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==Short bio==
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Mexican mathematics grad school student.
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I'm also a major contributor of [http://planetmath.org Planetmath], the free mathematics encyclopedia.
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* [[Image:Drini-nonuniformconvergence.png|thumb|300px|left|Used on [[Uniform convergence]]]]
* [[Image:Drini-conjugatehyperbolas.png|thumb|300px|left|Used on [[Hyperbola]]]]
 
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* [[Wikipedia:Utilities]]
 
* [[Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense]]
* [[Wikipedia:Things to be moved to Wiktionary]]
 
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==August 4==
 
*[[Tourism in Canada]] - only a listing of Canada's provinces and territories, nothing on tourism. -- [[User:JeLuF|JeLuF]] 19:44, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**The page should be deleted, definitely. [[User:Marshallharsh|Marshallharsh]] 20:06, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** This actually seems to have the beginnings of some useful information (an incomplete discussion of tourist attractions in the various provinces). I'd prefer to keep and expand rather than delete. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 08:11, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
==August 5==
 
*[[Ifraa]] - had reconsidered and do not wish to have content here.
** What's our policy on this? I don't think the wishes of a group to not be included in the Wikipedia justify their exclusion. On the other hand, this group may be provincial and minor enough that it's not entirely necessary to have them in an encyclopedia. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 01:15, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
***As an extra reason for deletion: It's an orphan. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 10:18, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Ronnie Burk]] - First hit is wikipedia on google search. Can not find any sites talking about him in particular (there are many Ronnie Burk's). Search for his book returns only wikipedia article as a result (see [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=%22Ronnie+Burk%22+%22En+el+Jardin+de+los+Nopales%22 google search]). This will never be more than a stub. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 22:15, Aug 5, 2003 (UTC)
**Here are some sites dealing with or with work by the Ronnie Burk in question:
***http://www.milkmag.org/burk.htm
***http://www.jackmagazine.com/issue3/ronnieburk.html
***http://www.whatisaids.com/rbgq.htm
***http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/40.html
***http://www.iracohen.org/burk.html
***http://www.corpse.org/issue_10/broken_news/burke.html (transcript from trial)
***http://racetraitor.org/printjournal.html
***http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/deep-ecology/nov96/0047.html
***http://www.penguinputnam.com/Book/BookDisplay/0,1008,1573226300,00.html
***http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1574231014/104-0555320-5890344?v=glance&vi=contents (1996 incident throwing cat litter on Pat Christen)
::etc.
::--[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 19:24, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
::I've had a look through the above links, and I feel they do not, in and of themselves, justify the presence of [[Ronnie Burk]] in Wikipedia. A tribute page really ought to contain more information, so unless this article gets some more content in the near future, (and Boyer, you're probably the only one who cares enough to do so,) I vote for deletion. [[User:Cyan|Cyan]] 22:22, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Charles Radcliffe]] - Search for his name "Charles Jeremy St John Radcliffe" returns no results. There are a total of [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22Charles+Radcliffe%22+Heatwave 17 mentions] of the magazine he edited, "Heatwave". [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22Charles+Radcliffe%22+%22On+the+Poverty+of+Student+Life%22 7 results] when search for references concering him and his citation in On the Poverty of Student Life. Only [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22Charles+Radcliffe%22+Surrealism 24 mentions] of him regarding surrealism (compaired to around 257,000 results when searching for surrealism). Search for articles relating him to the friends magazine returns [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=%22Charles+Radcliffe%22+%22Friends+magazine%22 1 result]. This will never be more than a stub. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 22:27, Aug 5, 2003 (UTC)
** While he's certainly not particularly famous, it seems that some of the stuff he was involved with, such as ''Heatwave'', might conceivably be of historical interest. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 01:15, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
** You may consider those not many hits, I'd say they are more than enough to keep him. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 10:18, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Dan Georgiakis]] - Search for "Dan Georgiakis" returns only 9 results. This will never be more than a stub. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 23:09, Aug 5, 2003 (UTC)
** I'd probably put this on the borderline of encyclopedic -- a minor figure, but of some small historical interest perhaps. What does everyone else think? --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 01:15, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
*** Not missed when deleted, but not in the way when kept either. Might as well keep. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 10:18, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
== August 6 ==
 
 
*[[Elizabeth Ford]]. The page itself said it was copied from [http://www.ford.utexas.edu/grf/bbfbio.htm http://www.ford.utexas.edu/grf/bbfbio.htm]. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 03:29, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Which on the website of the Gerald R. Ford Library and Museum and is operated by the National Archives and Records Administration. Which is a US Federal agency so the material produced by them should be in the public ___domain. So it probably isn't a copyright violation. -- [[User:Popsracer|Popsracer]] 05:27, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***I placed an article at [[Betty Ford]] which does not use any copied material, and redirected [[Elizabeth Ford]] to there. Amusingly, the "official" web-site version doesn't mention her '''first''' marriage..... -- [[User:Someone else|Someone else]] 06:16, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[global]] - basically an overly long dictionary entry. This entry will always be about the word itself, rather than about something more worthy of an encyclopedia article like [[globalization]]. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:34, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** I read the global article ... could the applicable parts be incorporated into the globalization article? I still need to read the globalization article. Also ... couldn't this article be rewritten for a computer science perspective (as global related to variables)? I'm not sure if there is other implication for global than for CS. It's be a more abstract meaning than the one that the author of the current global article wanted to convey, but could be applicable ... mabey ... mabey not ... [[User:Reddi|reddi]] 20:02, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Obviously it's more than just CS that the term "Global" is used in. See [[Global Greens]] for instance, or lots of other entries with that adjective. One approach for these is to rewrite them for the [http://simple.wikipedia.com Simple English Wikipedia] for those who don't understand the implications of taggng something as "global". It might also go into [[globalization]] but that is already a quite long article. [[User:EntmootsOfTrolls|EofT]]
 
*[[social]] - glorified dictionary entry. We already have a page on [[society]]. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:34, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
**Two different issues. One is a noun, one an adjective. Would you combine the two with a whole section on "[[social]]" as a term meaning social interest has been considered, all in the article on [[society]]? That might be ok with a redirect. But the article is much more than one would see in a dictionary, even the [[Wiktionary]]. If I'm wrong about that, move it *there*. [[User:EntmootsOfTrolls|EofT]]
 
*[[dolce]] - dictionary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:34, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Appassionato]] - dictonary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:34, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[The Russian-American Company]] - copyright infringement. I have contacted the author of the website from which the text was lifted. In the meantime the page has been noted and the text moved to the talk page. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:50, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Padania]] - copyright infringement. I have contacted the author of the website from which the text was lifted. In the meantime the page has been noted and the text moved to the talk page. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:50, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Dan Blocker]] - copyright infringement. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:53, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
 
*[[Fixed-gear bikes]] - text is almost exactly the same as the ''Fixed gear'' section from the [[road cycling]] article. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:55, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Wood mizer]] - dictionary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:58, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Actually more of an ad. FWIW I have redirected it to a new article at [[portable sawmill]]. I think that may obviate the need for deletion. [[User:Kat|Kat]] 15:37, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[D L]] - dictionary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 03:58, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Major Qualifying Project]] - dictionary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 04:07, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Interdisciplinary Qualifying Project]] - dictionary entry. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 04:08, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[TKP]] - copyright -- [[User:Notheruser|Notheruser]] 05:24, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[List of Commissioners of the British Antartic Territory]] - I moved it to the correct spelling of Antarctic, and changed the links to it. I don't think it's significant enough for a redirect. -- [[User:Jakenelson|Jake]] 06:00, 2003 Aug 6 (UTC)
**Well I don't think it's significant enough for a VFD entry. Every time someone edits this page it's another 50 KB of disk space used up. We have a policy to keep spelling error redirects. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 06:05, Aug 6, 2003 (UTC)
*** I made a suggestion about this in the Talk Page [[User:Muriel Gottrop|Muriel Gottrop]] 06:29, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Anax Imperator (band)]] - article is written by a band member and is fairly self-promotional, and not encyclopedic in tone or content. It's written as an essay and appears to be taken mostly from their website. Could be written from a NPOV, but it would probably need to be written from scratch. -- [[User:Lexor|Lexor]] 11:24, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** I have moved the band page to [[Anax Imperator (band)]], and inserted a short dragonfly notice on [[Anax Imperator]] instead. I have also started rewriting the band page, to give it a more encyclopedic feel. [[User:Hba|Hba]] 12:40, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
*** I've removed the rest of the dragonfly bit, proper, if short, article now. [[User:Jimfbleak|jimfbleak]]
**Since the dragonfly has an English name -- the [[emperor dragonfly]] -- I've moved the page there, and made [[Anax imperator]] a disambiguation page. -- [[User:Cjmnyc|Cjmnyc]] 04:16, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Cita di Castello, Italy]] - copyvio. -- [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 12:06, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Curitiba]] - copyvio [[User:Muriel Gottrop|Muriel Gottrop]] 13:34, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
 
*[[SAD]] - a redirect to [[Helsinki Metropolitan Area]]. Even if this may historically have been accurate, probably [[WILD]] should currently redirect there. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick
** SAD should redirect to [[seasonal affective disorder]] IMO. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 17:26, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Yde Venema]] - University instructor. A vanitypage perhaps? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick
**Looks like to me. I'd say delete it. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:50, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** ''Moved from below, another request for deletion:'' bio of a university instructor. [[User:Angela|Angela]] 01:10, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** I bypassed RTFMing. Saw a link on another page and just had at it. I've since been remediated and concur. [[User:Jtvisona|jtvisona]] 01:49, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Jtvisona refers to the single reference added by the [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=131.175.124.30 Anon 131.175.124.30]. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 01:57, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
** Removed aforementioned link pending decision for deletion. [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Universal_algebra&action=history] (12.x.x.x is me) [[User:Jtvisona|jtvisona]] 04:11, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Scryed]] - copyvio [[User:Muriel Gottrop|Muriel Gottrop]] 14:54, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**I took what was written their directly from my personal web page. If it violates a copyright, then i'll rewrite it. [[User:ZeWrestler]]
**page has been rewritten to avoid copyright problems.[[User:ZeWrestler|ZeWrestler]]
 
* [[Acornford]]
** Original text was "English translation of <nowiki>[[Eckernförde]]</nowiki>"; this is a literal translation only, that is (to the best of my knowledge) never used and apparently originated in the phantasy of the article's editor. -- [[User:Cordyph|Cordyph]] 16:46, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Google gives about 21 results for "Acornford", none of which seem to be related to the city of Eckernf&ouml;rde in any way. Unless there are objections, I would suggest deleting the current (redirect) page as well. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 17:19, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Valencian language of that epoch]] - short, badly written, badly named, and there is already an article on [[Valencian language]]. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 17:55, Aug 6, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[:Image:Africa_w_comoros_50.jpg]] - I replaced it with an other one which I find better (on [[Geography of Comoros]], now the image is not used anywhere. [[User:Pascal|Pascal]] 18:07, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[dsDNA]] -- content would be more appropriate in [[DNA]], and so I moved it there -- only one page linked to it, until I orphaned it -- article doesn't appear to have any potential for growth
 
*[[Pure Country]] -- someone's local band. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 22:12, Aug 6, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 01:39, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 14:12, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Soviet Union/Temp]], [[China/Temp]], [[United Kingdom/Temp]] - very old temp pages that are no longer of any use. '''Do not''' delete the talk pages. --[[User:Jiang|Jiang]] 22:52, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
== August 7 ==
 
*[[Anti-Christian calendar theory]] -- seems to be more someone's personal opinion than anything else. Does not cite any actual references or examples for this "theory". While criticisms of the [[CE]] notation may exist, these should be covered in the article about [[Common Era]] and not under some idiosyncratic headline.[[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 00:24, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
**I agree.. it should be combined with [[Common Era]]. [[User:Evil saltine|Evil saltine]] 05:12, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** A search on google for this exact phrase yields only [http://www.onelook.com/?loc=rescb&w=anti-christian+calendar+theory this page], but we're they're source! :) Nuke/transplant it. (Do I even get a say?) [[User:12.207.166.232|jtvisona]] 01:44, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC) The link from ''Conspiracy'' is the only link. [[User:12.207.166.232|jtvisona]] 01:44, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Delete. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:03, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
**Delete. [[User:M123|M123]] 08:17, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* ''[[Yde_Venema]] moved above''
 
*[[Jumpstart 2nd Grade]],[[Jumpstart 3rd Grade]],[[Jumpstart 4th Grade]],[[Jumpstart 5th Grade]] -- contents moved to [[Jumpstart]], right now just redirects, I don't think they deserve their own namespaces. [[User:Wshun|wshun]] 01:23, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
 
*[[Ernest Becker]]. Possible copyvio. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:42, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[The Magic School Bus Plays Ball]] - stub about an episode of an obscure children's educational program, [[The Magic School Bus]]. More useless stubs also present...--[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 04:36, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Other useless stubs are; Television episodes: [[The Magic School Bus In The Haunted House]], [[The Magic School Bus All Dried Up]], [[The Magic School Bus Meets The Rot Squad]], [[The Magic School Bus Hops Home]], [[The Magic School Bus Gets Eaten]], [[The Magic School Bus Inside Ralphie]], [[The Magic School Bus For Lunch]], [[The Magic School Bus Gets Lost In Space]], [[The Magic School Bus Kicks Up A Storm]], [[The Magic School Bus Gets Ants In It's Pants]], and [[The Magic School Bus Goes To Seed]]; Books: [[The Magic School Bus explores the Senses]], [[The Magic School Bus and the Electric Field Trip]], [[The Magic School Bus inside a Beehive]], [[The Magic School Bus inside a Hurricane]], [[The Magic School Bus in the Age of Dinosaurs]], [[The Magic School Bus on the Ocean Floor]], [[The Magic School Bus lost in the Solar System]], [[The Magic School Bus inside the Human Body]], and [[The Magic School Bus inside the Earth]]. - [[User:Efghij|Efghij]] 04:39, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**I absolutely agree regarding the Magic School Bus stuff. Keep the main page but collapse the separate pages into a table on that page, no reason to have all these stubs. [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 06:06, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
**Summarize content in main article, but keep redirects. No need to list on VfD, really, but a job for someone with some free time on their hands.[[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 06:23, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
***Er... I could do it.. infact I've already started.. um yeah [[User:Evil saltine|Evil saltine]] 06:25, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Personal Information Wiki]], [[Wiki Theory]], [[Wikipedia:Wiki Theory]] -- idiosyncratic. Has been moved to Meta-Wikipedia, these pages can safely be deleted [[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 10:34, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[:Image:cash rolls.gif]] and other images by [[User:Rozwell]] - animated gifs and whatnot that don't seem to have anything to do with Wikipedia. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 06:20, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** By all means delete; multiple messages meet with no response, maybe deletion will get this person's attention. - [[User:Hephaestos|Hephaestos]] 06:28, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[carcism]] - Seems to be a bogus term coined by people using the listing to plug their website. [[User:Mw66|Mw66]] 06:30, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:10, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Ealdorman]] - miniature dictionary entry.[[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 08:15, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[You insensitive clod]] - non-encyclopedic, dictionary etc.[[User:Eloquence|&mdash;Eloquence]] 10:34, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Donald T. Jones]], [[Emilio Ortiz, Jr.]] - September 11 articles, blanked, appropriate content moved to Sep11 wiki -- [[User:212|212]] 14:21, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[:Image:Strangegirlie.jpg]], [[:Image:Holla.gif]], [[:Image:Sent.jpg]] - New stuff from [[User:Rozwell]]. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 14:34, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Open chain]], [[Aliphatic hydrocarbon]] - dictionary entries. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 15:20, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** These are chemistry definitions, so I would think they belong in an encyclopedia rather than a dictionary. Or maybe a textbook would be even better? [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 17:41, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
** Group short chemistry definitions into one article. -- [[User:Wshun|wshun]] 18:17, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
*** Sounds like a good idea to me. There's already pages like [[Glossary of ring theory]], so why not something like "Glossary of chemical terms", "Glossary of organic chemistry" or something similar? -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 18:21, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Universidad Pública de Navarra]] - copyvio -- [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 17:46, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Ahmad Anvari]] - personal vanity page/resume. -- [[User:Chadloder|Chadloder]] 18:27, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 06:01, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
** Irrelevant, non-encyclopedic. Delete [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]]
 
* [[Karass]] - in bad need of rewriting; I think the current article is not acceptable. -- [[User:Schneelocke|Schnee]] 18:46, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** [[Granfalloon]] seems to be more of the same. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:10, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Christian Boyer]], [[John Boyer]] -- people who seem to have nothing encyclopedic about them beyond having lived in the 19th century. Added by [[User:Mbecker]], presumably to prove some sort of a point as part of the ongoing [[Daniel C. Boyer]] dispute. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 20:31, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
** They are relevant to my re-write of [[Daniel C. Boyer]], and are no worse than the old [[Daniel C. Boyer]] entry. I find this [[Daniel C. Boyer]] much more interesting, and he has some historical significance as opposed to the user [[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]]. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 21:13, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
*** I fail to see the historical significance of "lived in the 19th century and bought some land." It is clear you're adding these solely because their last name is "Boyer" as part of a dispute over that article, not of their own merits. Please stop editing the Wikipedia in bad faith. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 21:27, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)
**The publicity stunts in this debate are getting a bit silly. Delete. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 00:32, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
**Looks a bit like [[Kepple Disney II]] to me, and that article and all the other Disneys have survived. --[[User:KF|KF]] 00:43, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***I'll happily put those on VfD. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:10, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**DELETE. This is silly. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:06, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
==August 8 ==
 
*[[Sean Healy]]
**Created recently by [[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]], containing only "Sean Healy thinks the US refuses to support the ICC because it wants to reserve the right to commit war crimes." -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 12:09, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Balkan wars]] - copyvio. [[User:Vicki Rosenzweig|Vicki Rosenzweig]] 14:48, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Telpuilgoc]] This seems to describe an artificial language. The creator is anonymous, and Google returns no hits. The one external link is a very brief description with what seems to be an unnecessary number of Star Wars references. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 15:39, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Coto de casa]] - Pretty much an advertisement; possible copyvio, although probably submitted by a principle. See: http://www.coto.com/GeneralNewsUpdate/ -- [[User:Wfeidt|Bill]] 15:42, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**I transfered some of the inforamtion and redirected it to [[Coto de Caza, California]]. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 19:02, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Nationalism of India]] - this page looks to be cut and paste RSS propaganda. [[User:Jfeckstein|Jfeckstein]] 18:14, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Agree. Even if it's not the copyvio it looks like, the poster should make some serious editing. [[User:Muriel Gottrop|Muriel Gottrop]] 18:20, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Yes, and the subject is also addressed in [[India's independence movement]] -- [[User:Wfeidt|Bill]] 20:32, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Coritiba Foot Ball Club]] - copy vio [[User:Muriel Gottrop|Muriel Gottrop]] 18:20, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Christian Schmitz]] -- content: "not a patriotic american" -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 19:52, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
** Now been updated to claim he's a philosopher, yet ''"Christian Schmitz" philosopher'' brings up only 3 Google hits. Delete. [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 20:09, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 02:23, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)
** Junk. Delete - [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 14:17, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Frank Damek]] -- article I created when I was a noobie, he is a real person and it really happened but not worth an aritlce on him. -fonzy
** Couldn't that become integrated in some article about [[card game]]s, or [[chance]]? -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 20:35, Aug 8, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Brad Dourif]] - apparent copyvio. [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 20:30, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Cable (superhero)]], [[Banshee (superhero)]], [[Archangel (superhero)]], [[Polaris (superhero)]], [[Polaris (superhero)]] and [[Nightcrawler]] all appear to have copyvio issues; see: http://www.x-women.org/lornabio.html, http://www.linkt.com.au/~scott/bios/banshee.html, etc. -- [[User:Wfeidt|Bill]] 21:54, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Olin Honor Code]] - I wonder if this is a copyright violation. It also isn't really in a form of an encyclopedia entry, so I'm not really excited about it. Thoughts? -- [[User:Dwheeler|Dwheeler]] 22:51, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. Does not belong here at all. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:07, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Stephen Schneider]] -- Crank article. Exists only to disparage subject, who has apparently dissed somebody's guru. Contains almost no information about subject's life and work.
** This appears to have undergone NPOV editing... it looks reasonable now.
*** No, it isn't. I actually know the guy. Still has almost no bio, link to kook site, and factual errors.
 
== August 9 ==
 
*[[September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack/External news sites]] - no longer helpful; do we really need to donate money at this point in time? This article was originally made on Sept 14, 2001. Some links may be obsolete. --[[User:Jiang|Jiang]] 05:41, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** no longer helpful? donate money? hmm mabey i missed something but i didn't see any donation things ... and the links aren't obsolete. Most goto sites that still have info on them (atleast the first few categories did) -- [[User:Reddi|reddi]] 20:24, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Zhou Tai]], [[Zhou Yu]], [[Pang Tong]] copyvio
: originally from [http://kongming.net/novel/sgz/zhoutai.php http://kongming.net/novel/sgz/zhoutai.php], [http://www.kongming.net/novel/kma/zhouyu.php http://www.kongming.net/novel/kma/zhouyu.php], [http://www.kongming.net/novel/kma/pangtong.php http://www.kongming.net/novel/kma/pangtong.php]
: have put notice on pages [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 07:13, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Request of Extradition of the former President Alberto Fujimori]] - primary source text. --[[User:Jiang|Jiang]]
* moved from below:
** [[Extradition of the former President Alberto Fujimori]] - not encyclopedic -- [[User:Cordyph|Cordyph]] 19:36, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
*** ''Primary source'' goes to sourcebourg, if it exists at all. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 19:41, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)
** Should be an external link on some other page, not an article in its own right. Just a primary source. Delete. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 13:48, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Holiday Inn]] and [[:Image:Holidayinn7.jpeg]]
**Copyright violation, as admitted by the contributor on [[Wikipedia talk:Village pump]] -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 12:16, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[:Image:Gumpei_Yokoi_2.JPG]] suspected copyvio, see uncropped image http://www.angelfire.com/ms/virtualboy2/ (crop of AP credit notice), other images uploaded (some trademark images) might be violations as well... [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 16:25, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Hank Asher]], [[Matrix (law enforcement database)]] - possible copyright infringements -- [[User:Sannse|sannse]] 16:45, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[List of mentally unbalanced chess players]] - This can never be NPOV. [[User:Mintguy|Mintguy]] 17:42, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Content could be merged with "Famous people who played chess" or similar other chess article. -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]]
***I've added the two players who weren't already there to [[list of chess players]]. I think the "mentally unbalanced" list can be deleted - see [[Talk:List of mentally unbalanced chess players]] for more reasons (if they're needed). --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]] 00:53, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* All images uploaded by [[User:Tonius]], copyright viols, and many orphaned because I've deleted the contentless "articles". [[User:Jimfbleak|jimfbleak]] 17:50, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Seems to be part of a [[Timeline of video games]] project, see [[User:Tonius]]
 
* [[Anticipatory self-defense]] and [[Caroline Incident]] are orphans, redirecting to [[SS Caroline]], which now itself redirects to [[Caroline Affair]]. I was going to make them redirect to [[Caroline Affair]] as well, but since nothing links to them they might as well be deleted. [[User:Adam Bishop|Adam Bishop]] 18:56, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Anticipatory self-defense has significance beyond the Caroline Incident. It should not be a redirect. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 13:53, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Viktor Klimenko]], rv to NPOV version gets blanked regularly by [[User:65.19.129.213]], author of first highly POV version. -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 21:00, Aug 9, 2003 (UTC)
**Much as it pains me to type this, he really does deserve a NPOV article about himself on Wikipedia. He is such an integral part of Finnish cultural Kitsch. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick
 
*[[Charlie Wilson]], someone telling that he once met Wilson, not encyclopedic. -- [[User:JeLuF|JeLuF]] 21:30, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Ante Pavelic]], possible copyright violation -- [[User:JeLuF|JeLuF]] 22:06, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Mileva Maric]], possible copyright violation -- [[User:JeLuF|JeLuF]] 22:17, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Marijuana logues]], possible copyright violation -- [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 22:31, 9 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
==August 10==
 
*[[Chigorin]] and its associated image [[:Image:Chess1.jpg]] - as I said at [[Talk:Chigorin]], the page has nothing at all to do with Chigorin (and little to do with anything else). --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]]
**There is also [[Breaking open the center lines]] with [[:Image:Ruy Lopez02.jpg]] [[:Image:Ruy Lopez02a.jpg]] [[:Image:Ruy Lopez02b.jpg]] and [[:Image:Ruy Lopez02c.jpg]] - inasmuch as it makes sense at all, the article is rather misleading (see [[Talk:Breaking open the center lines]]). --[[User:Camembert|Camembert]] 13:23, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Chronicles of Berth]] - what ''is'' this? [[User:Jimfbleak|jimfbleak]] 06:02, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**very strange and certainly not encyclopedia material in its present form[[User:Ping|Ping]] 08:18, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
*[[Dessicant]] - was just a link. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 06:15, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**I've redirected to the proper spelling and made it into a stub. [[User:Dysprosia|Dysprosia]] 06:20, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Employ]], [[Feud]] - all dictionary definitions. -- [[User:Minesweeper|Minesweeper]] 09:20, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Vasubandhu]] - possible copyright violation. -- [[User:Minesweeper|Minesweeper]] 09:20, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Finland facts]] - doesn't look at all encyclopedic, and some of the content is dubious at best (notably when it starts talking about Belgians) [[User:Vicki Rosenzweig|Vicki Rosenzweig]] 14:14, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**All of the info AFAICT is at best subtly off-base. Loads of the info is '''at least''' ten years old and out of date. Frankly it would be less trouble to start from scratch than to edit this to be remotely correct. -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 15:53, Aug 10, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 08:36, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. Note: There is also a [[Belgium facts]] which is probably where the anon user copied it from in the first place. Delete that too? -- [[User:Jniemenmaa|Jniemenmaa]] 15:44, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[List of Finnish postal codes]] - looks like a direct data dump from the Finnish postal service, not remotely encyclopedic. [[User:Vicki Rosenzweig|Vicki Rosenzweig]] 14:38, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**It's not even comprehensive. Lacks frex. 00011 the code for the postal service itself. Hasta la vista, baby! -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 15:53, Aug 10, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete or beautify it. The only reason it's not an orphan is because the Anon starter stuck a Wikilink of it at [[Finland]]. Why would a general article on a nation be concerned with a link to a ugly list of ###########? --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 20:01, Aug 10, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Piero]] - This was a redirect left behind when the content was moved to [[Piero de' Medici]]. However, now that I've reworked a lot of the Medici pages, no page refers to this any more. Given that it's simply a common Italian given name, it should go. [[User:Jnc|Noel]] 16:45, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Homework assignment]] copyvio --[[User:Jiang|Jiang]]
 
*[[Gangrene]] - copyvio ([http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/g2601/0005/2601000573/p1/article.jhtml?term=gangrene]); violation confirmed by copyright policy; you should consider recreating the article from the stub text that existed before Daear's edit -[[User:Smack|Smack]] 19:56, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Sonoluminescense]] - an orphan article, written in French. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 20:21, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 08:36, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
*** Made it a redirect so it can be kept. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 14:27, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Nationalism of India]], possible copyright violation and a research article --[[User:Wshun|wshun]] 22:14, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Sorry, I didn't notice that it is already listed two days ago. [[User:Wshun|wshun]] 01:08, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
==August 11==
 
*[[Britten-Norman]] - article says little, if anything. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 00:26, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Watchman Nee]] -- copyvio. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 04:19, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[California Jam rock festival]] - just a band list. -- [[User:Notheruser|Notheruser]] 04:35, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 08:36, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Kaze no Kizu]] I nearly deleted on sight, but it might be intelligible to someone. [[User:Jimfbleak|jimfbleak]] 06:13, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** It's a dictionary definition from [[Inuyasha]], an anime television series, specifically, the Japanese/undubbed version. I watch the show (dubbed, *gasp*), no way does this need an entire article in either English or Japanese. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 06:46, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 08:36, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[The NEEN MANIFESTO]] - rather non-sensical source material - [[User:Efghij|Efghij]] 08:45, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 20:23, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
*** Much like [[neen art]] (see below). Delete. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 11:26, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Neen art]] - more surrealist art stuff of indeterminate (but probably small) significance, article initiator seems to be a gallery owner exhibiting this stuff. Note: I already deleted NEEN MANIFESTO on the basis that it's a primary source. What is it with all these damn self-promoting surrealist artists? --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 09:42, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** I'm confused about what [[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] is talking about because there is no question that [[neen art]] is not surrealist in any way. At least, the eccentric way in which this is written, which makes it very difficult to figure out what this is all about, could stand substantial revision, but perhaps deletion is a better option. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 17:06, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
*** Surrealist, not surrealist. I can't figure it out. What I can figure out is this is blatant self-promotion for an art movement of little verifiable significance. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 23:00, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**** Judging by some googling, it seems very insignificant and it sure is self-promotional. Delete. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 11:23, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Dedicated lines]] - not sure what this article is about - makes no sense.
** replaced with a meaningful stub. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 12:25, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Salou]] POV tourist brochure. It would take a braver man than me to NPOV that; and I wonder if there were much left if someone did. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 20:23, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
** Also copyright vio from http://www.salou.info/angles/index.php. On the other hand, I guess I'm a braver man than you, and managed to extract two lines of NPOV out of the article. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:00, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Two wrongs make a right]] - Not really NPOV, and doesn't seem as though anyone would intentionally go to this article. [[User:Paullusmagnus|Paullusmagnus]] 13:05, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** delete: not even a real expression, looks mostly like advocacy rather than an article. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 20:11, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Rinku-Town]] - copyvio. -- [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 13:24, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Prince of Asturia's Prize]] and [[Prince_of_Asturia_Awards]] - moved to [[Prince of Asturias Awards]]. Thx. -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] 14:11, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[18th Street gang]] - Sorry, don't know much about this, but it looks rather irrelevant. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 13:57, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 20:23, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
** Keep. [[User:M123|M123]] 21:53, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Keep. Lexis-Nexis gives a long list of articles about this group's activities, and I've turned the article into a slightly better stub. A wider article on [[crime in Los Angeles]] would be good... --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 23:12, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Alexander_Cockburn_(Lord_Chief_Justice)]] - already exists at [[Alexander James Edmund Cockburn]] Thanks. -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] 18:40, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**No need to delete, it makes a useful redirect.
 
*[[Saturday Night Massacre]] - copyright violation - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 20:05, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Taja Kramberger]] - non-famous person, no indication on *why* this person might be important - [[User:Guest|Guest]] 23:09, Aug 11, 2003 (UTC)
**I see no reason '''''not''''' to keep it. The ''last'' thing we need is a policy that requires debates about something as subjective as how important the subject of each new article is. [[User:Mkweise|Mkweise]] 22:37, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***Wrong. See [[Wikipedia:Auto-biography]], [[Wikipedia:what Wikipedia is not]], and related links as to the varying reasons most of us think there is a need for this.
***I disagree with your principle, but I agree with keeping the page. In my opinion, having written some books of poetry which have been translated in various languages is more than enough for an indication as to why someone is important. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 12:00, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Hmm. She's published books of poetry in Slovenian. Do we have any Slovenians who can verify the existence and circulation of these books. Is she well known in Slovenia? --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 23:12, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***183 hits on google, including Italian, Hungarian, Romanian language sites. Most of the sites refer to Taja as a poet, not scientist. One lists Taja Kramberger as one of the ten notable Slovene poets of the 90's. I would say that without contrary evidence that should suffice to keep the article. -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 02:43, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Stuart Todd]] - a supposed rock 'legend' having success in Japan till he was killed by a fan, however a google search for '"stuart todd" japan shot fan' produces zero results. [[User:Mintguy|Mintguy]] 22:34, 11 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
==August 12==
 
*[[Pac-Man]] - This article is a redirect to the entry for [[Pac Man]] (without the hyphen). The correct name of the game is "Pac-Man" with the hyphen. Please delete the current "Pac-Man" (with the hyphen) article, so that we can move the current [[Pac Man]] page (plus edit history and credit) over to [[Pac-Man]]. Thank you for your consideration.
**There is no need to delete the former page. It contains no history other than than its creation as a redirect to [[Pac Man]]. In these cases the latter page can be moved to the former without deletion of the former. [[User:Mintguy|Mintguy]] 10:01, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***By Jove, it works. I was under the impression that it was impossible to move a page in such a way that it overwrites any existing page. How does it work? Is there a special rule that allows redirect pages to be overwritten automatically?
****A page '''A''' can be moved to an existing page '''B''' if and only if:
****# '''B''' redirects to '''A''', '''and'''
****# '''B''' has no edit history. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 11:43, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Malolan]] - apparently some sort of an essay in favor of building a temple (of what religion?) in the Washington, D.C. area. The page doesn't even use the term ''Malolan'' either, which is rather confusing. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] 00:55, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 04:13, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[1957 incumbents]]. Do we really want an article containing every officholder in every country for every position for every year in history, or are we planning on just having this one page? And why 1957 in particular? [[User:RickK|RickK]] 01:44, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** This article was just an idea I had and I picked a random date for it. I think they might eventually be quite useful.<br>I think this sort of information is quite relevant to how we link to year articles. For instance someone reading about the [[Great Smog of 1952]] would quite likely be interested to see who was British PM in that year, more so than what was published that year, for instance.<br>This is just the sort of obscure, but useful, information that wikipedia will want to gather as it heads for the million article mark, information that would be hard to find anywhere else.<br>It can usefully illustrate trends, for instance the 1980's cabal of conservatives leaders such as Reagan, Thatcher, Kohl, Mulroney etc., who were all in office at the same time.<br>Lists like [[US Senators in 1957]] can certainly be regarded to be as important, or even more important, than such things as hit songs or the winner of that year's horse races. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 02:48, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
*** Given the experimental nature, perhaps this should be off in your sandbox until it's a bit more fully developed... [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:01, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Benoit B. Mandelbrot]] - redirect to [[Benoit Mandelbrot]]; only appeared in one article ([[Mandelbrot set]]), and that link has been changed [[User:Joshuabowman|JPB]] 01:48, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** seems like an okay redirect to me [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:01, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
** Yes, keep it. I think we are keeping too many redirects of nonsense titles, CamelCase etcetera, but this is a valid alternative name, and as such I would not dream of removing it. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 11:43, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Keep it. --[[User:Daniel C. Boyer|Daniel C. Boyer]] 13:38, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** I've looked more carefully at the [[Wikipedia:deletion policy|deletion policy]] now, and I apologize for taking up this space. No more recommendations from me to delete redirects! [[User:Joshuabowman|JPB]] 19:57, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Salou]] - page appears to be some marketing yuckspeak from the tourist board, with no balance or much actual data about the place. It is the only contribution from the (anon) user who created it. The page should probably exist, but not in this form. [[User:GRAHAMUK|GRAHAMUK]] 01:57, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Just delete the ad unless someone bothers to fix it first. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] 07:01, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
*** Would love to, but the page appears to be protected!! Not sure how that can happen, but there it is. [[User:GRAHAMUK|GRAHAMUK]]
**** Could have been an accident. Unprotected. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 07:33, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Jacqueline Lamba]]
**Copyvio -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 02:01, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Billy Strayhorn]]. NOt an encyclopedia article. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:12, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**If he wrote "Take the A-Train" this guy certainly deserves a Wikipedia article. Certainly needs a rewrite, though. --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 02:54, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***I have no problem with that, but I certainly don't feel qualified to rewrite it. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 04:03, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[:Image:Uxmal ballcourt.jpg]] I titled (and captioned) this image wrong, as I found out on visiting an external link and then Googline for "Nunnery Quadrangle." Image isn't being used any longer, q.v. [[Uxmal]]. [[User:Koyaanis Qatsi|Koyaanis Qatsi]] 08:15, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Thursday (band)]]. Is empty '''and''' protected. In other words, just about anything possible has been done to make this page useless. [[User:Andre Engels|Andre Engels]] 09:53, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Unprotected and restored pre-Michael content. Don't know whether it should be kept. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 11:11, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Delete. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 11:19, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[British Monetary Crisis]] -- Needs to be deleted or subject to a massive rewrite. The text was borrowed from a POV rant posted on the Great Depression article and later removed. But if you do not take my word for it, let me quote another user:
 
:"Having read the article I do not think the rewrite done is salvageable. Its analysis is so biased even Margaret Thatcher would have blanched reading it. It is so inaccurate and POV it is mindblowing; it is the equivalent of the IRA writing an Irish history article or Saddam Hussein (or rather his ludicrous war spokesman) writing an account of the war in Iraq. The version 172 reverted to is deeply flawed, by far less so than the rubbish which there now. IMHO we should use the version 172 reverted to as the starting point and work on it, incorporating from it the less loopy elements of the current article (I'm sure there is something in somewhere that qualifies, though a first and second glance didn't show up much). I would suggest using the 172 revert as a temp into which salvageable bits of the current article can be moved. Using the current version as the starting point would, as Mr. Spock would say, illogical. It is sooooo POV and simplistic as to be comical. Trying to add to a workable but flawed basic article is preferable to trying to take apart a much longer monumentally flawed bit of POV nonsense, most of which is beyond salvation.
 
:I won't claim to be an expert on that area but from the knowledge I do possess, I have rarely read an article that drew more "you can't be serious", "that is BS" and "for f¨*** sake, that is crap" responses from me as this article. This is to history what the X-files is to science. And keeping what is there now as a template would make wiki a laughing stock among historians of the period. Wiki has many many good points but its weakness is that some people, if no-one notices, can totally agendise an article to the point where it becomes a totally biased loopy polemic, whether extreme right or extreme left. This is one article that had been so agendised, so such an extent that it would be a nightmare trying to salvage it. Which is why I believe the revertion, though an extreme act, in this case is the best, or at least the least worst, route. [[User:Jtdirl|FearÉIREANN]] 02:40 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)" [[User:172|172]] 14:22, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
 
* [[Bond Girl]] I accidentally created this with the wrong capitalisation. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 16:16, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** Leave it as a redirect &mdash; people are just as likely to link to "Bond Girl" as they are to "Bond girl". &mdash;[[User:Paul A|Paul A]] 01:27, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Sales tax]] - redirect that doesn't go anywhere - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 18:48, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[Eric Ho]] - self-promotion by some Eric. -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 18:58, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
* [[2062]] - about fictional events in the year. No reason why the content shouldn't just be at the relevant article about the fiction. [[User:Evercat|Evercat]] 19:45, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**No opinion on where the text should be, but I did take the trouble of fixing the page to the standard format with century and decade links. So I vote to keep it, and wait for legitimate content. -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 01:59, Aug 13, 2003 (UTC)
 
 
* [[802701]] - Same as [[2062]]. [[User:Vancouverguy|Vancouverguy]] 20:02, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
** also [[2156]] & [[2199]] - [[User:Efghij|Efghij]] 20:07, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC)
***These are ''not'' the "same" as [[2062]], the difference is that there are decade links up to [[2090s], the later dates at this stardate still lack them. Hence I wouldn't delete [[2062]] but the later years should definitely be disposed of, and the data moved where relevant, if there is such a place. -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 01:59, Aug 13, 2003 (UTC)
 
 
*[[Access to Energy]] - could be a significant publication, but it isn't immediately obvious from the stub. -- [[User:Cimon avaro|Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick]] 20:41, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide]] - A wikipedia entry about an obscure (self-published) article for one position in the climate change discussion. -- [[User:Tillwe|till we *)]] 21:01, Aug 12, 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[Princess Stephanie of Belguim]] is a missspelling of [[Princess Stephanie of Belgium]] --[[User:Diftong|Diftong]] 22:26, 12 Aug 2003 (UTC) -- I've turned it into a redirect as a temporary measure [[User:Cyan|Cyan]] 00:47, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)
**Other [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=67.119.27.233 contributions of 67.119.27.233] are problematic with regard to copyright. I've asked for clarification at [[User_talk:67.119.27.233]] -- [[User:Someone else|Someone else]] 01:36, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 
*[[SnipSnap]] - just an external link for some weblog/Wiki software. [[User:Ark30inf|Ark30inf]]