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:Hi, the main feedback form for training events/editathons that we use is this: [[wmuk:File:Event_feedback_form_template.pdf]]. We have it set up in Survey Monkey so that data can be input and we are able to run summary reports to analyse the results. The form was seen previously by the PE&D team and the feedback was very useful! [[User:Daria Cybulska (WMUK)|Daria Cybulska (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Daria Cybulska (WMUK)|talk]]) 09:03, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
:: A copy of the only survey TWG has done so far can be found [https://docs.google.com/a/fanhistory.com/forms/d/1kvLJYT8tKFmOoK-7mb8yWDc9yojT8b2nEElgwepCQhc/viewform here]. The results have been used in two pieces of research we have done to identify costs related to our work- --[[User:LauraHale|LauraHale]] ([[User talk:LauraHale|talk]]) 18:30, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
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All the forms and documents mentioned and linked above are in Dutch, please let me know if you want anything translated. [[User:Ter-burg|Ter-burg]] ([[User talk:Ter-burg|talk]]) 13:30, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:Ter-burg]], we will let you know if we have any questions. Are you seeking any feedback for your survey questions? [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 19:27, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
::: Yes, [[User:SarahStierch|Sarah]]. If you have any tips for our surveys that would be great. I'm especially interested if there is specific data that would make our events internationally comparable. I've made a lot of progress since this post. We now have a "[[wmnl:Handleiding_projecten|manual]]" on events that leads a volunteer through all necessary steps of setting up an event with a lot of templates and standard forms. These surveys are part of this process.
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== Rationale for the privacy form ==
I can not understand the rationale for having participants in a course/event/edit-a-thon to [[ProgramsGrants:Evaluation_portalEvaluation/Shop/Wikimetrics/Forms|fill a form to opt-in in Wikimetrics]]. In principle I could get any set of random user names from the history of any page, create a CSV file, upload it on Wikimetrics and analyse the users' activity. Without even meeting anybody. So why for events do we need an opt-in form? Again, in principle I could do this kind of analysis downloading the complete dump of a given edition of Wikipedia and write some tools to calculate the some things that Wikimetrics does. All that without asking anybody.
Given this premise, with Wikimedia Italia we organized recently a course for librarians (see the [[:w:it:Progetto:GLAM/Biblioteche/Progetti/Wikipedia_e_bibliotecari:_un_incontro_possibil|project page]]) where every participant created a personal account. We then asked everybody to put their usernames in that page so that we could monitor their progress with Wikimetrics. We did not know about this opt-in form until today and so they have not signed it, even if they have been explicitly warned during the course. What can we do? Thank you. -- [[User:CristianCantoro|CristianCantoro]] ([[User talk:CristianCantoro|talk]]) 11:37, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you [[User:CristianCantoro|Cristian]] for your comment and chance for clarification. You are correct that, in many cases, participant user names are a matter of public record, in that case it may not be necessary, but a matter of operating in a completely open manner in which participants actually approve of their being tracked and monitored via Wikimetrics which make it rather simple to do so. Importantly, Wikimetrics increases accessibility to metric data in a way that user names are transferred to Wikimedia Foundation (internationally to the United States) and to best cover everyones privacy interests and protections we need to allow them to opt in, as well as out, of this monitoring when we know we are collecting usernames explicitly for this purpose. The particular language and guidance for disclosing the who, what, where, and why that have been thoughtfully crafted by the WMF legal team to be sure privacy interests are protected and transparency is upheld. This is a shift in practice that we are working to assist program leaders in coordinating so that the future collection of usernames will best protect all parties interested. The usernames you already have public record of are still useable, we just recommend that you also allow people to opt out should they become aware of this usage of their usernames and wish to be excluded from monitoring (you may want to post the language and possibly instructions for "opting out" on the page they added their names to). I hope this helps, please let me know if I can answer any further. [[User:JAnstee (WMF)|JAnstee (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JAnstee (WMF)|talk]]) 21:58, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
::::Can you perhaps expand on the point you're implying by adding this citation needed tag, Nemo? It's not very helpful on its own. [[User:Jtmorgan|Jtmorgan]] ([[User talk:Jtmorgan|talk]]) 21:43, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
==Wikimania evaluation ==
I am curious, how is Program Evaluation planning to instrument Wikimania and evaluate Wikimania this year? Also, will Program Evaluation provide a guide to Wikimania participants about how to maximize the "impact" of their participation? Some informal discussion about how to get value out of the Wikimania hackathon has already happened on the tech mailing list. Thanks, --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font>]]</font> 19:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
== What was the first GLAM content donation? ==
:Hello Pine. Somehow missed this question. We have been working with the organizers of this year's Wikimania to develop an exit survey similar to that which was done following the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (View their very recent reporting and link to survey data [[Wikimedia_Conference_2014/Feedback_evaluation|here]]). Similarly, the Wikimania survey targets goals of learning, networking and collaboration and will include measurement of the conference content overall; the organization and logistics of the conference; evaluation of the themes and their related content presented in terms of usefulness; participant networking and collaboration; overall learning outcomes; participant satisfaction and basic background demographics. The items are currently under final review and comment with a number of current, past, and future Wikimania planning stakeholders. This survey will also link to an optional set of items to assess survey-based outcomes for hackathon participants as well. While also still in the planning stage with the planning team, those items will likely include measurement of perceptions about the structure of hackathon days and projects, opportunities for mentoring, guidance, and collaboration and the usefulness and outcomes and/or potential outcomes of those opportunities. In addition to this exit survey, Ed Saperia is arranging for participation counts to be taken at each of the sessions and pushing to have people share lessons learned and hot conversations via twitter to the conference hashtag for potential content analysis. [[User:JAnstee (WMF)|JAnstee (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JAnstee (WMF)|talk]]) 19:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks [[User:JAnstee (WMF)]]. This is good to hear. Will you also be evaluating the online impact of Wikimania particularly as it relates to active editor statistics and editor diversity? Also, would you be willing to adapt or create a survey to evaluate the Research Hackathon next week? If you can draft a survey I can review it with the other event organizers. It may be possible for us to simply adapt the dev hackathon survey for the Research Hackathon. Thanks, --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font>]]</font> 07:32, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
When do you think the first GLAM content donation took place? GLAM content donations involved the Wikimedia community working together with galleries, libraries, archives and museums to "free" cultural heritage images and media from the institution and uploading the images or media to Wikimedia Commons for free use. I've heard it might have been with a German institution, and the documentation I'm finding suggests all types.
:::That is a good follow-up point. As we do not directly evaluate, but work to support self-evaluation of programs, I cannot speak to those goals and related evaluation strategies except for the portion of the conference for which organizers have shared goals for direct online impact, the hackathon. For the hackathon days, organizers plan to track the product of hackathon efforts in terms of the bugs fixed, templates created/added, analyses run, citations added, and the like, however this tracking is the responsibility of the organizers. As for tracking online activity of all Wikimania conference participants, that ''would'' be possible with usernames, and Wikimetrics at appropriate follow-up points, however, since the primary goals of Wikimania have not been stated in terms of intermediate behavior outcomes specific to online activity, there is currently no plan for that at this time, only immediate outcomes and short-term learning, networking, and motivation outcomes as targeted by the existing survey draft items. As for that draft, I would be happy to also send your way for input as well (I will share that draft to your inbox). [[User:JAnstee (WMF)|JAnstee (WMF)]] ([[User talk:JAnstee (WMF)|talk]]) 17:34, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I can't wait to read your own take on this. Thanks! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 17:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
*According to [[Commons:Commons:Partnerships]] first large content donation was "The Yorck Project", but the images were donated by Directmedia Publishing GmbH, see [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2005-May/000057.html here], which is not a GLAM institution. So the first large GLAM upload would be [[Commons:Commons:Bundesarchiv]] [[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|talk]]) 20:28, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
**I wouldn't call that a donation myself; the old & crap Yorck images were already out of copyright, which was the whole point of the thing. You could buy the whole lot on a CD-rom for peanuts, free to use. Probably still can. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 17:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
**Not sure if the Bundesarchiv donation qualifies as the first "GLAM content donation". GLAMwiki didn't exist back then and the term was retroactively applied to this donation. IMHO, the first "GLAM content donation" is the one that pro actively used the GLAM term to describe itself. Regards, [[User:Christoph Braun|Christoph Braun]] ([[User talk:Christoph Braun|talk]]) 00:03, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
*AFAIK first in Italy: 2006-2007, National Technological and Archeological Park of the Colline Metallifere contributes 12 articles and some images, uses QR codes to Wikipedia; September 2007, high quality texts and images for Palladio. See [[outreach:GLAM/Newsletter/January 2012/Contents/Italy report]]. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 23:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
:::Sounds a good candidate; I can think of anything English-language older than that, though there may be. The Victoria & Albert Museum released some images, like [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Burghley_nef.jpg this] but that seems to be June 2008. The Bundesarchiv was not exactly GLAM-centred, though I suppose it counts; the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Tropenmuseum&oldid=32386996 huge Tropenmuseum (Amsterdam) release] began in late 2009. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 17:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
::::I do think Bundesarchiv counts as a major landmark here, and surely whether the term "GLAM" was in use at the time is immaterial. Whether a government archive is somehow less GLAMorous is something that Dominic may disagree on, but that's another issue :) Power to all of the G, L, A and M! (But maybe in some cases it does make sense to have "firsts" for each of the major GLAM types as well.)--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 05:48, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::Bundesarchiv was the first big donation that got me involved. Daniel did the upload and I think I did some bot work to sort things out. After that I uploaded the Fotothek images and Tropenmuseum images. All the things before that were nice, but a whole different size and approach compared to these projects. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 23:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
== When was the first Wikimedia photo competition? ==
When do you believe the first Wikimedia photo competition took place? I know about the first Wiki Loves Monuments in the Netherlands, but, there were more programs that predeated it - Wiki Takes, Wiki Loves, for example.
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I've heard some rumors about the first one taking place in Tennessee and being produced by [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]]. I'm also sure that some events took place in other countries, either around the same time or predating it (I'm still unsure on the date, I have to dig that up).
Wikimedia photo competitions involve going out someplace (a park, a museum, a city) and photographing specific things and then uploading those photos to Commons to be used on the projects.
Thanks for your help and I can't wait to read your thoughts! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 16:59, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
* The first one I was aware of was the [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008|Wikipedia Takes Manhattan]] photo competition in 2008. I've heard rumours of an event to take photographs of all of the London Underground stations, which was pre-2008, but I can't find a reference for that. Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|talk]]) 19:33, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
**Yes, NYC's [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008|Wikipedia Takes Manhattan]] was the first, and Nashville and the others were modeled on it (I helped Kaldari in his, which was one of the earliest). Incidentally, this was the first-ever use of the "Wikipedia Takes" snowclone, inspired by the lyric from [[w:Manhattan (song)|Manhattan (song)]], and yes, a little bit by [[w:The Muppets Take Manhattan|The Muppets Take Manhattan]] :)--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 05:25, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
* First Wikimedia competition in Italy: WMIT award, spring 2008 (a literary competition in partnership with the Park above); first with photos, WMIT award spring 2009 (it had several categories, we intended it to be a test), see [[commons:Commons:Wikimedia Italia Award 2009]]. More links at [[Incentives]]. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 23:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
* In Estonia I stared with [[:w:et:Vikipeedia:HELP|Wikipedia:HELP]] in June 2010. [[:w:et:Vikipeedia:HELP4|4th HELP]] is currently collecting its images. This is made almost without any expenses and it has brought several new contributors and FP images. But I have never said it to be a competition, even thou in the Commons it has been [[:Commons:Commons:Estonian nature photos competition, 2010|named so]]. [[User:Kruusamägi|Kruusamägi]] ([[User talk:Kruusamägi|talk]]) 13:40, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
* [https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Activities/Britain_Loves_Wikipedia Britain Loves Wikipedia] was a big contest running for all of February 2010; perhaps the first UK one. The [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Britain_Loves_Wikipedia_at_the_Victoria_and_Albert_Museum 350-odd Victoria & Albert photos on Commons] still get c. 500k views on articles per month, says BaGLAMa. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 18:05, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
** Britain Loves Wikipedia was preceded by [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art/US-UK/V&A rules|Wikipedia Loves Art at the V&A]] in the UK back in February 2009 (which I think was the first ever event run by WMUK). Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|talk]]) 19:35, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
***And incidentally, [[:en:Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art/US-UK|Wikipedia Loves Art]] in February 2009 (which was in both the US and UK) was the first instance of the "Wikipedia Loves" snowclone, actually inspired by a loose Valentine's Day theme of the original event.--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 19:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
**** I had to do some digging, but I found [[:Commons:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Manhattan%27s_junk]]. That was a lesson learned! Should undelete the photos to get it complete again ;-)
**** I think after that Wiki Loves Art was done (too in New York). We used that model in 2009 to do [[:Commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Art Netherlands|Wiki Loves Art Netherlands]]. [[User:Multichill|Multichill]] ([[User talk:Multichill|talk]]) 22:59, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
== When was the first edit-a-thon? ==
Hi everyone. I'm doing some research to document the history of programs, like edit-a-thons, for the Program Evaluation & Design teams [[Programs:Evaluation portal/Boiler room/Forge/Data report outline|data report]]. I want to give some background about programs. First, I'm starting with edit-a-thons.
:When did the first edit-a-thon take place? (and any documentation about it if possible) - and it doesn't have to be an event that used the title "edit-a-thon". It can be any type of event where people got together to edit Wikipedia in the same room.
Now, we might not get the *exact* first edit-a-thon, but, having an idea about when the first one(s) took place and by who would be great. Thanks for your input :) [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 18:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
*The earliest use of the term I can find is the British Library event in [https://wiki.wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Editathon,_British_Library/January_2011 January 2011] (perhaps Mike Peel remembers where he got the term?). There were certainly events before this, but they didn't seem to use the term. [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|talk]]) 18:51, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
** Hi Sarah. The first "editathon" (at least, under that name that I'm aware of) was the one that I organised at the British Library in January 2011. The list of early editathons at [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_run_an_edit-a-thon#List_of_edit-a-thons] should be reasonably complete.
*: I think me and [[User:Tango|Thomas Dalton]] invented the concept and the name, although we were originally envisaging it as a 24-hour editing session rather than the shorter time periods that turned out to be more practical. Unless anyone knows of any prior art here?
*: Thanks. [[User:Mike Peel|Mike Peel]] ([[User talk:Mike Peel|talk]]) 18:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
This is great! Thanks guys. I'd also love information on when the community believes (or knows that) the first event when people got in a room together and edited Wikipedia in a somewhat (ha!) organized fashion. [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 18:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:That I don't know, but I think there's decent odds it will have been in Germany or the Netherlands ;-). [[User:Andrew Gray|Andrew Gray]] ([[User talk:Andrew Gray|talk]]) 19:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::Though not called an editathon at the time, the [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:GLAM/British Museum/Hoxne challenge|Hoxne Hoard challenge]] (June 2010) fits the criteria. Oddly enough, not on the page Mike linked to. [[User:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|Richard Nevell (WMUK)]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell (WMUK)|talk]]) 20:23, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Yes, the first I know of was the one Liam organised in June 2010 at the British Museum. I can't remember if he called it an editathon, at the time it was called the Hoxne Challenge. But in hindsight I would describe it as an editathon.
[[File:Editing Hoxne Hoard at the British Museum.ogv|right|thumb|I still have that Orange shirt and use the same netbook. Today's editathons look very similar, though we've learned to spread over more articles than to try and focus that many people on one. Also some of us are showing our age and not moving around so quickly. [[User:WereSpielChequers|WereSpielChequers]] ([[User talk:WereSpielChequers|talk]]) 23:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)]]
:::One curious thing, I checked a couple of months ago and the ten Wikimedians who were involved were all still active three years on. I'm not sure that's enough to prove the theory that GLAM is the solution to our editor retention problem.. But it certainly gives a hint that it could be.
:::Oh and the original idea of GLAM as a route to improve quality on Wikipedia? Well Hoxne hoard is a featured article in both English and French. [[User:WereSpielChequers|WereSpielChequers]] ([[User talk:WereSpielChequers|talk]]) 23:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::::The other curious thing is how many people in that room have gone on to be either trustees or staff of Wikimedia UK.... :-) [[User:The Land|Chris Keating (The Land)]] ([[User talk:The Land|talk]]) 17:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Are you looking only for the earliest or the earliest in various countries as well? [[User:Thelmadatter|Thelmadatter]] ([[User talk:Thelmadatter|talk]]) 19:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:Hi Leigh. Ideally it'd be the "first ever". I'm happy to collect information on various countries, but I can't promise it will make it in this specific data report. [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 19:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::first meetup [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/DC1 Meetup/DC1] May 7-8, 2005, was a photo treasure hunt, not "editathon" [[User:Slowking4|Slowking4]] ([[User talk:Slowking4|talk]]) 19:21, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::first meetup NYC [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/December_2004 NYC/Dec 2004] quiz, photo sharing [[User:Slowking4|Slowking4]] ([[User talk:Slowking4|talk]]) 19:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks Slow. I'm primarily focused on edit-a-thons this second but this helpful too. We can always start a new thread as needed, or section. [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 19:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:In 2007, we Esperanto Wikipedians did something like an "edit-a-thon" (I dislike the word) in Antwerp, Belgium. [[User:Ziko|Ziko]] ([[User talk:Ziko|talk]]) 20:07, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ziko|Ziko]], is there any documentation of this online? (Even in Esperanto?) Thanks! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 22:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
:::Hi Sarah and others; Just letting you all know that we had a proper live edit marathon in Bangalore, India in November 2010. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Bangalore/Bangalore21 Link] ----[[User:Rsrikanth05|Rsrikanth05]] ([[User talk:Rsrikanth05|talk]]) 11:21, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
While it wasn't branded as an 'edit-a-thon', I would suggest that the first attempt at doing a bit of editing, on site at a GLAM institution in collaboration with staff was at the [[w:Powerhouse Museum]] in April 2009. This was part of the first ever "Backstage Pass" event that I coordinated and was the first GLAMWIKI event in the world (as far as I know). It was documented in their blog here: http://www.freshandnew.org/2009/04/working-with-wikipedia-backstage-pass-at-the-powerhouse-museum/ and the wiki project page is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Sydney/Powerhouse_Museum_2009-03-13 [[User:Wittylama|Wittylama]] ([[User talk:Wittylama|talk]]) 13:58, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
:I guess one of the other earliest official GLAM workshops/minieditathons was at New York Public Library in July 2009, which included what at the time we called the [[w:User talk:DGG/NYPL|'Recent deaths articles' experiment]].--[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] ([[User talk:Pharos|talk]]) 19:51, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
if i´m getting the definition of "editathon" right, the first one in de.wp was [[:de:Wikipedia:Artikelmarathon]], which started in august 2007 for the first time, and since then takes place two times a year. --[[User:Kulac|Kulac]] ([[User talk:Kulac|talk]]) 18:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC) PS: it´s just writing articles on any topic, not a GLAM related editathon.
as steven walling pointed out, such efforts predate wikipedia, and predate wiki. some english names are [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelling_bee bee], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communal_work communal work], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn_raising barn raising], in german it might be [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachbarschaftshilfe nachbarschaftshilfe]. e.g. a wanted page cleanup barn raising effort [http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/BarnRaisingNominations was done april 2001 at meatballs]. somebody seemed able to create some new names for a century old concept :) --[[User:ThurnerRupert|ThurnerRupert]] ([[User talk:ThurnerRupert|talk]]) 00:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks. I don't have any documentation here on meta from Steven, but I did see he said something on one of the many mailing lists. I'm not retaining mailing list comments, only meta comments for transparency and community involvement. Anyway, I'm also only focusing on Wikipedia related group editing events, as I only have about 400 words or less to document the idea. Thanks for sharing some more historical things, I actually did quite a bit of research into barn raising and communal work for an exhibition I did quite a while back! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 16:59, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
The [[en:Wikipedia:Academy|Wikipedia Academy]] events, the first one in June 2006, are another candidate. They include(d) both talks about Wikipedia, and editing sessions/workshops. They are/were (not sure if they still happen) mainly aimed at introducing Wikipedia to academics and researchers, and to encourage them to become editors. --[[User:Delirium|Delirium]] ([[User talk:Delirium|talk]]) 15:21, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
*If the definition is «event when people got in a room together and edited Wikipedia in a somewhat (ha!) organized fashion», all the first [[w:it:Wikipedia:Raduni#2004|Italian meetups in 2004]] probably fit, according to what Frieda says about them (I think this was already documented in some previous Meta or outreachwiki "survey" on the topic, but I can't find it). [[w:it:Wikipedia:Incontro di Pescara--20, 21, 22 agosto 2004]] is the first which explicitly mentions "hands on" features and new editors recruitment (part of a broader hacker event). --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 06:39, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
*:That event looks more like a workshop - lectures and then a hands on experience at editing. Thanks for sharing it! [[User:SarahStierch|SarahStierch]] ([[User talk:SarahStierch|talk]]) 17:34, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
*::Nothing in there suggests there was anything like a workshop: they had a booth. If you want something else, please clarify the definition. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 09:39, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
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