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==Miscellaneous==

'''Feel Good Hit Of The Summer''' is the second [[single]] from [[Queens Of The Stone Age]]'s second album, Rated R, [[2000]]. It was released in [[Europe]] in late 2000 and in [[Australia]] in [[2001]].

I don't think that the "Dada Manifesto 2001" should be included in the text. It is obscure and insignificant. It only gets two results on google, both from the actual manifesto website. I've moved it to talk:

It's powerful, instantly recognisable [[bass]] intro also serves as an apt introduction to what is generally an energetic, feel-good and varied album. It's deliberately blatant drug references were initially rejected by the record company, but the band managed to argue their way into having it included on the grounds that it does not promote drug use. The references though are more than likely to be the reason, however, as to why it was not released as a single in the [[US]]. It has something of a cult status amongst the band and their fans, often the opener in their live shows, it appears twice on Rated R, fading in as track nine, a characteristically disorientating, "stoner" technique. It also makes a live-in-the-studio, unorthodox appearance after [[Song For The Deaf]] on the [[2002]] album, Songs For The Deaf.

:[[Dale J. Sprague]] wrote the '''Dada Manifesto 2001''', endorsed by 10 people (as of [[2003]]), at [http://www.nwlink.com/~phoenix/dada-manifesto-2001.htm Phoenix Web Site].

[[Category:Queens of the Stone Age songs]] [[Category:2000 songs]] [[Category:2000 singles]] [[Category:2001 singles]]

--[[User:Snoyes|snoyes]] 16:39, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

:No problem with that. Actually the reason I included it was 1) to show that Dadaism is still alive among some people and 2) the main reason, to have something to fill the "Modern Developments" section, since I think in order to have a section it is a good idea to write at least two paragraphs. :) if u have something to add under the Modern Developments section, feel free to do so. [[User:Optim|Optim]] 17:43, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

sethmahoney, re:"Comments belong in the talk page"-- I thought this was a collaborative encyclopedia where people could contribute their knowledge. I was contributing knowledge. Isn't it a bit ridiculous to say that adherents of dada were trying to achieve a personal understanding of the true nature of the world around them?

:This is a collaborative encyclopedia, and we welcome your contributions. However, since it is an encyclopedia, there are style guidelines. See [[Wikipedia: Manual of style]] if you have questions. If the comment I left when I reverted your edit offended you, try to understand - Wikipedia gets lots of vandalism, and sometimes it can be difficult to tell who is trying to do what.

:As far as your question goes, I'm with you. Its a bit ridiculous to say that the adherents of dada (insofar as the word ''adherents'' applies to the people who produced dada art) were uniformly trying to do anything, much less trying to achieve a personal understanding of the true nature of the world around them. -[[User:Sethmahoney|Seth Mahoney]] 02:14, May 3, 2005 (UTC)

::OK--I wasn't offended per se. I was just trying to imagine what a dada version of the wikipedia definition of dadaism might actually be. Probably, it would have involved deleting the whole thing.

:::Heh, or maybe a blank page, or the word "dada" in big, bold letters, or some common household item made malicious looking, or a big web of string and glass? -[[User:Sethmahoney|Seth Mahoney]] 02:00, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

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==Move?==

Seldom, in 35 years of reading about Dada, have I seen it called "Dadaism", and to me it feels awkward to write "Dadaism". Most often it's called "Dada". A check of "What links here" shows more links (about 150) to "Dada" than "Dadaism" (under 100).

How's about we move "Dadaism" to "Dada" and make "Dadaism" the redirect page? --[[User:Sparkit|sparkit ]] [[User_talk:sparkit|(talk)]] 01:04, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

More...

{{Book reference | Author=West, Shearer | Title=The Bullfinch Guide to Art | Publisher=U.K.: Bloomsbury Publishing Plc | Year=1996 | ID=ISBN 0-8212-2137-X}}, lists "Dada", not "Dadaism."

A search at bartleby.com for "Dadaism", returns "Dada."

A search at dictionary.cambridge.org for "Dadaism," returns "not found."

A search at www.metmuseum.org for "Dadaism," returns four listings. "Dada" returns 17.

--[[User:Sparkit|sparkit ]] [[User_talk:sparkit|(talk)]] 05:20, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

I've requested the move. [[Wikipedia:Requested moves#June 12, 2005|move request]]. --[[User:Sparkit|sparkit ]] [[User_talk:sparkit|(talk)]] 04:52, Jun 12, 2005 (UTC)

* '''Support''' ''&mdash;[[User:Mzajac |Michael]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Mzajac |Z.]]&nbsp;<small>2005-06-17&nbsp;04:49&nbsp;Z</small>''

*'''Support''' move to [[Dada]]. [[User:Decius|Decius]] 06:29, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

{{moved}} The pages were swapped to retain the history (they were merged). [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 18:31, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you! --[[User:Sparkit|sparkit ]] [[User_talk:sparkit|(talk)]] 05:56, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

==removal of the Bonzo Dog Band from the "Related links" section==

Hello, I noticed you removed the Bonzo Dog Band from [[Dada]] on the grounds that the article is about the art movement that finished in the 20s/30s. However, it has a section called ''legacy'' and you haven't removed [[Tom Stoppard]]. Can you explain your reasoning in more detail? Thanks. --[[User:Bodnotbod|bodnotbod]] 05:05, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

:So we meet at last? :-)

:I removed it from the "Related links" section as IMO the Bonzo Dog Band has only secondary and faint relations with Dada, at least in contrast with that section's other links: 1918 Dada Manifesto, Expressionism, Futurism, Modernism, Surrealism etc.

:Arguably, mentioning the band in the legacy section e.g. like this:

::''The British musical group originally named [[Bonzo_Dog_Doo-Dah_Band]] (Doo-Dah being an allusion to Dada) called one song Ready Mades and another The Bride Stripped Bare by Batchelors.''

:could be considered acceptable, though only from a mere formal point of view: the band was influenced by Dada - but then, where would that list end? I suppose hundreds, if not thousends of artist of any kind have been subject to Dada influence or be sympathetic to it. Wikipedia articles should not be [[What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_mirror_or_a_repository_of_links.2C_images.2C_or_media_files|linklists]]. There are some exceptions to the rule for technical articles, but IMO this doesn't apply here.

:So the decision should be about relevancy: is the Bonzo Dog Band relevant enough to the subject to be included? I'm not too happy with the legacy section, IMO it should center on trends and movements inspired by Dada, possibly including artists that made a lasting imprint on art history. I don't think the Bonzo Dog Band falls into that category. Anyway, you should dicuss this here, I might be wrong. ...and fear not: I'm not a Bonzo Dog Band hater. --[[User:Tickle me|Tickle me]] 06:23, 13 October 2005 (UTC)