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While full of rhetoric, [http://www.grazhdanin.com/grazhdanin.shtml?Arkhiv/G2001/stat56 this magazine article (in Russian) by Kirill Aleksandrov] ponders various positive aspects of Vlasov biography and personality, trying to consider Vlasov from different angles than commonly done by the official Soviet POV (the latter POV coincides with the one presented in the today's version of the WP article). Might be an interesting source to start research towards a better NPOV article. Kirill Aleksandrov is a historian, and it seems that he summarizes some of his research results in the article. Could be that better search might dig up his actual historical research works along with substantiating references. Without that, I suggest not to modify the main article, as this issue is quite sensitive, esp. to the surviving World War II veterans that fought in the region. [[User:BACbKA|BACbKA]] 22:16, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
| Name = The Raconteurs
| Img = JackWhitebySteveHopson.jpg
| Img_capt = Jack White in concert with The Raconteurs at the [[Austin City Limits Music Festival]], 2006
| Background = group_or_band
| Origin = {{flagicon|United States}} [[United States]]
| Genre = [[Indie rock]]<br>[[Alternative rock]]<br>[[Blues Rock]]<br>[[Hard Rock]]
| Years_active = [[2005]]&ndash;present
| Label = [[Third Man Records]]<br />{{flagicon|UK}} [[XL Recordings]]<br />{{flagicon|USA}} [[V2 Records]]
| URL = [http://www.theraconteurs.com/ www.theraconteurs.com]
| Current_members = [[Brendan Benson]]<br />[[Patrick Keeler]]<br />[[Jack Lawrence (bassist)|Jack Lawrence]]<br />[[Jack White (musician)|Jack White]]
| Past_members =
}}
 
'''The Raconteurs''', also known as '''The Saboteurs''' in [[Australia]], are a [[Grammy Award|Grammy]]-nominated [[rock music|rock]] band, featuring four members previously known for other musical projects.
== Some questions for the editors... please ==
 
According to the current definition, The Raconteurs qualify as a rock-and-roll [[Supergroup (bands)|supergroup]], featuring the songwriting of [[Jack White (musician)|Jack White]] of [[The White Stripes]] and [[Brendan Benson]], who are both from [[Detroit, Michigan]]. In the band's own words, however, they are not a [[supergroup]], asserting that the term implies something pre-planned, whereas they are actually "a new band made up of old friends."<ref name=MTV2>JH (2006). [http://www.mtv.co.uk/mtv2/music/article.jhtml?articleId=75132981 "Jack White and chums drop an album"] MTV2.co.uk (accessed May 18, 2006)</ref>
First BACbKA the link you provided was dead. Sorry.
 
The Raconteurs are one of the few non-Irish bands to star in the popular web-cartoons of ''[[Eyebrowy.com]]''.[http://www.eyebrowy.com/animations/jackwhite1.htm]
 
==Members==
Now about this paragraph:
*[[Jack White (musician)|Jack White]] (of [[White Stripes]]) – [[vocals]], [[guitar]], [[keyboards]]
*[[Brendan Benson]] – [[vocals]], [[guitar]], [[keyboards]]
*[[Jack Lawrence (bassist)|Jack Lawrence]] (of [[The Greenhornes]] and [[Blanche (band)|Blanche]]) – [[bass guitar]]
*[[Patrick Keeler]] (of [[The Greenhornes]]) – [[drumkit|drums]], [[percussion]]
*[[Dean Fertita]] (of [[The Waxwings]] and currently [[Queens of the Stone Age]]) as a live touring member only – [[guitar]], [[keyboards]], [[percussion]]
 
==Biography==
''Soviet authorities sent Vlasov and his men to Moscow, and in a summary trial held in the summer of 1946 sentenced him and eleven other senior officers from his army to death. They were hanged on August 2, 1946. This was the last sentence to death by hanging in the Soviet Union. The remaining soldiers were loaded into boxcars and sent back to Russia. It was reported that some of them were machine gunned as they got off the train; however the majority of surviving Vlasov soldiers and low-ranking officers were not executed, but imprisoned to labor camps. Some of them were among 55 thousand collaborators that were pardoned by the post-Stalin Soviet government on September 17, 1955.''
===Formation===
According to the official website, "The seed was sown in an attic in the middle of a hot summer when friends Jack White and Brendan Benson got together and wrote a song that truly inspired them. This song was "[[Steady, As She Goes]]" and the inspiration led to the creation of a full band with the addition of Lawrence and Keeler."
The band came together in Detroit during 2005 and recorded when time allowed for the remainder of the year.
 
==="Steady, As She Goes"===
"[[Steady, As She Goes|Steady, As She Goes/Store Bought Bones]]" was released as a limited-edition 7-inch, 45 rpm vinyl record in Europe on [[January 30]], [[2006]],<ref name="NMEfirstsingle">[http://www.nme.com/news/white-stripes/22043 The Raconteurs confirm first single], ''[[NME]]'', [[2006-01-24]]</ref> and in North America on [[March 7]], [[2006]]. A CD version of "Steady, as She Goes" was released on [[April 24]], [[2006]], with the B-side "Bane Rendition."
 
The video for "Steady As She Goes," directed by [[Jim Jarmusch]], premiered on [[MTV2 Europe|MTV2]] on [[March 10]], [[2006]]. It was also available for streaming on the band's website. An alternate video, featuring the band racing each other in a soap box derby, with a rare appearance from [[Paul Reubens]] as the bad guy out to sabotage the race, premiered exclusively on [[Yahoo! Music]] [[June 19]], [[2006]].
I would really like to know the source of this information. I am doing a research project on the Vlasov's men. According to an article I found in National Geographic (don't ask me which one, it was a while ago) there were some Russian collaborators remaining in prison until the 1990s and I would presume until the final fall of the Soviet Union.
 
''[[Entertainment Weekly]]'' ran an article discussing how the song has the exact same bassline as [[Joe Jackson (musician)|Joe Jackson]]'s "[[Is She Really Going Out With Him?]]".<ref name="Copy">{{Cite web|url=http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1204700_4_0_,00.html|title=Do You Copy?|accessdate=2006-09-24|year=2006}}</ref>
Any information anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated.[[User:Piercetp|Piercetp]]
 
The closing seconds of the track have been used to close "Saturday Live" on BBC Radio 4, generating a lot of interest as to what the song is.
: Working link [http://web.archive.org/web/20041107141536/http://grazhdanin.com/grazhdanin.shtml?Arkhiv/G2001/stat56 here]. [[User:Pavel Vozenilek|Pavel Vozenilek]] 20:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 
===''Broken Boy Soldiers''===
:PS: Please sign your edits with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
 
The Raconteurs' full-length debut, titled ''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]'', was released on [[May 15]], [[2006]] in the UK on Third Man Recordings/XL Recordings and May 16 in the US on Third Man Recordings/V2 Records. It entered the UK charts at #2 and the US charts at #7. The album was recorded at Brendan Benson's in-home studio located in Detroit.
== Thanks Pavel but.... ==
 
On [[November 3]], [[2006]], the Raconteurs performed 'Broken Boy Soldier' and 'Store Bought Bones' on [[Later with Jools Holland]]. According to reporters from ''[[Planet Sound]]'' who attended the show taping, during 'Store Bought Bones' Jack White's guitar broke down and they had to re-play the song. This eventually happened four times, with the band breaking up in laughter by the 4th take. The TV airing used edited pieces from all four performances and cut out any laughter.
This link is in Russian. Does it mention anything about the fate of the soldiers in the ROA?
 
In December 2006, Broken Boy Soldiers was awarded the title Album of the Year by Britain's Mojo magazine.[http://www.albumofthemonth.com/mojo2006.html]
 
Recently, The Raconteurs have been nominated for two [[Grammy Awards]]: One for [[Grammy Award for Best Rock Album|Best Rock Album]] (for ''Broken Boy Soldiers''), and another for [[Grammy Award for Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal|Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal]] (for "Steady as She Goes").<ref> GRAMMY.COM - 49th Annual Grammy Awards Nominee List, http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/49th_Show/list.aspx</ref>
 
===Future Plans===
 
The band is currently recording songs for their next album at Blackbird Studios in [[Nashville, Tennessee]]. They have twelve songs written, and plan on releasing the album in 2008.<ref> Billboard.com "Raconteurs In The Thick Of Recording New Album",http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003575716</ref>
 
The Raconteurs have also recorded a new song called "Footsteps" with [[The Hives]], probably slated to be on the new album. "5 on the 5," a song the band played live, is likely to be on the album.
 
Along with those tracks, it's possible one of the many covers the band played live (or an entirely different one) will be on the album.
 
Other possibilities would be one of the leaked Brendan Benson demos. One reason for this was that both "Call It A Day" and "Together" were supposed to be on a solo album of his, as well as "Store Bought Bones" which was supposed to be a [[Get Behind Me Satan]] song. If a demo of his appeared on the new album, it would be likely to be "Feel Like Taking You Home Now" since critics have pointed out a Raconteurs influence.
 
Also, the title "Monkeys Have It Easy" was placed on the White Stripes site in the press release for [[Icky Thump]] with "discarded" after it. It's unlikely, but the song could be a new Raconteurs song now.
 
The band recorded for a three week period before they prepared for individual releases with their other bands, though Jack said they might not finish by then.
 
==Discography==
=== Albums ===
<gallery>
Image: Broken Boy Soldiers.jpg|<center>'''''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]'''''<br><center> [[May 15]], [[2006]]<br>[[V2 Records]]<br>US #7, UK #2<br><br><center>
</gallery>
 
They have also released live performance albums in limited quantities at their respective concerts.
 
===Singles===
{| class="wikitable sortable"
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|Year
!align="left" valign="top"|Song
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|<small>[[Billboard Hot 100|U.S. Hot 100]]<small>
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|<small>[[Modern Rock Tracks chart|U.S. Modern Rock]]<small>
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|<small>[[UK singles chart]]<small>
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|<small>[[UK Download Chart]]<small>
!align="center" valign="top" width="40"|<small>[[UK singles chart|UK Indie Singles]]<small>
!align="left" valign="top"|Album
|-
|align="center" valign="top"|2006
|align="left" valign="top"|"[[Steady, As She Goes]]"
|align="center" valign="top"|55
|align="center" valign="top"|'''1'''
|align="center" valign="top"|4
|align="center" valign="top"|5
|align="center" valign="top"|1
|align="left" valign="top"|''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]''
|-
|align="center" valign="top"|2006
|align="left" valign="top"|"[[Hands (Raconteurs song)|Hands]]"
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|29
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|2
|align="left" valign="top"|''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]''
|-
|align="center" valign="top"|2006
|align="left" valign="top"|"[[Broken Boy Soldier (Raconteurs song)|Broken Boy Soldier]]"
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|22
|align="center" valign="top"|39
|align="center" valign="top"|2
|align="left" valign="top"|''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]''
|-
|align="center" valign="top"|2007
|align="left" valign="top"|"[[Level (Raconteurs song)|Level]]"
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|7
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="center" valign="top"|-
|align="left" valign="top"|''[[Broken Boy Soldiers]]''
|-
|}
 
==Live performances==
The Raconteurs first performed live at the Academy in [[Liverpool]], [[United Kingdom|U.K.]], on [[March 20]], [[2006]], launching a short British tour. Their first American date was the next month, on [[April 20]] at [[New York City|New York]]'s [[Irving Plaza]]. Nearly nonstop touring followed, bringing the band to audiences around North America and Europe. The high profile of [[Jack White]] meant that even though the band was new, they were able to sell out mid-size venues — a rarity for a band's first tour.
 
The band has played a number of music festivals in Europe, Asia, and North America (including Lollapalooza in Chicago, IL and [[Austin City Limits Music Festival]] in [[Austin, Texas]]), headlining many.
 
In November [[2006]], the Raconteurs played eight dates as the opening act for [[Bob Dylan]] on the northeastern leg of his U.S. tour.
 
The band has performed a number of covers during live shows. For instance, the set list usually includes renditions of "[[Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)]]" (a song written by [[Sonny Bono]] and popularized by both [[Cher]] and [[Nancy Sinatra]]) and "Headin' For the Texas Border" by [[The Flamin Groovies]]. Other songs the band has covered include [[Gnarls Barkley]]'s "[[Crazy (Gnarls Barkley song)|Crazy]]", [[Bo Diddley]]'s "Who Do You Love?", [[The Undertones]]' "[[Teenage Kicks]]," [[David Bowie]]'s "[[It Ain't Easy (song)|It Ain´t Easy]]", and [[Love (band)|Love]]'s "A House Is Not A Motel".
 
== The Saboteurs ==
The Raconteurs were forced to rename themselves as "The Saboteurs" for the Australian market when it was discovered that a [[Queensland]] band was already using the name "Raconteurs". The Queensland band refused to give up their name for the amount they were offered, and instead tried to extract a higher price from the Raconteurs' record company.<ref name="HeraldSunNameChange">[http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18734967%255E28957,00.html Double-up forces switch], ''[[Herald Sun]]'', [[2006-04-07]]</ref>
A member of the Queensland band has said that they hadn't been informed of who was trying to buy their name and asked for the larger sum of money to see what would happen.<ref name="TripleJNameChange">[http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/musicnews/s1613948.htm Saboteurs of Raconteurs], ''[[Triple J|Triple J Music News]]'', [[2006-04-11]]</ref>
 
==Audio sample==
{{Listen|filename=Steady_as_she_goes.ogg|title="Steady, As She Goes"|description=25-second clip of the chorus of [[Steady, As She Goes]] by The Raconteurs|format=[[Ogg]]}}
 
==References==
{{reflist}}
 
==External links==
*[http://www.theraconteurs.com/ TheRaconteurs.com], Official website ([[Adobe Flash|Flash]] required)
*[http://www.candycanechildren.com/ CandyCaneChildren.com] news, message board, chat room
*[http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000944462 "White, Benson Make A Racket With Greenhornes"], from Billboard.com
*[http://www.brokenboysoldiers.net/"BrokenBoySoldiers.net"], Raconteurs tablatures and lyrics
*[http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/v2music/steady_ref.mov "Steady as She Goes" video (.MOV)]
*[http://www.avclub.com/content/node/52559 The Onion A.V. Club's interview with The Raconteurs], September 7th, 2006
*[http://www.theraconteursfans.com/ theRaconteursFans.com] - the Raconteurs fan site
* [http://www.videology-tv.com/viewclip.php?id=38#info Music Video for 'Broken Boy Soldier' + interview with director Floria Sigismondi]
* [http://www.albumofthemonth.com/magazineindex.html British music magazine album of the year lists]
*[http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/07/20/weekend-rock-list-best-live-bands-playing-today/ One of Rolling Stones Best Bands to See Live]
 
 
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