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The article refers to the company as Nintendo Software Technology Corporation, however I am fairly confident that NSTC is in fact a subsidiary of Nintendo Corporation. Can anybody verify which is correct? [[User:Dan Mazurowski|Dan Mazurowski]] 27-Sep-2003

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:I have verified that NSTC is in fact a wholly owned subsidiary of Nintendo Company Limited. NSTC is an in-house software devloper. [[User:Dan Mazurowski|Dan Mazurowski]] 01-Oct-2003

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Game & Watch is actually older than Donkey Kong. It is a long series, and still on-going, with the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance games being the most recent. -- [[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]]

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If it's exclusive to Nintendo, how come [http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/04/21/news_6094115.html it's been announced] for [[PS2]]? [[User:Tom-|Tom-]] 16:46, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

# Move it to the bottom of the list.

:Hm. I'd still point out that VJ1 was exclusive. Still, do what you want. Maybe this calls for [[List of Gamecube exclusive titles]] [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 18:11, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

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==General lists==

== Content Policies ==

Is there anywhere a full listing of all the subjects that Nintendo of America banned from games prior to 1994? Most are mentioned in the article, but I know that there are a few more things that weren't allowed, such as Nazis and related subjects. --[[User:Paul Soth|Paul Soth]] 17:07, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

# [[Tudor]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Tudor|links]])

# [[SAS]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/SAS|links]])

# [[Naxos]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Naxos|links]])

# [[Commodore]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Commodore|links]])

# [[Nike]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Nike|links]])

# [[Hebrew]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Hebrew|links]])

# [[Billboard]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Billboard|links]])

# [[Attu]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Attu|links]])

# [[Ani]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Ani|links]])

# [[Hui]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Hui|links]])

# [[Palestine]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Palestine|links]])

# [[Orlando]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Orlando|links]])

# [[MVP]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/MVP|links]])

# [[Arian]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Arian|links]])

# [[Hausa]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Hausa|links]])

# [[Fittipaldi]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Fittipaldi|links]])

# [[German]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/German|links]])

# [[Gotha]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gotha|links]])

# [[Batavia]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Batavia|links]])

# [[Oakland]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Oakland|links]])

# [[Greek (disambiguation)|Greek]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Greek|links]])

# [[British (disambiguation)|British]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/British|links]])

# [[Disney (disambiguation)|Disney]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Disney|links]])

# [[America]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/America|links]])

# [[WBA]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/WBA|links]])

# [[Vietnamese]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Vietnamese|links]])

# [[Queen]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Queen|links]] )

# [[XX]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/XX|links]] )

# [[McLaren]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/McLaren|links]] )

# [[Hittite]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Hittite|links]] )

# [[Saul]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Saul|links]] )

# [[Isfahan]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Isfahan|links]] )

# [[Union]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Union|links]] )

# [[Gujarati]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Gujarati|links]] )

# [[Mercedes]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Mercedes|links]] )

# [[Dragnet]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Dragnet|links]] )

# [[Spring]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Spring|links]] )

# [[MEP]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/MEP|links]] )

# [[Caesar]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Caesar|links]] )

# [[Cleavage]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Cleavage|links]] )

# [[Rock]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Rock|links]] )

# [[Scandinavian]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Scandinavian|links]] )

# [[Vulcan]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Vulcan|links]] )

# [[BA]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/BA|links]] )

# [[Shannon]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Shannon|links]] )

# [[Ainu]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Ainu|links]] )

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# [[King]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/King|links]] )

# [[Yamaha]] ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Yamaha|links]] )

==Specific lists==

I'm interested in this quote:

"Among the banned subject matter was the appearance of blood, gore, nudity, ''religious icons (such as crosses)''..." however, Castlevania did have crosses, quite predominantly throughout the series. Is the author of this section sure that all religious icons were banned from Nintendo's games? --Sam Peterson 8/29/2004 PST.

For reference in disambiguating abbreviations in "Politics of" articles, see [[Abbreviations used in CIA World Factbook]].

* Ok, I don't have time to edit this down, but here is the list according to a old manual I found in the office. This is not a comprohensive list, but it's the major points in the manual.

The following disambiguation pages are linked to frequently, and need monitoring.

The following Game Content Guidelines are presented for assistance in the development of authorized game paks (i.e., both Nintendo and licensee game paks) by defining the type of content and themes inconsistent with Nintendo's corporate and marketing philosophy. Although exceptions may be made to preserve the content of a game, Nintendo will not approve games for the NES, Game Boy or Super NES systems (i.e., audio-visual work, packaging, and instruction manuals) which:

#[[Roman]]

#[[Finnish]]

#[[French]]

#[[German]]

#[[Irish]]

#[[Italian]]

#[[Japanese]]

#[[Mohawk]]

#[[Norwegian]]

#[[Turkish]]

Also note that, although not a disambiguation page, the page for [[American]] relates to the use of the word ''American'' and is not an article about the people of America; most articles linking to this page should probably be re-linked either to [[United States]] or to [[The Americas]].

• include sexually suggestive or explicit content including rape and/or nudity; (1)

A few [[Wikipedia:Non-unique personal names|Non-unique personal names]]:

• contain language or depiction which specifically denigrates members of either sex; (2)

#[[Robert Bradford]]

#[[Rosemary Brown]]

#[[Thomas Henry Burke]]

#[[Lon Chaney]]

#[[Donald Davidson]]

#[[Glenn Davis]]

#[[Jim Davis]]

#[[Donald Wills Douglas]]

#[[William Fox]]

#[[John Hayes]]

#[[Tim Healy]]

#[[Grant Hill]]

#[[John Holmes]]

#[[George Jessel]]

#[[Paul Johnson]]

#[[Jenny Jones]]

#[[Randy Jones]]

#[[Steve Jones]]

#[[Henry Kaiser]]

#[[William Kennedy]]

#[[John Moores]]

#[[Don Murray]]

#[[Michael O'Leary]]

#[[Eddie Perez]]

#[[Charles Russell]]

#[[David Smith]]

#[[Carlos Valderrama]]

#[[Robert Walser]]

#[[Betty Williams]]

#[[Charles Pinckney]]

#[[John Stanley]]

#[[William Phillips]]

#[[John Bennett]]

#[[Richard Russell]]

#[[Stephen Bishop]]

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• depict random, gratuitous, and/or excessive violence; (3)

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• depict graphic illustration of death; (4)

• depict domestic violence and/or abuse; (5)

• depict excessive force in a sports game beyond what is inherent in actual contact sports; (6)

• reflect ethnic, religious, nationalistic, or sexual stereotypes of language;

this includes symbols that are related to any type of racial, religious, nationalistic,

or ethnic group, such as crosses, pentagrams, God, Gods (Roman mythological gods are acceptable),

Satan, hell, Buddha; (7)

• use profanity or obscenity in any form or incorporate language or gestures that

could be offensive by prevailing public standards and tastes; (8)

• incorporate or encourage the use of illegal drugs, smoking materials, and/or alcohol

(Nintendo does not allow a beer or cigarette ad to be placed on an arena, stadium or playing field wall,

or fence in a sports game); (9)

• include subliminal political messages or overt political statements (10)

:This is a good guide: http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Nintendo.php --[[User:Paul Soth|Paul Soth]] 21:55, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

::Ah yeah, I added that link to the article. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] | [[User talk:Fredrik|talk]] 23:15, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

== anti trust case ==

" By the end of the 1980's the courts found Nintendo guilty of anti-trust activities because it had abused its relationship with 3rd party developers and created a monopoly in the gaming industry by forcing developers not to make games for any other platforms"

The courts of which country? I persume the US from the context in the article, but it would be useful to clarify.

== Emulation policies ==

"Nintendo is known for hard-line stance against emulation of its video game consoles."

This is false... ask the average person on the street about Nintendo and see if they mention emulation.

The wording in this section is awfully sympathetic towards electronic pirates, as if their stance was a defensible one. It makes it seem as if Nintendo were unusual among corporations for taking a "hard line stance" against emulation, when in fact the existence of laws in the US and abroad such as the DMCA make it clear that Nintendo's position is the default. Considering that no other competitors from the era they're repackaging games from still exist as console manufacturers, they might be the only ones currently concerned with combatting the specific issue right now, but don't think Sony and Microsoft don't share the exact same position. Nintendo is being singled out here on the sole basis of their popularity and resilience - people want to emulate Nintendo games the most, so they're the biggest opposition.

"Until mid-2002, the company also claimed that emulators have no use other than to play pirated video games, contested by some who say emulators such as LoopyNES (for NES) and VisualBoyAdvance (for GBA) have been used to develop and test independently produced software."

Nintendo targets specific emulators and very specific emulator configurations, so this is a fallacy. The one that made them go "hard line" against the "emulation community" was the Nintendo 64 emulator which not only required cracked (i.e. the anti-piracy mechanism was circumvented) roms, but had no dev kit available. Yes, that emulator had no other use than to play pirated games... sorry, but Nintendo was right.

I understand why software pirates resent companies that take measures to counter their illegal activities - obviously they want the parade of "free" software to keep coming their way - but underhanded criticism of Nintendo for self-preservation is unwarranted here, imo.

:It's not false, they are indeed known for their stance... however, I agree we should change the wording. As for dev kits, you don't know that they weren't in development. Under U.S. law, emulators themselves are legal, and that's what this is saying regarding Nintendo: they generally have a tough stance toward emulation. Also, keep in mind people like [[Capcom]] use emulators in legitimate games, like [[Mega Man]] Anniversary Collection. [[User:Andrevan|Andre]] 19:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:I've changed it a bit, see how you like it. [[User:Andrevan|Andre]] 19:20, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

:: I'm still unclear on why Nintendo's emulation policies are worthy of distinguishment when they are apparently the norm.

:::Nintendo is much more agressive in prosecuting than the average video game company. --[[User:PSzalapski|Locarno]] 13:03, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

::::I covered this before, but maybe you don't agree. It seems to me that the reason they're "much more aggressive" than the average (hardware + software) game company is because they're one of a slim minority that has survived long enough to have a valuable library of old games and hardware worth preserving. Their "stance" or "position" on emulation is NOT unusual. Their "actions" regarding emulation might be considered so, but that's only because the other current, large game (hardware + software) manufacturers don't have much to enforce against, yet.

:::::Regardless of their reasons for their stance, they are a lot more vigilant about emulation and such. [[User:Andrevan|Andre]] 19:07, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

::::::The point being, their increased vigilance relative to other companies is also relative to longevity and available library. While it may be a logically true statement, the distinction in reality is a phantom of incomplete information. You may as well add a note to the Microsoft article claiming that MS is known for its stance against operating system piracy. True, but meaningless, considering their market dominance. Sony, et al. -- in ratio -- are no different than Nintendo.

:::::::While you are right on some level when it comes to comparing Nintendo to Sony or Microsoft, your assertion doesn't hold water when comparing Nintendo to historical market peers [[Sega]] or [[Atari]], or arcade counterparts [[Namco]], who do have properties of similar longevity but are not as vigilant in defending them against pirates. Although none of these companies manufacture game-playing hardware, they are in much the same situation as Nintendo as far as software emulation is concerned. However, Nintendo's stance is by far the most aggressive - not that this is bad, or undesirable, but it's the reality nonetheless. Nintendo's stance is also the antithesis of smaller, pro-emulation game companies such as [[Toys For Bob]] (makers of [[Star Control II]]). Whatever the motivation for Nintendo's stance, it deserves to be elucidated in the article. Now, don't get me wrong - I'm more or less a Nintendo fanboy, and I don't think the company is evil for protecting its intellectual property. However, I don't want to strip information from this article under the guise of "NPOV." [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]]) 16:06, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)

== History before 1950? ==

A while ago I remember reading about the history of Nintendo all the way back to its founding in 1889. Where did it go?

--[[User:Gutterball1219|Gutterball1219]] 01:24, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Did you check through the article's [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Nintendo&action=history history]? Sometimes good chunks of articles are deleted by mistake when they're edited. I know there's probably hundreds of edits to go through and that it's tedious, but it's the only way I can think of to find that info.<BR>--[[User:TorreFernando|Fern]] 14:49, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

While in Japan years ago I happened to photograph the origional Nintendo building, which bares a Plaque. [http://rubin.simulatedplanet.org/index.php?set_albumName=japan&id=aaf&option=com_gallery&Itemid=41&include=view_photo.php]

I was told that the cards were illegal when they first started, so the company started under ground. Feel free to work this image into wikipedia. I didn't because the page is pretty long as it is.

== Game Boy Evolution ==

This is an unsubstantiated rumor and should not be on this article. I've listed it for deletion. [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]]) 21:04, Jan 2, 2005 (UTC)

: P.J. McNealy has said that he expects a new Game Boy this year. The codename for the next Game Boy is Evolution, though... mabye readd this?

::Negative. Nothing official. Wikipedia is not meant to gather rumors from across the internet. I honestly doubt they'll have another GB come out this year (more likely next year), but regardless if they have anything for this year, you'll know at E3. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 06:54, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

==History==

It seems to me that the sections "Rise of TV consoles", "1990-1995", "1995-2001", "2001-present" should be sub-sections of "History". A lot of the new content to the history section is also duplicated, parts like the date of NES/SNES being launched and so on. I'd do it myself, but since I'm not a main contributor to the article, I don't want to make some huge change to it that no one agrees with. Probably should be thought out and discussed anyway. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 04:17, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

:<s>That sounds good to me.</s> I was kind of half asleep while writing the history section, so sorry for the huge amount of mistakes I made. [[User:Oven Fresh| &#9999; <font color="#429717">Oven</font><font color="#002bb8">Fresh</font>]][[User Talk:Oven Fresh|<font size="5">&#9786;</font>]] 21:56, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

::I've changed my mind: these areas are those that are detailing the consoles themselves. Perhaps some information in them should be moved into History, but do not removed them. [[User:Oven Fresh| &#9999; <font color="#429717">Oven</font><font color="#002bb8">Fresh</font>]][[User Talk:Oven Fresh|<font size="5">&#9786;</font>]] 21:05, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

::: a LOT would need to be moved into history, and this entire section re-written if you do it like that. Most of the text in each "console" doesn't have much to do with the console, but eithe Nintendo's competitors or their own policies and strategy. [[User:Terrapin|Terrapin]] 21:48, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

==What does DS stand for==

According to Nintendo it stands for '''D'''eveloper '''S'''ystem. On the Nintendo DS FAQ page it specifically asks the question. Here's Nintendo's reply:

*''What does "DS" stand for?

:To our developers, it stands for "Developers' System," since we believe it gives game creators brand new tools which will lead to more innovative games for the worlds' players.

:It can also stand for "Dual Screen."''

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/ds/faq.jsp

Also using Google to see which is true is unfair in this situation since the main feature of DS is the "dual screen". [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 16:45, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

:Frankly I think that Dual Screen is the real one, and Nintendo is just using Developer's System to play up that feature to the developers and the press. [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]]) 20:15, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

::Well, I don't see the problem in listing both. I'm just going by what Nintendo claims. Had I not read that yesterday (even I questioned its legitimacy), I would have agreed with leaving it as Dual Screen. If you can find another source at Nintendo claiming it stands for Dual Screen (primarily), I'd be happy to rewrite the statement. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 20:39, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)

:The DS stands for Dual Screen, period. The "developers' system" was just a statement to attract developers. [[User:Oven Fresh| &#9999; <font color="#429717">Oven</font><font color="#002bb8">Fresh</font>]][[User Talk:Oven Fresh|<font size="5">&#9786;</font>]] 22:05, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

::Then you need to specifically state that for consumers it's Dual Screen and for developers it's Developers System" because no where on Nintendo's website or the official DS website does it say anything about standing for Dual Screen (except for what I found, show above). Odd how you say it was to attract developers, but yet the information provided is on a FAQ for Customer Service, don't you think? It needs to be clarified rather leaving it how it is now. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 01:19, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

:: Press have contacted Nintendo and the response is that it can stand for BOTH "Developer's System" and "Dual Screen".

==Nintendo translation and recent revert==

I reverted the recent edit due some nonsensical edits such as the structure of the article branching consoles into "Home consoles" etc. Generally handheld portables are not considered consoles at all. In fact the section should be changed to "Handheld systems".

Also the translation of the word "Nintendo" that was added is totally unfounded and is not a shared translation from other resources. I've seen everything from:

*"Leave luck to heaven."

*"Deep in the mind we have to do whatever we have to do."

*"Work hard, but in the end it's in heaven's hands."

*"Heaven's Hands shop"

and now the recent addition. First of all because there is no definitive translation found anywhere on the internet, I recommend the entire part about what Nintendo means in Japanese to be removed from the intro and moved to another section where this can be explained further. It, in my opinion, totally distracts from the article to begin with the name then go into a hodgepodge of unfounded, non-definitive (and to be frank) crap. I'd also remove what they were and get down to what they are. Leave the article to explain what they were, more in-depth to what they are, and how they got there. The intro needs to be reworked. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 05:54, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

-- I also believe that a section on what Nintendo means could be benificial... I was the one who added the part in about it's meaning as a commitiment to excellence.

== Recent Edits ==

I have added information to people (Howard Lincoln / Reginald Fils-Aime). There is a page all about Mr. Fils-Aime... and that is linked.

As far as Revolution goes... should there be a new section for it when all that is known is that Nintendo is working on it... and then rumors?

:[[Project Revolution]] has its own page. Don't add too much information here. Actually, until it's officially announced (meaning shown off - meaning E3), I would say add nothing here besides what you already added. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 06:47, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

==Why Reverting?==

Why does this page keep getting reverted whenever information is added that is benificial? If there is bad info... remove it and leave the good info.

:No one reverted. Look at the history. In fact look at your latest addition - you added Howard Lincoln and Reggie twice. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 04:52, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

:: What do you think about adding a section about the meaning of "Nintendo"? I would make one, but no sense in it if someone is just going to delete it.

:::Not right now, I'd rather wait for more discussion on what I wrote. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 05:39, Mar 5, 2005 (UTC)

== People Section ==

I have made bio-stub pages for some of the people in the "people" section. Thanks K1Bond007 for updating my George Harrison link (I was about to do and and saw someone else already did.)