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{{Infobox CVG| title = Sonic R
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|image = [[Image:SonicR.jpg|200px|box cover]]
|developer = [[Traveller's Tales]]
|publisher = [[Sega]]
|designer =
|engine =
|released = [[1997]], [[1999]]
|genre = [[Racing game|Racing]]
|modes = [[Single player]], [[multiplayer]]
|ratings = [[Entertainment Software Rating Board|ESRB]]:Kids to Adults(K-A)
|platforms = [[Personal computer|PC]], [[Sega Saturn|Saturn]]
|media =
|requirements =
|input =
}}[[Image:Super_Sonic_Racing.jpg|200px|thumb|right|A screenshot of the [[Personal computer|PC]] version of ''Sonic R''.]]
 
'''''Sonic R''''' (the R stands for racing) is a [[racing game]] developed by [[Traveller's Tales]] and [[Sonic Team]] for the [[Sega Saturn]] and [[Personal computer|PC]], the latter version being ported to the [[Nintendo GameCube|GameCube]] and [[PlayStation 2]] in ''[[Sonic Gems Collection]]''. It features characters from the ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' series. The game is characterized by the same sense of environmental openness in the Sonic [[platform game|platformers]]. It contains colorful [[3D computer graphics|3D]] [[computer graphics|graphics]] combined with a strong soundtrack by [[Richard Jacques]] (including songs performed by [[Great Britain|British]] [[singer]] [[T. J. Davis]]). The Saturn version has a severe case of graphical pop-up while the PC version is generally much cleaner (although it sometimes has issues installing/running on [[Windows XP]] and later).
This page is to discuss about the [[Help:Contents]] page only.
 
==Gameplay==
'''For questions about Wikipedia or editing''' see [[Wikipedia:Help desk]].<br>
There are several collectable rings across each of the five racetracks. Each ring regenerates after a short period of time. These rings can serve one of three purposes.
'''For discussions on things that could be fixed or made better''' see [[Wikipedia:General complaints]].<br>
'''For questions on factual topics (eg. Who is the pope?)''' see [[Wikipedia:Reference desk]].<br>
'''For policy and technical information''' see [[Wikipedia:Village pump]].<br>
'''To resolve issues between users''' see [[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]].<br>
 
* Stepping on a speed boost will consume all of a player's rings, to a maximum of 50, and boost the player ahead along a preset path. The boost is at a speed approximately three times the normal maximum speed of a character and lasts for a duration [[Proportionality (mathematics)|proportional to]] the number of rings deducted.
* Special doors on the tracks can open if a player reaches them with twenty or fifty rings (depending on the door). Twenty-ring doors frequently hide tokens, shortcuts, or both. Fifty-ring doors frequently hide Chaos Emeralds, shortcuts, or both. After being opened, the doors remain open for all players for the duration of the game.
* Some characters can perform an attack for 10 rings (see below).
 
There are also inexhaustible emblem bonuses. Touching an emblem gives the racer one of multiple possible rewards, including a random number of rings and the bubble and lightning shields that appeared in ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog 3]]''. The bubble shield allows the racer to walk on water once, after which it disappears. The lightning shield attracts rings to itself, but is eliminated upon touching water (or after having it for a long enough time).
==Old talk==
I've rearranged and changed the Help page with the aim of making it more logical and friendly for new users. I'm also moving a few items, such as press coverage, to the FAQ.
 
There are five racers in each race. The four racers selected depend on what character the player chooses. If the player chooses a secret character, he'll face the other secret characters that have been unlocked. If the player chooses a starting character, he races against the other starting characters. For the purposes of selecting the racers, Dr. Robotnik is treated as a starting character.
There is still a lot more that could be done to make this page more useful. For example, we have no good instructions on how to log in and set preferences, or on how to upload images. Here's a suggested to-do list:
*[[Wikipedia:How to log in and set preferences]]
*[[Wikipedia:How to include images in articles]]
*[[Wikipedia:How to keep track of recent changes]] (cover recent changes, watch lists, list of new articles)
*[[Wikipedia:How to include sound in articles]]
*[[Wikipedia:How to move articles]]
 
Racers can run on water for a limited period of time, and can "swim" in it indefinetely, at greatly reduced speed. In addition, each of the ten playable characters has a different speed and a unique set of abilities. Unlike most racing games, these abilities are designed such that certain characters, even among characters that are initially playable, have a clear edge over others.
[[User:Enchanter|Enchanter]]
 
===Main characters===
:Nice work. I will take a look at this and tweak it some later. --[[User:Maveric149|mav]]
The following are the characters that are initially playable:
 
* [[Sonic]] is the fastest of the characters that are initially playable. He can double jump.
Since the FAQ and the Policies are the two main other documents refered to from both [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers]] and [[Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia]], it seems to me that the policies join the FAQ at the top of the help page. If you don't like the change, hey sue me, block my IP address, or just change it back :) I realize it's somewhat presumptious for a newbie to be editing high profile pages such as the Help and FAQ, but I feel it's needed. The help page has many links, each with many further links, forming a broad and deep tree of a huge number of documents, and the important information needs to be near the top of that tree, otherwise it's not going to be easy to find. -roy
* [[Tails]] can fly at a fixed level for an unlimited period of time.
* [[Knuckles]] can glide for an unlimited period of time, gradually losing height. However, he cannot latch onto or climb walls as in all other games in which he has appeared.
* [[Amy Rose]] drives a car and can hover over water. She also has the ability to use a speed boost, although she can't turn very well while doing so. She is extremely slow.
 
===Secret characters===
: Not sure if this was prompted by my comment (and edit) but thanks. The other frustration I had when I made my first edit beyond a very minor correction was that the ''Editing help'' link contains advice solely on the ''mechanics'' of editing, with no links to documents advising on the ''appropriateness'' of editing. I'm not entirely sure what should be there. Links to the policies (and perhaps the manual of style), I'm not sure. There might be other documents that are more relevent/ An enjoinment to [[Be bold in updating pages]] might also be reassuring to new users :) [[User:Roybadami|Roybadami]]
The secret characters, with the exception of [[Super Sonic]], can be unlocked by collecting all five coins on a racetrack and finish first, second, or third. Upon doing so, the player will be challenged by one of the following characters, depending on the racetrack:
 
* [[Dr. Robotnik]] ([[Doctor Eggman|Dr. Eggman]] in the [[Japan]]ese version), who races in his personal [[hi-tech]] [[aircraft]], can do a short-range [[heat-seeking]] attack at a cost of 10 rings. The attack will eliminate the target's shield if it has one and slow it down if it does not. He is particularly slow.
* [[Metal Sonic]] is an improved version of its counterpart. It has a very high single jump and doesn't fall into water if it constantly jumps.
* [[Tails Doll]] can hover on water. Additionally, it can hover indefinetely a certain distance above the ground or water. Some say he can come out of the TV and "get" people, but that is not true
* [[Metal Knuckles]] is an improved version of its counterpart. It has a much better glide than Knuckles. It is notably fast. Also, it is one of the more difficult secret characters to obtain.
* [[Eggrobo]] is a [[humanoid]] [[robot]] whose head and body are shaped like an egg. Its abilities are similar to those of Robotnik, but it is slow compared to the other secret characters.
 
===Super Sonic===
:: My opinion, FWIW, is that beginners are in a good position to edit help pages, FAQs and guidelines for clarity, because they are in a good position to rate their usefulness. -- [[User:Tarquin|Tarquin]]
[[Super Sonic]] is the fastest racer, and also the hardest to unlock. He can double jump and can run on the surface of water, provided that he does not slow down. To unlock him, the player must collect all seven [[Chaos Emerald]]s scoured throughout the five racetracks. When a player collects one, he must finish in first place to keep it.
 
When playing as Super Sonic in the Radiant Emerald stage, the music is different; it plays the Sonic R theme song (''Super Sonic Racing'') instead of ''Diamond in the Sky''.
: I have to admit that I hadn't until just now notices that ''Editing help'' is just a link to a perfectly ordinary, editable, Wikipedia page. I might tweak it sometime. [[User:Roybadami|Roybadami]]
 
===Other Navigation modes===
Aside from the main game, there are three special gameplay modes accessible from Time Attack mode: reverse, in which racing occurs facing the opposite direction, break five balloons, and tag four players.
 
==Versions==
The link for "Help" in the default navigation box links to [[Help:Contents]] rather than [[Wikipedia:Help]]. Is there a reason for that that I'm missing? -[[User:Gtrmp|Sean Curtin]] 06:33, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
For the PC version the graphics were somewhat modified. For example races occur in random weather conditions, either normal, rainy, or snowy, unless the default settings are altered. Snowy weather freezes the water so that racers can run across it without sinking.
:Help:Contents is the new ___location for Help. Wikipedia:Help is the old link. A redirect was used as temporary solution. Its been fixed now. Help now belongs in the Help: namespace. [[User:Krik|Krik]] 15:24, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC).
 
The version of the game in ''Sonic Gems Collection'' is similar to the PC version. Minor differences include that there is no Network option on the main menu and that the Options menu is slightly different.
::Are you going to move everything like the "how to edit a page" etc.? I lot of the WikiPedia space is arguably help. Is this discussed somewhere? --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]][[user talk:BozMo||talk]] 09:22, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
== Help namespace ==
 
{{SonicGames}}
Okay, I see the need for a central "Help" page, but what's the '''Help''' ''namespace'' all about? When I searched that namespace for "editing", for example (using the checkboxes on the search results page), it just returned a lot of the same pages (and articles!) as a combined search on '''(Main)''', '''Wikipedia''' and '''Help'''. - [[User:Dcljr|dcljr]] 06:06, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[[Category:PC games]]
 
[[Category:Sega Saturn games]]
== Bit odd ==
[[Category:Sonic the Hedgehog games]]
Bit odd that the "sister projects" link at the top of the page goes to a template from the mainpage listing them. Shouldn't we really have an article about the sister projects under the link? --[[User:BozMo|BozMo]][[user talk:BozMo||talk]] 09:20, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[[Category:Racing computer games]]
 
[[Category: 1997 computer and video games]]
 
[[Category: 1998 computer and video games]]
== Login not preserved across languages ==
[[fr:Sonic R]]
Maybe I've misunderstood, although I have searched the documentation. I am making translations of pages from English to French, but it seems that each language's wiki requires a different login. Is it possible to have a wikipedia-wide login for all languages?
 
Not only seems the login not be preserved across languages but the whole account seems to be fixed to one language... At least my registered account in the English wikipedia is not existing at all in the German wikipedia. Isn't that lack of integration potentially opening a pandora's box (different users using the same name in different languages etc.)? [[User:Datschge|Datschge]] 14:26, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 
:Each language and each project has it's own login. So this login will only work on en.wikipedia. --[[User:Michael180|michael180]] 15:35, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
 
== Change in lede ==
 
Should I assume that that overly-cautionary note in the lede is sufficiently NPOV (in it's clear attempt to *be* NPOV, ironically) as to merit reversion? I see no discussion of it here, and I'd expect some, since it's policy, not content. [[User:Baylink|Baylink]] 19:13, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
== Out of place? ==
What does this: "I have a child of 8 years old. A beautiful son and had to have Invitro-Fertilization. I have been going through custody battles for the last 5 years. I am so tired and feel so helpless now, as it has been over 100,000.00 so far and now I can't afford a Lawyer. They always say the poor never win. 0" have to do with anything? Who is that? --[[User:Muhgcee|Muhgcee]] 06:39, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 
== A question on fonts, please ==
Ok. I'm trying to understand why my browser doesn't display some Unicode characters. Maybe it's that I have IE, maybe I don't have the correct font. Anyway, I then came across a new quastion: how do you change the font type? I thought it would be something like
<pre><nowiki><p font-family="Font here">Text Here</p></nowiki></pre>
as I thing is in HTML. Can someone help me, please? Thx [[User:Jotomicron|Jotomicron]] 22:18, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 
== Golf History ==
 
Whoever made the oglf history page, or at least updated it, really seems to have screwed up. It arbitrarily skips all kinds of dates, such as 1850-1944. That's realy excellent for me, as I am looking for info for a school project. Thanks.
 
== Category Creation/Finding ==
 
I was wondering if it's possible to search for Categories, or to create them.
 
 
== Who's helping whom? ==
{|
| Seems like the title of this page is a bit ambiguous.
 
Seems like this page should either fork immediately based on whether the person clicking to get here wants help, or whether they ''want to help''.
 
The vast majority of visitors will be wanting help of course, so adding a forking step makes no sense.
 
But maybe while keeping this page geared towards those who are looking for help it would also be worth it to mention somewhere prominent but not primary something in the vein of "Ways to help." Maybe in a callout box at the top right somewhere?
 
Tangentially, seems also like it might be worth having a "Ways to Help" link between Help & Donations in the main navigation that spoke to those who might want to help.
 
Project starting in that direction: [[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpreadingWikipedia.com Click here]].
| [[Image:Homepage_add_waystohelp_to_nav_copy.jpg|framed|]]
|}
 
==Atomic mass==
why is the atomic mass of an element not a whole number?
 
::Because atoms have [[isotopes]]. It like the average american family having 2.5 kids. For example, the [[atomic weight]] of [[hydrogen]] is 1.(some small number) because the majority of hydrogen atoms have just a single proton in their nuclei. However, a few hydrogen atoms have one or more neutrons; because of this, the average atomic weight of hydrogen is a little higher than one. The atomic weight is a statistical average; a given hydrogen atom usually has an atomic weight of one, but occassionally has an atomic weight of [[Deuterium|2]] or [[Tritium|3]]. If this is confusing, click on the links in this paragraph. [[User:Samboy|Samboy]] 19:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 
::For elements that are very unstable and not found in nature, you'll see their atomic mass in parentheses. This will always be a whole number, because it is the atomic mass of the most stable isotope. For this reason, many of the man made elements will have different atomic masses according to different sources, since physicists are continually finding more stable isotopes, especially in more newly disovered elements. [[User:Lepidoptera|Lepidoptera]] 03:27, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 
== New images ==
 
How does one creat a new image?--[[User:1 black hand|^~^Morgan^~^]] 01:16, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
 
Upload it. See on the left side it says <nowiki>"upload file"</nowiki> Click on that --[[User:Michael180|Michael180]] 14:33, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 
==New templates==
 
How can i make a new template? And when you answer this, please make it easier for newbies to find a [[How to make a new template]] article. [[User:Ed Poor|-- Uncle Ed]] [[user talk:Ed Poor|(talk)]] 20:57, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
 
== Adding link to WP:BB and WP:NOT ==
 
I believe this page should also link to [[Wikipedia:Be_Bold]] and [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not]]. From my experence we need to let the novice user know what [[WP:NOT|Wikipedia is not]]. We also shold encourage them to [[WP:BB|be bold]] --[[User:Michael180|Michael180]] 14:41, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 
== Help / Contact Us ==
 
Why has "Help" changed to "Help / Contact Us" on the toolbar on every Wikipedia page? Contact whom? Wikipedia is made by those who read it - "Us" is the person reading it. --[[User:81.146.47.6|81.146.47.6]] 14:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 
== Help Me! ==
 
Is this the right place to ask for help? I NEED HELP! I need to know how to create a sub-artical. Their isn't an artical about how here, but I saw a userpage with sub-articals listed on it. Somebody help! --[[User:Wack'd About Wiki|Wack'd About Wiki]] 23:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 
:I don't know if this is the right place to ask the question (or answer it), but I don't know where it should go, either. But to answer your question, you can just add the name of the sub-article in the edit string. For example, follow [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Wack%27d_About_Wiki/Sandbox&action=edit this link] to create a subpage of your own user page called "Sandbox". You can just click on the URL in your browser and find the part that says <tt>Sandbox</tt> and change it to whatever you want. Hope that helps! &mdash;[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family: monospace; font-variant: small-caps;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color: #070;">&#x9F9C;</span>]] 00:48, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC)
 
::Ah, it turns out that at the top of this page there's a link to the [[Wikipedia:Help desk]]. You may want to try there if my answer wasn't sufficient. &mdash;[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family: monospace; font-variant: small-caps;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color: #070;">&#x9F9C;</span>]] 00:51, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC)
 
==.css files==
Where can I ask for help about my monobook.css? [[User:Jotomicron|Jotomicron]] | [[User_talk:Jotomicron|talk]] 09:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 
:I may be able to help answer specific questions, if you haven't already found the help you wanted. ([http://severinghaus.org/tmp/bookonom.png my style]) &mdash;<span class="horsepunchkid">[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family: monospace; font-variant: small-caps;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color: #070;">&#x9F9C;</span>]]</span> 04:27, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 
== "Upload file" page ==
 
Had no idea where to bring this up but on the Upload file page, there's this message:
 
You must be <a href="/wiki/Special:Userlogin">logged in</a> to upload files.
 
With the HTML showing just like that... fairly ugly. And the page is uneditable...?
 
==Attribute==
 
Hey, I think this page lacks information about: how to attribute articles written anonymously to existing usernames.... I'm actually looking for that right now.[[User:Qwertzy2|Qwertzy2]] 10:33, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 
 
==help desk link==
 
The links to pages where to ask questions such as the help desk and reference desk are in their section. The help desk is filled enough as is it that there should not be a link to it on the top of the page. The purpose is for the user to view the help howto files *before* having the link to the question page. [[User:Elfguy|Elfguy]] 15:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
 
 
==List of templates==
Is there a list of templates somewhere? I think that would be helpful, and if there is, I think it should be in the tutorial or help section... somewhere where people could find it. I've seen a couple "disputed" tags here and there, but I'm looking for something appropriate for this: [[Al-Waqidi's credibility]] Not only is the article unintelligble, I don't think it should exist at all... but I'm not really sure to handle this, especially since this a topic I know nothing about. Thank you! [[User:Lepidoptera|Lepidoptera]] 03:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
 
:You may want to look at [[Wikipedia:Template messages]]. Scroll down a bit and you'll see a bunch of common templates. It's definitely not all-inclusive, but it will probably have the template you're looking for. You may want to list it on [[WP:VFD|Votes for Deletion]] if it is a junk article; just read the [[Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion|instructions]]. &mdash;<span class="horsepunchkid">[[User:HorsePunchKid|<span style="font-family: monospace; font-variant: small-caps;">HorsePunchKid</span>]]&rarr;[[User talk:HorsePunchKid|<span style="color: #070;">&#x9F9C;</span>]]</span> 04:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
::There is a shortcut to see all of the stub messages. It's at [[Stub types]] [[User:EdwinHJ|EdwinHJ]] | [[User talk:EdwinHJ|Talk]] 21:38, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
 
==Radical page re-organization==
 
I suggest moving everything out of [[Help:Contents]] into some other page like [[Help:general help]]. Then just have a few links at [[Help:Contents]].
 
Probably just the same half-dozen links that are at the top of this talk page (and several other helpful pages).
 
The idea is to make it quicker for both new and old users to find the kind of help they need.
 
Anyone want to help me re-organize? [[User:Ed Poor|Uncle Ed]] 17:56, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
 
: I also thought this page is too cluttered. Before doing any changes though, please note the discussion at [[Template talk:Welcome/Proposed version 1]]. There, it is argued that many of the links from the {welcome} template should be removed and one should be referred instead to the help pages. So, if you reorgianize this [[Help:Contents]] page, I would like to ask to keep the most useful links for newbies, which are now (not for long I hope) in {welcome}. [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] 18:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 
* I'm all for discussing reorganization here. However I won't let radical changes be apply without them first being discussed, especially when they are in my opinion very bad changes. [[User:Elfguy|Elfguy]] 19:21, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 
* '''No drastic changes''' please! I've just learned to come here to consistently find things I need. Gradual improvements within existing page are better. Thanks! -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 04:35, 2005 August 25 (UTC)
 
==Question links==
As been mentioned several comments above, the point of having question links not be on top of the page was so people actually use the help articles before going to ask questions. And you can't possibly tell me adding '''Ask your questions to Ed''' every 30mins at the top of the page is good form. [[User:Elfguy|Elfguy]] 19:17, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
 
== Language links ==
 
I am in the process of disambiguating literally thousands of links to language pages throughout the Wikipedia. In this process I have found that nearly ALL links to a language page need to be disambiguated thus: <nowiki>[[French language|French]] or [[Basque language|Basque]]</nowiki>. I think this needs to be discussed somewhere in the help or how-to sections, but I am not sure where to put it. Maybe it's already here somewhere but I have not found it. (I really wish peoople would verify their links when writing or editing a page.) Thoughts, anyone? &mdash; [[User:DanMS|DanMS]] 01:07, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 
== Useful additions ==
The [[Help:Contents#Information_and_resources_for_contributors|simplified ruleset]] and [[Help:Contents#Using_Wikipedia|who can write or edit Wikipedia articles]] additions are useful fast start overviews for new editors and readers respectively. -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 04:29, 2005 August 25 (UTC)
 
* It's in the first paragraph, 3rd link. If you really want to add it in the lists, since it's not a "How to", add it to the 3rd section. [[User:Elfguy|Elfguy]] 19:41, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
** Done. -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 23:07, 2005 August 25 (UTC)
 
== New pages ==
 
Under using Wiki I think there should be a header for Viewing and Editing New Pages. It isn't at all obvious how to do this--the existence of Special:Newpages required questioning an admin on my part; I'd never have known. It seems to me a very obvious thing people getting into it would want to use. RC moves too fast to just track new pages and I'd suggest that caretaking RC is different than filtering New additions. [[User:Marskell|Marskell]] 22:32, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 
:I'm not sure I understand. Under [[Help:Contents#Modifying_a_Wikipedia_page|Modifying a Wikipedia page]] it already lists:
:* ''How to [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page|edit a page]]''
:* ''How to [[Help:Starting a new page|start a new page]]''
: Did you have something more in mind? :) -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 00:37, 2005 August 26 (UTC)
 
::Yes--how to ''patrol'' new pages. If I sit on Special:Newpages I can make 4 or 5 speedy deletion requests in an hour (if its under 100 bytes it probably doesn't belong), tag a borderline one for regular VfD and make some Wikifying edits to others. The admin who pointed this out to me noted "I'm not sure how people are supposed to know this." [[User:Marskell|Marskell]] 07:10, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
 
:::How about [[Wikipedia:RC patrol]]? -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 17:38, 2005 August 26 (UTC)
 
:::Ok I added your tip about [[Special:Newpages]] on [[Wikipedia:RC_patrol#New_pages]]. But are you suggesting we mention RC patrol on the Help page (e.g., to make access to the RC patrol page easier)? -- [[User:Sitearm|Sitearm]]<small> | </small>[[User talk:Sitearm|Talk]] 04:35, 2005 August 27 (UTC)