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===[[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Raymond arritt|Raymond arritt]]===
<span class="plainlinks">'''[{{fullurl:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Raymond arritt|action=edit§ion=4}} Voice your opinion]'''</span> ([[Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Raymond arritt|talk page]])
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{{User|Raymond arritt}} - Raymond arritt is one of our best editors on global warming and related articles. I had simply assumed he was an admin until a recent comment of his noted otherwise. He edits in an area where the admin bit is often a necessity, and his personality is more-or-less unflappable. I think he would make an excellent admin. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] 00:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:'' I accept. Thank you. [[User:Raymond arritt|Raymond Arritt]] 02:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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====Questions for the candidate====
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. You may wish to answer the following optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
:'''1.''' What admin work do you intend to take part in?
::'''A:''' I want to help out where help is needed. My perception is that the present admin corps is overextended, which leads to backlogs in some areas; for example, as I write this there are unresolved 3RR reports that are several days old. In areas where I have little prior experience I would hang back and watch for a while to see how things are done before leaping in. My concept of an admin is a regular editor who has some special abilities to help out by protecting articles, keeping out vandals, and the like. There are some folks who are essentially full-time admins, and I respect that, but I think that remaining active as an editor gives one a perspective of what it's like down in the trenches.
:'''2.''' What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
::'''A:''' Although I have expertise in a specific discipline and that's perhaps what comes to people's minds when they look at my contributions, what I really enjoy is polishing prose so that it's clear, concise, and effective. [[Strunk and White]] is my fountainhead. It's often said that Wikipedia does reasonably well on information content but that the prose tends to be verbose or unclear. I think that's a fair criticism and we could do more to spruce things up. An example of my work is an extensive copyedit that I did on [[Germany]] that helped to bring it up to FA.
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
::'''A:''' Stress? No. For me stress is when you're diagnosed with cancer, not when someone insults you on Wikipedia. Early in my experience as an editor I found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARaymond_arritt&diff=76795843&oldid=76617420 this] friendly comment on my talk page, so I've long known that it can be rough-and-tumble here. And there are times when I've been disillusioned with the project for various reasons. I have edited in some controversial areas and there have been occasions when I've been less tactful than I should have. Conversely there have been times when I've [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=111754972 defended editors who have the opposite take on an issue than myself]. Often on the [[global warming]] related articles there are people who make remarks on the talk pages with seemingly little purpose other than to vent about how it's all a liberal plot or some such. I think that one of the best ways to deal with provocations is to shrug and walk away. I'm glad to let someone else have [[WP:WORD|the last word]] ''as long as it doesn't negatively affect the article.''
:'''4'''. Optional question from SlimVirgin:
:Hi Raymond, I have a concern about your intervention recently in [[WP:V]], where you seemed to be advocating "scientific point of view" (SPOV). I completely agree with you that academic sources are almost always better than non-academic ones. Still, I worry about editors who want to lay down a rule that says non-academic sources may ''never'' be used in certain areas, no matter how reliable they are, unless academic sources are not available — any such rule would lead to SPOV, not NPOV. Yet that seemed to be the position you were advocating. Can you clearly state your position on this issue, please, as it pertains to the policies? That is, do you believe the policies should formally state that only academic sources may be used in certain articles? <font color="Purple">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]</font> <small><sup><font color="Blue">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</font><font color="Green">[[Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin|(contribs)]]</font></sup></small> 05:57, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
::Just to make this question harder, please SV and you may displease the rest of us... I thought your view as expressed (you seemed to say that notability was less important than credibility on matters of science: so we have to put Al Gore's views on global warming below those of a peer reviewed paper written by a post-doc in Physics Letters) were totally on the ball whereas SV was taking a position which was theoretically pure but impractical given the nature of science and those who comment on it... so the 6 million dollar answer is? --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 07:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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''Please keep criticism constructive and polite. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review [[Special:Contributions/Raymond arritt]] before commenting.''
====Discussion====
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'''Support'''
# '''Support''' - You're really not an admin yet? thought you were, as well. Raymond has been an outstanding editor, remaining civil while editing articles on the contentious topic of global warming, and is well-suited to be an admin. --[[User:Aude|Aude]] <small>([[User talk:Aude|talk]])</small> 01:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
# '''Support'''. Also suprised you're not an admin. Reviewing your contributions confirms my belief that you should be. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB''']][[User talk:WJBscribe|scribe]]</span> 01:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#Pretty damn obvious, really. '''[[User:Daniel|<span style="color:#2E82F4">Daniel</span>]]''' 01:37, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#Oh yeah, good choice. Civil, sensible, well-spoken, intelligent, great editor, should do good things. ~ [[User talk:Riana|Riana <font color="green">⁂</font>]] 01:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#Raul nominating...that's something you don't see everyday! [[User_talk:Giggy|<font color="green">'''Giggy'''</font>]] <sub>[[User:Giggy|<font color="red">U</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User:Giggy/Contribs|<font color="orange">C</font>]]</sup>[[WP:FING|P]] 01:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Per the above. <font face="comic sans ms">[[User:Kwsn|<span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00;">'''Kwsn'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Kwsn|<span style="background: #23238E; color: #FFFF00; ">(Ni!)</span>]]</sup></font> 01:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' A very impressive editor. Definately gets my support. [[User:Captain panda|<font color="orange" face="comic sans ms">Captain</font>]] [[User talk:Captain panda|<font color="red" face="Papyrus">panda</font>]] 02:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' That many edits to global warming and no stress? Impressive contributions. [[User:The_undertow|''the_undertow'']] [[User_talk:The_undertow|<font style="color:5bf8a9"><small><sup>talk</sup></small></font>]] 02:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' An excellent editor, and a voice of reason even in contentious topics. [[User:Hal peridol|Hal peridol]] 02:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Strong support''' per his record and answers above. He is another real editor who works effectively on controversial articles. [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] 02:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I support a full time editor who does some admin work --[[User:Ageo020|<font color="#2A52BE">'''Agεθ020'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Ageo020|<font color="#E49B0F">'''ΔT'''</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ageo020|<font color="#E52B50">'''ФC'''</font>]]) 03:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' mop is well-deserved for this user. Keep it up, <span class="comment plainlinks">(<span class="autocomment">[{{fullurl:User talk:O|action=edit§ion=new}} →]O -</span> [[User:O|R]][[Special:Contributions/O|L]][[User talk:O|Y?]])</span> 03:22, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Strong support''', per good answers to questions and my experience interacting with Raymond. We need more admins with experience editing controversial topics and keeping cool. The lot of an expert editing a controversial topic is not an easy one, but Raymond has fulfilled it admirably and will do good work with the tools. Absolutely no concerns. '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]''' <sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 03:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' It is time to give this user the mop. --<font style="background:gold">[[WP:EA|<font color="green">S</font>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</font><sup><font style="background:yellow">[[User talk:Siva1979|Talk to me]]</font></sup> 03:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Apparently, long overdue'''. If people say they thought you were an admin already, that shows that you are an exemplary editor, worthy of the mop. [[User:J-stan|<font color="Black">'''J-</font><font color="Red">stan'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:J-stan|<font color="808080">Talk</font>]]</sup> 03:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Candidate appears to be a dedicated contributor and should make a good admin. [[User:Majoreditor|Majoreditor]] 03:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I think the tools will go to good use here. [[User:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#008000">Jmlk</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmlk17|<span style="color:#000080">1</span>]][[User_talk:Jmlk17|<span style="color:#800000">7</span>]] 03:43, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Who will be next week's [[global warming]] veteran? [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 03:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' Can't see why you're not an admin already. [[User talk:(aeropagitica)|(aeropagitica)]] 04:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#-- <b>[[User:Y|Y]] [[User_talk:Y|not?]]</b> 04:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' A very useful editor to have around --[[User:Nethgirb|Nethgirb]] 07:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Very patient, very knowledgable, and, to quote someone from [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Stephan Schulz|another RfA]]: "far more sensible than me". --[[User:Stephan Schulz|Stephan Schulz]] 07:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Strong Support''' Quite a shock to learn not already an admin: one of the most sensible people in the whole of Wikipedia/ --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]] [[user talk:BozMo|talk]] 07:47, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
#'''Support''' this outstanding user. -- [[User:FayssalF|<font size="2px" face="Verdana"><font color="DarkSlateBlue">FayssalF</font></font>]] - <small>[[User talk:FayssalF|<font style="background: gold"><sup>''Wiki me up®''</sup></font>]]</small> 08:56, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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'''Neutral'''
#'''Neutral''' Pending answer to Q4--[[H|<font color="blue" face="vivaldi" size="3">H</font>]][[User:Hirohisat|<font color="blue" face="Times new roman" size="3">irohisat</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Hirohisat|<font color="orange" face="Times new roman">Talk</font>]]</sup> 06:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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