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'''Orchard Lake''' is a medium-sized inland [[lake]], 795 acres (3.2 km²). It has a 110 feet (34 m) maximum depth and is in the city of [[Orchard Lake Village, Michigan|Orchard Lake Village]], [[Oakland County, Michigan|Oakland County]], in [[Michigan]], [[USA]]. It is the second-largest lake in Oakland County after [[Cass Lake (Michigan)|Cass Lake]].
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The lake is unusual in that there is an large 35 acre (142,000 m²) island in the middle of the lake, Apple Island. The island was frequently inhabited by local [[Native Americans]] before the coming of Western settlers, who later planted an apple orchard on the island, giving rise to the current name of the lake. Apple Island is now abandoned and has been designated a protected [[wildlife sanctuary]]. The small Cedar Island is near the western shore.
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I do archive--see links below (archived on that date):
*[[/archive 1|February 15, 2004]]
*[[/archive 2|March 21, 2004]]
*[[/archive 3|March 29, 2004]]
*[[/archive 4|May 16, 2004]]
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The campus of the old [[Michigan Military Academy]] is on the northeast shore of the lake. The campus is now home to [[SS. Cyril and Methodius Seminary]] and [[St. Mary's Preparatory]].
==Adminship==
Thanks, and no objection from me. --[[User:Lowellian|Lowellian]] 23:14, May 17, 2004 (UTC)
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Thanks so much for the note -- it means a lot. The stress ''has'' been getting to me....perhaps a brief wikivacation is in my near future. But good people like you, and your kind words, will definitely bring me back before too long. Keep up the fine work, and thank you once again for your note: [[User:Jwrosenzweig|Jwrosenzweig]] 17:54, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
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Please don't revert pages without explanation. This violates longstanding policy, according to the arbitration committee. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|anthony]] [[User:Anthony_DiPierro/warning|(see warning)]] 22:03, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
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Thanks for the tip. I've since discovered how to see a user's edit history so I should be able to better judge that sort of thing in future :) [[User:CorvusCorax|CorvusCorax]] 13:36, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
[[Category:Oakland County, Michigan]]
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[[Category:Lakes in Michigan]]
:"Or it simply recognizes that other countries have different attitudes towards foreign involvement in politics, and applies to each country the standards which it desires, therefore respecting their laws, culture, and sovereignty"
My impression is that the US government cares very little, in general, for other countries' laws, culture, and sovereignty, and that it applies double standards.
In any case, it has not, in the past, refrained from funding dubious groups to fight an alleged communist threat (see the NED's involvement in the funding of UNI); the Clinton administration did not hesitate either before meddling in other countries' internal policies to push the agenda of the Church of Scientology and other groups (who probably funded their political activities). [[User:David.Monniaux|David.Monniaux]] 15:01, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
Follow-ups on my page. Easier to have everything in one place. [[User:David.Monniaux|David.Monniaux]] 15:25, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
==Halfman==
Why are you restoring nonsense articles? [[User:RickK|Rick]]'''[[User talk:RickK|K''']] 04:30, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
==My position on advertising==
You said on Village Pump that I said on the mailing list that Wikipedia will never have ads. I don't think that's completely accurate, although if I did say it, I'd like to review what I did say.
What I have said is that I am personally opposed to ads, and that I don't think we will ever have ads. But I have tried to be scrupulously careful to never say never, because it is hard to say what the future will bring.
The thought experiment that I like to pose to people here is this: suppose we get to the point where advertising could generate $1 million a month in revenue. And suppose that money could be directed to getting Wikipedia distributed on CD-ROM and paper format to third world countries. Would we choose to turn down that opportunity to do good?
I should add here that I do think this is only a thought experiment, because in fact, I think that by remaining ad free, we actually '''increase''' rather than '''decrease''' the total revenue potential in the form of donations, grants, etc.
I remain firmly opposed to ads, and don't foresee any change to that position. But I am careful to never say never, because I feel too great a responsibility to our primary mission. If the community demanded it, based on the sort of scenario I outline above (i.e. we could raise vast sums for our fundamental charitable purpose), and I were proved wrong over a couple of years trying to raise money in other ways, I would back down from my opposition. [[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 11:37, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
==Protecting [[Anti-American sentiment]] and support for [http://amor.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444e1w/vokeng.htm learning project]==
Hi Meelar, you protected [[Anti-American sentiment]] but I did not see it on the list of protected pages, so I added it. I also added a note to the discussion page.
To change the subject to something more constructive, would you be interested in a project about learning that I describe on my page and that is discussed on my talk page? [[User:Get-back-world-respect|Get-back-world-respect]] 12:58, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
:Answer to you on [[User_talk:Get-back-world-respect|my talk page]]. [[User:Get-back-world-respect|Get-back-world-respect]] 21:46, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
==Berg==
Sure - appreciate your effort on this page. [[User:Mark Richards|Mark Richards]] 21:53, 26 May 2004 (UTC)
A great improvement! [[User:Mark Richards|Mark Richards]] 01:08, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
==Meelar Conspiracy==
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Mark_Richards&diff=3743123&oldid=3741659 says "Would you mind looking over Energybone's latest version? I've used up both my reverts and my willingness to deal with him for the time being. Thanks, [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 21:47, 26 May 2004 (UTC)"
Used up both your reverts? Meelar, what exactly are you trying to pull here? Is it your intention to "use up" your reverts to dogpile on me by requesting that your friends revert for you? That's an obvious violation of wikipedia policy, Meelar, and I insist you stop this childish game. You are not the sole arbiter of truth. If you "use up" your reverts you're simply stuck with it. Wait twenty-four hours like the rest of us do. NO MORE CHEATING, MEELAR. [[User:Energybone|Energybone]] 01:18, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
==Politeness==
Meelar — I just came across your patience and politeness in your interactions with [[User:Energybone]] and was really impressed. I appreciate your attitude. [[User:Matt Crypto|— Matt]] 11:41, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
== Quaggaism ==
What is quaggaism?? [[User:66.245.6.21|66.245.6.21]] 00:45, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
== Residence Bill ==
Why did you edit my page by taking out the text of the residence bill and my external link? --[[User:Jd4508|Jd4508]] 01:47, 29 May 2004 (UTC)
==[[The History of the Standard Oil Company]]==
Thanks for making a decent stub of it. I was actually about to do it myself, but you beat me to it... [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 18:27, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Not being from the US, I hadn't even heard of it before (found it via the random page function). You learn something every day :) - [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 18:33, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
==[[Wyatt Cooper]]==
Beats me, but he married [[Gloria Vanderbilt]] (heiress to New York railroad fortune) and fathered [[Anderson Cooper]], the greatest TV personality of all time. I didn't write the article--just redirected to it. I actually think he was an actor (based on Google search results). ''— [[User:Wikisux|Wikisux]] 00:31, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)''
== Speedy/Admin/Congrats ==
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I know I can do speedies now, and have done several today. As for "Religious Persecution in China", there are three things. First, I didn't really want my first deletion to be of a potentially salvageable article. Second, I felt kinda bad because, if it had shown up last week, while I was still unemployed (and spending 8-12 hrs/day on WP), there's a fair chance I would have done enuf research to make at least a couple-paragraph stub, then move it to the proper spelling. Third, as I believe I stated during voting, at least until I get more experience, I will probably delete obvious nonsense myself, but just tag more borderline cases for a "second opinion". [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 05:13, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
== Thanks for the Welcome ==
Thanks for noticing my [[Billboard (advertising)]] article and adding a the [[culture jamming]] bit to it, that was cool. I hope you don't mind, I shuffled the new bit around for narrative flow and expanded it with with a billboard prank I noticed on the web and merged in the [[billboard liberation]] See Also that was at the bottom of the page that I hadn't quite figured out what to do with. I suspect billboard liberation will get its own entry at some point. Obviously feel free to edit and comment as you see fit, it's not my article, it's ours :)
This being my first visit to this community it's nice to have a warm welcome.
[[User:Jkeiser|Jkeiser]] 16:30, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
== Copyvio ==
Meelar, thanks for the help with the tags on [[Protocol Analyzer]]. However, what is the policy with copyvios? Will the article eventually get deleted? If it stays around as is, won't it still be helping the offending site's pagerank, thus making the vandalism worth it? - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 17:52, Jun 8, 2004 (UTC)
== Timestamping welcome messages ==
I remember intending to put that on my welcome messages at one point, and I had to think a bit to remember why I ended up not doing it. I use the subst: method and templates to insert my messages rather than copying and pasting the whole thing. The problem is that four tildes get expanded on the template page and then the timestamp that gets substituted is the one that was originally put on the template. However, I've recently been having trouble with the nowiki tags in my templates and had to create a work-around for that, so perhaps it would be a better idea to go low-tech and just copy and paste the messages. Still, that means a little more work switching back and forth between the two versions of the welcome I have. I'll think about what I can do and see what works best. [[User:Jrdioko|<nowiki></nowiki>]] – [[User:Jrdioko|Jrdioko]] [[User talk:Jrdioko|<small>(Talk)</small>]] 14:53, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: I do agree that it would be nice to get in there, but I played around with a few different methods and none of them seems to work. Oh well, the timestamp is always in the history. [[User:Jrdioko|<nowiki></nowiki>]] – [[User:Jrdioko|Jrdioko]] [[User talk:Jrdioko|<small>(Talk)</small>]] 05:27, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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Your edits to Luigi can be disagreed with, yes. Like his twin (Mario), he is a plumber from Brooklyn who was working in the sewers before he became acquainted with the Mushroom and Koopa kingdoms. This is a piece of argument for you, and arguments and different perceptions must result in deletion of certain info, especially where points can be made to refute. This is what is conglomerated from the early history of the Mario Bros. Fiction was not designed to be built into encyclopedias during the old days, when the rules were tight. And where fiction is concerned, unless some info is so valuable not to be removed, it can be removed without further notice, and I think it's invaluable and thus incorrect. --[[User:Marcus2|Marcus2]]
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