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===[[User:Weyes|Weyes]]===
== Psytrance artists ==
'''[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Weyes2a|action=edit}} Vote here] (18/7/0) ending 16:23, [[30 June]] 2005 (UTC)'''
'''Bureaucrat Statement'''<BR>
Hi and welcome to Wikipedia! Great job on updating my psytrance music stubs, we need all the help we can get. :) Just one thing ... I see you created separate articles for [[Juan Verdera]] and [[The Muses Rapt]], but they contain the same information. In cases like this you would probably want to redirect one of the articles to the other (see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect]). Once again, good job on the articles and the images! - [[User:Ld|Ld]] | [[User_talk:Ld|talk]] 17:00, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[[User:Raul654|Raul654]] and I have assented to nullify the old vote on Weyes and start this as a new nomination, without prejudice. The reason for this action is that there were considerations of voting irregularities that tainted the earlier vote so that it was impractical to properly determine consensus, even with extensions. By "without prejudice," I mean that we are making no judgment whatever on the quality of Weyes' nomination or Weyes as user, and voters should '''not''' take this restarting of the vote as any commentary for or against the candidacy itself. '''Please''' look at this candidacy fresh. '''If you voted before, you must vote again for your vote to count.''' The original candidate statement and the candidate's original responses to the questions follow. Thank you, [[User:Cecropia|Cecropia]] | [[User talk:Cecropia|''explains it all'' ®]] 04:33, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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Ok, fine, I give up. A few days ago [[User:Jfdwolff|Jfdwolff]] was kind enough to [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Weyes2|nominate me]] for adminship, but I turned it down as I wasn't sure I wanted to commit myself that much. However it would appear that today one of the drains under the information superhighway burst and leaked large amounts of virtual sewage onto Recent Changes, which made it very hard to keep up; if the community approves I guess I'd like that mop you offered me after all. I hope you'll allow me to bend the rules a little and renominate myself so shortly after my previous RfA. --[[User:Weyes|W]]([[User talk:Weyes|t]]) 18:18, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)
i really dont know if it will be appropriate to do a redirect......because its different names,its like on discogs.com , there are also two different entrances there.
===='''Support'''====
#'''Support'''. A good RC patroller who would benefit from the admin tools. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] [[User talk:Zzyzx11|(Talk)]] 05:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''; deserves the rollback button for his work on RC patrol alone. Good contributor. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus ]] [[User_talk:Antandrus|(talk) ]] 05:17, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. His contributions and grunt work far outweigh the (largely removed from context) two points being brought against him. <s>'''Tentatively neutral'''. Was there ever plain comment from ''Weyes himself'' on that "[[User talk:Ozdusters|Ozdusters]]" newbie incident? I don't like all the rhetoric from the last round's opposition, but would like to know his take.</s> [[User:Shem Daimwood|Shem]]<sup>[[User talk:Shem Daimwood|(talk)]]</sup> 06:30, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#:At length, see the comments section of the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Weyes2|old RfA]]. --[[User:Weyes|W]]([[User talk:Weyes|t]]) 05:22, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
#::Apologies and noted, I'd not read through the old page's closing comments recently. [[User:Shem Daimwood|Shem]]<sup>[[User talk:Shem Daimwood|(talk)]]</sup> 05:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#Support (and as this is likely to get long, I've added headers. I wanted to add support last time, but the file was just too damn long to edit). [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 06:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#[[User:Ingoolemo|<font color=blue>Ingoolemo</font>]] [[User_talk:Ingoolemo|<font color=blue><sup>talk</font></sup>]] 06:31, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
# Hope he makes it this time. Weyes deserves our support. This vote is also not a battleground for policy discussions. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 06:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#Support. No undeniable evidence says that I should oppose Weyes' nomination, and I have only had good experience with him in the past. He has done very good work in the WP namespace, and should be given a mop and bucket to carry out this behind-the-scenes work. [[User:Harro5|Harro5]] 06:39, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Seems to do good work. --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 06:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Yes, there are two or ten examples of Weyes having behaved more grumpy than prefered among his thousand dealings with newbies, but it's human and I think he knows when he hasn't been at his best and has learned from them. Anyway, they are very few cases that don't ruin my picture of Weyes as a hardworking, civil and well meaning wikiholic who would clearly benefit from having a mop. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 06:51, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support''' once more. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_<font color="orange">>|<</font>]] 07:48, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Same as last time. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] [[User talk:Sjakkalle|<small>(Check!)</small>]] 07:50, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. He shows an indefatigable willingness to clean up vandalism and other abuses (such as link spamming). I note some of the worries expressed by [[User:TheoClarke|Theo]] below, and I hope that Weyes will pay heed — but on the whole I think that he'll make a good admin. [[User:Mel Etitis|Mel Etitis]] ([[User talk:Mel Etitis|<font color="green">Μελ Ετητης</font>)]] 09:40, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Good RC patrol effort, and mistakes made were easily fixable newbie mistakes. [[User:Linuxbeak|Linuxbeak]] | [[User_talk:Linuxbeak|Talk]] | [[User:Linuxbeak/Desk|Desk]] 10:17, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
#'''Strong Support''' just like last time. [[User:Starblind|Andrew Lenahan - <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">St</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF5500">ar</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">bli</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FFC000">nd</FONT>]] 11:15, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support''', as before: Notwithstanding valid issues brought up at the previous vote, I have enough trust in Weyes for him to be given admin privileges. [[User:Jitse Niesen|Jitse Niesen]] 11:44, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#<u>Third</u> time now that I've voted both for and against this candidate (shush, JRM!). That actually means I voted SIX times! Which is pretty sweet, if you ask me, which I hope for. (still on break, btw, just wanted to see how his RFA was doing, and to my surprise... SIX times!). [[User:El C|El_C]] 11:56, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Support''' -- extra support for fighting link spam --[[User:Pjacobi|Pjacobi]] 13:04, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
#Still '''Support''', as per the last RFA. [[User:Guettarda|Guettarda]] 13:22, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===='''Oppose'''====
#--[[User:Boothy443|Boothy443]] | [[User talk:Boothy443|comhrÚ]] 05:21, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC), what a farce.
#: What, you mean your opposition? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 06:38, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' As per previous vote. -- [[User:JamesTeterenko|JamesTeterenko]] 05:56, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' as per reasons set out in my previous vote. -- [[User:Joolz|Joolz]] 07:24, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' because I still do not trust this candidate's judgement despite the support now and earlier by people whose opinions I respect. I note that Weyes' edit summaries have become more explanatory and I appreciate that. I also admire the good humour which he has displayed throughout this battering process. I remain concerned, however, about Weyes' tendency to remove external links wholesale and the apparent lack of doubt or reconsideration when the invalidity of a link is questioned. Similarly potentially misleading oversimplification in debate worries me. All this was covered in the [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Weyes2|previous vote]] so I will not rehash details here. I still see Weyes as a valuable industrious editor but I do not feel comfortable handing the delete button to someone with these behavioural patterns. I would be happy to support a renomination after a few months of demonstrated discussion before wholesale reversions, informative accurate edit summaries, accurate argument, and consistent courtesy.—[[User:TheoClarke|Theo ]] [[User_talk:TheoClarke|(Talk)]] 08:50, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose'''. Again. --[[User:Mrfixter|Mrfixter]] 09:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' again. Same reasons as Theo, same reasons as previous vote. I think Weyes needs more time to soften his edges and temper his judgements. --[[User:Unfocused|<FONT COLOR="#006699">Un</FONT>]][[User talk:Unfocused|focused]] 12:39, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' As stated earlier. --[[User:Newsjunkie|newsjunkie]] 13:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===='''Neutral'''====
==Babylon==
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Hi Vorash,
since you moved the Babylon page, it is now your job to fix [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Babylon all links]] that used to point to the city, and now point to the disambiguation page. Also, it would be better if you discussed moves of articles linked to by so many others beforehand. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|('''ᛏ'''</small>)]] 12:05, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
===='''Comments'''====
:can you please stop moving the bloody Babylon page around without discussing? "[[Babylon (Iraq)]] is a terrible choice -- the archaeological site may be in Iraq, but the city was, well, in Babylonia. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|('''ᛏ'''</small>)]] 16:12, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
*Everyone should read [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Weyes extended]] to discuss and understand the highly unusual "extend, extend, revote" process used in this Request for Adminship. [[User:Unfocused|<FONT COLOR="#006699">Un</FONT>]][[User talk:Unfocused|focused]] 14:03, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
*Any new users to this RFA should read [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Weyes2]] to see prior arguments in support and opposition, as they are unlikely to be reposted in full here, but are fully relevant to this nomination. [[User:Unfocused|<FONT COLOR="#006699">Un</FONT>]][[User talk:Unfocused|focused]] 14:03, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
===='''Questions for the candidate'''====
==[[Alla Pugacheva]]==
''A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:''
Thanks for starting the article, I've been pretty busy the past few months and haven't had a chance to get to the stuff on my to-do list, but you gave me the push I needed to get back in the game a little. I've rewritten most of the article, and it's now featured on the front page, in the "Did you know..." section. --[[User:Aramgutang|Aram]]'''[[User talk:Aramgutang|գուտանգ]]'''[[a|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 03:32, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:'''1.''' What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about [[Wikipedia:administrators|administrators]] and the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]].)
::'''A'''. I mainly expect to be doing RC patrol, it's kind of relaxing and you can stop and start at any time you want, which works for me. I don't think I'll become a regular maintainance page handler (like VfD, TfD, CfD, Copyvio), though I might help out incidentally if there's a large backlog to clear or something (and I should point out that I think the people that do this are doing a wonderful task at keeping Wikipedia running and are the true unsung heroes of Wikipedia).
:'''2.''' Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
::'''A'''. I haven't made any major contributions to articles (I'm not good with prose, as the metaphor above amply demonstrates), but I do think [[WP:AIV]] is becoming a useful tool to complement [[WP:VIP]].
== Another FIRSTer: Cool ==
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
::'''A'''. The most annoying conflict so far has been the one over the cleaning up of external links and what is and isn't appropriate (please join in the discussion [[WP:VPP#Wikipedia:External_links|here]]), however as with most of what I do there's no long ongoing discussion and working out compromises to be done, I can take a day off wikipedia without inconveniencing cocontributors and go play outside instead. Usually, when I come back the next day things seem a lot less important.
Hi! I'm another FIRSTer, thought I'd stop bye and say hi! --[[User:Astronouth7303|Astronouth7303]] 21:46, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==User categories==
Hi. I see that you're in quite a few user categories. Just a note that links in the category articles are sorted based on the ''full'' name of an article, which in your case is <tt>User:Vorash</tt>. But I do believe we want them sorted based on the user names alone. If you change those links to the piped form, e.g.
<nowiki>[[Category:Wikipedian musicians|Vorash]]</nowiki>
then the string "Vorash" becomes the sort key. Thanks. [[User:Ddawson|Ddawson]] 16:31, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
done[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 18:22, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
== Fabrika Zvezd ==
Can you please help me expand the article I started over at [[Star Factory]]? Thank you... [[User:Ilyanep| ]] — [[User:Ilyanep|<font color="gray">Ilγαηερ</font>]] [[User talk:Ilyanep|<font color="#333333">(Tαlκ)</font>]] 19:22, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm really sorry, but i don't have any info about this program and i never watched it before. I just knew that she participated there. [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 18:27, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
==The Bangles==
The Bangles are already listed on [[List of all-women bands]]. [[User:HelenWatt|HelenWatt]] 12:29, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
==[[Sabrina Salerno]]==
Hi, you did a copy-paste of [[Sabrina (singer)]] to [[Sabrina Salerno]] so I cleaned it up. Please use the Page Move function. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]]|[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 11:51, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
== New [[Wikipedia:LGBT noticeboard|LGBT noticeboard]]. ==
Hi, I've created a [[Wikipedia:LGBT noticeboard|LGBT noticeboard]] for wikipedians to post issues and concerns. Please take a look. Thanks. -- [[User:SamuelWantman|Samuel Wantman]] 08:19, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
== [[Stock Aitken Waterman]] ==
While I believe your reversions here were correct, you need to try to be more polite in the way you inform the user of his mistake. --[[User:InShaneee|InShaneee]] 14:39, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
THis is not a mistake !. HE knows exactly what a copyright is ! THats why he doesn't host this image on his site. He just doing a cheap advertisement of his site here on WIkipedia.[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 14:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Regardless, you still need to follow [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette|Wikiquette]]. Assume good faith, and if you have proof this guy IS a spammer, than just do what needs to be done. No need to verbally attack him! --[[User:InShaneee|InShaneee]] 17:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
== [[Wikipedia:External links]] ==
I dont understand what you doing ?? You removing almost all of 6 links on MAdonna page but leaving 20 links on Michael Jackson page and another 20 on Mariah Carey?? Thats what you call [[Wikipedia:External links]] policy ? YOu have very biased policy ![[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 23:50, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
:The external links sections of [[Michael Jackson]] and [[Mariah Carey]] need to be cleaned up too, however I can't do everything at once. I only edited them in a spam-removing spree, as you can see from my contribs. The bad state of the external links sections of those articles does not mean it's ok in other articles too. --[[User:Weyes|W]]([[User talk:Weyes|t]]) 23:55, 2005 May 27 (UTC)
::You again violating official policy that clearly states: "Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate [[Wikipedia:External link]][[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 00:13, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
:::Quite. But it continues '''In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link.''' --[[User:Weyes|W]]([[User talk:Weyes|t]]) 00:15, 2005 May 28 (UTC)
::::It clearly states "Can". !! Which means that you are doing it on purpose. Ok Fine with me USER : Weyes. I finnaly understood what you are doing ! [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 00:25, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
==[[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/North (band)]]==
Could you please explain your Keep vote? [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 21:32, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
"It claims to have made music videos prior to MTV's inception" ...what does it mean exactly ? do you have any idea ? it means that they were inventors of music video ? or what ?[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 21:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
or at least they are claiming so.....[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 21:49, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, that's the thing, the claim can't be substantiated. Their very existence can't be substantiated. So why are you voting keep? I know they didn't invent music videos, because the Beatles did one for "Strawberry Fields Forever" in the 60s. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 22:35, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
ok i will change my vote to delete.[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 22:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I wasn't really trying to argue you into anything, I just wanted to understand your vote. :) [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 04:47, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
== Cats ==
Hi, thanks for your input on the CfD page regarding the P2P cats. I have now migrated all the former articles categorized under P2P to the new cats you created, "File sharing networks" and File sharing programs".
One thing that I have noticed is that a number of Java programs, such as LimeWare, are categorized as "Free {Windows|Mac|Linux} programs. It seems to me that they should not be categorized as such but as "Free Java programs" (or not "free" as they case may be). What do you think? Is this worth changing? -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] | [[User_talk:Viajero|Talk]] 16:01, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Hmm....I see on download.com that LimeWire 4.8 for Mac OS X and LimeWire 4.8 for Windows are totally different programs even so they both use JAva and were released in a same day. LimeWire 4.8 for Mac OS X size: 4.88MB, LimeWire 4.8 Windows size: 2.33MB. [http://www.download.com/3120-20_4-0.html?qt=lime+wire&tg=dl-20 Link]......so maybe in theory programs for Java should be the same , but in practice every platform has different version. [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 16:42, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:If you look more closely at each package, you will see that the central .jar file and related Java files are the same, only the (platform dependent) install program is different, hence the variation in file size. -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] | [[User_talk:Viajero|Talk]] 18:39, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
well i don't have a MAc so i don't know how exactly i can check this, since i can't install MAc version on PC.......in any case if you say that jar files are the same ,so probably installers are different because each of them install different version of JAva Virtual Machine. I also don't understand what do you mean in writing "It is written in Java, and hence runs on any computer with Java installed." Do you really expect from average user actually to take this Jar package and to install it by hand on other computer ? [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 19:08, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
:Yes, exactly. When I was running OS/2 (before switching to Linux) I used to download the Solaris package; it was just a .tar file with the .jar file and a few config files. I unpacked it and then ran ''java --jarfile LimeWire.jar'' and that was that. LimeWire started up. In theory, that will work on any machine with Java installed. Of course, naturally it is easier for most users to download OS-specific packages which include an install program. The Linux RPM just copies the LimeWire installation to /usr/lib and puts a startup file in /usr/bin, but it is based on the very same .jar file as any other package.
:Also, keep in mind: the LimeWire packages ''do not'' include Java; users have to install that first by themselves if it is not included in their OS.
:So, you see, my text ''It is written in Java, and hence runs on any computer with Java installed.'' is quite correct. It is simply that LimeWire devs have only written installers for Win, Mac, and Linux. HTH, -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] | [[User_talk:Viajero|Talk]] 13:54, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::I am 99% certain you are wrong about the LimeWire install packages installing an OS-specific JVM, but I have written to the devs and hope to clear this up for certain. -- [[User:Viajero|Viajero]] | [[User_talk:Viajero|Talk]] 16:21, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::I've just downloaded Lime Wire and it installed Sun's JVM on my computer. What are you talking about ? I don't understand. Could you please explain ? Do you want to say that JVM PC will run on MAc????????[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 16:36, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::If you are seriously claiming that all Sun's JVMs are the same for all platforms i will not argue with you . I will aks for arbitration. Any computer programmer or computer specialist can confirm it[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 16:59, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:::: It doesn't install any Java JRE FULL 15-20mb package. I downloaded Limewire and it installed basic "J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 1" which size is aproximatly 1mb (when compressed). I also uninstalled both java and Limewire (it also deleted "Java" directory), and installed LimeWire again to be 100% sure. And again after LimeWire instalation it installs "J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 1". YOu also don't need my opinion !! YOu can uninstall Java on your computer , to download LimeWire installation and to see by yourself how it istalls JAva!![[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 17:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::It makes a sense, because if Installer doesn't install Java you will see the note on download.com about "Java" requirements. Download.com will not publish any software that requires additional uncommon software components, without prior warning. See by yourself - programs that require java have in their "Minimum requirements" "Java Development Kit" note on download.com. [http://www.download.com/ICQ-for-Java/3000-2150_4-884234.html?tag=lst-4-20 Link1] ,but [http://www.download.com/LimeWire/3000-2166_4-10371380.html?tag=lst-0-2 LimeWire 4.8 dosn't have this note] in "Minimum requirements". [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 20:12, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::::Hmm......and finally : [http://www.limewire.com/english/content/ug_installation.shtml Limewire on its site claims, that Windows installer includes JRE] :)))[[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 21:50, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== [[WP:Israel]] & [[WP:WNBI]] ==
Привет Vorash, I thought you might be interested, please consider yourself invited. Spread the word. [[User:Humus sapiens|<nowiki></nowiki>]]←[[User:Humus sapiens|Humus sapiens]]←[[User talk:Humus_sapiens|Talk]] 08:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== Please help with Rishon-LeZion ==
Я всё-таки по-русски спрошу, если ты не возражаешь.
В каком всё-таки округе находится город [[Rishon-LeZion]] (и ещё там есть несколько таких сомнительных городов около Тель-Авива)? В статье [[List of cities in Israel]] написано, что в центральном, а по другим данным в Тель-Авивском. Может ты знаешь? --[[User:.:Ajvol:.|ajvol]] 21:59, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Chestno tibe skaju, ia pro Tel-Aviv district uslishal vpervie zdes na wikipedii.... V samom izraile nikogda o takom districte ne slishal. Ia znaiu chto iest [[Gush Dan]] i Central district ,a chto eto takoie "Tel-Aviv district" ia ne znaiu. No iesli oni tut pishut chto Rishon-Lezion otnositsia k "Central Disrtict" naverno oni znaiut.... [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 22:35, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
:Umenya est' informaciya, cxho paru let nazad bila reforma v hode kotoroj "Tel-Aviv district" pereimenovali v "Gush Dan district" i rasshirili ego, vkluchiv neskolko gorodov (v tom chisle Rishon-LeZion). No ya nigde ne mogu nayti etomu podtverzhdeniya. Moxhen v ivritskoj versii stat'i? Ili na oficialnom sayte Rishon-LeZion? --[[User:.:Ajvol:.|ajvol]] 07:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
::Na saite Ministerstva Obrazovania Izrailia dannie takie je kak i v wikipedii - Rishon otnositstia k "Central District". Vot Goroda iz "Central District": http://www.education.gov.il/merkaz/ataray_rashot.htm , a vot Goroda iz "Tel-Aviv District":http://cms.education.gov.il/EducationCMS/UNITS/TelAviv/ [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 12:36, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) Na oficialnom sayte Rishon-LeZiona nikakoi infi netu.. [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 13:31, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
== Madonna ==
Why did you change my career achievements list back? MY VERSION is PERFECT! Is there a problem? [[User:MadonnaBoy|MadonnaBoy]] 20:02, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Please don't lengthen the LISt, its already long enough !!! THere is no need to make it much longer !! [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 20:07, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I WROTE THAT LIST LAST YEAR AND I POSTED IT HERE UNDER THE USERNAME MADONNAFAN, I HAD TO CHANGE USERNAMES (I switched internet providers, e-mail, and have a different computer now) AND I CAME BACK HERE YESTERDAY AND SAW THAT IT HAD BEEN CHOPED TO HELL. THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH IT'S LENGTH UNTIL YOU CAME ALONG, PLEASE RETURN IT TO IT'S FORMER GLORY!
Sorry for the ranting but I'm mad, and where is the Guiness book fact? Please change it back to my version!!! Please???? [[User:MadonnaBoy|MadonnaBoy]] 20:29, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I will restore now all facts that you added including "Guiness book" but we should try to keep this list as short as possible, otherwise it will be moved to separate page . [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 20:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
We also don't know for sure who is the biggest selling female music artist. See more ditails here [[Biggest-selling female musician]]. [[User:Vorash|Vorash]] 21:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
==making music==
Hey, I saw your listed on Wikipedian-musicians. What kind of stuff do you make and what do you use to create it? If you can send me an mp3 that would be cool too. I try to make some music when I have time, using Reason. - [[User:Milk|Milk]] 01:14, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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