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<big>'''The vote is over, this page is no longer live.'''</big>
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The Wikibooks logo will be chosen using [[w:approval voting|approval voting]]. The vote will last '''from September 8 to September 21'''. '''You may vote for as many logos as you like, but cannot vote against a logo'''. The top three to five ideas will move to the second stage. Anyone may vote, but must use either a Meta account, or provide a link to their accounts on another project.
At this stage in the voting, only choose the idea which you prefer; the exact variant will be chosen in the second stage of voting. Votes are tallied in the "Votes" subsections underneath each of the proposals on this page. (See the table of contents below, or the [[#Gallery|Gallery]].) To leave a vote, write <code><nowiki># {{support}}</nowiki></code> in one or more of these sections, followed by an optional message, followed by your signature or a link to your userpage on another project.
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{{current logo discussion}}
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=Discussion=
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I could defend my idea further, but realise now that without <s>a sketch</s> a good sketch that would be talking in vain. [[User:Ramir|Ramir]] 12:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
:Aye. We need '''sketches''', folks, '''sketches'''... <
What about the SVG of the book stack with the Wikipedia logo instead of the "atom"?--[[:en:User:HereToHelp|HereToHelp]] ([[:en:User talk:HereToHelp|talk]]) 01:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
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Image:Wikibooks-logo-en.png|the current logo
Image:Wbooks.png|#14 [[User:Aldenis]]
Image:Wikibooks logo Diego UFCG 2.PNG
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Simple, international, works really well. [[User:64.252.33.106|64.252.33.106]] 04:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (4)===
# [[User:Kipmaster|Kipmaster]] 19:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{Support}} ''[[User:Minun|<font color="#ff0000;">M</font><font color="green">in</font><font color="#ffcc00;">un</font>]]'' <sup>[[User talk:Minun|<font color="#ffcc00;">''Spiderman''</font>]]</sup> 12:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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:::Brilliant - this is my favourite logo at the moment. I disagree with Nightstallion though, I think that would be too complicated. [[User:Dbmag9|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Dbmag9|‽]]) <small>Check out [[Wikiscope]]!</small> 17:53, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
::::Just to clarify, he means Smurrayinchester's suggestion. <
:::::Yes, this is right. Sorry. [[User:Dbmag9|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Dbmag9|‽]]) <small>Check out [[Wikiscope]]!</small> 11:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
::::::No problem, no harm done. <
:I like 2a the most. Just a suggestion, could we try 2a with a thicker circle? (something closer to matching wikimedia/species/commons). Good stuff already though, might be better left as it is. -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 01:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
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:Nice logo! [[User:Ek7|Ek7]] 14:03, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
:I prefer this --[
::2a and 2b are both great. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 08:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
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Looks strict and discouraging to me. Would scare me off rather than invite me. Am I the only one chicken-hearted? [[User:Mainzelmann|Mainzelmann]] 20:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (23)===
#{{support}} Simple, but still nice. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} —[[User:SCriBu|SCriBu]] [[User talk:SCriBu|<sup>msg</sup>]] 17:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#'''Support''' [[User:Feydey|Feydey]] 00:51, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:Philbert2.71828|Philbert<sup><
#{{support}} [[User:Dante, the Wicked|Dante, the Wicked]] 04:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} #2a.2 and #2b--[[User:Shizhao|Shizhao]] 06:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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# {{support}} [[User:Tk|Tk]] 14:22, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} [[User:Ruzgar|Ruzgar]] 17:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} [[Wikipedia:User:Bduttabaruah|BDB]] 16:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} [[de:w:User:Schildwaechter|Schildwaechter]] 17:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
==#3 (Stack of books)==
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:The first and the second ones are almost identical to the logo of the swiss pharmaceutical firm Serono (www.serono.com). [[User:w:it:Sergiodf]]
===Votes (13)===
#{{Support}} --[[User:Shizhao|Shizhao]] 06:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[w:User:NorkNork|NorkNork]]
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#{{support}} [[w:User:ADAMGRIMSLEY|ADAMGRIMSLEY]]
#{{support}} --[[User:Urby2004|Urby2004]] 18:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{Support}} --[[User:H.sanat|H.sanat]] 12:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{Support}} -- [[Wikipedia:User:Bduttabaruah|BDB]]
==#4 (Logotype concept)==
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::In fact, *I* was going to propose a new logo for Wikibooks some time soon... Ah well. Here goes nothing, I wanted to wait 'til I had a sketch, but...
::Take a look at [
: I'm not convinced by Ramir's proposal: the idea is too complicated. Please note that we need logo to be easily recognised even in a small size, like in [[w:pl:Template:Wikibooks]] (32x32px), not to forget about 16x16px size which we need as a favicon (the icon you see in your browser near page title at current tab/window). With too many details it would be hard to scale down the logo.
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:::: Sounds fair enough to me... —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 12:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
::I like the idea of using something similar to [
===Votes (0)===
==#5 (Sketchy books)==
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Well... it is the first rough-roughity-rough-rough sketch. Even I don’t like it, but! the real thing, drawn properly on a computer, will be 88 times as good, both in composition (all angles, sizes will be perfect) and in rendering. And even now the new version is better, both from my personal and objective perspecitve (see above). [[User:Ramir|Ramir]] 05:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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:I personally think it's a bit too complicated, but it's certainly stylistically better than the current one. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:03, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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: This was me. [[User:Ramir|Ramir]] 00:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (for #5) (16)===
# {{support}} -- For the reasons I put foreward above. An interesting logo for an interesting project. [[User:SB Johnny|SB Johnny]] 13:35, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} --[[User:Tigru|Tigru]] 15:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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#{{support}} [[w:User:Apantomimehorse|Apantomimehorse]]
# {{support}} -- [[fr:Utilisateur:Alibaba|Alibaba]] 22:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{Support}} -- [[Wikipedia:User:Bduttabaruah|BDB]]
==#6 (Keep the current)==
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::My thinking is that we should have a logo similar to this, only with the top book open. (That will give symbolic meaning while allowing space for "Wikibooks" to be written as one word. --[[User:Gray Porpoise|Gray Porpoise]] 20:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
If you kep this one, use the SVG version.--[[:en:User:HereToHelp|HereToHelp]] ([[:en:User talk:HereToHelp|talk]]) 01:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (17)===
# [[User:Kipmaster|Kipmaster]] 19:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} [[:Image:Wikibooks-logo.svg|The SVG Version]] -- [[User:MichaelFrey|MichaelFrey]] 16:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
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# {{support}} --[[User:ManuelGR|ManuelGR]] 21:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} (SVG) [[User:Stv|stv]] [[User talk:Stv|✉]] 10:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} SVG version please - [[b:de:User:ThePacker]] -- [[User:ThePacker|ThePacker]] 17:07, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
==#7 (3D of current)==
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:E' bruttino forte. (Lo dico in italiano, tanto siamo fra noi :D ) --[[User:Gatto Nero|Gatto Nero]] 08:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (3)===
#'''Strong support''' ;-) {{User:Pietrodn/Signature}} 14:21, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
#:'''Oppose.''' --[[User:Icepenguin|Icepenguin]] 05:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC) — There are no oppose votes. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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:I s'pose it's meant to symbolise an open book with its pages, as seen from above? A bit too abstract to be easily recognisable, for me at least... —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 06:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
:: I quite like it, but lose the 'w'. Individual letters or words should be avoided in the logo image, as these will not work in all languages, e.g. [
:I quite like the 3rd option. It's that or Firehazard's 2a.2 for my choice. -[[User:Quiddity|Quiddity]] 20:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
: Agreed, #3 is quite an interesting abstract shape, even without the back symbolism. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 14:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
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=== Too abstract ===
Of the logos proposed, this one does look the nicest. The only problem is that it is a bit too abstract and thus looses its value as a specific logo. The non-w option (which seems the most popular <code>:-(</code>) looks much more like a cog-wheel (engineering or mechanics wiki?) than a book. And what is that dot doing in the center? It simply doesn't make enough sense. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 02:44, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
: I agree this looks more like a wheel, than a book. Maybe someone should try to ask others (other people) what they see and what they would associate with this proposal. I guess, no one will answer, that this is definetly an open book. If i could, i would vote for a strong oppose. -- [[User:ThePacker|ThePacker]] 17:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (45)===
# {{support}} #8 without w. The sun is shining on Earth (let there be light). -- [[User:Rogerhc|Rogerhc]] 22:28, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} #8 —[[User:SCriBu|SCriBu]] [[User talk:SCriBu|<sup>msg</sup>]] 17:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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# {{support}} ''#8 with text'' [[User:Stv|stv]] [[User talk:Stv|✉]] 10:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} ''with W'' [[User:82.148.5.116|82.148.5.116]] 11:49, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} without the W. --[[User:Olli hki|Olli]] 12:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} without W -- [[Wikipedia:User:Tcommbee]]
# {{support}} without w -- [[b:de:Benutzer:Stefan Majewsky|de.wb:User:Stefan Majewsky]] -- [[User:85.177.189.29|85.177.189.29]] 19:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} without W -- Janicz 21:12, 20 September (UTC)
==#9 (Mixed-up meta logo)==
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What I really like about this one is the human element, first of all, but also the pen. Correct me if I'm wrong, but whereas the other projects are all about collecting information and redistributing it, Wikibooks requires a more artistic approach in presentation of the material. [[User:59.112.38.40|59.112.38.40]] 22:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
::(Wikinews is about creating original content, too.) - [[User:Davodd|Davodd]] | [[User_talk:Davodd|Talk]] 22:25, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (18)===
# '''Support''' - Great logo! --[[User:Icepenguin|Icepenguin]] 16:08, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:Philbert2.71828|Philbert<sup><
#{{Support}}--[[User:Shizhao|Shizhao]] 06:30, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[w:User:NorkNork|NorkNork]]
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# {{Support}} but there was also a nice one in the Wikiversity proposals by artur-rei [[de:Benutzer:Liondancer|Liondancer]] [[User:62.134.234.71|62.134.234.71]] 23:49, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} Like the concept when it was pointed out to me, but needs work. Make the book and pen the same style as the person and perhaps refine the perspective (need it be a directly straight down view). Perhaps even change the orientation: rotate 45, 90, or 180 degrees. [[w:User:Apantomimehorse|Apantomimehorse]]
#{{support}} --[[User:JonasRH|JonasRH]] 08:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC) (great, but it does need some work, especially on the pen)
# Like others have said, it needs some more work. Perhaps bring the red disk (the head) down a bit closer to the center of the green cresent, and maybe reduce the height. [[User:Swift|Swift]] 15:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
==#10 (multi-editors)==
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:I really like the idea of many hands contributing. However, I feel it might benefit from more abstraction. Most of the better logo designs (IMHO) have been very simple and abstract. Perhaps get rid of the border around the book, and just leave the book with the hands. [[User:Dbmag9|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Dbmag9|‽]]) <small>Check out [[Wikiscope]]!</small> 18:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (2)===
# {{support}} [[w:User:NorkNork|NorkNork]]
# {{support}} [[User:Badbilltucker|Badbilltucker]] 17:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
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: Agreed. Plus this style is completely a trend. Graphic designs trends ebb and tide so quickly, it's best to make sure that the logo you choose is purposefully not trendy. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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# {{support}} [[User:Badbilltucker|Badbilltucker]]
# {{support}} by 01127804128 (01127804128@gothic.com.ua)
==#12 (Open book)==
[[Image:Wikibooks-davodd.png|thumb
[[Image:Wikibooks-davodd-de.png|thumb
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A rough concept of an elegant open book. I wanted to emphasize pleasant organic curves and give an inviting feel to both readers and writers. I'm not sure about the red dot, but it needed a little something to keep it from being too horizontal. - [[User:Davodd|Davodd]] | [[User_talk:Davodd|Talk]] 04:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
:It's quite nice. Try making it less 3D, to see how it turns out. [[User:Dbmag9|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Dbmag9|‽]]) <small>Check out [[Wikiscope]]!</small> 10:56, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
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I like this; it looks like a person, head and shoulders showing, which is neat since the Wikimedia logo also vaguely depicts a person. – [[User:Mxn|Minh Nguyễn]] <small>([[User talk:Mxn|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Mxn|contribs]])</small> 07:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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#{{support}} [[User:Mxn|Minh Nguyễn]] <small>([[User talk:Mxn|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Mxn|contribs]])</small> 18:00, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} - [[User:Davodd|Davodd]] | [[User_talk:Davodd|Talk]] 23:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
# {{support}} a nice clean look --[[User:Cspurrier|Cspurrier]] 23:51, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
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==#13 (Books in circle)==
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:::: I agree with you. The books in the center of the logo should be in red colour. --[[User:Marbot|Marbot]] 20:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (5)===
#{{support}} Might need some refinement, though. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
# [[User:Kipmaster|Kipmaster]] 19:46, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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Why are there brackets on either side? How do they visually add to the image? Remember, marketing is primarily done to attract "customers", not contributors who already know about <nowiki>[[</nowiki> these dudes. -- [[User:Zanimum|Zanimum]] 18:18, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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#{{support}} I like the concept. —[[User:Nightstallion|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">Nightstallion</span>]] [[User talk:Nightstallion|''(?)'']] 07:49, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} Especially the second version ("variation"). – [[User:Mxn|Minh Nguyễn]] <small>([[User talk:Mxn|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Mxn|contribs]])</small> 18:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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On first impression it appeared like a "hart hat" or steel helmet to me. Quite discouraging, isn't it [[User:Mainzelmann|Mainzelmann]] 20:40, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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#{{support}} #2 —[[User:SCriBu|SCriBu]] [[User talk:SCriBu|<sup>msg</sup>]] 17:42, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{support}} [[User:Philbert2.71828|Philbert<sup><
#{{Support}} #2 or #4 --[[User:Shizhao|Shizhao]] 06:33, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
#{{Support}} [[User:Smurrayinchester|Smurrayinchester]] 07:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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This is a candidate for Wikiversity, but I think it would be more appropriate for Wikibooks. --[[User:24.55.70.103|24.55.70.103]] 06:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
===Votes (1)===
# {{support}} -- [[fr:Utilisateur:Alibaba|Alibaba]] 22:34, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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