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Don't know what should go here. Talk to me!
Please add new discussions '''''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Grutness&action=edit§ion=new at the bottom of the page!]'''''
Actually, what I meant was, if you'd like to know something. Ask!
== This is me ==
I've only been a Wikipedian a very short while (since October 13th, 2004), so I'm still getting the hang of this.
[[User:ZackStone|ZackStone]] 17:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
My intention for the time being, until I really get the hang of this, is to fill in the gaps on a lot of the pages to do with the geography of [[New Zealand]]'s southern [[South Island]], especially the province of [[Otago]], which I call home.
I can't promise the articles will look particularly attractive - although at least they shouldn't be too badly written. Still, they should be better than the dead-end links and stubs that are there at the moment. Hopefully I'll eventually move up to working out how to add pictures and the like, but for now I'm working on the principle that any (correct) information is better than none.
My aim is to attempt to add (or add to) at least one article a day if I can, although that will depend to a large extent on my "real life".
Thanks to those who have welcomed me here - I hope to be of some use to Wikipedia!
[[User:Grutness|James Dignan (Grutness)]] 10:52, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
===Current Wiki-work===
...has been moved to my [[User: Grutness|user page]].
===Earlier talk===
I've moved discussions prior to February 1, 2005 from this page to archive pages (as listed below). A few of the items I've simply got rid of - if I have, it's simply that it was trivial and/or stuff which has been dealt with, and is therefore no longer relevant. The deletion is not a reflection of my opinion of the writers!
My intention is to move any threads that have not been touched in the current or previous calendar month to the archives. That is, in early April I will move any thread not added to since February, in May I will move the untouched since March, and so on. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
'''Archive pages:'''
*<font color=purple>[[User talk: Grutness/archive1]]</font> - October 2004-January 2005
===Stub Categories===
<big>The full plain-text list of stub categories (formerly at [[User:Grutness/Stubs]]) is now at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types]], complete with links to the templates.</big>
==Admin nomination==
Gidday Grutness. Have you considered becoming an admin? I'd like to nominate you.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 21:12, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:Eek! I've thought about it, but don't really know what's involved. Thanks for the offer though! What ''is'' involved in being an admin? [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 22:32, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
::Mainly, it's that Jimbo stays at your place whenever he's in Dunedin, and he gets to drink all your beer. For more details, see [[Wikipedia:Administrators|here]].-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 22:48, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
:Well... not as bad as I feared... I still feel I'm pretty new here though. Give me a bit of time to think about it. Ask again in a few weeks and I'll probably say yes. Thanks! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 23:03, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
It's now a few weeks later. Any change in your answer?-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 01:45, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Sigh.. okay :) So, what do I have to do to apply? [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::Tis done. Just go to [[WP:RFA]] and accept formally, then answer the standard questions. Feel free to point out any shortcomings that I forgot to mention as well.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 04:30, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Template:Offensivetemplate==
Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 09:08, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
:(bows) Thankyew! :)
::Okay, what did I miss out on? - [[User:RoyBoy|RoyBoy]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:RoyBoy|∞]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 05:32, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:I made a joke template based on the tfd one, reading something like:
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="vfd" style="background-color: transparent; margin: 0 2.5%; padding: 0; border: 1px solid #aaa;font-size:xx-small;"> The text below is an offensive template, which will hurt your eyes if you look at it> It has been proposed for deletion. Please see its entry on <font color=blue><u>Icky Wikipedia</u></font> for comments and voting.</div>
Sadly, I don't think it's been saved on BJAODN. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Stub deletion ==
I have updated the page... I hope it is clear now. See [[Wikipedia:Deletion of useless stub templates and stub categories]] --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 09:53, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
: I like to avoid CFD and TFD... [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] has a bias against stub sorting. --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 17:58, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Grenada==
See [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Football_of_Grenada]] --[[User:Dryazan|Dryazan]] 16:44, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:OK - thanks for that [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Re:Antarctica-geo-stub ==
I'll see what i can do about making the [[Template:Antarctica-geo-stub]] image better looking. Unfortunately my image editing tools and techniques leave something to be desired, but i think leaving a fringe of blue around the continent would look nice. I'll give that a shot when i have some free time. [[User:Foobaz|foobaz]]·[[User talk:foobaz|✐]] 07:52, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:OK, what do you think? I gave the image a blue border to outline it. If your browser supports alpha channel PNGs, the border even fades out. Personally i think it looks a lot nicer than either previous stub image. [[User:Foobaz|foobaz]]·[[User talk:foobaz|✐]] 04:19, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Chimes of Freedom==
This is NOT just a song stub - thee is also a fairly significant (IMHO) book on Dylan by Mike Marquesee, deliberately of that title. Please go to discussion and put your point if you wish to rererererevert.
Bob aka [[User:Linuxlad|Linuxlad]] 09:35, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:See note at the discussion article. And please note that I am simply reverting. I have only changed this to a song-stub once. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
Yes, someone else did the first change to song-stub IIRC
The full title of the book IS in the article.
But the main title is the one everyone will try to search on. I don't see what's gained by moving it off into a separate article when the two (song and book) are SO closely related.
I'll accept a double-stub to make peace :-) (but is it actually literature? Is there a biography stub??)
Bob
== Geo-stub icons ==
You said that some stub icons were incorrect, and I think you might be right.
So I changed back these geo-stubs:
[[Template:Mexico-geo-stub]], [[Template:Italy-geo-stub]], [[Template:Japan-geo-stub]] <br>
[[User:500LL|500LL]] [[User_talk:500LL|Talk to me]], 9:50, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Thanks ==
For updating that Ohio State Highway 562 page and Norwood Lateral page, making the latter redirect to the former. After I created it last night, I was thinking about it and logged on today to make the change only to find out you had already done it! Thanks again!
::I was just sorting through the stubs. I changed the Norwood one, then a few minutes later came across the other one. It just seemed to make sense for them to go together. Glad you weren't annoyed! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Controlling stub growth ==
Part of the reasons I have created the policies is to attempt to control stub growth. I don't want stub growth to get out of hand that they become a problem. Here's a new suggestion for the deletion:
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A new stub template and/or new stub category may be deleted if the stub has not been approved at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting]] for its creation or does not follow any of the [[Wikipedia:Stub sorting policy|stub sorting guidelines]]. Prior to its deletion, a trial period of '''10 days''' is given to prove if a stub is useful before the template and/or stub category is deleted. After its trial period duration, a vote with a period of '''10 days''' will be held at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting]] to determine its usefulness.
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Does that seem better? I know that all the waiting and approval may annoy you, but I feel it is necessary. This evident from certain stub templates we have discussed they need to be deleted on our page. I very much would like to try to empower the project such that it can vote stub templates and stub categories for deletion without going through the regular TFD and CFD process. --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 23:25, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
: The policy is up for vote, by the way. --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 00:16, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Geo-stubs==
I don't want to slow anybody down, but think about this: I just went through a long list of stubs and anything that was a geographical ___location (amongst many other things) was moved to their general category. If you're familiar with all of the geographical stubs, you don't have to go through the google search, I've just given you a bunch that you can properly sort once and for all. Having every one going through the generic stubs list and/or the google search and just picking articles that suit them isn't any faster for the project. I would know, it's not the first (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th) I see the same articles looking for a science stub. Having that said, since you've seemed to have worked with a lot of geo stubs, tell me what templates I'm most likely to encounter and I'll be sure to specify it. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 01:07, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Hey man, I totally understand where you're coming from. This is a huge task and it's really overwhelming. No matter how it's done, it's a lot of work for everyone. For my part, like I said on a talk page somewhere, if you find anything science related, just throw it in sci-stub. If the geo (or any other) category is getting too big and you want to tidy it up, let me know and I'll gladly help out, especially if it's because of me. Sorting generic stubs into 20-30 broad categories is just as fast as sorting geographical stubs into 20-30 country-specific stubs. However, sorting generic stubs in 20-30 country specific stubs, plus 10-20 specific sport stubs, plus 10-15 biography stubs, etc is different ;) --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 01:44, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
First of all, congrats on being admin! Second, I've went through the geo-stubs category and moved some Falklands stub into UK-geo stubs, since it's an english colony. Now I'm thinking maybe you didn't want to do that. If that's the case, let me know and I'll move them back. Then again, it might give you an excuse to use that nifty rollback function ;) --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 17:30, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
=== [[Template:romania-geo-stub|romania-geo-stub]] ===
* Thanks for the hint! [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 09:02, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
* Is there any template to insert as link about missing diacritics? [[:ro:Format:Listele localităţilor din România pe judeţe]] shows the names of all 13.800 places in Romania. [[Alesd]] romanian ''Aleşd'' does neighter show the original name for itself nor for the other places refered in the article as other articles do. I do not have the time to make the changes now. [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] administrator at [[:ro:]] and [[:eo:]] 09:20, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
* '''Note:''' The places are sorted alphabelicaly at [[:ro:Wikipedia:Proiectul localităţile din România/ghid alfabetic]].
=== nativespeaker ===
* Here is the need of a native speaker. So we need somthing as '''<nowiki>{{nativespeaker|language=}}</nowiki>''' or many <nowiki>{{</nowiki>nativespeaker'''xx'''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> not <nowiki>{{cleanup}}</nowiki> and not <nowiki>{{wrongtitle|title=}}</nowiki>.
* It would help me to solve also lot of ambiguities at [[User:GangleriBot/InterWiki/ambiguities 01]]. Everywhere you see "''ERROR: Found more than one link for wikipedia:'''xx'''''" there are wrong links "''somewhere''". If 30 languages and more are involved it is quite tuff. I found more then 200 other ambiguities. There are hundreds of users "''making interlanguage / InterWiki links''". Do you have a clue how the communicate? Best regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 10:27, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
* '''Note:''' At [[:ro:]] we have some "''stealth''" templates. Peolple knowing them are watching [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:romania-geo-stub]]. In the future maybe [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:nativespeakerro]] etc. Regards 10:34, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
* "''Stealth''" templates do not show up at the pages and are not inserting categories as those at [[:en:]]. You will see them only if you edit the relevant pages. See: [[:ro:Format:Diacritice]] and [[:ro:Special:Whatlinkshere/Format:Diacritice]], [[:ro:Format:Vandalism]] and [[:ro:Special:Whatlinkshere/Format:Vandalism]] , [[:ro:Format:Wikizare]] and [[:ro:Special:Whatlinkshere/Format:Wikizare]]. A small team of users checks after them at the moment. Regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 16:15, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
* An example for <nowiki>{{</nowiki>nativespeaker'''ro'''<nowiki>}}</nowiki> is [[List of Romanian Cities (by name)]] where many [[Wikipedia:piped link|piped links]] should be corrected. [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 19:53, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)
=== [[Template:czechia-geo-stub|czechia-geo-stub]] ===
* Halló Grutness! If you find somebody inserting [[Template:Czechia-geo-stub]] and maybe also [[Template:Wrongtitle]] to items realted to the [[Czech Republic]] you / he / she can link also titels from [[:eo:Vikipediisto:GangleriBot/InterWiki/Ĉeĥio#Analizo]]. They have no link at all. Thanks in advance! Best regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 16:29, 2005 Mar 3 (UTC)
== Congratulations, James! ==
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrator]]. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]] before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the [[Main Page]]. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new [[Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide|administrators' how-to guide]] helpful. Cheers! -- [[User:Cecropia|Cecropia]] | [[User talk:Cecropia|''explains it all'' ®]] 05:29, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Eek! :) and it looks like I need to send about 40+ "thank you" messages! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 05:39, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::Why, then you get 40 "you're welcome" messages. I think you'll be a great admin; cheers! [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] 05:49, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations from me too! Open a bottle of something special tonight.
This is probably a good time to add a note of caution about Wikipedia. It's addictive, as I'm sure you've realised. Don't feel that you need to work harder or longer hours because you're an administrator. Make sure you have a balance in your life between Wikipedia, work, and your loved ones. It's probably okay if Wikipedia has pushed some other hobbies out of your life, but if its affecting your work, your art, or your relationships, then its getting out of proportion. I suggest that as well as the reading list above, you look at [[wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians]]. Consider the case of [[User:fvw]], who was a great administrator, but only lasted two months before burning out.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 06:03, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Good thoughts, and it is true that I spend too much time on Wikipedia. Still, you will have noticed that the number of new articles I have started has dropped in the last few weeks, and I have concentrated on janitorial tasks such as stubs. This is such a chore that I can't spend huge amounts of time on it without getting fed up, so it's helped me reduce any Wikiholism. The arrival of two new kittens in the household is giving me non-computer things to spend time on, too :) [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 06:06, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Don't forget, keep on eye out on the [[WP:AN|Administrator's Noticeboard]]. You can also help out in many other places, like [[WP:RFPP]]. --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 06:19, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, and you're very welcome. Good luck! --[[User:Merovingian|<font color="green"><big>R</big>yan!]]</font> | [[User talk:Merovingian|<font color="orange">Talk</font>]] 06:24, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations! Yes, ''watching and waiting''. :-) You never know who's peeking over your edits, um I meant shoulder. I'm sure you'll do a good job. Remember, God does not subtract from your alloted time on Earth the time spent with kittens. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 06:32, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, Grutness! If you're not kidding and you really still don't know which variety of administrator-only kryptonite is which, just try them on me or my contributions. I'm thick-skinned plus I'd be no great loss! -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] 07:04, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)
Belated congratulations, I'm sure you'll make a great admin! [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></sup> 19:56, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==You're Welcome==
Congratulations! You don't have to thank me. For me it was an honor to vote for you. I'm glad you made it and I wish you good luck. [[User:Marine 69-71]]
Congratulations on becoming an admin, I was more than happy to vote for you. [[User:Rje|Rje]] 20:10, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations. Try deleting [[User:Grutness|yourself]], it's fun, it doesn't harm anyone and it's kind of transcendental. It's what I did when I got "the power"... -- [[User:Francs2000|Francs2000]] | [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Francs2000&action=edit§ion=new Talk] [[]] 21:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
And congrats from me too! I'm sure you'll do a splendid job! —[[User:Stormie|Stormie]] 21:21, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)
== Stub sorting guidelines ==
I sincerely believe that we really need to lay down the law in stub sorting, and really provide a guideline. I believe that we should all attempt to reach a general consensus by [[April 2]], [[2005]] in a set of rules that we can follow. Once we have built a set of guidelines, we can formally create a policy out of those guidelines. We need to define what a specialized topic stub is, how many articles it should cover, when is it appropriate to create it, what defines its need for its creation, what defines its need for deletion, what criteria it should follow, what are the general steps should one take when sorting a stub, whether or not to start using subst: for all templates, whether or not use subst: for all templates created by the meta-templates, and any other matters that may come up in consideration. I thank [[User:jag123|jag123]] for initially creating the subpage for the project at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Guidelines]]. Even though they have been discussed, I feel that we really need to confirm everything. For that, we should discuss each issue with its own sections, and raise a list of issues that we need to nail down before really continuing on. The English Wikipedia is nearly at 500k articles. Either the MediaWiki software needs to handle stubs such that they can be found with a simple union of categories, or the sorting is done manually by Wikipedians. Personally, I think the latter is less taxing on the server load, especially when we use subst:, which I think would help the Wikipedia out, performance wise. Please make your comments at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Guidelines]]. I apologize for making this somewhat of a spam notice, but since the project has more members, the project can finally decide on these important issues at hand. --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 23:23, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==That thing you did==
Hi Gadfium - a while back I was having trouble with some geography stubs, and (via the Village Pump) you found out for me that they'd been created twice, and fixed them. I['ve found a handful more like that, and - now that I'm an admin - I'd like to know how you did that so that I can try to fix them myself. So, what did you do? [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 00:28, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Just delete and restore the article which is appearing more than once. If that doesn't seem to work, try refreshing the category that they're in (edit the category page and then change the URL to say refresh instead of edit), and as a last resort, make a trivial change to the duplicated article to force a change to the database. The delete/restore should always come first, that's probably all you need now that the system is running at normal speed and the databases aren't continually getting out of sync with each other.-[[User:Gadfium|gadfium]] 01:47, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== changing geo-stub ==
hahaha. this is bordering on the absurd. I have ended a number of my articles and stubs with Oceania-geo-stub, and someone has changed them to just plain stubs, so now I make it just a stub, and someone comes in behind me and changes it first to a geo-stub and then to an Oceania-geo-stub. Make up your minds ppl! [[User:TShilo12|TShilo12]] 07:09, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Nuthin' to do with me - and anyone involved in the Stub sorting project should know to leave it as a oceania-geo-stub. Which articles do you mean? Perhaps I can get to the bottom of this... [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 07:38, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::I don't even know precisely which articles they are anymore...most of my recent edits have had to do with the islands of French Polynesia and the Cook Islands. I haven't bothered to look at who's changing the stubs, or if perhaps it's a problem with the db (I've had on occasion to submit several times...) I should think Oceania-geo-stub, geo-stub and stub shouldn't be related in the db, but then again, I haven't seen the schema. Since you seem to be big on geo-stubs, may I recommend an overhaul of the system, such that geo- be dropped in favor of geog- and geol-? I haven't looked into making new stub signatures yet, although I have recently considered that perhaps it would be nice to refine the "oceania" and "lang" stub sigs... [[User:TShilo12|TShilo12]] 07:46, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:The db may be the culprit. These stubs are very heavily used and the system does seem to slow down a bit with them. Not sure why that would result in the multile template changes though. As to an overhaul of the names, that would mean changing 50+ different regional stubs which between them are used on close to 10,000 articles. It's simply not practical. Oh, and submitting several times isn't always a good hing either, since that can stuff up page histories. Having said that, if you do want to help with stub sorting, then have a look over at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting]]. The folks over there would be only too pleased to have someone else helping! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::Ah. I will look into it. Tokelau has always been something of a side-bar interest for me, since they seem to be the "left-out" islands. I'll check out what you've written, and add anything that I think I might have to contribute. Unfortunately for my ability to contribute to these Polynesia-related articles, Wikipedia is catching me about 15 years after my interest in the subject reached its zenith... I ardently believe in the philosophy that drives Wikipedia, and so I'm doing whatever I can to write, edit or create appropriate articles, based mostly on memory (which is why they seem sometimes perhaps to be a bit light on citation...)...If I had a crappier memory, I'd be more hesitant about contributing... :-) Believe me tho...when I decided to move to the Marquesas, specifically, to Eïao, my decision was well-researched. Of course, this is the unrealized pipe-dream of an adolescent misfit...but my extensive research into the subject has left me with a tid-bit of knowledge. :-) [[User:TShilo12|TShilo12]] 08:16, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Cardiff Arms Park==
Cynnar dda Arwel,
Any reason why you reverted my changes to [[Cardiff Arms Park]]? You're going to make stub-sorting far harder if you revert correct changes. UK-struct-stub, for buildings and structures in the UK, is a subcategory of both UK-geo-stub and struct-stub, and is a more specific stub category than either. All you did was took the article out of its specialist category and put it into the two parents of that category. Please don't do that! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 00:32, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Bore da, Grutness. Did you actually look at the version of the article I reverted? It was terrible - misformatted text, bolded text in the wrong place, etc. I just reverted that to get back to a decent version, knowing that someone would come along to fix the categories later if needed... -- [[User:Arwel Parry|Arwel]] 01:10, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Richard III==
Just to let you know, out of courtesy, that I reverted your latest changes to this controversial article, because they seemed to infringe the NPOV rule. [[User:Deb|Deb]] 18:27, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Hello again. I'm afraid your response illustrates the reason I had to revert your comments:
:''"Both the things I wrote (which are easily verifiable facts) were put there because what was already there seemed to be non NPOV. The article mentioned that he was frequently referred to as deformed, but made no attempt to show that this was almost certainly untrue. It also referred to the fact that he had means available to kill the princes, but made no attempt to mention that he was not the most likely culprit (in fact, he had to put measures in place after the deaths in order to maintain his position)"''
:I'm at a loss to see how "All portraits of him from during and after his reign show no signs of any such deformity" adds anything to the existing paragraph, which goes to some lengths to be fair to Richard. In any case, it is an inaccurate statement: there is only one portrait in existence which could have been painted during his lifetime, but there is a portrait painted in 1550 (ie. "after his reign") which shows him as deformed, and another of similar date which is known to have been doctored to show him as such, but was later restored. It is on this second portrait that almost all other portraits of him are based.
:You don't give any evidence for the "easily verifiable fact" that Richard ''didn't'' have the best motive for killing the princes. It's recognised by modern historians that he ''did'' have very good motives. The article already mentions that there is a question mark over whether he did it, and refers to the [[Princes in the Tower]] article, in which that subject is fully explored, and which mentions all the other possible culprits. [[User:Deb|Deb]] 15:53, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Re: [[User_talk:Instantnood#Double redirects|Double redirects]]==
Thanks at lot for reminding and help fixing them. I don't know why I could have forgotton at that time. :-D — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 10:59, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)
==km2==
Are you using an old Internet Explorer for Mac? It seems your browser destroys km2 (km²) in case the square is done with the direct character. See e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geography_of_Malaysia&diff=10435198&oldid=10025423]. [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 20:09, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:I ''am'' using an old version of IE with a mac - I didn't realise anything was happening with km². I haven't noticed that happen anywhere, but I'll watch out for it in future - sorry! I didn't even realise there was a direct character - I thought that square was always done by either ² or <sup>2</sup>. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::It seems that the Mac charset does not contain that character, and IE for Mac only understands characters in that Mac charset. When the German wikipedia was switched to UTF8 many webbrowsers were tested for compatibility (see [[:de:Wikipedia:Umstellung_auf_Unicode]] - sorry, but I have no english equivalent), and IE for Mac was knocked out. Maybe you should try to switch to [[Mozilla]], because once the English wikipedia will be switched to UTF8 (in the next few months, if I understand Brion correctly at the tech mailing list) you probably cannot use IE anymore anyway. And besides Mozilla is IMHO better than IE :-) [[User:Ahoerstemeier|andy]] 10:18, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Taiwan and Republic of China==
There are already [[:Category:Republic of China]] and [[:Category:Taiwan]]. The same rule should be applied. Only the current government in Taipei bears the official title of "Republic of China", but not the one in Beijing. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 18:46, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)
==China-geo-stubs==
There are currently 201 articles in the category of China geography stubs.
Two involves both mainland China and the ROC
*[[Taiwan Strait]],
*[[Cathay]],
16 are related to the ROC only
*[[Chiayi]],
*[[Chungli City]],
*[[Cishan, Kaohsiung]],
*[[Douliou City]],
*[[Fongyuan]],
*[[Fort Zeelandia (Taiwan)]],
*[[Guanmiao, Tainan]],
*[[Guantian, Tainan]],
*[[Jhubei City]],
*[[Jhudong, Hsinchu]],
*[[Kenting National Park]],
*[[Tsoying]],
*[[Wufong, Taichung]],
*[[Xiaonanmen Branch]],
*[[Yongkang City]],
*[[Yunlin County]],
and 183 are related to mainland China only. (No article is related to Hong Kong or Macao.)
I don't think readers would recognise [[:Category:China geography stubs]] covers geostubs related to the ROC, until they read the notice on the of the category, or see category's link at an ROC-related article. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 18:59, Feb 19 2005 (UTC)
:Then we think differently. Just because there are more stubs relating to one than the other doesn't mean they should be separated. In fact, the paucity of Taiwan geo-stubs is a very good reason to keep them together, as there wouldn't be enough for a separate category. Believe me, before stub categories are created they are debated at great length in the stub-sorting wikiproject. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::The current settings make [[Template:China-geo-stub]] fails to fulfill its function to include ROC-related geostubs. Most ROC-related geostubs are inserted the tag <nowiki>{{Taiwan-stub}} instead of {{China-geo-stub}}</nowiki> (see [[:Category:Taiwan-related stubs]]), an obvious evidence that editors do hestitate to put on such a template. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 15:53 Feb 20 2005 (UTC)
:::Thank you for bringing the issue to resolution. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 12:36 Feb 24 2005 (UTC)
::::I haven't. I've simply suggested a way forward. Since the Taiwan-related stubs category is being so misused, and since - other than geo-stubs - it seems there is virtually no need for such a category (with less than ten stubs in total), it seems better to rearrange things this way. But it will still require debate on WSS before it can be "brought to resolution". [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 00:43, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:::::Right.. bringing to possible resolution. :-D — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 07:02 Feb 25 2005 (UTC)
:::: Nope. To bring to a resolution means to resolve. It hasn't been resolved. The process of bringing it to a resolution has started. Once it has been debated and a defvinite decision has been made, it will have been brought to a resolution. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
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== Adminship ==
I decided to test my strength. Do you want to nominate me for admin? [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] 16:29, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Image Tagging==
Important. You are one of the contributors to [[:Image:Africastubmap.png]]. It is currently not tagged in accordance with [[Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags]]. It must be, so people can be certain of its legality. Please license it under a free license, such as GFDL, or PD if you're willing. It is being used in many articles so this is important. Until you do this, it will be <nowiki>{{unverified}}</nowiki>, putting the status of that stub template in jeopardy. If you need help tagging it, post on my talk page. [[User:Superm401|Superm401]] 20:48, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:It should be tagged - I was sure I'd put a gfdl tag on it. Then again, there were problems with saving that one, so I could have forgotten in the fuss to get it saved properly. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Italians in the wrong country (bot request) ==
I wish to assist you with your bot request. Could clarify the problem for me? Below is what I understand. Please correct me if I'm incorrect.
In the article, [[Communes_of_the_province_of_Brescia]], there are links to several articles in a list format of:
<nowiki>* [[Article]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>*[[Article]]</nowiki>
You want each article in this to make sure that all articles in the taxobox is linked correctly as: <nowiki>[[Regions of Italy|Region]]:</nowiki>.
Is that correct? --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 05:11, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
: Also, do want to change the list to a category or leave it as a list for now? --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 05:11, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Hey==
I am quite insulted that you post racist comments about black people. Please stop it or I will block you, and please get a grip. --[[User:Ampersand a la Carte-le-Fort|Ampersand a la Carte-le-Fort]] 10:33, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:I am very offended that you even suggest that I would. You quite clearly have the wrong person. What exactly are you referring to? [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 10:38, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::Ah. A known troll, it seems.
== List of sources referring to the Taiwan Strait islands as Taiwan ==
Since the advocates of the terminology "Republic of China" consider islands other than the island of Taiwan (esecially Quemoy and Matsu) significant, I am putting together a list at [[User:Susvolans/List of sources referring to the Taiwan Strait islands as Taiwan]]. Feel free to edit it. [[User:Susvolans|Susvolans]] [[User talk:Susvolans|(pigs can fly)]] [[Talk:Gdansk/Vote#Enforcement|Did you know that there is a proposal to treat dissent from naming conventions as vandalism?]] 18:08, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for that - I'll check it out. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Motorcycle stub ==
I'll toss items here as I find them until you've established the stub, if that's OK with you. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 16:16, 2005 Feb 26 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's fine. I noticed a whole bunch under "Yamaha" at the end of Category:Stub, (about seven of them, IIRC. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
[[SM_125]]; [[Bimota]];
== Stub notice ==
Cheers for changing [[Yardang]]. I'm always a little overwhelmed by the volume of stub notices... Is there a full, comprehensive and '''clear''' list somewhere? [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(t)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Smoddy|(e)]] 23:52, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Well, there's the list with all the icons at [[Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs]], but that means waiting for all the stubs to load (and if, like me, you're on a dial-up modem, that can take some time). But I made myself a 'crib-sheet' of them all (as of a couple of days ago), which I'm very tempted to add to my user pages... in fact, I will. See [[User:Grutness/Stubs]]
Thanks for compiling [[User:Grutness/Stubs]]. I've been meaning to do it but never got to it. Question: do you think it should be slightly reorganized so it has, for instance, math-stub at the top of the math stub and then stubs types like gemoetry under it? Again, thanks for the great list. [[User:RJFJR|RJFJR]] 01:02, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
:Good idea. I did change the order of one or two things - Pro wrestling is under sport, for instance (even though I feel it would make more sense under theatre!) [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
I like your new listing of the stubs at [[User:Grutness/Stubs]]. If you would add in links to each of the template, I would suggest it would then be worth putting in the regular Wikipedia namespace rather than hiding it as a user subpage. I had been thinking about doing something very similiar, put was also planning to add links to any associated Wikiprojects and Regional notice boards (using [WP] and [RNB] tags to keep things from looking too cluttered). [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>∅</font> ]] 07:54, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::Just noticed this - good idea. It may take a few days to do this, but I will. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
:Thanks, that's a great help. [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(t)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Smoddy|(e)]] 13:05, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== Unique NZ place names given New Zealand qualifier in article title. ==
Is there a reason for giving unique NZ placenames a qualifier of "New Zealand" in the article title? Some that I have seen are [[Kumeu]], [[Kawau Island]] and [[Bombay Hills, New Zealand]]. [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] 19:34, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Bombay Hills simply because of Bombay, India. I found references to Kawau Islands in both Hawaii and Australia on the web (though I've since checked and the "Australia" one was our very own N.Z. Kawau). As to Kumeu, I've no idea... I probably had a reason at the time, but that was 10,000 edits ago... [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Promoting private companies ==
Hello! I noticed you've been doing a lot of work on NZ pages. I have a question. Recently a change was made to the [[Lake Waikaremoana]] page whereby the name of a company was added that guides tours around the lake. What is the policy on this? My hunch is to remove the reference to a specific company, unless that company is the only one (doubtful) and there is no possibility of others starting up (like because of some kind of a government regulation). What do you think? Thanks. [[User:Mona-Lynn|Mona-Lynn]] 10:59, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::That's a bit of a tricky one. Given the area it ''could'' be the only company involved in tours of the track. You're probably right though, since it is advertising. I've made a change to the article by removing that link but putting in a couple of other external links about the lake, so that there's at least as much information available as there was before. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 11:18, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Hmm. Having hiked it a few months ago and seen it with my own eyes I would not be surprised if there was more than one group offering guided hikes. Local Maori would certainly have something, and also I saw a small birding group. The visitor centre seemed to have a lot of info in it. I agree with your edits. Thanks. [[User:Mona-Lynn|Mona-Lynn]] 11:16, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
== BoNM ==
Indeed, to every Wikipedian his own! You deserved this award for your work in favor of our coverage of New Zealand. Regards, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 16:00, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Many thanks! I wasn't fishing for an award, you know :) I shall move this to my user page... [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::It was my pleasure. The award was well deserved. In fact, you did me a favor when you posted your comment on the project talk page: I had been looking for Wikipedians that were deserving of the award, but the process takes time, so I had managed to award it to only one person ([[User:172|172]]). I had not gotten around to New Zealand-related articles though. And I take the opportunity to thank you for the Diligence Barnstar. I am honored! :) I too will be displaying the award in my user page. Regards, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 01:00, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:::Thanks for bringing the mixup to my attention. I can't believe I did that! All I can say, in [[Homer Simpson]]'s words, is: D'Ho!! Thanks again. Regards, [[User:Redux|Redux]] 16:50, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
==In recognition...==
In recognition of your persistent dedication to the community on [[Wikipedia_talk:Barnstars_on_Wikipedia]], I hereby award you with the '''The Barnstar of Diligence''' – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 20:58, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Thank you! Another one! I shall move it to my user page! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
==[[Iff]]==
I noticed that you changed [[User:Zocky|Zocky]]'s "iff" to "if" at [[Category talk:Substubs]]. That probably wasn't a typo. "[[Iff]]" is used to indicate "if and only if". [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>∅</font> ]] 08:22, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Oops - okay, I'd assumed it was a typo. Despite having studied logic in Introductory Philosophy at university, I've never come across ''iff'' before. Sorry about that! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
==RfC==
Hello there. I am recently being listed on RfC. Feel free to comment as you wish to. I regard it as a way out and to have the matter settled. Thanks. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 12:50 Mar 1 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for that - and gracious of you to mention the fact, given that my comments were not likely to be glowingly positive. (As it was, they were negative, but not damningly so). [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
Thanks a lot for sharing your views. It does not matter whether it's positive or negative. We're all working on to improve Wikipedia. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 00:19 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
The sharing at [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Instantnood|RfC]] seems to be over. I have made a response there. Please take a look. I do hope that with everyone's effort Wikipedia will soon be the best encyclopedia ever. :-D — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 21:09 Mar 5 2005 (UTC)
==Taiwan-stub==
Would it be possible to keep <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Taiwan-stub|Taiwan-stub]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>, although it will only have a few articles after being reorganised? A consensus can be reached a little bit more easily. A separate <nowiki>{{ROC-stub}}</nowiki> can be created when the requirement is meet. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 01:22 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
:I don't see why it shouldn't be kept, although it won't have many items in it. As I think you've said yourself elsewhere, the numbers requirement is for the creation of new stubs, not the deletion of old ones. It's also one of the reasons why I'm concentrating on geo-stubs first. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
I see. Coz I guess it will be more controversial to reorganise them as one single <nowiki>{{sino-stub}}. People such as Mababa may not agree. In her/his opinion saying Taiwan is (or isn't) part of China the geographical region is also POV. I could anticipate some contributors will just put on the {{stub}} tag for ROC- or Taiwan-related stubs, to avoid the {{sino-stub}}, like what was done to {{china-geo-stub}}</nowiki>. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 09:05 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
:Well, yes and no. After all, countries in the same geographic area are opften grouped together in the stubs. MEast-geo-stub, for instance, has Israel, Iraq, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other countries lumped together which are at least as disparate and controversial in their relationships with each other as Taiwan/RoC and ChinaPR. I could easily see someone suggesting a Balkans-stub, too, for articles dealing with Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, and the like. Maybe Sino-stub is the wrong name (EastAsia-stub, perhaps, which would allow for Korean articles, too?) but given the often overlapping and joint histories of the two Chinas, it might make more sense to categorise them together than have some articles with two different stubs because they relate to both places (an article like [[Kuo Min Tang]], for instance). [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
I'm not sure if some people will agree with sino- or eastasia-. Sino- might not be appropriate to some people who supports [[desinicization|desinicisation]]. If Korea do not have to be included perhaps [[Greater China|greaterchina]]- can aslo be one of the options, but it also has the problem of sino-. — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 16:27 Mar 2 2005 (UTC)
== Iran Geo Stub ==
The general design of the Iranian flag predates the current version. This is the first time I hear anyone worrying about using the tri-colour without the post-1979 signs. Even in Iran, and under the Islamic Republic, the tri-colour design is used for advertisement, etc. Using the emblem may be appropriate for governmental stubs, but given its sensitive nature and association with the Islamic Republic is not appropriate for a geographical stub. [[User:Kaveh|<nowiki></nowiki>]] – [[User:Kaveh|'''K'''aveh]] <sup>([[User_talk:Kaveh|talk]])</sup>[[User_talk:Kaveh|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 06:06, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
: Yes, for example, [[Image:Iranian_Flag_(pre-1979).jpg|30px]] is the pre-1979 version. The simple tri-colour design is the neutral alternative to the Islamic Republic and Royal versions. [[User:Kaveh|<nowiki></nowiki>]] – [[User:Kaveh|'''K'''aveh]] <sup>([[User_talk:Kaveh|talk]])</sup>[[User_talk:Kaveh|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 06:24, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== My geo-stub fumblings ==
You appear to be (sort of) following my fumbling attempts at sorting geo-stubs and refining them.
Thank you for doing a good job.
I seem to be working off [[Wikipedia:Stub categories#Place-related, by region|an out-of-date list]] of geo-stubs: do you know where there is a more up-to-date list?
Basically I'm trying to chip the corners off [[:category:stub]] and knowing that there are people who can polish up my efforts helps a great deal.
HAND
--[[User:Phil Boswell|Phil]] | [[User talk:Phil Boswell|Talk]] 07:32, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
:There are two that I know of - at the top of [[:Category:Geography stubs]], and on one of my user pages ([[User:Grutness/Stubs]]), which lists all the stub categories. I'm hoping to get the latter completed and into the Wikipedia proper as soon as I can! As to "geo-stub fumblings", just adding geo-stub is a help, although learning one or two of the most common geo-stubs (like UK-geo-stub and US-geo-stub) would help more :) [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::Those ones I can just about handle :-) I hate to feed the "systematic-bias" trolls, but it does seem that North America and Europe are very well-covered, whilst Asia and Africa are less so. Maybe ignorami like me need a more easy-to-understand list, given that half the time I'm not certain what continent some of these places are on :-( --[[User:Phil Boswell|Phil]] | [[User talk:Phil Boswell|Talk]] 07:53, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
:You're right, they are... there are considerably more articles from some of those places... but the systematic bias is at least in part because the English-language Wikipedia is bound to have more people from English-speaking countries. Go to the japanese Wikipedia, say, and you'll probably find more Far East stubs. As to remembering which one is what, if in doubt try 'Countryname-geo-stub' and preview. If it doesn't work, then just leave it at geo-stub. That will still cut the workload down by a huge amount :). [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== stub categories ==
hi, having sorted a lot of stubs recently i believe the need for a socio- (sociology) stub and a job- stub is becoming critical, as i really dont know how could you create these? i know in theory you're supposed to wait a week or so to see the reaction to proposed stubs, but i believe they are obviously needed, thanks in advance Bluemoose 10:56, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Okay - I've created one of them for now (I'm a bit short of time today... I can do the other one later). <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Job-stub|job-stub]]}} is up and running, though. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
::Thanks a lot Grutness, on my talk page you said "PS - if you sign your name <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> it'll be easier to get in touch with you! It automatically puts a link to your user page and the current time.", this is something i have been confused by, because i do sign my name like that, it just doesnt link it up, do you have any idea why this might be? thanks again Bluemoose 08:57, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Hm. Bear with me while I try something... if it doesn't work, it's something to ask at [[Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)]]
::It was an option in my preferences ("Raw signatures"), whoops!, p.s. tool-stub is a good idea. [[User:Bluemoose|Bluemoose]] 10:21, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC) <= Yay!
== Calcutta page move ==
There is discussion at [[Talk:Calcutta]] of a proposed move to "Kolkata". You may wish to contribute your thoughts.
==[[Searles Castle]]==
Thank you for "de-stubbing" this article. Just curious though - how did you find (locate) it? [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 19:15, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
::I guess I did some writing with a lot of copyedit from [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]].
== Please give me a hand ==
* Halló Grutness! I realized that you are a administrator at [[:en:]]. I do not have the time to read all the rules here and would be happy if you could help me
# regarding the "stealth" templates [[Template:Interwikiconflict]] see [[Wikipedia:Template:Interwikiconflict]] and [[Template:Invalidtitle]] see [[Wikipedia:Template:Invalidtitle]]. I do not expect oposition but my personal opinion is that not everybody should work on this subjects.
# regarding some [[Template:Disambiguation|disambiguations]] I added at some discussion pages. See [[Talk:Colentina]], [[Talk:Melnik]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Disambiguation&from=Talk Category:Disambiguation&from=Talk].
* Hope to be able to address additional items. Thanks in advance! Best regards [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri]] | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:User talk:Gangleri|action=history}} Th] | [[{{ns:User_talk}}:Gangleri|T]] 18:30, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)
== User:Vaoverland - [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrator]] ==
Thank you for supporting my appointment as an [[Wikipedia:Administrators|administrator]]. I appreciate the pat on the back this represents. It felt nice to read the comments during the voting. Please let me know if you see something I should be doing as admin, as I intend to be fairly passive unless it is clear I should do otherwise. Thanks. Mark in Richmond. [[User:Vaoverland|Vaoverland]] 20:06, Mar 6, 2005 (UTC)
== news stub ==
Sorry - I didn't mean to remove the old icon. Thanks for fixing it. – [[User:Quadell|Quadell]] <sup>([[User_talk:Quadell|talk]]) ([[Wikipedia:Image sleuthing|sleuth]])</sup> 01:55, Mar 9, 2005 (UTC)
:S'alright. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
==stubby goodness==
Yes, I realized after doing a couple of those that it was intentional for them not to all be in one category. Here I thought it would be *useful* to also note them as stubs. :) Missed reverting that change; thanks for the catch. [[User:Sj|+sj ]][[User Talk:Sj|<font color="#ff6996">+</font>]] 06:11, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
: btw, see [[WP:HC]] and tell me what you think.
:: yes, that's why I asked. What if it's done via categories rather than templates? categorizing everything according to which HC category it falls under... [[User:Sj|+sj ]][[User Talk:Sj|<font color="#ff6996">+</font>]] 05:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
: mmm. not sure. ''Could'' work, I suppose, but that might also put strain on the servers. I honestly don't know the mechanics of it, but I know that categories with over about 500 articles in them are usually regarded with some concern by the techs. Might be an idea to run this one past [[Wikipedia: Village pump (technical)]]. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
== Question on Category Combinatorial principles ==
I am in a process of building '''Category:Combinatorial principles''' and you just deleted it. Is there any reason why it should be destroyed?
Is there any other way I can group these articles?
Sorry, I am relatively new to this system but I think
I know something about combinatorics. [[User:Tomo|Tomo]] 00:43, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry if I trod on your toes - but I didn't delete it. What you were building was an article - and it's still there, as [[Combinatorial principles]]. Categories are simply there to list articles that are related, not to write about what the categories are for. As for the category itself, it's still there, but empty. It would only ever have had eight articles, if [[Combinatorial principles]] is to be believed, which isn't really sufficient for a separate category, especially since its parent category only has about 80 articles. If you wish to repopulate it with articles, feel free - it just didn't seem a viable category. Oh, and categories are never stubs - the correct template to use for an underpopulated category is [[Template:popcat]] [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 04:54, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I wish I knew you about the articla [[Combinatorial principles]]. My intention was not to write an article but just to give temporary information to all who would want to help me
in my little project. Now I realized that I should have used [[Template:popacat]]. But this means someone should make this template more popular in various help pageg, gudelines pages, [[User:Tomo|Tomo]] 06:58, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:You're probably right about that. Still, there's a basic guideline on Wikipedia is that if something is worth a category, it should at the very least have an article about it, so having the article was a good idea anyway! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]]
==Kula==
Umm... I don't really know who to ask to I'll ask you. Do you think [[kula]] belongs in the Wikipedia dictionary rather than the encyclopedia? There is nothing encyclopedic about this article in my view. [[User:Mona-Lynn|Mona-Lynn]] 09:02, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
== Question on Category Combinatorial principles II ==
Since I am new, I do not know even know if this is the rigth way to
communicate.
What I would like to have is two types of links, say
#[[bla bla]]
and
#[[See also:bla bla]]
that would automatically create a cross reference in both articles.
If such a tool exists, please let me know. [[User:Tomo|Tomo]] 10:10, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
==Geostubs==
I am sorry to make you busy around. I didn't mean to be annoying and objecting about this and that, but there's something I cannot always compromise. Anyways I guess the problem will be solved very soon. :-D — [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 16:16, Mar 10, 2005 (UTC)
== [[Jupe]] ==
Could you please read the HTML comment right at the top of the article before you start editing next time? I don't mean it in a bad way, but the comment is there and it's quite clear. --[[User:Sn0wflake|Sn0wflake]] 19:23, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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