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===Pre-orders===

In order toTo separate categories of different orders, we use pre-order categories. These are used to group similar higher order subcategories within their parent category. In general, ''Category:<N> <G> musicians'' is a sub category of ''Category:<N> musicians'', but so is ''Category:<N> &lt;I>ists'', which is true for all genres "G" and all instruments "I". Therefore, to keep them separate, we introduce two pre-second order sub-categories of ''<N> musicians'', which are: ''Category:<N> musicians by genre'' and ''Category:<N> musicians by instrument''. ''Category:<N> <G> musicians'' willis now be a sub category of the former, and ''Category:<N> &lt;I>ists'' will beis a subcategory of the latter, and neither will beis placed directly into ''Category:<N> musicians''. Similarly, pre-third order categories might be of the form ''Category:<N> &lt;I>ists by genre'' as a subcategory of ''Category:<N> &lt;I>ists'' and ''Category:<G> &lt;I>ists by nationality'' is a subcat of ''Category:<G> &lt;I>ists''.

Note that each first order category can have 2 pre-second order sub cats, but each second order category willhas only have 1one pre-third order sub cat, because the second-order category itself is only missing one piece of information.

Example:

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*****[[:Category:American classical pianists]] - third order

There are also three pre-first categories, which are subcategories of [[:Category:Musicians]] itself. These are simply [[:Category:Musicians by nationality]],[[:Category:Musicians by genre]], and [[:Category:Musicians by instrument]].

====Placing pre-order categories====

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==Placing articles in the structure==

Articles should be placed into as specific of a category as possible, always favor third-order over second, and second over first whenever the information is available. They should '''not''' be placed in a parent category and also one of it's sub categories, e.g., no placing an article in both ''Category:<N> <G>musicians'' and ''Category:<N> musicians'', it's redundant. And remember, you should only have to place each ''article'' into one category using this scheme because each third order category is a sub-cat of all the appropriate second order and first order categories, so if you put your article into ''Category:<N> <G> &lt;I>ists'', it will automatically fallfalls under ''Category:<N> <G> musicians'', ''Category:<N> &lt;I>ists'', and ''Category:<G> &lt;I>ists'', not to mention ''Category:<N> musicians'', ''Category:<G> musicians'' and ''Category:&lt;I>ists''.

==Other things that come up==

===Category overlap===

What about things like [[:Category:Heavy metal musicians]] and [[:Category:Rock musicians]]. Clearly Heavy metal musicians are a sub-set of Rock musicians, so [[:Category:Heavy metal musicians]] should be a sub-category of [[:Category:Rock musicians]]. That's fine, no problem, make it a sub cat of [[:Category:Rock musicians]] the same way you normally would. This also applies to [[:Category:Scottish musicians]], which is a sub cat of [[:Category:British musicians]] and [[:Category:Bass guitarists]], which is a sub category of [[:Category:Guitarists]]. The question is whether the sub categories should also be built into the structure. Generally, the answer can be yes, in addition to being a sub cat of [[:Category:American rock musicians]], [[:Category:American heavy metal musicians]] should also be a sub cat of [[:Category:American musicians by genre]] and [[:Category:Heavy metal musicians by nationality]]. The applicability of this is a matter of opinion, but generally, unless the over lap is very strong and very obvious (e.g., ''Category:Six string guitarists'' as a subset of ''Category:Guitarists''), the more-specific subcategory can be placed in the structure. Otherwise, you can simply leave it as a sub-category of the category already in the structure (''Category:Guitarists'' in the previous example).

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*Put hip hop performance poets in [[:Category:Slam poets]].

*Try to avoid putting things directly in [[:Category:Rappers]]-- opt for a more specific category of rapper(e.g [[:Category:French rappers]], [[:Category:Female rappers]], etc.).

*DJ'sDJs go in [[:Category:Hip hop DJs]]; producers are not categorised.

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