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The '''Whetstone benchmark''' is a [[Benchmark (computing)|benchmark]] for evaluating the power of [[computer]]s. It was first written in [[Algol 60]] in [[1972]] at the [[National Physical Laboratory]] in the [[United Kingdom]] and derived from statistics on program behaviour gathered on the [[KDF9]] computer, using a modified version of its Whetstone Algol 60 compiler. The program's behavior replicated that of a typical KDF9 scientific program and was designed to defeat compiler optimizations that would have adversely affected the accuracy of this model.
This is a poll that would decide whether a disclaimer would be or not used in wikipedia articles that mention the name of the country [[Republic of Macedonia]]. The result of this poll should affect all articles in Wikipedia that include the name of the [[Republic of Macedonia]]. [[User:Bogdangiusca|bogdan]] | [[User talk:Bogdangiusca|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:00, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
: And I think there is a consensus that this discussion is about articles other than [[Republic of Macedonia]] itself; that article is no doubt hotly contested too, but let's deal with one thing at a time. --[[User:Cjnm|Cjnm]] 10:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
The Whetstone benchmark originally measured computing power in units of ''kilo-Whetstone Instructions per seconds'' (kWIPS). Results for a variety of languages, compilers and system architectures have been obtained and modern workstations typically achieve more than 1 000 000 kWIPS (1 [[Giga]]-WIPS).
The disclaimer is currently in use among others in the articles:
#[[Macedonian denar]] (after more than 20 reversions, the page was locked)
#[[Skopje]]
#[[Vardar]]
#[[Balkans]]
#[[Macedonia (Greece)]]
#[[Geography of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[List of political parties in the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[:Category:Political parties in Macedonia]]
#[[:Category:Rivers of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[:Category:Lakes of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[:Category:Geography of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[Politics of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[Flag of the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[Elections in the Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[2004 presidential election in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia]]
#[[Demographic history of Macedonia]]
#[[Macedonian Orthodox Church]]
#[[Macedonian language]]
#[[Macedonian Slavs]]
#[[Today Over Macedonia]]
#[[Lake Prespa]]
The Whetstone benchmark primarily measures the [[floating-point arithmetic]] performance. A similar benchmark for integer and string operations is the [[Dhrystone]].
Its current text is:
<div style="background-color:#EAEAEA">
'''Note'''
The Whetstone and Dhrystone have recently found some usage in the [[Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing]] project which uses them for its benchmarks.
{{Macedonian naming dispute}}
</div>
==For the disclaimer==
The disclaimer should be put in articles that contain the name of the [[Republic of Macedonia]].
== External links ==
*[[User:Theathenae|Theathenae]]
*[[User:Odysseas|Odysseas]]
*[[User:Odysseas|Colossus]]
*[[User:Chronographos|Chronographos]] (any other course of action would violate NPOV, as it would aid monopolization of [[Macedonia]] on behalf of [[FYROM]]. Bear in mind that the Greek province of Macedonia incorporates the majority of both area and population of geographical Macedonia)
::As I have said before, the lamentable-quality article [[Culture of Macedonia]] portrays the typical POV that [[FYROM]] editors try to impose: reducing the 2500-year long history and culture of [[Macedonia]] to something that pertains to their country exclusively, and monopolizing all [[Macedonia]] word derivatives in the process. It remains to be seen whether Wikipedia can prevent this, within its own scope. Judging by the fact that a Wikipedia Trustee voted the way she did, it seems that Wikipedia cannot, or rather '''will not''', which is worse. [[User:Chronographos|Chronographos]] 14:09, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
* [http://www.cse.clrc.ac.uk/disco/Benchmarks/whetstone.shtml CCLRC: The Whetstone Benchmark]
== References ==
*[[User:Matia.gr|MATIA]] (this disclaimer conforms with the principles of wikipedia)
*[[User:Vergina|Vergina]].The name [[Republic of Macedonia]] is a falsification for the Slavic peoples!It is a imitation of Hellenism and included 2500 years Greek history of Macedonia.This is the reason why the name "Republic of Macedonia" is an international dispute.
* H. J. Curnow and B. A. Wichman, ''A Synthetic Benchmark'', Computer Journal, Vol. 19 #1, February 1976
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==Against the disclaimer==
The disclaimer '''should not''' be used in articles as the information on the dispute is available by simply clicking the [[Republic of Macedonia]] link.
[[Category:Computer benchmarks]]
*[[User:Naive cynic|Naive cynic]] (see [[Talk:Macedonian denar]])
*[[User:Bogdangiusca|Bogdan Giuşcă]] (see [[Talk:Macedonian denar]])
*[[User:Angela|Angela]] (see [[Talk:Macedonian denar]])
*[[User:Superm401|Superm401]]. We should use the more popular term and not trouble ourselves over the Greeks not liking it. [[User:Superm401|Superm401]] | [[User_talk:Superm401|Talk]] 19:18, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
*[[User:Moravice|Moravice]] (Completely unnecesary. The disclaimer is already accesibel and is anyway rather obvious. An encyklopedia can't bother to make a disclaimer for every dispute it covers)
*[[User:VKokielov|VKokielov]] This is an insult. An insult, nothing less. Imagine writing under [[Yigal Amir]]: "we do not pretend to judge his marriage", or under [[abortion]]: "we do not pretend to judge [[Eric Rudolph]]". Believe me, for the Macedonians it's enough that their country is called FYROM and that there are signs to "Yugoslavia" south of the border.
* [[User:80.255|80.255]] Unnecessary. Bending over backward to avoid every conceivable POV is tantamount to creating a new POV. When we start putting disclaimers like this all over the place, the abyss it certainly staring back at us!
* [[User:Cjnm]] (see [[Talk:Macedonian denar]]). However I don't think in this case a poll is particularly helpful. I would suggest those who feel strongly about this because they live in the area would do best to stand back from the discussion, try to gauge what the consensus is among uninvolved editors, and go along with it even if you personally disagree with it.
** You lay far too much on the human race. The uninvolved editors are small in number and apathetic. It's always that way, even in an academic project like Wikipedia. No; the locals have to defend their positions, with all due zeal but for the sake of whoever decides, and not like animals. --[[User:VKokielov|VKokielov]] 17:05, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
:::I disagree - you would actually be far more effective if you are able to show that what you are proposing is widely supported by those who are not local or passionately involved. I'd say the same to those who feel strongly the other way. --[[User:Cjnm|Cjnm]] 09:53, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
::::Don't you know that old maxim, the third fellow gets beat up? That is, if you try to get in the middle of a fight, you'd be beaten up and the two sides will continue fighting? There's nothing barbarian in that; it's the essence of human nature, even if we idiots sitting in front of our computers (speaking figuratively, of course) don't understand it. That is, the least disinterested parties ought to convince the rest of us. We, unfortunately, don't have neutral experts, and neutral quacks, for all their abundance, don't do us any good...--[[User:VKokielov|VKokielov]] 22:03, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
*I am not local; I am neither Greek nor Macedonian. I have watched this battle, and I conclude the disclaimer, while obstensibly NPOV in itself, is being pushed in a POV and nationalistic way. [[User:Jonathunder|Jonathunder]] 19:05, 2005 August 23 (UTC)
::Feel free to rephrase it it in a way that its inherent NPOV quality eclipses our "nationalistic" ways [[User:Chronographos|Chronographos]] 14:12, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
:::As below, "Alternative wording." [[User:Dell Adams|Dell Adams]] 10:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
*[[User:Dell Adams|Dell Adams]] 10:27, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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== Neutral/Abstain ==
[[es:Whetstone]]
* [[User:Joy|Joy <small><small>[shallot]</small></small>]] 20:36, 20 August 2005 (UTC) (does nobody think of us neutrals?! :)
* [[User:FlavrSavr|FlavrSavr]] - this is ridicilous. Not only I am '''against the disclaimer''', I am also '''against this poll''' as a means to solve this "problem", and it will only serve as a legitimization of the Greek POV. (Is it a surprise that all of the "For" votes are given by ethnic Greeks?). I'll try to further elaborate my reasons in the corresponding [[Talk:Macedonian denar|talk page]]. (I agree that it should be left on the [[Republic of Macedonia]] article, as Alex pointed below)
*[[User:Decius|Alex]] 04:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC) - The disclaimer should remain on the [[Republic of Macedonia]] article as long as the name of the country is officially disputed. As for whether it should be placed in other articles (which is the subject of this poll), I have no comment.
*[[User:Nightstallion|—]] [[Image:Austria_flag_large.png|15px]] [[User:Nightstallion|ナイトスタリオン]] <sub>[[User_talk:Nightstallion|ㇳ–ㇰ]]</sub> [[Special:Watchlist|—]] 22:26, 21 August 2005 (UTC) - I agree completely with FlavrSavr.
==Alternative wording==
I don't myself see that the "disclaimer" is needed in all these articles. But if we were to keep a footnote like this, I'd like to suggest a much better form of words: ''"[[Republic of Macedonia]]" and related terms are the subject of a [[Foreign relations of the Republic of Macedonia#Naming dispute with Greece|naming dispute with Greece]]"''. This would be just as effective and much less intrusive where the article itself has little to do with the naming dispute. I'd welcome views on this wording (preferably brief ones) - independent of the vote above about whether to have a footnote at all. --[[User:Cjnm|Cjnm]] 10:25, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
*Agreed. I am rather uncomfortable with the word "official" myself, it's un-WikiPedia-like [[User:Chronographos|Chronographos]] 12:38, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
*Fine by me. The sole purpose of the disclaimer is to state the ''fact'', not the ''opinion'' (as some here have tried to claim), that the name is a matter of international dispute. It ''is''; it's not just "the Greeks" who ''think'' it is. Indeed, it is those who wish to remove the disclaimer who are trying to push their ''opinion'' that the dispute should be swept under the carpet and Greek objections ignored. So much for neutrality.--[[User:Theathenae|Theathenae]] 16:30, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
*This wording actually accomplishes Theathenae's purpose, while the existing disclaimer does '''not'''. Wikipedia doesn't take "official positions", and no one thinks it does.--[[User:Dell Adams|Dell Adams]] 10:31, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
* I disagree with this template altogether. The dispute should not be mentioned everywhere, but only in the articles where it is relevant, like [[Republic of Macedonia]]. [[User:Bogdangiusca|bogdan]] | [[User talk:Bogdangiusca|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 12:13, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
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