad number, but only 2 players are shown with a number, 20 have no number. This is unusual as no other squad list has more numberless unless the whole squad is numberless.

:[[User talk:MatthewFenton/Archive/Archive 1|My Archive.]]

So I went with the majority and sorted by surname. The club article has no squad numbers shown at all, so this sort method seems to make sense. &nbsp;<font face="verdana">[[User:Slumgum|slυмgυм]]<small>&nbsp;[[User talk:Slumgum|[&nbsp;←]][[Special:Contributions/Slumgum|→&nbsp;]]]</small></font> 17:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Jericho spoiler ==

Hi, Matthew. I notice that you've reverted the change I made to [[Template:Jerichonav]]. I made that change to remove a major plot spoiler from the template. May I ask why you reverted it? [[User:Pat Berry|Pat Berry]] 02:05, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:Matthew, I would appeciate it if you would reply here and not on my Talk page, so that interested parties can read the entire conversation in one place.

:You responded to my query with "We don't censor against possible 'spoilers'." I'm a bit baffled by that response. First of all, who is this "we" that you are speaking for? Second, Wikepedia pages ''do'' take steps to prevent revealing plot spoilers. That is why [[Template:spoiler]] exists.

:In view of the fact that the title "Mayor" is a huge plot spoiler for episode 11 of ''[[Jericho]]'', can you please explain why you believe that information ''must'' be displayed in the navigation template, which appears in ''every'' article related to the series? The information is already available -- marked with [[Template:spoiler]] warnings -- in the articles about the [[Gray Anderson|winner]] of the election and "[[Vox Populi (Jericho episode)|Vox Populi]]", the episode in which the election occurs. So I fail to see how it will be "censored" if it's not in the template. [[User:Pat Berry|Pat Berry]] 02:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

::[[Wikipedia:Content disclaimer]] / [[WP:CENSOR]] - We give due warning with {{tl|spoiler}} - but - anything can be considered spoiler, him being Mayor isn't some "we" should censor. <small><font face="Tahoma">'''thanks'''/[[User:MatthewFenton|Fenton, Matthew]] [[User talk:MatthewFenton|Lexic Dark]] [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|52278 Alpha 771]]</font></small> 02:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Please explain why the title "Mayor" needs to be in the template at all. None of the other character names are preceded by job titles. [[User:Pat Berry|Pat Berry]] 02:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:::: That is something only God knows, for some reason if you are Mayor/president or Sir etc. that always gets mentioned, however the "commoners" titles (Mr, Ms.) don't :-( - I wish I knew <small><font face="Tahoma">'''thanks'''/[[User:MatthewFenton|Fenton, Matthew]] [[User talk:MatthewFenton|Lexic Dark]] [[Special:Contributions/MatthewFenton|52278 Alpha 771]]</font></small> 02:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:::::Please explain why ''you'' believe the title must be included in [[Template:Jerichonav]]. You reverted my removal, so you must have a compelling reason for wanting it there. [[Appeal to tradition|Appeal to common practice]] is not a satisfactory answer. [[User:Pat Berry|Pat Berry]] 02:48, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:Matthew, I generally agree that we do not remove things simply for the sake of them being a spoiler ''alone'', but there things we can do within reason. For one, nav templates typically don't go out of their way to make linked text ''longer'' when it's not needed. It's pretty clear that someone went out of their way to include a very needless spoiler that doesn't aid in anything. That's pretty much trolling behavior and we can remove those kinds of things. Not only that, but nav templates usually are not considered article ''content''. No information is being removed from articles. -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 03:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

== Hey ==

You said: "By the power vested in me by the lords of Kobol I hereby revoke your "image ban" - on a serious note: you are not banned (see [[WP:BAN#Decision_to_ban]] - Yamla's "ban" doesn't meet the Banning policy)"

:This sort of statement is counterproductive. By encouraging a person to continue violating Wikipedia's image copyright and fair-use policies, you are encouraging a situation where a very productive and well-meaning contributor may have to be blocked indefinitely from editing. I was not asking him to cease contributing to any specific article or to the Wikipedia at large, only to stop uploading inappropriate images. I also have offered to review any image he wishes to upload should he prefer that approach. But given that virtually every single image he uploads violates Wikipedia policies, your statements were ill-advised. --[[User:Yamla|Yamla]] 03:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)