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In [[neuroscience]], the '''Morris water maze''' is a behavioral procedure designed to test [[spatial memory]]. It was developed by [[neuroscientist]] [[Richard Morris]] in [[1981]], and is commonly used today to explore the role of the [[hippocampus]] in the formation of [[spatial memory|spatial memories]].
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== Overview ==
In the typical [[paradigm]], a [[rat]] or [[mouse]] is placed into a small pool of [[opaque]] water—back-end first to avoid [[stress (medicine)|stress]], and facing the pool-side to avoid bias—which contains a escape platform hidden a few [[millimeter]]s below the water surface. Visual cues, such as colored shapes, are placed around the pool in plain sight of the animal.
==Typo 2== == == ==
Under Did You Know section:
"that Abelisaurus had a lighter skull that other dinosaurs due to large fenestrations behind its eyes?"
"that" should be "than."
- [[User:68.42.189.219|68.42.189.219]] 21:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
The pool is usually 4 to 6 feet in diameter and 2 feet deep. The pool could instead be half-filled with water at 1 foot deep. Some sidewall above the waterline prevents the rat from being distracted by lab activity. Mice are less cooperative in the water maze, but the bonus is that they are available as ‘knockout’ [[mutant]]s.
== Typo ==
''Under the Did You Know section'':
...that the town of Moronvilliers was totally destroyed in WWI and was also a dite for French dry-nuclear testing? <br>
Someone with the right privledges ought to change "dite" to "site."
--[[User:138.16.21.127|138.16.21.127]] 22:44, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed. Thanks. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 22:51, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
When released, the rat swims around the pool in search of an exit while various [[parameter]]s are recorded, including the time spent in each [[quadrant]] of the pool, the time taken to reach the platform ([[Latency (engineering)|latency]]), and total distance traveled. The rat's escape from the water reinforces its desire to quickly find the platform, and on subsequent trials (with the platform in the same position) the rat is able to locate the platform more rapidly. This improvement in performance occurs because the rat has learned where the hidden platform is located relative to the conspicuous visual cues. If the rat does not escape within 1 to 2 minutes, it is rescued. After enough practice, a capable rat can swim directly from any release point to the platform. This ability is attributed to a spatial map in a [[brain]] area called the [[hippocampus]].
==align images==
if you look at ITN/DYK on the [[:de:]] ''Hauptseite'', you'll note that they align images with the paragraph they actually refer to; why shouldn't en: imitate this, it would make for a much less confusing Main Page. [[User:130.60.142.65|130.60.142.65]] 16:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:Besides the obvious consequence that it'll make the layout look uneven, I think the basic idea behind this suggestion is a good one. And if the uneven layout is too big of a problem, maybe we could as a rule let the first item in ITN/DYK be the one matching the picture. --[[User:Codemonkey|Codemonkey]] 00:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:DYK always has the image with the article it relates to on top, ITN is a pit more variable.--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 00:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
*Yes, unless it has been changed, the first listed DYK item should be related to the image, or rather viceversa. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 11:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== Pharmacological manipulation ==
==Hispanic Day==
Various [[drug]]s can be applied to test subjects before, during, or after maze training, which can reveal information about spatial learning and its underlying mechanisms. For example rats treated with the [[NMDA receptor]] blocker [[APV]] perform poorly in the Morris water maze, suggesting that NMDA receptors play a vital role in spatial learning [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1345945]. And since [[long-term potentiation]] -- a potential [[biology|biological]] mechanism for behavioral learning -- also requires NMDA receptors, spatial learning may require LTP.
why in the selected anniversaries, oct 12th stand only in spain as Hispanidad Day? as far as i know october 12th is a holiday throught latinamerica, although can change offical denomination from country to country and from time to time, as Venezuela´s last change of demarkation, but basically remaindering the same, the anniversary of Columbus arrival to America...
Liang et al reported in [[1994]] that spatial learning requires both [[NMDA receptor|NMDA]] and [[AMPA receptor]]s, consolidation requires NMDA receptors, and the retrieval of spatial memories requires AMPA receptors [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=7796636].
== Polish Names ==
== Water maze vs. Conventional mazes ==
Isn't the "that not all [[Polish names]] end in -ski?" rather ignorant or insulting ? [[User:Robmods|Robmods]] 17:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Watermaze has advantages over conventional mazes (e.g., [[plus maze]]). There are no [[local cue]]s such as [[scent trace]]s; no fixed escape-fomula; the rat makes good progress in the trials because it wants to escape. Rats are natural swimmers – they are not distressed but they do want to find that platform. Mice have an option to float, and maybe this is why they are not so cooperative in watermaze. It has been suggested that they don’t aim to find the platform, but trick the technician into rescuing them.
:I thought it was too. It seems inappropriate for Wikipedia, especially on the main page. --[[User:209.7.171.66|209.7.171.66]] 20:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
== Watermaze analysis ==
::Since both the article and the DYK entry were written by a Pole - they didn't seem to think so.--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 00:15, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
The earliest and classic measure of learning is ''[[Latency (engineering)|latency]]'', which refers to the amount of time it takes to find the platform. However, rats can cheat. They might guess an area and swim a search pattern, getting to the platform quite quickly. There is a whole bunch of further analyses, which can tease out true spatial learning. The same swim is used, but a [[video tracker]] is required. Professional systems come with a suite of analysis features to extract measures such as time and path in [[quadrant]]s, near platform, in any specified area. The [[Gallagher measure]] looks for average distance to platform. The [[Whishaw corridor test]] measures time and path in a strip from swim-start to platform.
Mice are smart
== Atlantis platform ==
:::I thought they meant it was insulting to non-Poles, because it implies we would be amazed to know that. I agree. [[User:207.168.210.39|207.168.210.39]] 02:24, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
A more advanced way to stop the rats cheating is the [[Atlantis rising platform]], which stays deep in the water and only rises when the rat lingers at the right place.
::::I was not insulted. I think that the intent was not to insult, but rather to sound inquisitvely enthusiastic. Call me naïve, but I believe that people do not set out to write insulting articles in Wikipedia. I try to give everyone the good ol' NPOV benefit of the doubt. I thought that it was a pretty cute lead in to morphology of Polish surnames. My $.02. [[User:CVS|CVS]]
== References ==
:::::In fairness, the anonymous editor didn't say the insult was intentional. — [[User:Pekinensis|Pekinensis]] 19:27, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
* Davis S, Butcher SP, Morris RG. "The NMDA receptor antagonist D-2-amino-5-phosphonopentanoate (D-AP5) impairs spatial learning and LTP in vivo at intracerebral concentrations comparable to those that block LTP in vitro." ''J Neurosci''. 1992 Jan;12(1):21-34. PMID 1345945
::::::DID YOU KNOW.... That not all black people are stupid? [[User:Descendall|Descendall]] 01:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
* Liang KC, Hon W, Tyan YM, Liao WL. "Involvement of hippocampal NMDA and AMPA receptors in acquisition, formation and retrieval of spatial memory in the Morris water maze." ''Chin J Physiol.'' 1994;37(4):201-12. PMID 7796636
[[de:Morris-Wasserlabyrinth]]
:I thought it was harmless :). [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 17:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
==External links==
:I thought it was harmless :). [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 17:01, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
* [http://www.hvsimage.com/papers/index.htm Watermaze publications 1966-2002]
* [http://neco.mitpress.org/cgi/content/abstract/10/1/73 Information on the hippocampus]
* [http://www.mailtalk.ac.uk/archives/watermaze.html The UK Academic Watermaze Discussion Group]
[[Category:Mazes]]
== Rosh Hashanah ==
[[Category:Neuroscience]]
Why isn't Rosh Hashanah listed in the Selected Anniversaries? [[User:62.194.65.250|62.194.65.250]] 20:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:Because Rosh Hashanah (unlike, say, Christmas or New Years) is based on the lunar calendar instead of the Gregorian one (and thus does not stay the same from year to year) [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 20:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
::This is a technical obstacle, but not an insuperable one. [[User: Doops|Doops]] | [[User_talk:Doops | talk]] 20:43, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but it's not an anniversary, stricly speaking. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><FONT COLOR="green">*</FONT></SMALL>]] 03:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Actually, it's almost the prototypical anniversary, strictly speaking. There's just a funny [[year]] involved. [[User: Doops|Doops]] | [[User_talk:Doops | talk]] 05:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:::::Are you saying that the Lunar claendar as calculated by Judaism is not a year? Rosh HaShanah is on the 1 and 2 of Tishray every Hebrew year, just as New Years is on 1 January. It is an anniversary; just because the secular and jewish calendars don't operate relative to each other does not mean it is not a year.
Actually, Rosh Hashanah was not listed in the Selected Anniversaries template on October 4 because I had posted it on October 3 and indicated that it "begins at sunset". (See [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 3]].) Is this a problem ? I thought the feast was on the evening of October 3. No ? ... Come to think of it, what I did won't work well on the US West Coast. It was already October 4 by UTC time before their sunset, and the MainPage gets changed at midnight UTC. It works for local time in Israel, though. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 06:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:Days in Judaism begin at Sunset and end the next Sunset, except for holy days, which end when three stars shine. Therefore, Rosh HaShanah goes from 10/3 at sunset to 10/5 at night.
==Nobel Prizes==
Shouldn't the news headline focus on all the Nobel Prizes rather than just the physics one?
:but the physics one was today [[User:BrokenSegue|'''B'''roken]] [[User talk:BrokenSegue|'''S''']] 21:19, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
:Only the medicine and physics winners have been announced so far. Chemistry is October 5, Peace Prize is October 7, Economics is October 10 and Literature prize will be announced at a later date. [[User:Evil Monkey|Evil Monkey]]∴[[User talk:Evil Monkey|Hello]] 23:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
==Spelling==
Under "Tu’i Tonga Empire", "influencial" should be "influential". [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] 23:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
== Vandals right in your face. ==
You can fix the news image of Harriet Myers and Bush now, thank you very much. [[User:Kreachure|Kreachure]] 00:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
See below. [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]) 00:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== F---ed Up Image ==
:<small>(Sorry, I had to tame the offensive language. The meaning won't be lost by using dashes. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 06:29, 5 October 2005 (UTC))</small>
Some vandal has replaced the image of Miers with apparantly Teddy Roosevelt. --[[User:Boycottthecaf|Boycottthecaf]] 00:34, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yeah, it was a commons photo and someone uploaded that one to that ___location. Someone then uploaded it from commons and protected it. However no one purged the cache, which I promptly did, and it should be fixed now. [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]) 00:36, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== Ramadan: Featured tomorrow? ==
I would like to know if Ramadan will be featured tomorrow, since Rosh Hashanah was not featured today.
([[User:SeanMcG|SeanMcG]] 02:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC))
:What do you mean by "featured"? Neither Ramadan nor Rosh Hashanah are featured articles and thus cannot be the featured article on the main page. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 03:38, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry, I meant to say if it will be in the "In the News" section ([[User:SeanMcG|SeanMcG]] 04:04, 5 October 2005 (UTC))
::Probably doesn't belong there either...best way would be to make provision for including certain "movable feasts" in "featured anniversaries." [[User: Doops|Doops]] | [[User_talk:Doops | talk]] 05:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Actually, Ramadan was on [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 4]], as the festivities were supposed to start at sunset on October 4. Where the heck is the new moon ? -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 06:09, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
: I thought about re-posting Ramadan on [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/October 5]], and changed my mind after searching for Ramadan on Google news. Apparently, many other countries in the world indeed started the festivities in the evening of October 4. I plan to handle [[Laylat al-Qadr]] and [[Eid ul-Fitr]] the same way -- go by the astronomical calculations, instead of checking the sky myself. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 06:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
==King of England==
On the newset articvle section, King of England is mentioned. There was no 'King of England 'at this time: George III was king of Great Britain, as the act of Union had united England and Scotland in 1707.
:I just changed this in the article, an admin will have to change it on the template. [[User_talk:Ziggur|Ziggur]] 11:16, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed in the template as well. Thanks. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 11:21, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== Nobel Chemistry ==
Can a sysop update the front page with the Nobel Prize for Chemistry result. [[User:Batmanand|Batmanand]] 14:24, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== Asthma ==
No, asthma is not a disease of the respiratory system, it is a whole-body genetic disorder manifested in the respiratory system. Asthma manifests as a hyperactivity of the muscles of the lungs causing difficulty in breathing. Other manifestations of the same disorder are hyperactivity in general; "Attention Deficit Disorder"; "Hyperactive Deficit Disorder", and other such symptoms.
The disorder is best treated not by drugs but by teaching affected children relaxation techniques; muscle control; stress and anger management; and by no means last that they are not affected by disease but an inherited genetic anomaly.
It is important for such an influential journal to get this right. Were the matter posted on a normal editable page I would have simply edited it. That it is posted on an uneditable main page is unfortunate.
Asthma and its related disorders caused great suffering. We might rather seek to alleviate that suffering.
Gil
: Asthma "is not a disease of the respiratory system"? I disagree. Gil, your claim that "asthma manifests as a hyperactivity of the muscles of the lungs" is too simplistic. Your comparison with attention deficit disorder is inappropriate. You think that asthma is best treated by teaching relaxation technique? There is no randomized controlled evidence to support your claim. On the other hand, there are many such studies that show beneficial outcomes with drug treatment. Asthma does indeed cause great suffering. Too many people die because of inadequately treated asthma. If only those people received appropriate drug treatment in good time, their deaths could be avoided. [[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:22, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
: Gil, "hyperactivity" can mean so many things. Don't equate them when you see the same word. .... sigh .... It's not "unfortunate" that "it is posted on an uneditable main page". "Whole-body genetic disorder manifest in the respiratory system" ? Excuse my ignorance. What is that ? -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 16:55, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
:What is a [[genetic disorder]] also called? Oh, right - a disease. As Axl says, your attempt to conflate [[ADHD]] with the actions of '''involuntary muscles''' in the respiratory tract is silly. I also encourage you to attempt to teach a six year old child relaxation techniques before so blithely advocating them here. — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|★]]</font> <font color="darkred">[http://ceejayoz.com/ .com]</font></sup> 17:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
asthma= chronic REACTIVE airway DISORDER, it's exacerbated by many means ex: dust, chemicals in the air, excitability, smoke and etc. The bronchioles spasm out of control not allowing proper air exchange and they fill up with mucous causing edema (swelling) to the inner lining of the lung (thus treatment is necessary to relieve the spasm and dry the mucous to allow air passage)and can possibly cause suffocation and aventually death if not relieved. Yes it's concidered a disease. just my 0.02cnts and some experience.--[[User:Charle301|Charle301]] 16:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Asthma is a lung disease. When was the last time you saw a patient with severe asthmatic attack to the point of respiratory arrest and ask him/her to do "relaxation therapy"? You'd kill the patient.
== Minor language use. ==
In the "Did you know..." section it says:<br>
...that the British Army used the Gatling gun in the combat for the first time at the Battle of Ulundi during the Anglo-Zulu War?
it should be this:<br>
...that the British Army used the Gatling gun in ((the)) combat for the first time at the Battle of Ulundi during the Anglo-Zulu War?
or, maybe, this:<br>
...that the British Army used the Gatling gun for the first time in the combat at the Battle of Ulundi during the Anglo-Zulu War?
<small>(''preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment by'' {{user|80.58.9.44}} 21:38, 2005 October 5)</small>
: I just took out the extra 'the'. Thanks for pointing this out. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 21:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
== Temporar faulty ==
According to the main page 67 people have died in Mexico, according to Current Events and it's source 66 people have died in Mexico. (But I can't find where to correct this.)
<small>(''preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment by'' {{user|62.101.38.241}} 09:33, 2005 October 6)</small>
: ITN on the MainPage reflects Wikipedia contents. Current events reflects content of newspapers. Both can be outdated. What is the death toll now ? By the way, it's not Mexico. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 09:58, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
== The Mandinka link is to a disambiguation page ==
The [[Mandinka]] link in today's ''Did you know'' is actually to a disambiguation page. It should actually be to [[Mandinka people]].
:Fixed. Thanks! --<span style="font-family:monospace"> [[User:Grm_wnr|grm_wnr]] </span>[[User_talk:Grm_wnr|<span style="border:1px solid;color:black;font-size:9px;padding:2px 1px 0px 1px">Esc</span>]] 12:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
== What happened? ==
I'm assuming it was either a mistake or vandalism, but there isn't anything around the outside of the main page anymore, just the main content. Does anyone know what happened? --[[User:Madison Gray|Madison Gray]] 01:25, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
:It was cleaned up, so a lot of stuff that was just clutter was taken out. [[User:Zscout370|Zach]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 03:33, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
: What was missing ? The navigation, search and tool boxes ? I think that thing are just loading on screen more slowly these days. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 05:07, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
== # of Articles ==
The main page uses the exact # of articles without apparently being updated all the time. Is there a way I can use the # in an article?
<nowiki>{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}</nowiki> puts this in. Please do NOT use it in an article, however (if you want to put it on your user page, that's fine. But it is NEVER relevant in an article (not even the article on [[Wikipedia]] uses it). <font color="red">[[User:Ral315|Ral]]</font><font color="green">[[User talk:Ral315|315]]</font> <font color="blue">[[WP:SIGN|W<sub>S</sub>]]</font> 21:09, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
==Commiepedia!!==
[[Image:Hammer and sickle.png|right|200px]]
OMG, Wikipedia's clear communist bias is apparent from today's main page, with with Che Gueverra, Sun Yat Sen, and Sochi, Russia all being highlghted on the main page! [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 09:53, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
: Emmm..., I thought Dr. Sun, co-founder of the [[Kuomintang]], would be on the Nationalists' side, with the Communists on the other side. No ?..... I think the commies are at the bottom only. Maybe Wikipedia is suppressing them ... :-) -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 13:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
::Not quite - Sun is unique in that *BOTH* the communists AND the nationalists consider him one of theirs. [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 16:27, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
::: This makes him, at the most, a semi-commie ! -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 18:38, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
::::Pffft...details... [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 20:17, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
:Duh! Remember, the [[GPL]] and its derivatives are commie plots, and guess what license Wikipedia uses?! — [[User:Ceejayoz|ceejayoz]] <sup><font color="darkred">[[User_talk:Ceejayoz|★]]</font> <font color="darkred">[http://ceejayoz.com/ .com]</font></sup> 01:26, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::Arbcom is communism. Larry Sanger is Marx. RickK is Che. Raul654 is Castro. And word has it that I'm Stalin. [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]) 01:44, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Can I be Trotskij? If so, please don't kill me. [[User:Gkhan|gkhan]] 10:46, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:Raul654 I really thought you were [[User:Wikipedia is Communism|WiC]]. These pranks are immature and frankly not funny and I think you'll lose your arbcom bid because of them ;-) <small>before you call that an attack see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Admin_User:Redwolf24].</small> [[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">R</font>]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">e</font>]][[User:Redwolf24|<font color="darkblue">dwolf24</font>]] ([[User talk:Redwolf24|talk]]) 01:50, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
hello? I am used to anon losers shouting Commiepedia!! here, but seasoned Heroes of Wikilabour with 25370 edits? I must say... [[User:83.77.221.225|83.77.221.225]] 10:07, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:I must say that frankly, I'm quite comforted to know that being in the higher echelons of Wikipedia does not take away your sense of humour. ;) --[[User:Codemonkey|Codemonkey]] 12:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::(Reply to the Anon) As Codemonkey says, the above comments were made with tongue planted firmly in cheek (heck, I'm the one who scheduled Sun Yat Sen for the main page!). [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 13:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
== best 5 out of 8? ==
"5 games to 3"? --[[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 11:24, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
:One would have to assume that they played a best-of-nine wins game, so when one of the teams got 5 games, they had won. (''infact, I just checked the article [[1919 World Series]], and it appears to be just so'') [[User:Gkhan|gkhan]] 11:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
: Odd, eh ? That's why it was posted on the MainPage, hoping people would click and read. :-) -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 18:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
== Mac IE ==
On Macintosh Internet Explorer, the "In the news" section is stretched waaaay off the edge of the screen, with a big empty space in the bbox, with the "Featured article" squeezed over in the left side. It didn't use to look like that.[[User:67.34.202.170|67.34.202.170]] 17:29, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
HI! sorry that you are having problems
:Try [[Safari (web browser)|Safari]], it's free from Apple and is more up-to-date than IE which has not been supported by MS for some time now. Another option would be [[Firefox]], another free browser that is more advanced than IE for Mac. --[[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 03:08, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:I'm probably asking a stupid question, but are we sure there's no practical way to fix this problem? I hate IE for Mac as much as anybody, but "get a real browser" seems like an awkward sort of fix for people who like IE (for some reason). [[User:Lord Bob|Lord Bob]] 03:51, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
== WTF is Leif Erikson day ==
and why does it deserve a mention on the main page? --[[User:68.9.197.69|68.9.197.69]] 21:20, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
: So people like you will learn about [[Leif Erikson]]? ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 21:53, 9 October 2005 (UTC))
:: I know about Leif Erikson, I meant since when does he have a holiday? I've certainly never heard of it. --[[User:200.118.2.214|200.118.2.214]] 23:12, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
::: If the article doesn't say he has a holiday, it might just mean that someone such as the [[Governor of Minnesota]] issued a proclamation to honor him. But the Anniversaries on the Main Page should have proper links. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 20:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC))
:::: MainPage linked to [[Leif Erikson Day]] on that day. Is there a more proper link ? (for next year) -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 02:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
*Probably because you're not Scandinavian. But since it's an important historical figure, I think any holiday in his name would deserve mentioning on the main page even if some don't know him. All the better to learn about him and the holiday. - [[User:131.211.51.34|131.211.51.34]] 11:24, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
*gosh, imagine an [[encyclopedia]] with 750k articles telling you something that you didn't know, how neat is that!
**Happy Leif Erikson day! Yahinga, dinga, durgen! <font color="red">[[User:Ral315|Ral]]</font><font color="green">[[User talk:Ral315|315]]</font> <font color="blue">[[WP:SIGN|W<sub>S</sub>]]</font> 04:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
== CP ==
post info on cerebral palsy
:Er... [[Cerebral Palsy]]--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 16:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
==Errors==
had to work for a while to get to this page, but Is anyone else getting this message on any random page?
<code>Fatal error: Call to undefined function: linkprefix() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Parser.php on line 1232</code>
Wikipedia's slow, and there must be some error...-- <font size = "1" face = "Verdana">[[User:Pmam21|pmam21]]<sup>''[[User talk:Pmam21|talk]]''</sup><sub>''[[User:Pmam21/articles|articles]]''</sub></font> 00:27, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Yup, me too. It happens all the time (i.e., refreshing gives the same error) on some pages (e.g. [[WP:VPT]]), and not at all on most. ~~ '''[[User:Nickptar|N]]''' ([[User talk:Nickptar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Nickptar|c]]) 00:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
== Admins.. please fix a grammatical error on dyk. ==
In today's entry, the phrase "which is currently spoken by less than 100 people," should read "which is currently spoken by '''fewer''' than 100 people." Please fix this problem; I would if I could. --[[User:Zantastik|Zantastik]] <font color=darkgreen size=1>[[User talk:Zantastik|talk]]</font> 09:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:This is one of the tiredest pedantic contentions in English usage. Less means fewer. Languages evolve. Get over it. [[User:CalJW|CalJW]] 10:09, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::It doesn't hurt if we change it to "fewer". So changed it. -- [[User:Sundar|Sundar]] <sup>\[[User talk:Sundar|talk]] \[[Special:Contributions/Sundar|contribs]]</sup> 10:37, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
== Nobel Economics ==
I know it always seems to be me, but can a sysop put up the Nobel Economics result 2005 (http://nobelprize.org)? Thanks! [[User:Batmanand|Batmanand]] 12:55, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
== Sysop help needed ==
Someone please update the news section with Merkel becoming new Chancellor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news_section_on_the_Main_Page/Candidates
It has been waiting for hours now. Someone need to frequent that page on a regular basis if the news template has to be protected.
:I've updated the template with this now. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 13:59, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::The headline is misleading. She's now the leading candidate for chancellor, but she has yet to be confirmed by the Bundestag. Schroeder will remain chancellor through October 22. [[User:Ephemeral life|Ephemeral life]] 14:06, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:::Chenged it to "will become" to fix this. That she actually will become chancelor seems pretty certain, I've seen news reports on it all day, and CNN just aired a confirmation. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 14:31, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::I'm not convinced that she ''is'' Chancellor yet. The latest news reports state that she is 'poised to become' Chancellor, but hasn't actually got the job yet. --[[User:Heron|Heron]] 14:04, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::::I don't think there's any doubt that she will become Chancellor, but Wikipedia shouldn't really be written in the future, and things could change at the last minute (if SPD members rebel, maybe, or meteors start falling on Berlin - anything can happen in the next 12 days).
There is an error in the news. A coalition of SPD and CDU/CSU is not a "Jamaica Coalition" (this name applies to a coalition of CDU/CSU, FDP and Green Party, due to the three parties' colours black, yellow and green). A coalition of CDU/CSU and SPD is called a "Grand Coalition". --[[User:83.129.53.118|83.129.53.118]] 21:05, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
== terrorist communication? ==
I've heard that wikipedia is being used by radical islamists to communicate, that they post from public computers onto the talk pages... is that true?
--[[User:83.118.141.133|83.118.141.133]] 20:03, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
: Unlikely. An awful communication method it would be, with everything being edited to have different meanings or simply vanishing. There are plenty of less visible and more secure means of communication. ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 20:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC))
:This is untrue. Any discussion not relevant to the article (note that's the article itself, not its subject) is removed immediately, and as SEWilco points out, it's a stupid way to carry on a private conversation. — [[User:Rdsmith4|Dan]] | [[User talk:Rdsmith4|Talk]] 20:19, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Well, to be fair, it's not just talk pages; I understand that they've made some very useful contributions to the recent proposed move of [[Independent school (UK)]]. And I'm hoping for their input on [[Hunt the Wumpus]]. [[User: Doops|Doops]] | [[User_talk:Doops | talk]] 20:24, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:Doops, I do not understand? On hunt the Wumpus or indepentent school there is nothing about terror?
terror is very scary, no jokes should be made.
everyone, apart from Doops: thank you for the answer, very much.
--[[User:83.118.141.133|83.118.141.133]] 20:30, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
::Actually, from what I understand, Hunt the Wumpus is a terrorist training tool, and [[BASIC]] is widely regarded as the "Terrorist's choice of defunct progamming language." Just so you know :).--[[User:Sean Black|Sean]] [[User talk:Sean Black|Jelly Baby?]] 01:20, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:Terrorist are using computers to communicate. We need to get these machines banned before people are harmed.--[[User:Clawed|Clawed]] 09:36, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
OMG how could we not see this! The [[WP:PAC|Pokemon articles]] are CIPHER used by EVIL TERRORISTS to communicate !!
== Jamaica coalition. ==
Angela Merkel will become Germany's new Chancellor, leading a '''"Jamaica coalition"''' between SPD and CDU/CSU.
this is wrong, surely?
it should be a grand coalition. jamaica coalition would have to involve the FPD and the Greens.
YES, it is wrong! Jamaican coalition would be if the FDP (yellow) took part and the CDU (black) and the Greens (green), now it is only a black/red-coalition between CDU (black) and SPD (red). [[User:212.144.10.67|212.144.10.67]]
* I confirm, it is wrong; it is a "grosse koalition", or "grand coalition" in English. --[[User:Angelo.romano|Angelo]] 21:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
wouldnt it be nice if people checked what they posted :rollseyes:
This is correct, a coalition of CDU/CSU and SPD is a grand coalition. Also, please note that Angela Merkel will not certainly become Germany's next chancellor, as the parties have only agreed to START coalition talks --- nothing more.
erm. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4325600.stm. as i said it would be nice if people checked....
: This is not a Jamaica coalition.... Serious problem. [[User:Tfine80|Tfine80]] 21:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Fixed. ~~ '''[[User:Nickptar|N]]''' ([[User talk:Nickptar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Nickptar|c]]) 21:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
==Selected anniversaries==
Why 1954 anniversary is below 1962 anniversary on the current [[Main Page]] version? [[User:Cmapm|Cmapm]] 01:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
: Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 02:13, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
== Incorrect Czech-language Wikipedia link title ==
The link to the Czech language Wikipedia should say "Česky", not "Česká".
-- Hexagon1 12:54, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
according to the german website spiegel, it's more then 40,000 pouple.
I'm sorry, but what does a German news portal have to do with the correct spelling of the name of the Czech language in Czech? Please clarify. -- Hexagon1 04:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
It doesn't. I imagine that "Česká" was copy-pasted from "Česká Wikipedie" by somebody who didn't know what he was doing. I believe that this is the feminine adjective, meaning "something that is both Czech and feminine"; "Česky" would mean "in the Czech language", which would be better, but note that the 'native' article for the Czech language is entitled [[:cs:Čeština|Čeština]], so it may be better to use that. 08:00, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
:that said, I notice that even the [[:sk:|Slovak]] Wikipedia gives "Česká (čeština)", so it cannot be that wrong after all :confused:. 08:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
== photons ==
are photons present in all forms of light?
:No. Photons are part of an outdated theory by Issac Newton. It has been known since the 19th century that light is a wave that travels through the luminiferous aether, a medium permeating the universe. I'm glad I could clear up this matter for you. [[User:AngryParsley|AngryParsley]] 18:59, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
::After doing more research on the subject, it turns out both Newton's theory and my original explanation were wrong. Light is neither a particle nor a wave, but a combination of the two known as a warticle. [[User:AngryParsley|AngryParsley]] 19:02, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:::OK, I'm going to be honest. Yes, all forms of light are made of photons. In fact all forms of EM radiation are particles called photons. But if you study quantum mechanics it gets hairier. [[Photon]] explains the whole thing better than I can. Ahh dan, why did you ruin my fun? I was going to explain the real answer eventually. [[User:AngryParsley|AngryParsley]] 19:10, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:In fact, a "particle of [[light]]" is called a [[photon]]; it appears to follow that all light does contain photons. I'm no physicist, of course, but I'm quite sure Mr. Parsley is pulling your leg, so to speak. <tt>:-)</tt> — [[User:Rdsmith4|Dan]] | [[User talk:Rdsmith4|Talk]] 19:06, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
== IPs hate Wario. ==
Sad truth. ;< - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 21:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
== Taprogge GmbH DYK ==
The [[Taprogge GmbH]] should not be linked from the main page: it's extremely one sided POV stuff. Interesting, but not up to featured article status by a long chalk. I've added a POV plate pending improvements. See the contibutor list and discussion page on that page. [[User:Mat-C|Mat-C]] 21:38, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:I don't understand the relevance of not being a featured article; the vast majority of articles the Main Page links to are not featured articles. — [[User:Knowledge Seeker|Knowledge Seeker]] [[User talk:Knowledge Seeker|দ]] 22:51, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
:I don't think it should be on the main page either. Wikipedia doesn't want to be filled with commercial tat, and linking to it from the main page is only rewarding the company. Common sense should have prevented this from happening. --[[User:81.154.236.221|81.154.236.221]] 01:17, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
The article is well written and informative, POV issues have been addressed. There are few criteria for dyk- and I see no reason why a company or person that does something unique should be barred from inclusion.--[[User:Petaholmes|nixie]] 02:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: Well, mentioning a company on MainPage has the appearance of a subtle advertisement on the front page. Other than that, it's okay. -- [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] 15:37, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
::Better that than being systematic bias against commercial entities in the project. We see enough of that on AfD thanks very much! [[User:Pcb21|Pcb21|]] [[User_talk:Pcb21|Pete]] 15:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
== Link to disambiguation page on Did you know ==
Please link to the '''correct''' condenser on the Did you know box. -- [[User:ReallyNiceGuy|Marco]] <sup>[[User_talk:ReallyNiceGuy|✉]]</sup> 08:57, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
== Columbus ==
Regarding Columbus, plesase: DO SOMETHING!!!!!![[User:Argentino|Argentino]] 19:25, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
: What's wrong with [[Columbus]] ? -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 00:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
==Francisco Pradilla Ortiz==
"..produced over a 1,000 paintings.." should be "..produced over 1,000 paintings.." [[User:Ekem|Ekem]] 00:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed. ~~ '''[[User:Nickptar|N]]''' ([[User talk:Nickptar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Nickptar|c]]) 00:19, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
== typo at DYK ==
''...that Operation Gibraltar was the name given to the failed plan by '''the''' Pakistan to infiltrate Jammu and Kashmir, India and start a rebellion and that it eventually sparked the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965?
I don't think the highlighted 'the' should be there. Can someone with sysop powers fix that, please ? -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 01:43, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 01:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:: Thank you for the speedy fixing. -- [[User:199.71.174.100|199.71.174.100]] 01:53, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
== Featured article - protected source? ==
I thought that FAs on the main page were protected. For some reason, they (and their images?) are not right now. Is it possible to do so? [[User:Ancheta Wis|Ancheta Wis]] 02:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
:The blurb that appears on the main page is protected ([[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 13, 2005]]). The article itself is not - see [[user:Raul654/protection]] [[User:Raul654|→Raul654]] 02:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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