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==Early history==
Thank you, [[User:Angela|Angela]] ([[user talk:Angela|talk]]), for your [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] welcome.
(''See also:'' [[Origins of chess]])
* [[6th century]] - [[Chaturanga]], the earliest form of chess, originated in northwest [[India]].
* [[600]] CE - A reference in the Karnamuk-i-Artakhshatr-i-Papakan is the earliest surviving evidence of Chess.
* ca. [[720]] CE - Chess is brought to the Muslim world.
* ca. [[840]] CE - First chess problems by Caliph [[Billah]] of [[Baghdad]].
* ca. [[900]] CE - Entry on Chess in the [[China|Chinese]] work [[Huan Kwai Lu]].
* [[997]] CE - [[Versus de scachis]] is the earliest known work mentioning chess in Christian Western Europe.
* [[1008]] - Mention of chess in the will of Count Uregel, another early reference.
* [[10th century]] - [[As-Suli]] writes [[Kitab Ash-Shatranj]], the earliest known work to take a scientific approach to chess strategy.
* late [[10th century]] - Dark and light squares are introduced on a chessboard.
* [[1173]] - First recorded use of [[algebraic notation]].
* late [[13th century]] - Pawns can now move two ranks on first move.
* [[1422]] - A manuscript from [[Kraków]] sets the rule that [[stalemate]] is a draw.
* [[1471]] - The Gottingen manuscript is the first book to deal solely with chess.
* [[1474]] - [[William Caxton]] publishes ''The Game and Playe of Chesse'', the first chess book in English.
* [[1490]] - The [[en passant]] rule is introduced.
* [[1497]] - [[Lucena]] publishes the first European work on chess openings.
* [[1561]] - [[Ruy Lopez]] coins the word ''gambit'' to describe opening sacrifices.
* [[1690]] - Openings are now systematically classified by the ''Traite de Lausanne''.
==Modern history==
====Pediatric gerontologist====
*[[1744]] - [[François-André Danican Philidor|Philidor]] plays two opponents blindfolded in Paris.
*[[1763]] - [[William Jones]] invents [[Caissa]], the chess muse.
Hi. Did I expect [[List of unpopulated professions]] to survive? No. It came about as a bit of midnight musing as I was dropping off to sleep, and turned into a little bit of humor to offset some of the grotesqueries of the VfD page. If it gets a laugh on its way out, I couldn't ask more.
*[[1769]] - Baron [[Wolfgang von Kempelen]] builds the [[Mechanical Turk]].
*[[1783]] - Philidor plays as much as three games simultaneously without seeing the board.
BTW, that's 'Denni' with an "i".
*[[1802]] - First American chess book, ''Chess Made Easy'', by J. Humphreys.
*[[1813]] - The [[Liverpool Mercury]] prints the world earliest chess column.
==Haemochromatosis==
*[[1824]] - First English correspondence match, London-Edinburgh.
Hi, sorry for the delay in replying. IFrom the talk page, I assume this is settled now, but just to clarify; Wikipedia doesn't support the use of American English over other types. The [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]] explains that both are acceptable, though articles should be internally consistent. If an author has chosen to write an article using British English, it should be left as that, and vice versa. Normally American topics are written in AE, but other than that, there is no requirement to use AE, so the article being at Haemochromatosis with a redirect from Hemochromatosis is perfectly acceptable. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 16:17, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)
*[[1830]] - First recorded instance of a modern female chess player (an American from [[Philadelphia]]).
*[[1834]] - First international challenge match: McDonnell (England) v de la Bourdonnais (France) at the Westminster Chess Club, London.
:I don't know of any other guidelines apart from those already linked to on [[Talk:Haemochromatosis]]. The only mention of the issue on Meta that I know of is [[m:Linguistic merging#Spellings]]. There's also the [[m:Guerilla UK spelling campaign]] if you want a different take on things! Individual articles will never be a "mishmash" of spelling variants, though there isn't really anything that can be done about the overall consistency of spelling between articles. You could always start a new discussion page on [[:meta:]] if you feel that is necessary. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 19:43, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)
*[[1840]] - Postal stamps with chess motifs begin to appear.
*[[1845]] - Telegraph is used to transmit moves in a match between London and Portsmouth.
==Imatinib==
*[[1846]] - ''Deutsche Schachzeitung'' is the first German chess magazine.
*[[1848]] - Earliest known instance of a game played between blind players.
What is this [[imatinib]] you keep creating redirects for? -[[User:Nilmerg|Nilmerg]] 08:50, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*[[1849]] - [[Staunton set]] created by [[Nathaniel Cook]].
: I see. I thought it strange that you write the redirect ''before'' the actual article. - [[User:Nilmerg|Nilmerg]] 09:07, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*[[1852]] - Sandglasses are first used to time a game.
*[[1857]] - First American Chess Congress, won by [[Paul Morphy|Morphy]].
:Referring to the colon in the redirect; nothing wrong with it, it seems, just unnecessary (and I remember correcting some redirects like that that did not work in the past). (Sorry about the late answer, got back into net just today) - [[User:Nilmerg|Nilmerg]] 08:19, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
*[[1857]] - The UK Chess Association is formed.
*[[1861]] - Games can now be played via transoceanic cables (Dublin-Liverpool).
==Neutrophil granulocyte==
*[[1867]] - Mechanical clocks are introduced in tournament play.
''Neutrophil granulocyte'' sounds redundantly redundant to (at least some) ears, as there are no ''neutrophils'' that are not ''granulocytes''. And in at least American English, the adjectival form of neutrophil is ''neutrophilic'' so the expression ''neutrophil granulocyte'' sounds ill-formed: one expects ''neutrophilic granulocyte'', not ''neutrophil granulocyte''. Is this really how they say it in your neck of the woods? - [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]] 22:39, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*[[1870]] - First tournament in Germany (Baden-Baden).
*[[1871]] - Durand publishes the first book on endgames.
Thanks for your response: I gather then it's not a British thing then. I'd much prefer to use the terms as used by those who use them; that's more or less the WikiWay. We have nothing against colloquialisms. How about keeping/moving the articles to their usual names, with redirects as needed so that we are not forced to use pipes to conceal their "oddness"? -- [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]]
*[[1873]] - The [[Sonneborn-Berger system]] is first used in a tournament.
*[[1877]] - Formation of the [[Deutsche Schachbund]].
*[[1883]] - Invention of the [[Forsyth notation]].
I'm still concerned about the notion of "neutrophil granulocytes" and the like. Colloquialisms are in fact generally left alone ("[[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)]]") which is why we have [[Bill Clinton]] and [[Jimmy Carter]]. The idea is that names used commonly are easier to link, and link correctly. Of course, Wikipedia is not entirely consistent on this, but that's supposed to be the general rule. I wouldn't classify "neutrophil" as a colloquialism: it's simply the name of the cells. I know no one who says "neutrophil granulocyte" when referring to "neutrophils". Nor is the phrase "polymorphonuclear neutrophil granulocyte" particularly appealing. I thought that this might be one of those Britishisms, but the response so far at [[Talk:Neutrophil granulocyte]] doesn't indicate that, only that you consider it more correct. I agree that changing redirects is a chore, but going back to simple and commonly used nomenclature for blood cells would, I think, be worthwhile. If it were done, I'd gladly
*[[1886]] - First official match for the champion title between [[Wilhelm Steinitz|Steinitz]] and [[Johannes Zukertort|Zukertort]].
help you with it. You could still use [[neutrophil granulocyte]] in any text where it would be needed, and it could redirect to [[neutrophil]]. The same applies to basophils, eosinophils, and the other changes. -- [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]] 19:04, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*[[1888]] - First international correspondence tournament.
*[[1888]] - USA Championship starts.
*[[1894]] - [[Emmanuel Lasker]] defeats [[Wilhelm Steinitz|Steinitz]] in a world championship match.
I agree with you that arguing is perhaps the least pleasant thing to do at Wikipedia. I like to think we were just getting a feel for what ought to be. It won't hurt to wait to see other peoples' reactions before changing anything! <G> - [[User:Nunh-huh|Nunh-huh]] 09:55, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
*[[1899]] - Chess clocks now have timeout flags.
*[[1902]] - First radio chess match by two American ships.
==Medicine in Wikipedia==
*[[1905]] - British national championship for women starts.
Hello,
*[[1910]] - [[José Raúl Capablanca|Capablanca]] is the first to win a major tournament (in New York) with a 100% score.
*[[1911]] - The first simultaneous display with more than 100 participants.
I'm glad someone brave has taken the plunge and started to clean up and improve
*[[1913]] - Publication of [[Harold Murray]]'s monumental book ''A History of Chess''.
medicine in WP.
*[[1913]] - The grasshopper is the first [[fairy piece]] invented, having its origin in the Renaissance "leaping queen".
*[[1919]] - Capablanca plays a simultane in the [[House of Commons]] against 39 players.
IMO this subject/section is in a rather messy state and needs a huge amount of work.
*[[1921]] - British correspondence championship starts.
*[[1924]] - Establishment of [[FIDE]].
I think the pivotal question for us to answer is who is going to be our aimed reader. A patient, a student, a student of medicine or a qualified healthcare professional maybe ? I don't see any possiblity to write or work collaboratively on more than one. We can send students to Wikibooks so we are facing choosing layman and professional approach. For me it would be no fun to write a middle of the road version but I think it is quite plausible to decide on one of them and start doing it. We have quite a lot of articles imported ''in toto'' from various US governmental pages and these have been clearly aimed at patients.
*[[1924]] - [[Staunton set]] officially adopted by [[FIDE]].
*[[1927]] - First official [[Chess Olympiad]] in [[London]].
Once I proposed a two tier system with corresponding "patient information" pages eg [[Diabetes mellitus]] (a state of the art scientific article) and [[Patient information on diabetes mellitus]]
*[[1935]] - [[Alexander Alekhine|Alekhine]] loses his champion title to [[Max Euwe]].
*[[1937]] - A record for simultaneous blindfold play against 34 opponents.
I'd advise to discuss things first and work on some work schedule.
*[[1949]] - [[Claude Shannon]] speculates on how computers might play chess.
*[[1950]] - Candidates tournaments start.
Best regards,
*[[1951]] - [[Chess World Junior Championship]] starts.
<br>[[User:Kpjas|Kpjas]] 17:29, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
*[[1952]] - [[Soviet Union]] begins their string of Olympiad victories in Helsinki.
*[[1977]] - [[Nona Gaprindashvili]] wins the men's tournament at [[Lone Pine]].
:Re: my commitment. I have been looking more closely on thyroid lately so this is one of my areas of interest. So are diabetes, asthma, hypertension and some of endocrinology. But please don't count on my doing a large field alone. I'd rather help out with something smaller or with polishing something that is already there (diabetes for example). [[User:Kpjas|Kpjas]] 20:39, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
*[[1996]] - [[Deep Blue]] beats [[Garry Kasparov|Kasparov]] in the first game won by a chess-playing computer against a reigning world champion under normal chess tournament conditions.
I have a Ph.D. in Pharmacology. I have taught medical school physiology, embryology, microbiology, and biochemistry. I have in the past done a bit of work on some Wikipedia medical articles, but I tend to spend more time on Wikipedia basic science articles. The [[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|WikiDoc]] project looks like a good idea. [[User:JWSchmidt|JWSchmidt]] 02:18, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the message on my talk page. I'm not a medical doctor (though I do have a bachelor's degree in physiology), but I'm definitely willing to help improve WP's coverage of medical topics. I'm especially fond of improving existing articles (e.g., [[adrenal gland]]) and I've also created some new ones (e.g., [[patent ductus arteriosus]]). --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 03:39, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
==A Wikipedia doctors group?==
Hi, glad to notice another doctor around. I was wondering if you might be interested in a more coordinated effort on the medical side of wikipedia. I'm getting jealous of all those nice blue boxes at the bottom of non-medical wikipedia articles :-). Do you know what happened to the "WikiProject Medicine"? [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] 10:08, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:Yes, there are a few of us. Users with medical backgrounds would be a nice list. Article, not. Is there a mechanism in wiki to allow seaches for users with certain backgrounds? A young anesthesiologist, Alan, I believe, was editing the medicine article, where I met him. I didn't hear about the Medicine project. Now that would be REAL work. Interesting idea, though. The wiki structure allows rapid editing of the text, with the inherent plusses and minuses of that. There are some nicely formatted articles out there. How come the non-medical superformatters are not applying such artisanry to the medical pieces? [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 14:05, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind reply. It appears you have also moved your name to the "doctors" list on [[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc]]! I'll be updating the WikiDoc page with some of the feedback I've been having. Would you mind directing any feedback at my [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|talk page]]? A kind General Practicioner from Poland ([[User:Kpjas]]) gave me some useful advice on determining the kind of readership Wikipedia medical articles should be aimed at. I'll try to write some sort of proposal. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] 19:27, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
PS The formatting is probably hard for someone who's got little medical background. A non-medic might put [[paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria]] under the [[urology]] header (it is one of the occasions gastroenterologists and hematologists have to cooperate: when a [[PNH]] patient develops [[Budd-Chiari syndrome]]). I'll see if I can trace Alan.
Oh, I agree completely. The PNH example is a good choice. I was thinking of formatting in the very low level of how to put in side bars. A few of the military articles have nice examples of that. What you are talking to is the need for a system of specialized sysops. Sort of what an editor would be rather than mechanical in nature as the sysops are presently. (No offense intended. Th system works well) I like how lay folk go in and edit, even in medical articles. Much improved readability. I like participating in a general encyclopedia. BTW, I have in mind redoing the Celiac article. A special interest of mine.
*I will copy this to your talk. Email for me is a good technique. sholland@napervillegi.com [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 20:55, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:Alan turned out to be Erich (see [[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|WikiDoc]] for more). [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 23:39, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hey, welcome to the project. I'm a former yeshiva bochur myself, though no longer dati. I am glad you will be breathing some life into the medical material. If you need any help, please let me know (I am not a doctor, but I can help you figure out some of the ropes and tricks around here). [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:05, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
==Wikiproject==
* How do I arrange for those nice "blue boxes" at the bottom of a collection of pages?
**Just create a page at [[MediaWiki:Medicine]] or whatever you want to call it. Then, you can use <nowiki>{{msg:medicine}}</nowiki> to insert it in a page. List any you create at [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki custom elements]].
* Are you aware of any medically grounded sysops around Wikipedia?
**I don't. None of those listed at [[Wikipedia:Wikipedians by fields of interest#Health science and Medicine]] appear to be. However, it isn't really relevant as being an admin is just a technical thing that lets you carry out jobs like deletion. It doesn't give you any editing rights, so there is no reason a Wikiproject needs a sysop.
* Might there be a case for one of us (not me!!!) achieving adminship for this effort?
**No, people aren't granted adminship on the basis of things like this. Anyone can apply to be an admin if they are a trusted member of the community. Involvement in a wikiproject is not a requirement of that.
[[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 01:14, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
Hi, yes, I'm an admin (and a hardcore Litvak). Angela just explained how to make the boxes on the bottom. If you tell me what you want, I will be happy to make one for you. Also, you should check out the Requested Articles. There are a few medical topics that people have been asking for. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:21, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hi. Check out this page. It will give you all the instructions for using MediaWiki. [[Wikipedia:MediaWiki namespace]]. If you are not sure, let me know. [[User:Danny|Danny]] 01:40, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Very nice! [[User:Danny|Danny]] 02:21, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
== Blue box for medical topics ==
(copied from [[User:Diberri|Diberri]]'s talk page)
I've introduced a "blue box" in [[medicine]]. Please comment; considering you're working on the "basic science" level, how about something similar in the health-related sciences (anatomy, physiology, etc.)? After I got some help from Danny and Angela (see talk page) it turned out to be hugely easy.
[[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 09:42, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:The blue box looks great, and covers medical topics as well as I can imagine. I just made a minor technical change to use &amp; instead of & in the [[wikitext]].
:It sounds like you're suggesting similar blue boxes for anatomy/physiology pages. If so, I think a nice approach might be to create one blue box per organ system; in each box, we'd have a list of major components (organs, glands, etc). So we might have <nowiki>{{msg:endocrine system}}</nowiki> (or somesuch), which would link to [[pituitary gland]], [[adrenal gland]], [[pancreas]], etc. Similarly for <nowiki>{{msg:urinary system}}</nowiki> and others. Let me know if I've got the right idea before I start adding the appropriate MediaWiki pages. --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 23:17, Apr 9, 2004 (UTC)
JFW, thanks for your kinds words on my talk page. Also, regarding which organs to place on the [[MediaWiki:Endocrine system]] blue box, I agree with you that simplicity is key: I'll remove those organs that aren't primarily known for their endocrine functions. Thanks for the suggestion! --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 23:41, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC)
I put blood under cardiovascular system because I think that categorizing under organ system rather than branch of medicine might make navigation easier, but maybe it could be put under both. [[User:Fuelbottle|Fuelbottle]] 15:04, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:Blood is historically part of hematology. While it may go under cardiovascular system, what about other diseases of the blood (ie: abnormal hemaglobins?) [[User:Ksheka|Ksheka]] 16:19, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
::I was thinking that there should be blue boxes that can be used to navigate all organ systems down to cellular level like [[MediaWiki:Blood]] and [[MediaWiki:endocrinepancreas]]. Blood diseases are already covered by [[MediaWiki:Hematology]], so maybe this should be added to the blood page too. [[User:Fuelbottle|Fuelbottle]] 02:44, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
You're right, Fuelbottle. The difference here is between [[physiology]] and diseases. Diberri and you have been doing some great work in making all those loose bits stick together. Wikipedia does not have a real hierarchical structure (e.g. [[Football]] is a sub-class of ball-centered team sports, itself a member of [[sports]]), and the "blue boxes" overcome this problem. I think I've covered most of the diseases in [[Hematology]] with the [[Mediawiki:Hematology]] box. I'm wondering whether [[gastroenterology]] or [[endocrinology]] is next... [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 10:35, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
JFW, thanks for those changes to the organ system boxes I've been working on. I believe the capitalized versions are more aesthetically pleasing. And why I excluded [[anus]] from [[MediaWiki:Digestive system]] is beyond me :-) --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 01:46, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
== A mass-redirect question ==
Hi. I've been working on a few medical pages, and the page for [[Heart attack]] really annoys me a bit. Maybe that's not the right word -- I would like to move the entire page over to [[Myocardial infarction]], and have "Heart attack" redirect over there. The problem is that there's '''a lot''' of pages that reference the page.
I feel that Myocardial infarction is much more professional for the wiki (and just about any other encyclopedia).
Is it okay to do the move? Do I need to get permission from someone? Does it need to be orchestrated in some way? Or should I just let sleeping dogs lie?
The last thing I want to do is break a hundred pages by doing this move...
[[User:Ksheka|Ksheka]] 16:27, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC)
:Heart attack is the common name for the problem. As a general interest reference this seems appropriate to Wikipedia. I understand what you mean, though. [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 17:16, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
This is, again, a question that boils down to the medical side of WikiPedia in general ([[User:Jfdwolff/WikiDoc|WikiDoc]] effort).<BR>
Some points:
* Personally I find it educational to be redirected
* Whenever a non-medical user types in "Heart attack" he will still see the relevant information.
* In the scientific fields, terminology is everything. "Heart attack" is imprecise, as it does not specify the nature of the insult, nor the exact ___location of the insult.
* Is every heart attack a myocardial infarction? Many patients who have suffered [[acute coronary syndrome]] have escaped with low or negative [[Troponin]] T, and have technically not had an MI, yet talk to everybody about their "heart attack".
* I've had the same discussion with another user on [[neutrophil granulocyte]], and the change also involved >30 redirects.
Please tell me if you need help with redirects. I'm personally in favour of moving the whole page to [[myocardial infarction]]. [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 18:42, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:Okay. I'll do the move this weekend. Any tips on redirection would be appreciated. I guess that the proper way to do it is to manually change all the links??? [[User:Ksheka|Ksheka]] 01:41, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Previous experience has taught me that - unless you're capable of writing a bot do to it - moving it manually is the best way. I'll see if I can find some time on Saturday night (after [[Shabbat]], when I'm dewikified) to help to perform the procedure. [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 11:11, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
PS: ''I've copied all this to the [[Talk:Heart attack|Heart attack talk page]] as well. JFW''
==Cgi-bin==
Hey, thanks for the heads-up on cgi-bin. Just a note--when something is [[Wikipedia:patent nonsense|patent nonsense]] like that, then it can be speedily deleted. If that's the case, you don't have to list it on vfd, just put <nowiki>{{msg:delete}}</nowiki>, and mark it on [[Wikipedia:Speedy deletions]]. Thanks again. Yours, [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 22:05, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Re:adminship, it couldn't hurt the project, and this place needs more admins anyway. Feel free to nominate Alex at [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship]], if you think he deserves it--has he been involved in any huge edit wars? He's been here long enough, and has enough edits, that I'm fairly confident he'd make it in. Actually, I had been thinking about nominating you--remind me in a month or so? God knows I'll forget otherwise. Anyway, if you know anyone who deserves it, feel free to nominate them. Good luck on the medical project. Yours, [[User:Meelar|Meelar]] 22:21, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
== LDH and Elastase ==
Hi JFW, I read your (vastly improved) rewrite of [[lactate dehydrogenase]], and give it my blessing :-) Your statements about exudates and transudates are absolutely true (although I'm not familiar with the spelling "exsudates" -- is this a British variant?). The article could still use some biochemical info on LDH, which I'll put on my to-do list. Cheers! --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 16:50, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
Your recent additions ([[elastase]], [[A1AT]], and [[A1AD]]) are great. I'm especially impressed by the rate at which you're adding these well-written entries. Compliments to you on your fine work! --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 21:10, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
I've made minor touch-ups to [[Heyde's syndrome]] mostly for readability. I also renamed the "Heyde's syndrome" section to "History" because I think the latter name better encapsulates the content of the text within. Also, I have an itch to move all the citations to a "References" section to further clarify the text. What do you think? --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 21:12, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
:By the way, congratulations on the beautiful [[User:Jfdwolff/Baby|baby girl]]! --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 21:34, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
Well done on the edits to [[Heyde's syndrome]]. I noticed that you changed the year it was characterized from 1953 to 1958. Which is correct?<br />
Those pretty pictures for [[lactate dehydrogenase]] (and [[fetal hemoglobin]], for that matter) were produced with a molecular visualization tool called [http://www.rasmol.org RasMol]. Just open your protein's [http://www.rcsb.org/pdb/ Protein Data Bank] (PDB) file in RasMol, select a color pattern (by atom, chain, group, etc.), and export it in your favorite graphic format. --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 23:39, Apr 19, 2004 (UTC)
==hepatitis==
Top banana, JFW. Glad you are around to assist; if I find any more casualties on my travels, I'll send 'em your way. Good luck with WikiDoc. --[[User:Tagishsimon|Tagishsimon]]
:btw, you might want to announce the WikiDoc project at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject]] with a new main heading for Medicine --[[User:Tagishsimon|Tagishsimon]]
==Leftover from Cleanup page (In vivo staining)==
I pulled this from the leftovers list at the cleanup page.
''[[In vivo staining]] - should move to pages needing expansion or to wikitionary.''<br>
I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject (I mainly deal with dead [[cell]]s or just [[molecule]]s). I first thought about integrating it into [[Microscopy]], but that doesn't really take into account the "in vivo" part. So I thought I'd pass it to a WikiDoc.
Can you please integrate this into another article?
--[[User:MacGyverMagic|MGM]] 20:27, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. Apparently [[Cybermedicine]] needs a cleaning as well. It was on the same list - [[User:MacGyverMagic|MGM]]
There actually several types of invo staining. The microscopic stuff can be done using confocal microscopy. Additionally, there are a number of dyes that change flourescence with changes of calcium ion or other ions. Then there is immunostaining and the classic obesrvations of capping and inedcytosis in immunology. Endoscopically, one does Chromoendoscopy to stain tissues during endoscopy, one of the advanced techniques of [[Endoscopy]]. Lastly, there is in vivo staining at surgery, where one is looking for bladder leaks during surgery. So the in vivo stuff is at several levels. It ought to have several articles, some stand alone, so as part of others, as in [[Endoscopy]]. [[User:Kd4ttc|Kd4ttc]] 20:46, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
:The article is too stubbly for words, an probably factually incorrect (I find it hard to merge the present contents with [[User:Kd4ttc|Steven's]] comments). To stain organelles, they generally need to be fixated etc. after [[biopsy]]. Perhaps a full rewrite would be in order.
:Re: [[cybermedicine]]. This is an esoteric subject, and most Wiki Doctors would probably prefer to work on subjects they're slightly familiar with. [[User:Jfdwolff|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]] | [[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 08:59, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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