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[[Image:ghostship.jpg|thumb|The Ghost Ship starring Richard Dix]]
A '''newbie''' is a [[wiktionary:newcomer|newcomer]] to a particular field, the term being commonly used on the [[Internet]], where it might refer to new users of a [[game]], a [[newsgroup]], the Internet itself, or an [[operating system]].
'''''The Ghost Ship''''' is a [[black-and-white]] [[1943 in film|1943]] film starring [[Richard Dix]]. The film was directed by [[Mark Robson]] and produced by [[Val Lewton]] for RKO Pictures.
 
A young officer joins the crew of a ship. At first, the captain (Dix) seems OK, but as the cruise goes forward a few deaths of crewmen occur. The young officer comes to believe that the captain, who is obsessed with authority, is responsible. At the first port, he attempts to reveal the captain as a madman but no one believes him and the young officer is fired. Unfortunately, while walking the streets he becomes involved in a fight and one of his old crew members, not knowing he was kicked off the ship, returns the unconsious man back on the ship before it steams from port. The officer wakes up on the ship and now realizes that the crazy captain may try to kill him out of revenge.
It can be both a disparaging and friendly term, always referring to a neophyte, or someone who behaves as such. The word itself is likely a corruption of ''new boy''; a new arrival in a school and who is, therefore, vulnerable to bullying of various kinds. On [[Google]]'s [[Usenet]] archive, the word first appears in [[1988]] [http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac/browse_thread/thread/f94c1a437ac39f3d/68659de9d2d8e42d?q=newbie&_done=%2Fgroups%3Fhl%3Den%26ie%3DUTF-8%26safe%3Doff%26num%3D10%26q%3Dnewbie%26qt_s%3DSearch+Groups%26as_drrb%3Db%26as_mind%3D1%26as_minm%3D1%26as_miny%3D1987%26as_maxd%3D4%26as_maxm%3D1%26as_maxy%3D1989%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#68659de9d2d8e42d].
The term was used prior to this as slang in the [[U.S. Military]] to denote men who had finished technical school and were just arriving to their first permanent assignment.
 
==Trivia==
*RKO tasked producer Lewton to make a sea-based film because the studio had a ship set already built after the making of the film ''Pacific Liner'' in 1938.
 
*The films producer Lewton was sued for plagiarism when it was claimed that the script was based on a play that was submitted to Lewton for a possible film. Lewton desputed the claim, but after a court case, the court ruled against him. ''The Ghost Ship'' was withdrawn from circulation and the film was unavailable for viewing for fifty years.
==Discouraging newbies==
In some contexts, such as on Usenet and in multiplayer video games, being a newbie is discouraged. Newbies may ask questions that seem extremely simple to experienced users, or disrupt normal order with their lack of skills or etiquette in a certain type of technology. For example, video game players may dislike newbies because they think newbies will hurt or bring down the collective efforts of a team game. Usenet posters may dislike newbies for bringing up off-topic discussion or violating [[netiquette]].
 
*The film was released as part of the ''Val Lewton Horror Collection'' DVD set in 2005, despite the fact that the film is not a horror movie.
In some groups, the term "newbie" is used by experienced users to refer to any newcomer, whether the newcomer acts ignorantly or not. In this case, the regulars assert their position with a sort of [[hazing]] (sometimes called [[pwn]]ing in video games).
==Cast==
*[[Richard Dix]] as Captain Will Stone
*[[Russell Wade]] as Tom Merriam, 3rd Officer
*[[Edith Barrett]] as Ellen Roberts
 
== See also ==
Referring to regular members as newbies is often considered to be highly insulting. The implication is that they are behaving as if they do not know the rules when in fact they have had more than sufficient opportunity to learn them.
''[[Ghost Ship]]'' is an unrelated 2002 horror film.
 
==External links==
In some [[Computer_role-playing_game|MMORPG]]s a newbie is anyone who is lower-leveled than the person making the remark, regardless of actual time spent playing the game. (for example, a level 60 player in [[World of Warcraft]] may consider a level 30 player a newbie). Some forums and [[Computer_role-playing_game|MMORPG]]s have banned some of the more common spelling variations ("newb," "noob", "n00b") in an attempt to reduce flame wars. This has led, of course, to more variations.
*[http://www.missinglinkclassichorror.co.uk/index.htm The Missing Link review]
 
[[Category:1943 films|Ghost Ship, The]]
Also, some people consider the term "newb" to refer to someone who is new to something, and is therefore not very good at it, while a "noob" is someone who knows the right thing to do, but acts idiotic and stupid anyway.
 
People who discourage newbies may differentiate between the words ''newbie'' and ''n00b''. Using these terms, a "newbie" is someone who follows all protocols and essentially acts like an established user but still in the process of learning, while a "n00b" is an obnoxious person who has not even considered that they might be irritating others.
 
==Encouraging newbies==
 
It is often a personal choice within a community whether to discourage or encourage newbies. For example, some [[GNU/Linux]] users may discourage non-technical users who try to install GNU/Linux, because supporting these users will be difficult and the newbies may be dissatified in the long run. On the other hand, some GNU/Linux users may prefer to encourage newbies, because it grows their userbase and may help the newbies learn more about computing.
 
Sometimes, newbies are recognized as the most important members and received with extra attention. Some [[chat room]]s, for example, have established rules to ask "oldies" to first answer the newbies' questions or concerns before resuming their ongoing discussions. Large [[Internet forums]] such as [[2ch]]annel have special boards for newbies to learn the basics of chatting on that forum.
 
Other communities do not treat newbies with a significantly elevated status, but do greet most of the friendly newbies with welcomes informing them the methods to get help. In these situations, the term is basically synonymous with ''newcomer'' and is meant with or without affection. For example, [[Wikipedia]] has a firm policy of welcoming all new contributors whether or not their first edits are helpful to an encyclopedia. This way, users who make mistakes will be encouraged to learn the rules and keep contributing, rather than provoking censure or anger.
 
The positive interpretation is probably the more recent but has become quite common. The only way to determine the intended connotation is to examine the context.
 
Individuals may refer to themselves as newbies in a self-deprecating manner or in acknowledgment of their newcomer status, which may (or may not) lessen the amount of harassment they receive. This may have negative or a positive connotations, depending on the standards of the community.
 
==Noob or n00b==
 
A noob, n00b, nub, or [[über|übern00b]] is a newbie who claims to know a lot about a subject, but really does not. Also, genreally n00bs have a sort of false belief in their own knowledge, and often refuses to acknowledge a differing point of view, especially if it points out fallacies in their claims. They often show off their false skills to gain a reputation. The term is usually meant to be offensive. It was first used in [[hacker]] groups on the [[Bulletin board system|BBS]] chat systems in the [[1970s]]. It is important to note that noob and newb are not necessarily interchangeable.
 
The spelling ''noob'' or ''n00b'', while originally having a specific meaning, is now generally used to refer to all forms of newbies, usually in a joking manner. In a context where ''newbie'' means simply ''new'', ''n00b'' may sometimes be used as the derogatory equivalent. Most of the time, though, it is generally consigned that 'n00b' be used to describe only those with false claims of knowledge about a particular subject, and vehemently argues against any opposing viewpoints.
 
In online gaming, the term is also often used as a general insult. Frustrated players on the losing team may refer to the winning team as noobs. In this case, there is no actual connotation of newness meant, the word is simply being used as an insult. Equally, members of a dominating team use the term "noobs" (n00bs) to further frustrate their opposition by implying a general lack of skill on the losing team's part.
 
==Noob Talk==
 
An underground joke is "Noob talk" or "NOB TAKL". Noob talk is when an individual uses harsh spelling errors and terrible punctuation to insult noobs. A lot of "real" noob talk is found on games such as ''[[Gunbound]]'' or ''[[Ragnarok Online]]''. An example of this dialect is "ITAM PLEX" (translated into "Items Please"). Noob talk is fairly simple to grasp: one makes numerous spelling mistakes and overuses common Internet abbreviations. It is easy to discern when somebody is jocularly using noob talk if they do things such as add words like ''BBQ'' after ''LOL'' and add ''1111oneone'' after an exclamation mark. Newblicon, nooblicon, and newbsicle are also variations.
 
An example would be: omfgwtfbbq noob!
 
Or a more extended example: ! r0Xx0rz l!k3 4 1337 h4xX0r5 4nd FU n00b ch33k 0u7 /\/\y VV3b 5!t3 l1k3 n0VV 1337133713371337 n00b!! i ! 4M JW 4k4 H0b4r7 t3h 1337 haxX0rz u n00b<br>
(Translation: I rock like a [[leet]] [[Leet#Leet_slang|haxor]] and fuck you, noob. Check out my web site like now, leetleetleetleet noob. I am JW [[List_of_acronyms_and_initialisms:_A#AK|a.k.a.]] Hobart the leet haxor, you noob. See [[Leet]].)
 
== Noob as a verb ==
 
The verb "noob" means "to own ([[pwn]] in some cases) someone like a noob." Noob is not necessarily a derogatory verb, but can be depending on the context. For instance: if person A beats person B to the point where person B looked like a newbie in comparison, person A noobed person B. Anywhere person A could say they owned or beat person B like person B was a noob or newbie, person A noobed person B.
 
It is also possible to hear the verb used in the opposite context. If person A is new to the game or does not play well and beats person B on a lucky chance, then person B may say that they "got noobed", especially if he or she is an excellent player. Noob as a derogatory verb is therefore not hard to grasp, as it is merely an extension of its noun and adjective counterparts.
 
"Noobing" is also seen as a verb by "using your "uber [[l33t]]" skills to "[[pwn]]" unsuspecting noobs." This is common in online games, such as [[Starcraft]] or [[Warcraft]].
 
== See also ==
 
*[[AOL]]
*[[Chainik]]
*[[Choob]]
*[[Luser]]
*[[Wannabe]]
*[[Smacktard]]
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