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[[Image:Apprentice_Martha_Stewart.jpg|thumb|''The Apprentice: Martha Stewart'' logo]]
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==Something about various visual depictions?==
Would this be an appropriate topic in the article? Like Baby Mario, Mario Sunshine with the shades and stuff, etc.[[User:RadioYeti|RadioYeti]]
: Yes, I think that would be a good idea. However, it should only be a subsection, not an actual section. (It's just a detail, not a whole concept) Perhaps we could also point out in which games they appeared. ~[[User:MizuAmina|Amina]]
'''''The Apprentice: Martha Stewart''''' is the first [[spin-off]] from the [[United States|American]] [[reality television]] series ''[[The Apprentice]]''. The series premiered on [[September 21]], [[2005]]. The show is broadcast on [[NBC]] and is hosted by business tycoon [[Martha Stewart]]. The format of the show is tailored to suit Stewart's personality and brand identity. The tasks are centered around Stewart's areas of expertise: media, culinary arts, entertaining, decorating, crafts, design, merchandising, and style. Stewart brings her own sensibilities and creativity to the elimination process. Sometimes, but not always, she uses her catchphrase: "Good-bye." This is her equivalent to [[Donald Trump]]'s catchphrase: "You're fired."
==Page name==
Earlier reports however frequently reported incorrectly that her phrase was "You just don't fit in" but this turned out to only be a commentary on the first eliminated contestant. She also writes a cordial letter to the candidate who is fired. Although the letter is designed to give comfort, many times she takes subtle jabs at the fired candidate and gives frank reasons for why the candidate did not succeed on the show.
Why can't this entry simply live at [[Mario]]? As it is that page redirects here and I can't think of anything else that is ''only'' known as "Mario". --[[User:Maveric149|mav]]
[[Donald Trump]] and [[Mark Burnett]] are executive producers for the show. Businessman [[Charles Koppelman]] and Stewart's daughter, [[Alexis Stewart]], are Martha Stewart's eyes and ears. They closely watch the two teams throught the week and report their observations to Stewart.
We should add in the release dates and systems for the individual games.
--[[User talk:LGagnon|LGagnon]]
[[Image:Trumpmartha.jpg|thumb|Martha Stewart with Donald Trump]]
If you want to be technically correct, his full name is Mario Mario. Luigi's full name is Luigi Mario. They are the "Mario" brothers. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 02:40, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)
The two teams are called Matchstick and Primarius.
They need to put more info on Mario, instead of his games!
The show's theme song is "[[Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)]]" by the [[Eurythmics]].
==Mario Segali==
It says that Mario Segali was the warehouse manager. I always thought he was their landlord, though. I don't want to add false information to the article, though. Am I right?
Despite the fairly big initial hype, ratings for this spinoff have been nothing short of weak. This show averages only 7 million viewers, and garners a mediocre 2.5 average in the very important demographic of 18-49 year old viewers. However, it should be noted that this program airs against very tough competition, including ABC's massive hit ''[[Lost (TV series)|Lost]]''. There have been numerous reasons thrown out as to why this show isn't doing as well as expected, including: "too much" Martha (daytime program and primetime), confusion between this version and Trump's version which airs the day after (on Thursday nights), and weak casting. Due to these factors, it is unlikely that this program will make it back for a second season, although NBC does have the option of bringing it back to air for Season #2 during the relatively slow summer TV season.
:A lot of early gaming history is clouded in such confusion. It might well be that someone from Nintendo said one thing, and someone else said another. Or maybe he was the landlord of the warehouse? ;) ~ [[User:FriedMilk|FriedMilk]] 14:06, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
==Mario MarioCandidates==
''See: [[The Apprentice: Martha Stewart Candidates]]''
Will people stop changing Mario's name? His full title is '''Mario Mario''', not just 'Mario'. -- [[User:Kwekubo|Kwekubo]] 21:10, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
==Episodes==
:He's known as Mario or Super Mario and nothing else. Putting "Mario Mario" there would be confusing. His full name being "Mario Mario" is anecdotal. It might be a good idea to spell out the full names for real people, but "Mario Mario" isn't used by anybody, not even a birth record. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] 21:22, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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===Week 1: Once Upon a Time===
*'''Airdate:''' [[September 21]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Random House]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to design and write a [[children's book]] and read it to a group of first graders.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Dawna
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Jeff
*'''Winning Team:''' Primarius
*'''Primarius' Special Commendation:''' A Japanese dinner with Martha
*'''Losing Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Jeff, Dawn, Jim
*'''Dismissed:''' Jeff, for taking over the entire project and not listening to his teammates. (Martha to Jeff: "You just don't fit in.")
===Week 2: Business is Blooming===
:By the way, it has only been used in the movie. Some people would probably not consider secondary products to bear more weight than the average fan fiction. I personally don't. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] 21:27, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
*'''Airdate:''' [[September 28]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to sell flowers in high-end floral shops.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Carrie
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Chuck
*'''Winning Team:''' Primarius
*'''Primarius' Special Commendation:''' Building a garden for a Community Center in the Chelsea neighborhood
*'''Losing Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Chuck, Dawn, Jim
*'''Dismissed:''' Chuck, for poor leadership.
===Week 3: Bake It 'Til You Make It===
::As far as I know, the name "Mario Mario" has never been used in any of the games, which are Mario's main medium. "Mario Mario" seems to be given as much attention from Nintendo as the movie premise that Koopas are humanoids who evolved from dinosaurs... ~ [[User:FriedMilk|FriedMilk]] 12:24, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
*'''Airdate:''' [[October 5]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Michael C. Fina]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to design and sell a wedding cake.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Howie
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' David
*'''Winning Team:''' Primarius
*'''Primarius' Special Commendation:''' Dinner at Jean-George with [[Donald Trump|Donald]] and [[Melania Knauss|Melania Trump]]
*'''Losing Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Final Boardroom:''' David, Marcela, Dawn (Bethenny, Shawn and Jim recalled to the boardroom by Martha)
*'''Dismissed:''' Shawn, for off-handed remarks (First Woman Dismissed, also the first person to be fired and not having even been chosen for the boardroom).
*'''Special Note:''' Jim's wife has a baby.
===Week 4: Sweet Suite===
:His full name has been referred to as Mario Mario on more than one occasion by Nintendo Official Magazine UK. I think most sources would recognise it as a valid bit of Mario trivia, so it merits inclusion. -- [[User:Kwekubo|Kwekubo]] 23:29, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
*'''Airdate:''' [[October 12]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Westin Hotels]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to create a fantasy suite in a Westin Hotel.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Amanda
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Leslie
*'''Winning Team:''' Primarius
*'''Primarius' Special Commendation:''' Enjoying the hotel suite that they had finished.
*'''Losing Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Leslie, Bethenny, Dawn
*'''Dismissed:''' Dawn, for being completely dysfunctional.
*'''Special Note:''' Leslie is transferred to Matchstick from Primarius and becomes the project mananger.
===Week 5: Mixed Greens===
::Well, if there's no reaction by this stage, I guess it's safe to reinsert. -- [[User:Kwekubo|Kwekubo]] 23:48, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
*'''Airdate:''' [[October 19]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Wishbone]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to create and sell a Salad Dressing.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Jennifer
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Ryan
*'''Winning Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Matchstick's Special Commendation:''' A trip on a [[Schooner]] around [[New York City]].
*'''Losing Team:''' Primarius
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Jennifer, Jim
*'''Dismissed:''' Jennifer, for not taking Jim off the task when he behaved badly.
*'''Special Notes:'''
**Bethenny, Howie, Sarah, Carrie, Jim and Jennifer become the new Primarius, Ryan, Amanda, Leslie, Dawna, David and Marcela become the new Matchstick.
**Officially Ryan, Amanda and Dawna are transferred to Matchstick. Jim and Bethenny are transferred to Primarius.
**Matchstick finally wins for the first time in the series.
**This is the first time a two-person boardroom takes place and it is the first time Martha choses the boardroom candidates instead of the project manager.
===Week 6: Every Dog Has His Day===
::Quite frankly, I think that their should be a page for all Mario characters - the good (Mario, Luigi, Toad, etc.), the bad (Bowser, Wart, Kamek, etc.) and the mindless (goombas, troopas, prana palnts, etc.). And, also, the names Mario Mario and Luigi Mario have been confermed by the guy who created Mario (''his'' name, I dont know!).
*'''Airdate:''' [[October 26]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Purina|Purina Beneful]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to create an auction package with various celebrities and then raise the most money during the auction.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Jim
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Marcela
*'''Winning Team:''' Primarius
*'''Primarius' Special Commendation:''' No reward, as this was a charity event.
*'''Losing Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Marcela, David
*'''Dismissed:''' David, for not contributing that much on the task and for being young and inexperienced.
*'''Special Notes:'''
**Matchstick's celebrities featured [[Chad Pennington]], [[Fran Drescher]], [[Bruce Vilanch]] & [[Jordan Allard]] and [[Merv Griffin]].
**Primarius' celebrities included [[Paul Sorvino|Paul]] & [[Amanda Sorvino]], [[Susan Lucci]], [[John Lithgow]] & [[Joanna Gleason]] and [[Todd Oldham]].
**Martha once again chooses the boardroom candidates.
===Week 7: Swimming Against the Tide===
==Mario's ancestry==
*'''Airdate:''' [[November 2]], [[2005]]
Mario is an Italian-American man, born in the Mushroom Kingdom, and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States.
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[Tide]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to create a live/performing billboard showcasing the new Tide to Go pen.
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Sarah
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Dawna
*'''Winning Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Matchstick's Special Commendation:''' Breakfast at [[Martha Stewart]]'s home in Bedford with [[Peter Arnell]].
*'''Losing Team:''' Primarius
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Sarah, Carrie, Bethenny, Howie
*'''Dismissed:''' Sarah, for having no leadership ability, along with Carrie, for being Sarah's assistant for a poorly managed event and doing next to nothing on the task.
*'''Special Notes:'''
**Martha dismisses two people for the first time in the history of the show.
** This is the third occurence of one person or more being fired/dismissed on the Apprentice series. The first was Maria & Wes in the 2nd Season of Donald Trump's Apprentice. The second had ironically occured the previous week when Josh, Jennifer M., James and Mark were oddly enough all fired for mass incompetence in the worst managed task in the history of the show.
**Martha uses the phrase: "You both don't fit in." in the form "Neither of you fit in", for the first time since the first episode.
===Week 8: Don't Touch That Dial===
Okay, I know that that Yoshi's Island game says that he was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, but which game says that he's Italian American or where he was raised?
*'''Airdate:''' [[November 9]], [[2005]]
*'''Hosting Company:''' [[QVC]]
*'''Project:''' Teams had to sell items on QVC. Matchstick sold a Self-Retracting Hose and Primarius sold the Bonnaire cordless self inflater
*'''Primarius Project Manager:''' Bethenny
*'''Matchstick Project Manager:''' Ryan
*'''Winning Team:''' Matchstick
*'''Matchstick's Special Commendation:''' A helicopter ride to [[East Hampton (town), New York|East Hampton]] and a tour of one of Martha Stewart's homes with [[Kevin Sharkey]].
*'''Losing Team:''' Primarius
*'''Final Boardroom:''' Bethenny, Howie, Jim
*'''Dismissed:''' Howie, for refusing to pitch the product.
*'''Special Notes:'''
*Dawna is transferred back to Primarius
==Week by Week Results==
Actually, he's an Italian-American man, ''raised'' in the Mushroom Kingdom, and ''born'' in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States. ''That'' was confermed by Nintendo. And, by the way, the games give you millions of different stories because there is no continuing storyline bridging each Mario game.
*That's just absurd. How could they have been born in Brooklyn and raised in Mushroom Kingdom? The Stork thing is, like, that the baby isn't really born until it is delivered. Luigi is kidnapped, and Mario lands on Yoshi's Island, and upon saving Luigi and the Stork, the three of them are brought to their parents in the Mushroom Kingdom. And how would they have been raised in the Mushroom Kingdom? He got there as a middle-aged man. The most plausible idea is that they were born in the Mushroom Kingdom, they grew up in Brooklyn, and then returned to the Mushroom Kingdom. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 06:44, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
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:: is it possible he was 'ordered' for a brooklonian family but redirected or misdelivered? was he raised by mushrooms? is peach the only native human to the kingdom? or is that a fallacy? it seems that the king is a mushroom, and peach is most certainly not. perhaps like mallow, she too is under a crazy false pretense? or can human babies be raised in the mushroom kingdom by mushrooms for reasons yet unknown? and baby mario, is that like a retconning or a seperate continuity?
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Candidate
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Original Team
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Episode 4 Team
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Episode 5 Team
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Episode 8 Team
!bgcolor="gray"|<font color = "white">Finish
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|[[Jeff Rudell]]
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|[[Chuck Soldano]]
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|[[Shawn Killinger]]
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|[[Dawn Silvia]]
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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|[[Jennifer Le]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|5th fired - Week 5
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|[[David Karandish]]
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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|6th fired - Week 6
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|[[Sarah Brennan]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|7th fired - Week 7
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|[[Carrie Gugger]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|8th fired - Week 7
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|[[Howie Greenspan]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|9th fired - Week 8
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|[[Amanda Hill]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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|[[Bethenny Frankel]]
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|[[Dawna Stone]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|[[Jim Bozzini]]
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
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|[[Leslie Sanchez]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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|[[Marcela Valladolid]]
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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|[[Ryan Danz]]
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="green"|Primarius
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
|bgcolor="purple"|Matchstick
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==External links==
::: What in the world? Mario and Luigi were born and raised in the Kingdom. Any Brooklyn ancestry has never been part of anything canonical. -- [[User:J44xm|J44xm]] 00:21, August 20, 2005 (UTC)
*[http://www.nbc.com/The_Apprentice:_Martha_Stewart/ ''The Apprentice:Martha Stewart'' show website (NBC)]
*[http://www.marthastewart.com/ Martha Stewart's website]
*[http://www.marthastewart.com/static_html/television/release_020205.html Press Release]
*[http://www.apprentice-martha.com/ ''The Apprentice:Martha Stewart'' information]
[[Category:2000s TV shows in the United States|Apprentice Martha Stewart]]
==Games missing from the list==
[[Category:NBC network shows|Apprentice Martha Stewart]]
There are almost all games featuring Mario in the list, but what about the Gameboy games "Mario & Yoshi" (kind of Tetris) and "Tennis" (Mario is also the referee in the GB-version) ?
[[Category:Reality television series|Apprentice Martha Stewart]]
[[Category:Television spin-offs|Apprentice Martha Stewart]]
--[[User:217.232.1.229|217.232.1.229]] 18:25, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
[[Category:The Apprentice]]
:Feel free to add them :) [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] 18:35, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Alright, but I don't know exactly when they were released. "Mario Paint"(SNES) is also missing, but I'm sure it was released within the 90s. The "Game and watch Gallery"-Games for Gameboy also feature Mario.
--[[User:217.232.23.42|217.232.23.42]] 12:32, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
This list is almost complete:
Arcade
1980 Donkey Kong
1982 Mario Bros.
1982 Donkey Kong Jr.
1984 VS. Tennis
1984 VS. Wrecking Crew
1984 Punch Out!
Game & Watch
1982 Donkey Kong (Multi Screen)
1982 Donkey Kong Jr. (Wide Screen)
1983 Donkey Kong II (Multi Screen)
1983 Mario Bros. (Multi Screen)
1983 Mario's Cement Factory (Wide Screen)
1983 Donkey Kong Jr. (Table Top)
1983 Mario's Cement Factory (Table Top)
1983 Donkey Kong Jr. (Panorama Screen)
1983 Mario's Bombs Away (Panorama Screen)
Nintendo Entertainment System
1983 Donkey Kong
1983 Donkey Kong Jr.
1983 Mario Bros.
1984 Tennis
1984 Pinball
1985 Wrecking Crew
1985 Super Mario Bros.
1988 Super Mario Bros. 2
1990 Super Mario Bros. 3
1990 Punch Out!
1990 Dr. Mario
1991 Mario Golf
1991 Mario & Yoshi
1992 Super Mario USA
Game Boy
1989 Super Mario Land
1989 Alleyway
1989 Tennis
1989 Tetris
1990 Quicks
1990 Dr. Mario
1990 F1 Race
1991 Mario & Yoshi
1992 Super Mario Land 2
1992 Yoshi's Cookie
1994 Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3
1994 Donkey Kong
1995 Mario's Picross
1997 Game & Watch Gallery
1997 Game & Watch Gallery 2
1999 Game & Watch Gallery 3
1999 Mario Golf
2000 Mario Tennis
Super NES
1991 Super Mario World
1992 Mario Paint
1992 Super Mario Kart
1993 Super Mario All-Stars
1993 Yoshi's Safari
1995 Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
1996 Super Mario RPG
1998 Tetris & Dr. Mario
Virtual Boy (Japan & USA)
1995 Mario's Tennis
1995 Mario Clash
Nintendo 64
1996 Super Mario 64
1996 Mario Kart 64
1999 Super Smash Bros.
1999 Mario Golf
1999 Mario Party
1999 Mario Party 2
2000 Mario Party 3
2000 Paper Mario
2000 Mario Tennis
Game Boy Advance
2001 Super Mario Advance
2001 Mario Kart: Super Circuit
2001 Super Mario World: Super Mario Advance 2
2002 Game & Watch Gallery Advance
2002 Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3
Nintendo GameCube
2002 Luigi's Mansion
2002 Super Smash Bros. Melee
2002 Super Mario Sunshine
--[[User:217.232.23.42|217.232.23.42]] 12:49, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
I will improve the German Mario article first.
--[[User:217.232.23.42|217.232.23.42]] 12:49, 8 May 2004 (UTC)
==The Mario Segali story==
What is the source for this? I've been able to find very little about it on the web. Unless it can be attributed to a reliable source, it should be removed. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] 23:35, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
:Check out the book "Game over: How Nintendo Zapped an American Industry, Captured Your Dollars, & Enslaved Your Children." It has the Mario Segali story as well as a lot of useful Nintendo information.
:This suggestion as to Mario's name is particularly widely referenced. I have seen it in Nintendo publictions, and an internet search reveals [http://ign64.ign.com/articles/060/060310p1.html this IGN article] as an example. -- [[User:Kwekubo|Kwekubo]] 23:48, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)
This is true. Even on [http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/corporate/index.jsp the official European Nintendo Sites] (the link leads to the English one) the name is explained this way.
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 09:11, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)
That book sounds like dog crap. And let me guess, Fairly Odd Parents taught the youth of the nation great lessons? Anyone who says that Nintendo zapped the American industry, captured your dollars and enslaved your children is a nasty dog butt! And other things I can't say here!
~ Darth Katana X {{unsigned|71.138.27.48}}
:See [http://www.nintendoland.com/home Nintendoland].
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==Better games overview==
I think we could improve this article by moving the full list of games to a [[List of Mario games]] and mentioning only the most important ones here. We could then have a fairly lengthy description (1-2 paragraphs) about each game mentioned here, including how it furthered gaming. The list of games here could be split into the main series of platform games (SMB1-3, SMW, Yoshi's Island, SM64, Sunshine), and some of the more important spin-off type games (Super Mario Kart, etc).
Thoughts? [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] [[User talk:Fredrik|(talk)]] 14:55, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I think the list should include only those games released on Nintendo consoles and arcade, but not the unimportant and probably unlicensed computer-versions of Mario Bros.
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 20:01, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
: I second this. A good "important" list would probably also only include games where Mario is either a playable character or the gameplay revolves around him. Donkey Kong, all of the Super Mario Brothers/Land/World games, Mario 64, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, maybe Mario 128 [http://cube.ign.com/objects/014/014915.html?fromint=1], etc. - [[User:Plutor|Plutor]] 16:45, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Er, you guys all seemed to second this "movement" so I did it anyway. Those who didn't agree (in a teeny-tiny voice) please don't hurt me. --[[User:Wack'd About Wiki|Wack'd About Wiki]] 09:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
== [[:Image:Supermario.jpg]] copyright ==
I've listed Supermario.jpg on [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems]]. If any of you have reasons why it shouldn't be replaced with a screenshot post it there. - [[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 17:49, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)
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What about the [[CD-i]] game "Hotel Mario"? If even the PC edutainment titles are listed up, why not also this CD-i game?
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 14:08, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I noticed that there is only seldom a reaction in this dicussion about what someone proposes or asks. That's weird...
What about Mario's voice, [[Charles Martinet]]?
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 07:27, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I think Mario does not appear in [[Wario's Woods]].
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 15:52, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
== Gamelist==
When was "3D Hot Rally" released? According to the "Monster"-Trophy (SSBM) it was also a game featuring Mario.
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 19:41, 22 May 2004 (UTC)
The Gamelist is still not complete. There are
*the Mario Artist series (64DD)
*Mario teaches Typing 2
*Hotel Mario
And I Think h does not appear in Wario's Woods.
--[[User:Luigi|Luigi]] 07:49, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
== Clarifications for a great article ==
''"According to some American manuals and gameplay, Mario and his brother are Italian-Americans born and raised in Brooklyn, New York City."''
First, what American manuals say this? Second, "City" should be removed. (Whoops!)
: Well I belive this is safe to remove... the manuals for SMB1-3 do not mention this... the only other manuals to check are the arcade manual (if there is one), and any Donkey Kong manual...
I think I'd rewrite this some: "The game known in America as 'Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island,' in which the Yoshi clan deliver Mario and Luigi to their parents after the stork was unable to, makes clear that Mario and Luigi's home since birth (as it were) is the Mushroom Kingdom. They speak with Italian accents, but there has never been any canonical material that indicated that they actually ''are'' Italian. Some unofficial sources -- mainly the various animated series and the non-animated 1993 film (see below) -- claim that the brothers have lived in and were possibly reared in Brooklyn, New York. Nothing canonical has ever confirmed this, however."
''"He is said to be a plumber (though he has held several other blue-collar jobs in his lifetime) and wears a red shirt, cap, and blue overalls."'' It might be nice to mention the other colors he's worn, from the brown and red in the original SMB, to the red overalls and blue shirt in the cartoons.
Can we get a better picture of Mario?
What games have had multiple endings?
It's not called a "Power mushroom": it's the "Super Mushroom," which usually makes him larger, but has served many other purposes, too. It often represents a boost in power or speed or somesuch. Should we at least mention the Fire Flower and Starman (which in recent years has also been known as the Super Star, I believe). More information about Japanese differences and info might be cool.
Also, yes, the person who does the voice of Mario and Luigi (and others!) should be mentioned. Great article we've got here. I signed up for a Wikipedia account solely for this article.
:''Can we get a better picture of Mario?''
:We used to have a CGI image from Super Mario 64's promotional materials, but it got a copyright notice. We can use screenshots under [[fair use]], so if you can take a shot of him while playing one of the later, more graphically detailed games, be our guest. I think this one is rather good, myself. ~ [[User:FriedMilk|FriedMilk]] 03:28, 2004 Sep 2 (UTC)
== Mario Mario ==
The thing is, the Super Mario Bros. Movie couldn't have come up with the title, unless Dr. Mario didn't have his last name as Mario, because Dr. Mario came out in 1990.
:I think the Dr. was added nonwithstanding the last name. See also Dr. Wario in Wario Ware. [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]])[[A| ]] 22:51, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
Well, two things are that:
*A. Dr. Wario is merely a spoof
*And B. I gave the benefit of the doubt that Dr. Mario is just to have similarity to the Mario franchise as much as I give the benefit of the doubt that Dr. Mario came up with the idea that his last name is Mario, and giving the doubt that SMB Movie gave the last name. Of course, I hate the SMB movie. *Shrugs* - A Link to the Past
:Dr. Phil. - [[User:Vague Rant|Vague]] | [[User talk:Vague Rant|Rant]] 11:34, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Mario Mario and Luigi Mario have been confermed to be the Mario Bros. fulll names by Shigeru Miyamoto, the guy who created Mario and all the games Mario & friends were ever in. --[[User:Wack'd About Wiki|Wack'd About Wiki]] 09:32, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
* P.S.: "Doctor" is the only title in which it is okay if your first name fallows instead of your last.
:*Example: Both "Dr. Adam" and "Dr. West" would be appropreate to call a doctor named Adam West.
*P.S.S.: I know, Adam West is from [[The Fairly OddParents]], but it was the first name that came to mind (I saw "Catman Meets the Crimson Chin" recently)!
**[[Adam West]] is the actor who played [[Batman]] in the 1960s movie, and he is also the mayor on [[Family Guy]]. He does a lot of voice work these days. [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]]) 20:19, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
:Since it's so disputed, we need some evidence to back up Wack'd About Wiki's assertion that Miyamoto himself has said this. -- [[User:J44xm|J44xm]] 01:32, July 16, 2005 (UTC)
Butch Hartman was on...his last legs when he made Fairly OddParents! What does it even halfta do with Mario?
~ Darth Katana X {{unsigned|71.138.27.48}}
==[[1 Vs 3 Minigame Tree]]==
I came across [[1 Vs 3 Minigame Tree]] and wanted to mention it here so it might get the attention of someone who knows the subject. Is there an appropriate place to merge this information, or at least somewhere we could link to it? As it stands now, the article is an orphan. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 06:40, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
==Mario's 3D debut==
::...made him the very first 2D established video game character to appear in a full 3D game.
Duke Nukem 3D was also released in 1996 but I don't know if that was before Mario 64 came out. Some websites suggests it was available in January.[[User:R4p70r|R4p70r]] 02:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
:Duke Nukem 3D was released around Super Bowl Sunday 1996, but he was a computer game character. Also, it wasn't a full 3D game - All the characters were still 2D sprites. "full 3D game" was a carefully chosen phrase there, I think. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] 02:47, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
== Mascot change? ==
''While Mario had been the official mascot of Nintendo for many years, Hiroshi Yamauchi replaced with with Pikachu during late 1997.''
I've removed this from the article pending proof of the statement's validity. -[[User:Luigi2|Luigi2]] 21:01, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
:That statement is bunk. Mario is not only the #1. selling Nintendo franchise, but has represented the GameCube, GBA, GBASP and DS. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 22:24, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
==Improvement Drive==
moved comments from [[WP:IDRIVE]]<br>
; '''Comments'''
*Support; I would say this is GCOTW material, but since it isn't a stub, I think we're in the clear.
*This article needs to be as good as [[Link (Legend of Zelda)]], since that article is featured and was on the main page and Mario is just as well-known. [[User:Phoenix2|<font color="#00000">Phoenix2</font>]] 01:05, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
: I agree with [[User:Phoenix2|<font color="#00000">Phoenix2</font>]], except Mario is much ''more'' important. -- [[User:Rmrfstar|Rmrfstar]] 29 June 2005 21:57 (UTC)
*This artical needs a lot of work. Redo the overview, remake sections. this is deffinetly worthy of the improvement drive. --[[User:ZeWrestler|ZeWrestler]] 29 June 2005 22:21 (UTC)
*Good idea; it's pretty good as-is, but some extra attention would help; maybe make it [[Main Page]] worthy.. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 9 July 2005 15:47 (UTC)
==Sections==
The current sections are:
# Biography
# Character development
# The Super Mario games
# Other appearances
# See also
# External links
For the improvement drive, I think we should start by creating some new sections that make some more sense. Some ideas:
# Appearance
# Abilities and techniques
# Companions and allies
# Opponents
I'm sure there are lots more. Let's create some consensus here before we start randomly editing the article. [[User:Jacoplane|Jacoplane]] 23:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
:These new sections sound like they'd work. I'd squeeze 'em in between Biography and Character development, myself. Maybe a small section detailing his creation, if one doesn't already exist. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 02:35, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
I have a suggestion why can't we make a gallery for the characters then we put
images from the past to present like Mario from NES to Gamecube. --[[Thief Lord]] 12:20, 8 November 2005
== Way too much information about mario's clothes ==
Right now, there is way too much information in this article about Mario's clothes and how they have changed over the years. Not only is there an entire section devoted to this, but then we revisit the topic again in the Character development section. This minutia is tedious and unencyclopedic. Could someone please consolidate all of it into something more concise? Thanks! [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] 19:37, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
:Aye, I have recognized this as a potential problem. I'm intending on merging this part of Character development and appearance together, eventually. That's probably the best way to handle it. --[[User:Shadow Hog|Shadow Hog]] 21:16, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
== Mario's powers & Paper Mario ==
I noticed there where no mention on the "powers" Mario have in the ''Paper Mario'' "RPG" game. I've only watched a friend play the game a bit so I don't know enough to feel comfortable about adding it myself, but I seem to recall "powers" like turning into a paper plane, rolling up into a cylinder to roll under obsatcles and stuff like that. Shouldn't that also be mentioned in the section descriping the powers Mario gets from the various powerups and suits in the various games? --[[User:Sherool|Sherool]] 17:05, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
== Donkey Kong ==
There are many, many links to Donkey Kong over the course of the article, most of which refer to the game, [[Donkey Kong (arcade game)]] while they POINT to the character, [[Donkey Kong]]. Jumpman did not first appear in the character, but the game. This should be fixed? [[User:Fantusta|Fantusta]] 17:27, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Fieari|Fieari]] 06:39, July 23, 2005 (UTC)
== Wario - Improvement Drive ==
I've nominated Wario for the improvement drive. You can vote for him here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:This_week%27s_improvement_drive#Wario_.28August_2.29 While he may not seem like one who can be too much improved, he has a lot of plot, probably just as much as Mario does. Thanks. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 00:49, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
== The name itself ==
Why isn't this article about the common first name Mario or simply a disambig page? Another bias towards video games? There are ''a lot'' of Marios, and even if this one is probably the most famous (to younger readers) it seems strange that it would be more important than an article about the name similar to [[William (name)]] or [[Stephen]].
[[User:Karmosin|Peter]] <sup>[[User talk:Karmosin|Isotalo]]</sup> 13:01, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
:No this is not "bias twoards video games", it's because Mario (the character) is the person, place, subject, or thing that is best known as simply Mario. Same reason why [[Bach]] redirects to [[Johann Sebastian Bach]] and then offers a link to a disambiguation page with over a dozen other Bach's on it. In the same fashion, this article offers a disambiguation link too - see [[Mario (disambiguation)]]. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 16:32, August 4, 2005 (UTC)
::[[Bach]] is a no-brainer because his sons, relatives and namesakes are all but forgotten compared to how famous papa Bach is today. To me Mario would only seem a clear-cut case if we assume the position of those born after 1980 or so (and not include me). And despite the fact that there is a disambiguation page, the article on the common first name is nowhere to be found. Has anyone actually considered it might be more appropriate to have the first-name article here or to simply make ''this'' article the disambig?
::To me it would seem more logical to keep this article under [[Super Mario]] or something like it. I also wouldn't be brandishing the video game bias unless I had experience of it. Along with [[Star Trek]] and [[WW II]] it's probably one of the most over-represented topics there is on Wikipedia.
::[[User:Karmosin|Peter]] <sup>[[User talk:Karmosin|Isotalo]]</sup> 10:39, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
:::As for as I'm concerned, this should be [[Mario (Nintendo)]]. Unless you want to say that Bowser (making him King Bowser instead, for accuracy) is so much more notable than any other Bowser. -- [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] 02:57, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
::::Theres a huge difference between Bowser and Mario. Mario is the most popular video game character of all time, hands down - whether you like him or not. He's as recognizable as just about any popular Disney character. Theres no other Mario in that list that even comes close to being recognized as only Mario. In my opinion, it would be pretty nonsensical to move him (yet again). The template {{tl|otheruses}} is used at the top of the page for anyone seeking someone else by the name of Mario. [[User:K1Bond007|K1Bond007]] 03:09, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. Bowser isn't much more notable than, say, the dog's name Bowser, but Mario is far more notable than all the other Marios who might be referred to by first name only, though the rapper/singer has some popularity at the moment, but that is presumably more ephemeral than that of Mario the character. [[User:Andrevan|<b><font color="mediumblue">Andre</font></b>]] ([[User_talk:Andrevan|<font color=royalblue>talk</font>]]) 05:18, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
::::::I would argue that Mario is a huge, global, icon and that other Marios should be mentioned at the top, with a link to a disambiguation page. If this were almost any other game character, then it should be a disambiguation.
:::::::I definitely think that "Mario" should be a disambiguation, and this article should be moved to [[Mario (Nintendo)]]. --[[User:DropDeadGorgias|DropDeadGorgias]] [[User_talk:DropDeadGorgias|(talk)]] 19:03, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
::::::::I definitely think it should stay. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] 19:25, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
:::::::::All the other Mario people have the benefit of last names. People who want to know about Mario Batali or Mario Lopez or Mario Andretti most likely will not simply type in "Mario" and be disappointed that it doesn't redirect to their desired ___location. If your argument is about Video Game bias, there are better examples or articles to bring up. Mario has just become part of modern pop culture, and most likely will be for a long time.
== Going on a quest ==
I'm going to try to make [[Mario]] an FAC within the next 3 months. Wish me luck! [[User:Luigi30]] ([[User_talk:Luigi30|Ταλκ]]) 18:56, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
== Mario's 20th birthday ==
Check the site: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario20th/index.html --- [[User:Jacoplane|Jacoplane]] 14:06, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
== Baby Mario ==
While I can see the need for this section to exist (and my guess is that it was merged into this article from its own stub, since it contained an introduction line (which I've removed now) that sounded like it should have been at the top of its own article) I think that its current position is odd within the article right now. I mean, putting it after "Abilities"? Perhaps it would go better somewhat closer to the biography section, perhaps even merged in there as a subsection of biography? It'd require a little rewording, but I think it'd fit better. Any thoughts? [[User:Fieari|Fieari]] 19:38, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
:Then make the changes! You shouldn't have to consult anyone in order to move an article. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 20:13, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
::I know that, I was just drawing some blanks on how to reword the Baby Mario section to include it with the biography section, and was hoping someone else might not have the same writter's block. I've moved the sections around though. Maybe someone'll notice how strange it looks and come up with a good way to rephrase it. [[User:Fieari|Fieari]] 02:34, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
== image captions ==
Hi there.... me again:). The image captions really should be more towards [[WP:CAPTION]] :) - for example "Mario can ride Yoshi in Super Mario World." should be something like "Mario riding Yoshi in Super Mario World. Yoshi is a common theme among mario games and in some such as Super Mario World, Mario can ride Yoshi. In other games yoshi appears as the main character" or something similar. <small>[[User:RN|Ryan Norton]] <sup><font color="#6BA800">[[User talk:RN|T]]</font> | <font color="#0033FF">[[Special:Emailuser/RN|@]]</font> | <font color="#FF0000">[[Special:Contributions/RN|C]]</font></sup></small> 00:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think that is prudent in this case. Since the image is placed within the section describing Mario's abilities, the phrase "Mario can ride..." instead of "Mario riding" emphasises that this is an ability. [[User:Jacoplane|Jacoplane]] 00:27, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
== Reorganizing image layout ==
I've been playing around with the layout of images on this page, see the history for details. I felt the old layout was a bit random in terms of placement. Images overlapping section borders are generally not a good idea. But, if anyone feels otherwise, please say so... the changes I've made are very subjective, and we should have consensus on how we feel this page should look. [[User:Jacoplane|Jacoplane]] 00:38, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
== metal ==
can you put more about metal mario?
:What did you have in mind? (Note: you can sign your messages here by putting four tildas (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) after your post) [[User:Fieari|Fieari]] 20:39, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
:The only things worth mentioning are that Metal Mario is a boss for Wario in Dr. Mario 64, and that he's in SSBM's Adventure. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 21:40, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
== stages, levels, another wiki entry ==
This game features the stage-level concept.
Does anyone know where this started ?
We could add the stage-level concept to
wikipedia. Other games like Shinobi
and Wonderboy feature it. And hundreds more
afterwards. Anyone wants to help out
making a wiki page about the stage-level concept ?
mail angelo88@gmail.com.
== Most recent edit==
The most recent edit has something about a building manager, rent, etc. Is this sourced? Can anyone confirm this? [[User:Kertrats|Kertrats]] | [[User talk:Kertrats|Talk]] 00:29, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
:[http://www.classicgaming.com/tmk/mario_history.shtml The Mushroom Kingdom's History of Mario] has a similar, but not as detailed story. Does that help any? [[User:Agent CH|Agent CH]] 02:56, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
::Alright, it's probably accurate, then; I just didnt want complete nonsense added in without any proof. [[User:Kertrats|Kertrats]] | [[User talk:Kertrats|Talk]] 03:38, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
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