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To try and ensure some level of design consistency throughout Wikipedia the '''template standardisation''' page explains how talk page templates should appear. Currently a work in progress, the designs and guidance set out below are based on [[/vote|a vote]]. While this is not a firm policy it is advised that any new talk templates should be based on the standard design.
The '''Cosmic Ray Deflection Society''' is a satirical/environmental [[pseudoscientific]] organization, based in [[New Orleans]], [[Louisiana]]. A worldwide membership of over 250 members, the group believes the "deadly cosmic rays" are getting in through the hole in the ozone layer.
==Current situation==
[[Image:Coffeeroll.png|right|thumb|200px|The chosen template.]]
Now the vote has taken place the chosen scheme, "[[User:ClockworkSoul/Templates|ClockworkSoul's Coffee Roll]]", is open to final comments before it is fully implemented around the end of '''[[4 May]] [[2005]]'''. You are welcome to add any suggestions for tweaks to the design (including images, size, colours, text style and borders) – such ideas may be worked into the scheme if they gather enough support, but radical changes will most likely not now occur. Comments about the exact written content of the templates should wait until they are implemented and then discussed on the relevant talk page.
Bands [[Plan 9|Plan Nine]] and [[Eugene Chadbourne]] have dedicated songs to the society.
Not all templates have a design made for them – this will happen over time and, in some cases, with further discussion with the relevant parties.
==History==
===Wording discussions===
This is a list of templates with further discussions about its individual content:
*{{tl|facfailed}}
Organized in May of [[1984]], cosmic ray deflecting as a mental attitude was first realized in the fall of [[1973]] when reports first came out on the impending destruction of the [[ozone hole|ozone layer]].
===Comments and suggestions===
From the official website:
Two comments:
:"Knowing, that in some future time, when the [[ozone layer]] has been further destroyed by man-made chemicals such as [[Chlorofluorocarbon]] and exhaust fumes, the earth and its inhabitants will be mercilessly bombarded by deadly [[cosmic rays]], the [http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1483/ Cosmic Ray Deflection Society of North America, Inc.] has been organized to discover ways of surviving the coming onslaught...Krudzna Ink is a loosely knit organization of crazed, forward thinking [[environmentalists]] dedicated to the survival of the [[human race]] in general, and life on the planet in particular..."
# On the featured article template, community consensus has been anthromorphised. Perhaps it should be reworded to "as the Wikipedia community, through [[link here|consensus]], has identified it as one of the best articles produced."
# The survived VfD says "This has article" - redundant word "has".
In order to save themselves, members believe:
Good job! [[User:Talrias|Talrias]] ([[User_talk:Talrias|t]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Talrias|e]] | [[Special:Contributions/Talrias|c]]) 23:06, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
:"An Anti-Cosmic Ray Suit (ACRaS) would be constructed! Man-made items that are really unnecessary and have no real value for our lives were attached to a hat and a shirt... By believing the collection of trinkets, tickets, plastics, toys, auto parts, jewelries, beads, buttons, and other trivial items would repel the cosmic rays, the CRs were actually repelled!!!"
Members of the group call the point at which the cosmic rays actually start being repelled '''Critical Mass''':
: Heya, Talrias. Thanks for the observations and the kind words. I fixed the extraneous "has" that you noticed, but I'm going to listen for a few days before I propose a new wording on any templates. – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 00:19, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
: "As you attach each piece to your cosmic ray deflection item be it hat, shirt, car, house, shield or footgear, you think that this will be the item that gives you critical mass...At some point it actually starts happening!!! We hope..."
Members also practice unexpected behaviors, according to the [[Dysonberg Confusion Principle]].
Congrats, Clockwork. Only change I would make would be a very slight paling of the cell bgcolor. It's a totally subjective thing of course, but I think it goes a way toward staying in harmony with the monobook stylings while still demarcing the template from random Talk page stuff. So, I'd change the current <table><tr><td bgcolor="#F8EABA">#F8EABA</td><td> to </td><td bgcolor="#FFFFBF">#FFFFBF</td></tr></table>Of course, I think we're going to have to really thresh out the wording of the main FA template. If I understood Talrias correctly, this will be done after the new design is live? [[User:JDG|JDG]] 23:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
The society's motto is ''The Hat Comes First''. The triangle formed with thumbtips and the tips of two first first fingers is the secret sign to remember ozone, O3 protects all.
:As this is the standardisation page I think it would be inadvisable to discuss specific wordings here. Furthermore there is already some discussion about this topic at individual template talk pages and we should look at, and expand, those. [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 23:48, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Since the early days of cosmic ray deflection, several [[art cars]], or Cosmic Ray Deflection Motor Vehicles, have joined the growing collection of CR items. Members are now working on a Cosmic Ray House and Garden with patio in New Orleans, as well as shields for urbanwear.
::Why would we continue to discuss on scattered pages of proposed templates no longer in the running? Talrias, are you a sort of organizer here? If so, please tell us where and when to discuss wording. [[User:JDG|JDG]] 00:27, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
The organization played an important role in the [[1996]] [[Black World Wide Web protest]] and the follow up [[Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign]]. As a result, free speech issues were added to the organization's activities.
:::It's me that's organised it. The discussion should take place at, for example, {{tl|featured}} once (now) the scheme is implemented, not the development/design pages of those articles in peoples' user space. As you are aware there are already discussions at the talk pages of those templates and we should continue them. The wording of one template isn't really a "standardisation" issue, hence me looking at not holding the discussion here. [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 07:58, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
==Membership==
:::: I think a good reason to have the discussion here is that now it has been changed, there will be lots of people looking at this page. So I propose discussing it on the template talk page but having a clear link from here to where it should be discussed. [[User:Talrias|Talrias]] ([[User_talk:Talrias|t]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Talrias|e]] | [[Special:Contributions/Talrias|c]]) 08:25, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
The only requirements for membership into the CRDSNA is to build an anti-cosmic ray headpiece, (ACRaH.) and to attempt to read [[Dhalgren]] by [[Samuel Delany]] and [[The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test]] test by [[Tom Wolfe]].
A local chapter is approved by getting three members to make ACRaHs. Local chapters hold monthly covered dish meetings to help build a Cosmic Ray Cookbook for future publication. Chapters are urged to adopt a local [[outsider art]]ist and help see to their daily needs on an ongoing basis. Chapter activities include promoting local [[environmental]] and [[free speech]] issues. [[Robert's Rules of Order]] govern all meetings.
:::::See the new section above. [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 08:22, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
==External links==
:: My bedroom was that exact shade of canary yellow when I was a very little Clockwork. If I remember correctly, it had puppies and kitties painted on it too. :) I'm very open to working on the wording, but I want to wait a day or two for some more proposals to come in before I update it. – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 00:24, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
* [http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1483/ Official Cosmic Ray Deflection Society of North America, Inc.]
* [http://wymple.gs.net/~aaswell/long.jpg CRDS patio plans]
* [http://www.barristersgallery.com/also_aswell.htm CRDS shields planned]
==Chapters==
:::Sounds like a nice room. When I was a tiny JDG my room was done up in a brilliant jungle scheme. Not a good idea. My dreams are still neon bright... Clockwork, don't take this wrong, but I wouldn't say it's a question of your being open to changed wording. It was understood from the start that the voting was on aesthetic formatting and that new text would be a separate process, including a vote if necessary. I hope it's not necessary, but I feel new wording is at least as important as new design, and I hope Talrias or whoever sets up a clear, well-attended place for discussion....Hmm, re-reading Clockwork's above comment, are you saying my proposed new color looks "Canary yellow" to you? On my screen it just looks like a little more milk has been poured into the coffee, which is what I intended. But I'm on a cheapish laptop LCD monitor at the moment. [[User:JDG|JDG]] 00:34, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*[http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/1483/ New Orleans, La.]
*[http://www.cofc.edu/~jonesl/crds.html Charleston, SC]
::::I would ''not'' want to drink that coffee. --[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 00:47, 2 May 2005 (UTC) (it's yellow)
*[http://www.brightss.com/SimonRodia/pdfs/watts6.pdf San Francisco, Ca.] PDF
*Greensboro, NC
:::::My screen must be tricking me. Could one of you come up with a "Lite Coffee" color? [[User:JDG|JDG]] 01:15, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
*Atlanta, Ga.
::::::I like the background colour as it is now. It does seem like a "Lite Coffee" colour to me. Perhaps <span style="background-color: #f8eecc;">#F8EECC</span> seems better, though? [[User:Ben Babcock|Ben Babcock]] 01:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
:::: I also voted with this understanding. I hope now we can come to a consensus on wording. I don't think wording is so subjective as the design, so a vote on it shouldn't be necessary. See my comment above for where I think we should discuss it. [[User:Talrias|Talrias]] ([[User_talk:Talrias|t]] | [[Special:Emailuser/Talrias|e]] | [[Special:Contributions/Talrias|c]]) 08:18, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
::::: I don't think that we'll have any real difficulty with the wording. We all seem to be thinking along the same lines. I'll be able to work on it with you all tonight. At the moment, it's 5:17 am EST, and I'm slaving away on a research paper due at 11 am. Speaking of coffee... – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 09:17, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
:::I'm also curious about the creation of an additional template. It strikes me that we need a "previous COTW" template to stay on the page for posterity, just like the facfailed, and peer review and that kind of thing. Just to further document it's development. Currently there's no template at all (and thus no wording). --[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 00:38, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
::::Create one and then discuss it at [[WP:COTW]] – I think it'd get support, and I certainly think it's a good idea. [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 07:58, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
:I don't like the coffee color, either.
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Eh. The yellow is only very slightly different, but I think it goes a little better with the monobook grays and blues. - [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 03:29, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
* It's more than very slightly different. It's the color of [[sulfur]], and I don't think that it's very attractive... :/ – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 03:36, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
*:Actually, sulfur ([[Image:Sulfur.jpg|50px]]) is more of a <span style="background-color: #D3D301;">#D3D301</span>, according to [[the GIMP]]. I think it's kind of pretty, but not as a color for templates... - [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:41, May 3, 2005 (UTC)
*On my laptop's [[LCD]], the two colors are very similar, both a light tan. On my desktop's [[CRT]] monitor, #FFFFBF is yellow, while the original color is a "coffee with cream" color. --[[User:Carnildo|Carnildo]] 05:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
The colors above seem a bit strong. How about toning it down to something like ece8c9, like with [[:Template:Oldpeerreview]]. -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 14:12, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
====Other templates====
{{tl|TrollWarning}}, {{tl|Cleanup taskforce notice}}, {{tl|Cleanup taskforce closed}} and {{tl|Cleanup taskforce 1911}} have since ben redone to follow this. Would we want to eventually have ALL the talk page templates to follow these standards? [[User:Circeus|Circeus]] 17:58, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
:Uniformity never hurts... but a suggestion for {{tl|TrollWarning}}: maybe the "comment" exclamation mark image would look better than the hand? [[Image:Australia_flag_large.png|30px]] [[User:Plattopus|plattopus]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Plattopus|talk]]</small></sup> 18:21, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
==Chosen scheme==
The following standards of design have been chosen:
*Background colour of #F8EABA and border colour (1px solid) is #C0C090
*Use of a table, not divs, and using two columns: one for an image, one for the text
*Size is 85% width and the whole template is centred
*Cell spacing is 5px
*The margin seperating the templates is 3px
See the template <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:standard template style|standard template style]]}}. Template tables can be created as follows:
<pre>
<nowiki>
{| {{standard template style}}
|-
|align="center"| [[Image:icon.png|alt text]]
|align="center"| Template text
|}
</nowiki>
</pre>
:Is the centered text justification considered part of the standard? [[User:JDG|JDG]] 22:22, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
::It's part of the design, but there are some cases where centering is not desirable, such as the "[[User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/press|cited as a source]]" template. – [[User:ClockworkSoul|Clockwork]][[User talk:ClockworkSoul|'''Soul''']] 03:06, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
===Featured===
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/fac}}
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/featured}}
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/farc}}
===Peer review===
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/oldpeerreview}}
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/peerreview}}
===WikiProjects===
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/chemistry}}
===Other===
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/oldvfd}}
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/press|author=Foo|date=Today|title=Foo|org=Wikipedia|url=http://en.wikipedia.org|section=Example}}
{{User:ClockworkSoul/Templates/comment|The above peer review and FAC highlighted that this article is actually quite rubbish}}
{{chembox simple organic}} The abovementioned [[wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry]], and notably the [[wikipedia:Chemical infobox|Chemical Infobox workgroup]] is considering to fall in with the ClockWorkSoul Coffee Roll colour scheme. Using just the style in the [[infobox]] table will give an infobox without dividing horizontal lines, so we enhanced the scheme to include some dividers within the table as well. See as an example the <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[template:chembox simple organic|chembox simple organic]]}} infobox template here.
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