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The test itself is copyrighted and they aggressively pursue violators so it should not be posted. For the curious, it's easy to find various illicit copies using google.
==Suburbs==
--[[User:Cshay|Cshay]] 18:31, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
First off, nice work on the suburb categories [[User: Shinjiman|Shinjiman]].
== Google Search Link ==
I'd like to help you out with [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Perth|WikiProject Perth]]. You might have noticed that I started the list of Perth suburbs and created stubs for a lot of those suburbs, I just haven't had a chance (or the motivation) to create the rest. For information about the suburbs I've found [http://www.dola.wa.gov.au DOLA], [http://www.reiwa.com.au REIWA] and the local councils websites have been useful, although I've still got to read the copyright info for DOLA. If you need assistance with anything please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue adding suburbs. [[User:Meesham|Meesham]] 09:42, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Please leave the finely tuned google links in place. Here's why: Any single link you include will not survive as owners of the Beck test are shutting down web sites. It's best to use the google search and let people find whatever happens to be available at the moment. Thanks for your cooperation!!! [[User:Cshay|Cshay]] 23:36, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
Is there anyone have the comments about the Article naming for the suburbs? Seems some names are names as [Suburb A, Western Australia], but some of them are named [Suburb B, Australia] or [Suburb C]. Is that we need to unite them to a uniform naming conveetions?? :) [[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] 16:20, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
When I started adding some I only added '''Australia''' or '''Western Australia''' to disambig with other articles. Other editors have been changing some of them over to [Suburb, Western Australia], and for ones that I've been working on recently I've been changing them over to that format too. I think [Suburb, Western Australia] would be the best format, so that would be my vote. [[User:Meesham|Meesham]] 16:38, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Support. :D [[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] 03:42, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
If we don't get any other responses in the next couple of days we should probably just go ahead with changing them, I've already been changing a couple as I go along.
I think [[South Perth, Western Australia|South Perth]] is now a good example of what we should try to aim for for atleast the local council pages, maybe all of the suburb pages. This is thanks mainly to an anonymous user ([[User:203.59.82.69|203.59.82.69]]) who added a lot of the history, although finding history for the other suburbs will probably be difficult. The only thing that page is missing now in my opinion is a map of the area, showing the boundaries of the suburb and/or the local council. It could probably also do with a bit more information about the current state of South Perth, like popular areas etc (I'm not too sure, as I'm a northerner :) ) [[User:Meesham|Meesham]] 10:32, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Hi guys, I've finally worked out how to contribute (I think I've got it right!) to this page. I only recently discovered the Wikipages and more as an experiment than deliberate intent, I decided to add some material to the South Perth page. Mainly this was because my Wife works for the City and I pick up lots of useful history and information. The COSP webpage has a lot of information about suburb and street name history; I know because I did a lot of web research for her at home. The pages are buried very deep in the website but are worth searching for. The REIWA website is singularly unhelpful. I've also done a bit on Waterford, for the same reasons as above, and also added some stuff about Dianella.
--[[User:Robert Fraser|Robert Fraser]] 07:49, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
== Stations ==
For currently, I have doing about the Train Stations and Bus Stations in Perth, which are provided by [[Transperth]]. Also, I have done about 3 Train Stations in Perth, but proposed to adding a infobox on the top right hand corner. The box at the bottom are created similar as [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Melbourne|WikiProject Melbourne]]. Hopfully can finished them soon. :-) --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] 12:57, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
:I think these articles (for basic ones, anyway) are shaping up really well - nice work! [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 13:06, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The infobox that're proposed should be like this (that will be created later):
{|border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 id=toc
|valign=top|
;For Train Stations:
{|border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 id=toc
||'''station_name=Name of ststion'''
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||code=Station 3 digit code
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||image=Station photo if available
|-
||servicearea=Major Servicing Area (Train Line Serviced)
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||servicearea_textcolor=Text Colour of Train Line [Black/White]
|-
||servicearea_color=Colour of Train Line [name/RRGGBB]
|-
||street=Location of Street, Road, or Highway
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||suburb=Location of Suburb
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||zone=Fare Zone
|-
||distance=Distance from Perth Train Station
|-
||patterns=Patterns stops at this station
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||platforms=Total number of Platforms
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||platform_arch=Architecture of Platform [Island|Side]
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||faregates=Existence of Fare Gates
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||access=Accessed by [Footbridge/Maze/Underground Pass]
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||tgbooth=Transit Guard Booth
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||trainconnect=Train Connections
|-
||busconnect=Bus Connections
|-
||stands=Total number of bus stands (if available)
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||routes=Total number of bus routes (if available)
|-
||pnr=Park 'n' Ride
|-
||lnr=Lock 'n' Ride
|-
||lifts=Lifts
|-
||escalators=Escalators
|-
||phones=Public Phones
|-
||toilets=Public Toilets
|}
|valign=top|
;For Bus Stations:
{|border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 id=toc
||'''station_name=Name of ststion'''
|-
||image=Station photo if available
|-
||servicearea=Major Servicing Area
|-
||servicearea_textcolor=Text Colour of Major Servicing Area [Black/White]
|-
||servicearea_color=Colour of Major Servicing Area [name/RRGGBB]
|-
||street=Location of Street, Road, or Highway
|-
||suburb=Location of Suburb
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||zone=Fare Zone
|-
||stands=Total number of bus stands
|-
||routes=Total number of bus routes
|-
||trainconnect=Train Connections
|-
||pnr=Park 'n' Ride
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||security=Transit Security exists
|-
||phones=Public Phones
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||toilets=Public Toilets
|}
|}
(users can edit the table above to include the information that should have for the train/bus station.)
--[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] 13:13, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Just updated [[Perth railway station|Perth Train Station]] for the trial of this kind of template. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] 17:56, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Changed a variablle from ''platform_style'' to ''platform_arch'' for better meaning. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 02:30, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Just added a new attribute: street --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 03:51, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Change a attribute from esclators to escalators. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 15:44, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
Just added a attribute ''security'' into the Bus Station template. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)
I just noticed that the midland and fremantle line stations are not showing up in the transperth catrgoy. [[User:Trisreed|Trisreed]]
===Stations order===
As the stations names are shown, which way to shown the direction from/to Perth is better?
;Using Perth at the center station order (Perth station at the top):
*Perth - Armadale
*Perth - Fremantle
*Perth - Joondalup
*Perth - Mandurah
*Perth - Midland
;Using track up-down order (Track-up station on the left and Track-down station on the right):
*Perth - Armadale
*Fremantle - Perth
*Perth - Joondalup
*Perth - Mandurah
*Perth - Midland
also, which way to shown the Thornlie Spur Line is better?
*Cannington - Thornlie (Logically connected adjecent stations, bypassing Beckenham)
*Beckenham - Thornlie (Physically connected adjacent stations)
[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 11:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Use perth as the centre station, that's where it all starts. <s>and i prefer cannington-thornlie since that is how the train is going to stop.</s>
[[User:Sandstorm6299|Sandstorm6299]] 13:08, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I take that back, i think revert to beckenham-thornlie (my bad, sorry), since that is the physical connection, but in the armadale line page, use the patterns to indicate no stopping at beckenham
[[User:Sandstorm6299|Sandstorm6299]] 15:00, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
''~ Depot boxes is moved to below. ~''
Also, the new station is opening sunday, so we can hopefully get a picture for it
Good job on the WikiProject, [[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]]
[[User:Trisreed|Trisreed]] 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
===Gonna to be rush===
I will gonna to be rushing about those articles except Mandurah Line, and hopfully finishes in these one to two weeks. The progress becomes lots faster than before. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 8 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)
===Dash or Slash===
According to the [[Armadale Line]] Timetable, the title used is [Armadale / Thornlie Line]; also in the Stopping Pattern in the [[Armadale Line]] Timetable, the word [Armadale - Thornlie Line] is used, also this is used on the display in the [[Perth railway station|Perth Station]] platforms. So which form of display is more correct, a / or a - ??? --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 01:28, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
Right now, I think they are being treated as 2 separate lines: Armadale Line and Thornlie Line... it's just that they share the same stations all the way to Cannington, and they share the same colour code. I think it would be best to put Armadale/Thornlie Line, as that is what is printed on the front of the timetable, and also the Transperth website. But I think it might be best to wait until something official comes out. Oh and were you there at the Thornlie station opening ceremony this morning? Just wondering... [[User:Sandstorm6299|Sandstorm6299]] 12:22, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
:Unfortunately, I am not at the Thornlie Station opening ceremony at this morning, but I think I may take a photograph of Thornlie Station in next morning, and upload that into here. :) --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 12:36, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
===Depot boxes===
''~ Moved from above ~''
Also, as the bus depots are mentioned in [[Path Transit]] and the train depots in [[Transperth Trains]], maybe there could be a depot box? [[User:Trisreed|Trisreed]] 8:17, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)
''~ end moving ~''
:We can do the infoboxes about the train/bus depots, seems the ___location of the train/bus depots are not very convinent for public transport routes, it's harder to take a photograph as like the stations. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 16:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
==Landmarks==
Just an idea, that some comment should be made about the landmarks,
as otherwise outsiders might not have the faintest the barracks arch
or bell tower might really mean? [[User:Vcxlor|vcxlor]] 07:32, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
== Stations ==
Maybe you could add whether it is level, underground, or above ground station? [[User:Trisreed|Trisreed]] 05:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
:Well, at the moment, Subiaco is the only underground station (I think), and the new Mandurah rail line will be adding only 2 more (Esplanade and the Perth station's William Street underground platforms). The rest of the stations are ground-level so I don't think there is any point to it. [[User:Sandstorm6299|Sandstorm6299]] 16:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
::I agree with Sandstorm's opinion. The underground station can be told in the contents of the page, no idea is that Joondalup Station is also a underground station? (remember sign your name using four tides after discussion) --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 01:32, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
== Bus services ==
just a few issues to address
1. should we put all connecting bus services for all stations.. example: [[Oats Street railway station, Perth|Oats Street]] is considered a station with connecting bus services (with bus stands) but Shinjiman has also put other routes which don't have an allocated official stand i.e. 282 and 283.. so should this be the case for all other stations? e.g. [[Kenwick railway station, Perth|Kenwick]] is not officially a station with connecting bus services, but 220 passes by the station along Albany Highway
2. the [[Esplanade Busport]] page is in a mess, maybe putting all the bus stands in order, then showing which company owns which service by colour? like all sWAn Transit can be in orange, then Southern Coast Transit in red and Path Transit in green? [[User:Sandstorm6299|Sandstorm6299]] 08:50, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
:1. It can put all bus connections in the page, But the stand listing is more clear in the article. And also we can put the connection in sentence for other connections. (mostly the stand details are obtained from online PDF timetables.)
:2. I agree with this opinion, see [http://www.swantransit.com.au/st/st-operating.asp here] for the contract areas between each contractors. --[[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ⇔ [[User talk:Shinjiman|♨]] 09:39, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
==Stub templates==
Discussion on the naming of stub templates relating to this and other Australian city wikiprojects is in progress at [[WP:WSS/P#Australian cities]]. Feel free to comment. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 01:45, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
==Freeways, Highways & Major Roads==
Newcomer here... Just letting you guys know I just completed a detailed article of the [[Mitchell Freeway]] & [[Kwinana Freeway]] and I will probably do many more articles on the major Perth Highways & Roads. Either Clean them up or create new ones? Anyone wishing to help or supply pictures? [[User:Boochan|Boochan]] 13:44, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
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