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'''Middle English Lyric''' is a [[genre]] of [[English Literature]], popular in the 14th Century, that is characterized by its brevity and emotional expression. Conventionally, the lyric expresses "a moment," usually spoken or performed in the first person. Although some lyrics have narratives, the plots are usually simple to emphasize an occasional, common experience. Even though Lyrics appear individual and personal, they are not "original;" instead, lyrics express a common state of mind.
===[[User:CSTAR|CSTAR]]===
 
== Audience ==
'''[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/CSTAR&action=edit Vote here] (16/0/1) ending 19:04, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)'''
Middle English Lyrics were meant to be heard, not read. Keeping in mind an [[aural]] [[audience]], the lyric is usually structured with an obvious rhyme scheme, [[refrain]], and sometimes musical effects. The rhyme scheme primarily functions as a [[mnemonic device]] for the audience. The Refrain, however, has several critical functions. The Refrain gives the lyric unity and provides commentary (this is not unlike the bob and wheel found in ''[[Sir Gawain and the Green Knight]]''). In addition to functioning thematically, the refrain encourages audience to participate in singing the lyric. Finally, Musical Effects also encourage audience participation, and they take the form of rhythms and sounds (for example, [[onomatopoeia]] is not an uncommon [[trope]] employed).
 
== Authorship ==
CSTAR is a very responsible editor. I have not always agreed with the high academic style he uses, but have never seen him do anything but attempt to make positive contributions. - [[User:Taxman|Taxman]] 19:07, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Most Middle English Lyrics are anonymous. Because the lyrics reflect on a sort of "community property" of ideas, the concept of copyrighting a lyric to a particular author is usually inappropriate. Additionally, identifying authors is very difficult. Most lyrics are often un-dateable, and they appear in collections with no apparent organic unity. It is most likely many lyrics that survive today were widely recited in various forms before being written down. Evidence for this appears in [[Geoffrey Chaucer]]'s ''[[The Canterbury Tales]]''. Many of Chaucer's lines bear an uncanny resemblance to Middle English Lyrics.
 
== Survival ==
* Yes, I accept the nomination. Thank you.[[User:CSTAR|CSTAR]] 20:19, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Middle English Lyrics were not meant to be read or written down. Consequently, the few that survive are probably a very small sample of lyrics. Surviving Lyrics appear in [[Miscellanies]], notably the Harley 2253 manuscript. The lyrics often appear with many other types of works, including writings in other languages.
:: P.S. I'm a little confused about the meaning of ''ending 19:04, Nov 16, 2004''. You mean the voting process is over? Did it get approved? Or is the ending date a mistake? [[User:CSTAR|CSTAR]] 18:35, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:::It's supposed to last one week, looks like it was a mistake, now fixed. --[[User:Michael Snow|Michael Snow]] 18:51, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== External Links ==
'''Support'''
[http://www.luminarium.org/medlit/lyrics.htm Middle English Lyrics]
#[[User:Taxman|Taxman]] 19:07, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
#Strong support. A high-class contributor who sets himself perfectionist standards in an impressive range of areas (from [[quantum computer]]s to [[economics]] through [[logic]]). Intellectually tough but peaceful. [[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] 19:15, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#[[User:Mirv|&#8212;No-One]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;''Jones'']]&nbsp;[[Special:Emailuser/Mirv|<sup>(m)</sup>]] 19:17, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#*At the time of writing, the votes show 3/0/0, although 4 people have voted. Possibly the wiki-hacking on Mirv's vote is confusing the counter ---- [[User:Chalst|Charles Stewart]] 20:23, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#**I'm afraid you're mistaken &ndash; there is no "counter"; it's only plain text that is manually updated. [[User:Blankfaze|{{User:Blankfaze/sig}}]] 08:46, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#***Thanks, and I just figured that out myself as well. I'm a virgin WP-voter... ''*blushes*'' ---- [[User:Chalst|Charles Stewart]] 09:22, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#[[User:Chalst|Charles Stewart]]: Strong support. I'm here on Wikipedia principally because I want to turn [[logic]] and its related pages into something of real quality, and CSTAR has, without doubt, been the person who has done more than anyone else to get this slow process underway (''Charles Matthews'' and ''siroxo'' also deserve honourable mentions wrt. this) ---- 19:22, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#I don't know him/her that much, but as far as I can see, CSTAR is a great contributor and deserves my support vote. --[[User:Lst27|Lst27]] [[User talk:Lst27|<font color=purple>(</font><font color=red>t</font><font color=cyan>a</font><font color=violet>l</font><font color=green>k</font><font color=orange>)</font>]] 00:01, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#[[User:172|172]] 06:01, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
# [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 06:53, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#Sure. -- [[User:Grunt|Grun]][[User talk:Grunt|t]] [[European Union|{{User:Grunt/euflag}}]] 19:03, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)
#Good contributor. [[User:Siroxo| ]]&mdash;[[User:Siroxo|<font color=#627562>siro</font>]][[User talk:Siroxo|<font color=#627562>''&chi;''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|<font color=#627562>o</font>]] 22:24, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)
#Yes. CSTAR is one of the more able mathematicians among regular Wikipedians. [[User:Michael Hardy|Michael Hardy]] 23:46, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
#[[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]])[[A| ]] 03:51, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)
# [[User:Wolfman|Wolfman]] 01:42, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
# Well, I don't have any objections, maybe I'll find one and wish I had've before. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 06:25, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
# [[User:Geogre|Geogre]] 20:12, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC) I can count to 20, if I take my shoes off.
# [[User:Slowking Man|Slowking Man]] 01:34, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
# [[User:MikeX|[[User:MikeX|MikeX]] ([[User_Talk:MikeX|Talk]])]] 12:57, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
# [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] 23:44, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC) Looks good.
# [[User:Rspeer|RSpeer]] 23:49, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC) Kudos for not being a VfD addict.
 
== Bibliography ==
'''Oppose'''
Luria, Maxwell S. and Richard L. Hoffman. ''Middle English Lyrics.'' New York: Norton, 1974.<br>
# I'm sure I'm an odd man out, but I think the user page together with the strange user name give hints that do anything but evoking my feelings of confidence. Sorry! /[[User:Tuomas|Tuomas]] 15:10, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
<nowiki>(Large Selection of Lyrics with Selected Criticism)</nowiki>
 
Brown, Carleton Fairchild. ''English Lyrics of the XIIIth Century.'' Ed. Carleton Brown. Oxford: The Clarendon press, [1965, c1932].
'''Neutral'''
# - [[User:Amgine|Amgine]] 06:01, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
Gray, Douglas. ''Themes and Images in the Medieval English Religious Lyric.'' London, Boston: Routledge and K. Paul, 1972.
 
Manning, Stephen. ''Wisdom and Number; Toward a Critical Appraisal of the Middle English Religious Lyric.'' Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1962.
'''Comments'''
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Reiss, Edmund. ''The Art of the Middle English Lyric; Essays in Criticism.'' Athens: University of Georgia Press, 1972.
'''Questions for the candidate'''<br />
''A few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:''<br>
:'''1.''' What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? (Please read the page about [[Wikipedia:administrators|administrators]] and the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]].)
::'''A'''. Of course, rapid revert of vandalism. Besides that, I don't anticipate doing anything too noticeable right away until I have a better sense of how to use admin privileges.
::*Just a comment on why I think CSTAR getting admin privileges would be good for the logics pages: at the moment, the only person I know who is both well-informed about logic and has admin privileges is Charles Matthews, and he has his work cut out with mathematics. So if, as is looking rather likely, CSTAR gets sysop privileges, he will be a much better person to do the little things that need these, (eg. undoing inadvisable moves). I'm quite sure this would be a good thing for Wikipedia ---- [[User:Chalst|Charles Stewart]] 12:14, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:'''2.''' Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
::'''A'''. [[Quantum circuit]]. There doesn't seem to be any online resource for this, so I think it fills a critical need. I also like [[Model_(economics)|Economic model]]. This was actually initiated by [[User:Taxman|Taxman]], but I made various contributions to it. I considered this as an important foundational element in articles relating to economic reasoning (i.e. [[logical argument]] applied to social science).
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and will deal with it in the future?
::'''A'''. Articles involving any aspect of American foreign policy are sometimes difficult to balance (see for instance [[Operation Just Cause]]), although I've never had a conflict that resulted in an edit war. The [[EPR Paradox]] article was another delicate one due to the divergent views of one contributor. I think eventually got resolved in a satisfactory way by contributions mainly from [[User:CYD|CYD]], [[User:Lethe|Lethe]] and myself who were always in agreement on all the substantive issues. The talk page of that article by the way I think is a gem of collaboration. [[User:CSTAR|CSTAR]] 05:16, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
Speirs, John. ''Medieval English Poetry: the Non-Chaucerian Tradition.'' London: Faber and Faber, 1957.
 
Oliver, Raymond. ''Poems without Names; the English Lyric, 1200-1500.'' Berkeley: University of California Press, 1970.
:'''Re: Username and user page'''. Individuals that vote or express an opinion on this page can use any criterion they like and in fact choice of username or style of homepage (as mentioned by [[user:tuomas|tuomas]] above) is well within the range of perfectly reasonable criteria. For instance, I almost certainly wouldn't vote for somebody that incorporated a name for genitalia in his/her username, or even worse, advocated imperialist policies in the name. However, my username is actually not as devoid of meaning as tuomas suggests. Indeed it refers to [[C*-algebra]]s, which is my preferred mathematical structure for understanding [[quantum mechanics]]. As far as the user page is concerned, it is in part a belief that it is possible for a user's identity in wikipedia (and the net in general) to be completely detached from his/her identity in the brick-and-mortar world. It does free the intellect from the shackles of academic conventionalism. Anyway it's clear tuomas is a bit of a contrarian (as am I by the way) so I don't expect to change any votes, and moreover I am not running for anything. At least we don't use [http://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Diebold Diebold] voting machines to count the votes.[[User:CSTAR|CSTAR]] 23:13, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
Woolf, Rosemary. ''The English Religious Lyric in the Middle Ages.'' Oxford: Clarendon P., 1968.
 
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