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== Diva (software) ==
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I have no strong feelings, but given that I provided a bit more information, you may want to re-evaluate [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diva (software)]]. Either way, take care! -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 03:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
= November 2 =
== wild cats? ==
== Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom AfD ==
lion biggest? fastest cheetah? smallest osolot?
I've commented there. Our existing [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history#Naming conventions|convention]] is to redirect to the relevant war/battle articles in cases where they exist, since operational codenames are usually poor article titles. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 01:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
not sure about smallest
:Part of the problem, of course, is that Enduring Freedom is technically still ongoing, so it's difficult to sum it up as the "War of Foo" or "Invasion of Bar". Thus, it gets its own article (for the time being, anyways). Iraqi Freedom, on the other hand, has concluded, so it's a bit easier to determine its scope. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 01:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
what about largest teeth and smallest?
:: Just a point...OIF is not over and is still ongoing. All US personnel deploying to Iraq still do so under Operation Iraqi Freedom. It is ongoing just like Enduring Freedom.--[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 11:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
--[[User:Thebirds07|Thebirds07]] 00:09, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Something for you... ==
:[[Liger]] biggest (usually [[tiger]] largest), [[wild cat]] smallest. See also [[Felidae]] and [[big cat]]. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 00:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::Actually a number of lesser known species are even smaller than the Wild cat. Including the [[Black-footed Cat]], [[Little Spotted Cat]], [[Kodkod]], [[Leopard Cat]]. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 00:25, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::I thought the [[Rusty-spotted cat]] was the smallest. The [[Andean cat]] is the absolute coolest. -[[User:THB|THB]] 02:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:WikiChevrons.png|right|thumb|For your extensive contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of the United States Marine Corps, and on the recommendation of [[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]], I hereby bestow upon you the ''[[WP:MILHIST|Military history WikiProject]] Distinguished Service Award''. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 23:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)]]
::::Very cool, thanks. Part cat, part squirrel? --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 16:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Mis-information on the Cars flim pages ==
==Dyess==
Thanks for bringing Dyess to our attention, that he's an Eagle Scout and MOH recipient. I've updated the four articles on the men this applies to accordingly. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 15:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
On the page about the Cars film http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cars_(film) Many of the cars are labled as being certain makes when there is no backing about this by Disney or Pixar. The characters that come to mind are Lightning McQueen, Boost, DJ, Snot Rod and Wingo. They have their own pages with misinformation about what their makes are. The cars that have official makes are listed in the credits and none of the ones listed there are in the credits of the film and books. The ones listed in the credits are: Dodge, Hudson Hornet, Volkswagen, Model T, Fiat, Mack, Mazda Miata, Kenworth, Chevrolet Impala, Porche, Jeep, Mercury, Plymouth Super Bird, Cadilla Coupe De Ville.
== Re: [[Robert Brooks (congressman)]] ==
There is no mention of a Ford GT, a Mitsubishi, A Nissan, a Toyota or anything else listed on those pages. I do not have an account so I did not edit myself. I still feel that it's wrong to edit pages. Things like this end up happening.
ther original Robert Brooks article was twofold, combining the football player and the congressman. I split the article into separate articles. Upon further research, Brooks is in fact a State Representative rather than a congressman, so I will probably request a deletion over him being non-notable. Thanks for pointing that out though. --[[User:Wizardman|Wizardman]] 23:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
*Actually, he is not even a state representative - rather a candidate. —[[User:ERcheck|ERcheck]] @ 23:59, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Snakey [[User:63.21.29.88|63.21.29.88]] 00:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Portal Bio ==
:There are references. Did you not see them? For instance saying that Lightning McQueen is "A hybrid between a stock car and a more curvaceous LeMans endurance racer (like Lolas and the Ford GT40)." That apparently came from Pixar in this article ""A grease geek will guide you: 'Cars' decoded" by Dan Neil, Los Angeles Times, June 4, 2006". That link no longer works but we can probably assume that that is a true quote. The link needs to be updated. So you are saying because you did not see it in the credits, it should not be in the article here? The articles here can draw on many sources. Show me a specific one that you dispute and I will help you figure out if it is legit or not. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 00:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Since you have the most vis on the USMC bios it might be better for you to update that portion of the Portal. Ira Hayes has been there awhile. If this is an issue let me know but with the amount of articles you have thrown together recently I figured you would have better vis on the good ones. --[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 11:17, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
::I found the article [http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060609/ENTERTAINMENT0301/606090306/1174/ENTERTAINMENTFRONT] and you may have a good point. There is no GT40 mention there but that can probably be forgiven as whoever put it in the article was trying to explain "curvaceous LeMans endurance racer". I will adjust that bit to show you how it should probably look. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 00:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
* Sorry for dropping the ball recently. I needed to take a break from the USMC articles. To much Hoorah in a 2 month period and just got burned out for a bit. I have been spending some time sorting stubs and doing touch-up work. I have a trip for work coming up in a week so I hope to reengage tomorrow or the next day on USMC articles and get some quality edits and finish up loose ends before I go away. I won't have access for the last 2 weeks of the month. I guess for that time the portal will be all you. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Take it easy--[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 10:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
:::Take a look at Lightning now. When a wikipedia editor adds his own ideas to an article, that is called "original research" (OR) and it is [[WP:NOR|not allowed]]. Mentioning the Lola and GT40 looks like original research as does the mention of the Buick Regal in a later one. Usually on a noncontroversial article like Cars, editors can get away with a lot of OR but if someone challenges them they have to source it or remove it. If you want to address it go ahead but be gentle. First try to find where that idea may have come from and supply the missing citation see [[WP:Cite]]. If you can't find one then just tag the fact asking for a citation; just type <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> after the bit you dispute. If no-one comes back with one in a few days, go ahead and remove the uncited part. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 01:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Thank you for the help. Would I add the fact dispute after each sentence? I could post a link to most of the pages I found. The Lightning reference of course would be one. Then the fact that they mention Boost is an Eclipse, Wingo is a Silvia (this is also sadly mentioned on the Nissan Silvia page not to mention the images are labled as such which would mislead people), DJ is a Scion, and Snot Rod is a Barracuda are wrong and has not backing from Disney. Should I also provide Disney/Pixar approved material such as scanning the pictures of the toys where the characters are merely described as "tuners". The toys that are based on real cars and the ones that Disney was approved to use have the manufactuer logos on the bottom of the boxes. I think the reason the villains in the movie were composites that look like parts of cars but not any real car is because the companies would not give Pixar the right to portray their products in a negative light. But some of the cars mentioned in this don't even look like the ones in the movie. Snakey [[User:63.21.41.23|63.21.41.23]] 04:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== James Webb disambiguation page ==
Remember to first try to verify it yourself. You should make a decent effort before tagging it. For example I tried to find a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for Snot Rod being a Barracuda. I searched google [http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22Snot+Rod%22+Barracuda&btnG=Search here]. There are 477 hits and I looked at the first 100 of them (you may want to look at more) and there was no reliable source. Remember, wikipedia and similar sites are NOT reliable sources. Nor are forums. A reliable source might be a newspaper or website of a reputable news firm. Here is an example of a reputable source; check it out, they mention the Buick Regal. [http://auto.indiatimes.com/quickies/msid-1867683.cms] Remember also, that the internet is only a small portion of the resources available so perhaps the source exists but we can't easily find it. That is why you ask first. Sources do NOT have to be available on the internet, they just need to be reliable and cited. It is also possible to state something in different ways that can make less than reliable information acceptable here. If a Pixar or Disney representative says Snot Rod is a Barracuda then it would be represented as a fact. If an auto columnist in a reliable source says he looks like a Barracuda, or is one, that would be presented as "Joe Blow, columnist for the Terrible Times, stated that . . ." or perhaps "Terrible Times: 'Snot Rod is a Barracuda'" in that chart. Finally, if there is a lot of fan buzz that he is a Barracuda, you might be able to say "Fans claim . . . " but that one can get dicey. And yes, you should put the tag once for each group of related facts that you dispute; once for each car perhaps but not once after each part of a statement about a specific car if you dispute it all. Just be clear about what you dispute. You should also open a topic on the article discussion page for people to talk about your ideas. And remember that although other editors may have more experience or be "better writers" (though you seem a competent writer), none are "more special" than others. We are all equal. And that one article is not "more important" than another when it comes to our desire to "get it right" so go ahead and fix Cars. Hope this helps. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 14:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages)]], disambiguation pages shouldn't contain any extraneous links (i.e. links that don't disambiguate the topic), and also they shouldn't have the disambiguation link piped. Also, "Entries should nearly always be sentence fragments. When the entry forms a complete sentence, do not include commas or periods at the end of the line." --[[User:Rogerd|rogerd]] 03:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
==License tagging for Image:MoH.jpg==
Thanks for uploading [[:Image:MoH.jpg]]. Wikipedia gets hundreds of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an [[Wikipedia:Image copyright tags|image tag]] applied to the [[Wikipedia:Image description page|image description page]] indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.
:This is precisely why I brought it up. There is no backing for these statments from an official Pixar or Disney person which is why it bothered me that some fan is trying to pass this off as fact. Some Pixar guy could come out of the blue and say they're all station wagons and then that would be the way it is. Coming from a scientific background I know that one should not make statements without having something to back them up. Seems to me this guy just wrote this stuff because he believes it. Another reason I didn't want to fix it myself is because he can come back at a later date and change everything back. What do you do when that happens? Snakey [[User:63.21.9.150|63.21.9.150]] 18:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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::If "Some Pixar guy could come out of the blue and say they're all station wagons" then that would have to stand if it is reported in a reliable source (he can't come here and claim to be a Pixar guy and change everything). It is not our job to judge the credibility of a spokesperson (unless that credibility question is also reported in a reliable source); that is the job of the reliable source, that is why they are called reliable and that is why unreliable sources like forums or newsgroups are not. But that is unlikely. What is more possible is that "Some anonymous wikipedia editor could come out of the blue and say they're all station wagons". That is easy to handle. You make a commitment to wikipedia. Open an account, it is free and anonymous, make your edits, and then add the page to your watchlist so you can keep an eye on it. That is the only solution. Eventually other editors will come to agree with you and help you protect the page. Just don't think that all that goes there is "official" statements. Anything that appears in a reliable source can go there provided it is not misrepresented. Think of wikipedia as a mirror that can only reflect information from reliable sources but cannot judge that information itself or add to it. Have fun. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 19:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
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:::Yes I know that, which is why I brough this up. I know it's not likely but what I'm saying is if a Pixar person did just show up (yes he'd have to prove who he was let's say he did) then my example stands that as rediculus as it sounds they would all officially be station wagons. We're on the same side here I'm not trying to argue. You yourself said you couldn't find any reliagable sources after going through 100 links for Snot Rod. This is why I mentioned this in the first place. What I'm proposing is putting up the information that IS official from Disney and Pixar. I have my own ideas about what the cars are but that doesn't make it so. My ideas aren't backed in the credits and neither is what is here. Many people believe anything they read. I questioned the information right away. It sounded fishy to me and after looking around just as you did came to the same conclusion that there's nothing to back this up. I have the official books, have a printed copy of the credits and the official descriptions of the toys all of which were given the Disney stamp of approval. Well, I may just make an account and change those parts as you recommend. Thanks for the help.
This is an automated notice by [[User:OrphanBot|OrphanBot]]. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at [[Wikipedia:Media copyright questions]]. 04:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::::Great! Go for it. My point is that if a Pixar guy showed up here he still could not do his "original research" here. He would have to have it published elsewhere first (Pixar's website would be fine but not his personal website). Doesn't matter if he is the president of Pixar. You don't write original material here. These far-fetched examples can get dicey but I am sure you get my point. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 20:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Oh one more thing. On the Delinquent's page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Delinquent_Road_Hazards there is no option at the top to edit the intro section where the makes of the four are mentioned. That part needs to be changed. Are there any admins that can fix things like this when this happens? And the citation needed links on the main page were removed already. Did you do this or is it our fan kid at work? Snakey [[User:63.21.12.253|63.21.12.253]] 19:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*Licensing tag -- {{tl|PD-USGov-Military-Award}} -- added. Image had just been uploaded at 03:51, April 22, 2006 (UTC) - was looking for correct tagging in tag list. —[[User:ERcheck|ERcheck]] @ 04:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
:Just hit "Edit this page" at the very top. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 20:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::Now welcome to the "real" wikipedia! Skywatcher68 seems to be invested in that article. What you don't want to do is butt heads with him. Open your account then start a topic on the talk page about your <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> templates. Work out with him how to best achieve what you want to achieve. He may well agree with you. You may also want to point at this discussion so others can see your logic and you don't have to repeat everything; copy and paste <nowiki>[[Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous#Mis-information on the Cars flim pages]]</nowiki> By the way, you put a fact template on the one that I already fixed. Good luck. '''From here on out please go to my talk page if you need help as this has gone beyond the scope of the reference desk. I am happy to continue to help you.''' --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 20:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==Sorry about deletion==
Sorry about deletion. There are not very many people who contribute to [[Smedley Butler]], when they do there changes are minor, and they never come back again. I have no problem with the medal of honor medal, just maybe putting it somewhere else in the infobox. What do you think? Sorry if I offended you--you can keep it in the same place, if you insist, but I suggest moving it somewhere else in the infobox.
== pink object? ==
I apologize if I offended you. Like I said, most people make one minor change to this wikipage, and move on. Since making major changes and adding extensive footnotes a few months ago, which was praised on the talk page, I simply just mindlessly monitor the page to make sure their is correct info, and no vandalism.[[User:Travb|Travb]] 00:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
size of horse head? --[[User:Thebirds07|Thebirds07]] 00:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:The picture itself looks better, but a tiy picture next to a larger picture simply looks terrible. Give me a second and let me see if I can tweak the box.[[User:Travb|Travb]] 01:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
a toy? --[[User:Thebirds07|Thebirds07]] 00:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:A Barbie dollhouse??? [[User:Wakuran|惑乱 分からん]] 00:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
whats the question ?
:An industrial size bucket of suitly emphazi? [[User:Hyenaste|Hyenaste]] <sup>[[User_talk:Hyenaste|(tell)]]</sup> 01:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::This should make you happy: [http://hometown.aol.com/rebeccaj1973/images/ssc%20strawberry%20shortcake%20on%20strawberry%201.jpg X]. -[[User:THB|THB]] 02:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Check out my unorthodox solution on [[Smedley Butler]], now if you can just program the infobox this way, (hopefully, if you like the change) we would all be happy. Visually setting a smaller picture next to a largerer picture looks bad.
*I think a pink horse head pretty much fits your requirements. - [[User:131.211.210.17|131.211.210.17]] 09:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
LOL... please suitly inform us as to the desired outcome of the placing of a fake horse head in your lover's bed. [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]] 18:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Even if the medal was the same size as [[Smedley Butler]] this would be the first info box I have ever seen which has two photos side by side, I think visually, it is much better to have your wonderful medal down in the medal's section, as per the new [[Smedley Butler]] page--what do you think?
== Where can I report Child Pornography sites? ==
:::I apprecaite you changing the color--the medal looks much better now, but my comment was not in regards to the actual image, but the '''___location''' of the image.[[User:Travb|Travb]] 01:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I found a site that is posting ACTUAL child pr0n, where can I report them? [[User:The velociraptor|The velociraptor]] 00:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::I like Hershel's better. But it is your call. I really don't care, and I obviously care less than you do. Far be it from me to stiffle your artistic flair ;-) .[[User:Travb|Travb]] 01:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:[http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=report+Child+Pornography+sites&btnG=Google+Search&meta= Google] can keep you happy for hours. --[[User:Tagishsimon|Tagishsimon]] [[User_talk:Tagishsimon|(talk)]]
== Re: Infobox conversion ==
::The you can report the site to [[National Center for Missing & Exploited Children]] [https://secure.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/CybertipServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US here]. [[User:Jon513|Jon513]] 14:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Great work on converting the infoboxes; I'm very grateful for your help. One minor request, if I may: if you're leaving notes about the conversion on the article talk pages anyway, could you perhps add {{tl|WPMILHIST}} and {{tl|WPMILHIST British military history task force}} there as well? [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 02:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: Just go right ahead and report it here, so that the rest of us can enjoy... err... become thoroughly enraged by it.
:Thanks! Don't substitute them, though; those templates don't change very frequently, but they ''do'' change. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 02:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
: This joke has been brought to you by. [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]] No child pornography sites have been visited by this user in the past 1... 2... 3 seconds. -- 17:20, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Robert G. Robinson ==
GREAT::Chris, article!we are Goodtalking job...hopeREAL tochild seeporn morehere, you know, like it5 soon.years old; I doubt that you would enjoy it. --[[User:Jmlk17Justanother|Jmlk17Justanother]] 0717:0325, 302 AprilNovember 2006 (UTC)
::: That's kind of the idea. -- [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]] 18:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Memorial High School disambig article ==
::::Well, while we might have a bizarre fascination with the face of the pure evil that man can bring himself to do (and eventually desensitize himself to), I would not call the gratification of that fascination, "enjoyment". Reminds me of the [[Eugene Armstrong|beheading videos]]; I kinda wanted to watch one but always seemed to "chicken out" before the actual deed. [[Mike the Headless Chicken]] being another matter entirely. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 18:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you added a "Memorial High School (Houston, Texas)" to that list.
== WWI .303 British vs 5.56 NATO ==
The problem is it is the exact same school as the "Memorial High School (Hedwig Village, Texas)" - You see, the school is not located in Houston but it has a Houston postal address. [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] 16:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Can someone compare the World War One [[.303 British]] round fired by the British Lee Enfield Rifles with the [[5.56 x 45 mm NATO|5.56mm NATO]] round fired by the US Standard Issue M4/M16? (In terms of accuracy, power, range, etc..) Thanks --[[User:Jamesino|Jamesino]] 01:52, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II ==
:We have articles on both of them. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 02:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Slightly painful lip zit ==
The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Outreach/Newsletter April 2006|April 2006 issue]] of the project newsletter is now out. You may read this issue or change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you by following the link. Thanks. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 18:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I have a tiny whitehead zit just on the corner of my lips. It's rather painful to touch, and a little jarring to see in the mirror. Should I leave it there if it's painful and wait for it to pass? Any suggestions? Just a minor annoyance, is all. [[User:70.50.103.86|70.50.103.86]] 03:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== User page ==
I:Try likeacne your quote from Einstein.meds? [[User:WallieThe velociraptor|WallieThe velociraptor]] 1804:0316, 32 MayNovember 2006 (UTC)
::Attack it gently after a long hot shower since it hurts. -[[User:THB|THB]] 04:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==New MOH category==
I'll start from the Z's if you want to start from the A's??--[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 04:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
* Sounds good to me. I put the first entry in as [[Dan Daly]]. Semper Fi! —[[User:ERcheck|ERcheck]] @ 04:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Wait for it to pass. Bacteria from a whitehead can travel deeper into the skin if it's disturbed, which can lead to more whiteheads. A little witch hazel (available for a pittance from a good pharmacy or for a king's ransom at good cosmetics counters) will "dry up" the whitehead faster, which makes it less prominent and less painful. '''[[User:Durova|<font color="blue">Durova</font>]]''' 05:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*Re: [[Robert Edward Femoyer]] Though I'm familiar with how you've set up your MOH cats, I want to point out that Femoyer was in the Army Air Corps, not the Army. It's always been my understanding (I used to hunt MOH imposters) that Air Corps MOH recipients fall under the Air Force, not the Army, for this purpose. Please advise. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 23:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
:A little [[hydrogen peroxide]] applied two or three times a day with a [[q-tip]] will work the same way as Durova's suggestion. [[User:Anchoress|Anchoress]] 07:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Whiteheads aren't caused by bacteria, they're caused by a buildup of glandular secretions ([[sebum]]). The pain is caused by the pressure. -[[User:THB|THB]] 09:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
**Sure, I'm just trying to help..
::They're not ''caused by'' bacteria, but they do contain some, and squeezing can sufficiently irritate the pore walls to allow the bacteria entree into the surrounding tissue, leading to a pimple. [[User:Anchoress|Anchoress]] 16:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
***https://www.airforcehistory.hq.af.mil/PopTopics/MOH.htm
***http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/valormoh.asp
***Note, some Army sites claim the AF ones as "Army" but also generally list them separately aside from the regular Army ones as "Air Service" for WWI, "Army Air Corps/Force" for WWII. So, there is some inter-service rivalry here. Now, if you're talking the USAF-specific design of the MOH that came out in 1960, then of course you're only talking Vietnam era recipients. When I had my MOH web site, I listed pre-1960 ones as Air Force category, not Army ones as, after all, they were aerial combat, not Army. FYI, I'm not AF, I was in the Navy, so I have no bone to pick here-;) [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 23:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
: It's irritating because your lip wants you do to something about it. The nagging discomfort is like a protest to the government (your brain). You can ignore the protestors, or you can appease them. A fingernail or two is the ideal tool in my vast experience. -- [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]] 17:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*To me, saying the USAAF was part of the Army is like saying the USMC is part of the Navy (it's not, it's part of the Dept. of the Navy). This situation is similar, yet we don't say Marines in WWI are credited with being Navy MOH recipients. A case can be made for either side, but I'd go with putting WWI/WWII USAAF/USAAC recipients in with the Air Force. It's up to you as you're working those categories. Just please let me know what you decide. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 01:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
==USMCBlue Portalheron help==
Someone has decided our portal deserves to be deleted. Could use your vote [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portal/Proposals#.5B.5BPortal:United_States_Marine_Corps.5D.5D.E2.80.94.5B.5BPortal:Military_of_Australia.5D.5D_.E2.86.92_.5B.5BPortal:Military.5D.5D here]. If there are others you know that can give us a vote please put the word out. --[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 11:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
*I voted to keep the USMC portal. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 11:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
How long does a [[blue heron]] stand on one leg before switching legs?
== Re: Question on task force templates ==
:Dang, I thought that was a really obscure answer to the zit question. I liked it better that way. --[[User:Justanother|Justanother]] 04:09, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Until it gets tired I suppose. See [http://durhamregion.typepad.com/questions/2006/08/index.html] for some info. --[[User:Light current|Light current]] 04:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Yep, that's right. Due to the way the main {{tl|WPMILHIST}} template automatically adds categories, it can't be used inside of a category page without causing problems; so we're using {{tl|catwikiproject}} there instead. Hope that helps! [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 23:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
I believe they can stand on one leg indefinitely. Unlike our legs, which must constantly use muscles while we are standing, to maintain balance, some birds seem to have a way to lock a leg into position so that the bones directly support their weight, in a stable manner, much like a tree trunk supports a tree without requiring any muscles. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] 05:40, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Discussion ___location ==
::That would seem to be correct. Budgerigars can certainly stand on one foot for 12 hours at a time whilst sleeping, so the answer will either be 'indefinitely' or 'for a very long time'. --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 07:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I think the main peer review page would be fine; I don't think I've ever seen peer review ''talk'' pages actually used. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lok]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Esperanza|<font color="green">s</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin/Military history|<font color="#960018">h</font>]][[User:Kirill Lokshin|in]] 01:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
:Having long toes of course also helps (if you don't want the wind to blow you over). [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 08:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==Re:Segarra==
: 214 out of 220 blue herons measured in your locale -- wherever that may be -- stand on one leg for 381.40 +/- 57.34 seconds before switching. Each heron was given a unique and distinctive 2 oz. leg tag as to prevent it from being timed more than once. Regrettably, the tags made them easy prey for mud sharks and eagles, and 112 out of the 220 were recorded as dead before the study had ended. But, at least your question as been answered with thoroughness and precision!
Thanks for writing. I will look into it and get back to you. I would like to know if he is only the first Hispanic Master Gunney within his MOS or the Corps. I asked Looper to wait a least a week before recommending it for deletion. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 00:54, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:This [[parody|spoof]] has been brought to you by [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]]. -- 17:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
* ERcheck, how are you? I may be wrong in my response but, this is what I posted in Frankie Segarra's talk page:
:::Standing on one leg gives them a high degree of protection from electricution caused by the high step potential which would result from a downed power line. Power system linemen and firemen are taught that several hundred volts of step potential can exist between the spots where the two feet are planted if they find themselves in proximity to a downed live power line or a persistent ground fault.[http://www.utilityinnovations.com/lineman-work-methods.html] They should stand on one foot and hop away from the vicinity of the electricity, or shuffle away keeping the feet close together. [http://www.bchydro.com/safety/work/work667.html] A bird standing on one foot would have be relatively safe in such an incident. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 18:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
''"I must admit that as author of the article, I made a mistake. Looper pointed out that there must have been a Hispanic Master Guns before Segarra and after further investigation I discovered that he is right. Before Segarra there was a Mexican National, Master Gunnery Sergeant Guadalupe Denogean, who served and was wounded in Iraq. Segarra however, was the first Puerto Rican Master Gunnery Sergeant. not only in his MOS but, in the Corps. I believe that the recommendation of the deletion of the article should be reconsidered. Segarra is notable to millions of Puerto Ricans (he's important enough to be featured in the local papers) and to the Hispanic community in Wikipedia. What I'm trying to point out is that Segarra's accomplishments within the Corps may well serve as a motivational factor to our young ones in the military, especially those of Hispanic heritage who may have access to the "Pedia" and who may not know that the United States had Hispanic military heroes. When I was in the Corps, I didn't even know that there once was a Marine Lt. General [[Pedro Del Valle]] (Whose article I wrote), had I known, I may have continued my career in the military. I therefore, believe that being the first Puerto Rican Master Gun and being featured in the press makes Segarra notable."''
What do you think? [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 03:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
::::In case it isn't obvious, I believe that last post was a spoof answer, as well. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] 20:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Jennygrl34 ==
[[Pascal's Wager|Pascal's waders]] can change legs with eyes closed. --[[User:Harvestman|<font color="blue"> DLL </font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Harvestman |<font color="green"> .. T</font>]]</sup> 22:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
damn yer fast... LOL - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] 01:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Most seems to be reverted, see [[Special:Contributions/Jennygrl34]]. The user currently tries to be nice after attacking me. Let's see how this ends. Thank you for fighting vandalism, [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] [[User_talk:Kusma|(討論)]] 01:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
== Gas barbeque (or braai) ==
==Thank you==
I have just bought a gas [[braai]] - that is what we call it here in South Africa - also known as [[barbeque]]. It has a gas cylinder attached to a device that allows a controllable open flame - like a gas stove I guess. The grill where the food goes is about 10 cm above the open flame. Question: is it safe to sprinkle water on the meat to keep the meat moist while cooking? Is there any danger if water falls on the open gas flame? Any danger when fat from a sausage falls on the flame? It throws quite a flame up when it does. Any other safety considerations I need to watch for? Thanks [[User:Sandman30s|Sandman30s]] 11:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for the imput. I posted most of your rewording in the article because I couldn't have done it better. I also included a quote by Segarra. I don't know maybe he isn't notable enough but, I still think that he maybe a source of inspiration to others. On the edit summary I credited you with the idea of rewording it. You're an O.K. guy and it's a pleasure to interact with you. Semper Fi [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 05:30, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
:Here is a link for safety. [http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/bbq.php]. We, in North America, have been blowing ourselves up for decades with these things. Number one thing is lighting it. Don't let the gas build up, or light with the lid down. Lost a few eyebrow hairs that way.... --[[User:Zeizmic|Zeizmic]] 13:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, watch out for Carbon Monoxide buildup, too. [[User:The velociraptor|The velociraptor]] 14:19, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::Gas "barbecues" often use a layer of volcanic rock or ceramic briquettes to allow the slow indirect cooking required for barbequeing. (It also helps keeps the grease and water out of the burner) Gas grills (for [[grilling]]) don't have these and are like a gas stove. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 15:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::Hmm? Mine sure does. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|∇∆∇∆]]</small></sup> 16:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::::There are rocks in your grill? You got some funky cooker there. [[User:Philc_0780|<font color="Green">Philc</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:Philc_0780|T]]</sub><sup>[[User:Philc 0780/Esperanza|E]]</sup><sub>[[Special:contributions/Philc_0780|C]]</sub><sup>[[User:Philc_0780/Improve me|I]]</sup> 18:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::Not at all! Look at our [[gas grill parts]] article, especially the section "Rock Grates". Or, for that matter, any website selling grills; Weber doesn't use ceramic or stone, but quite a few manufacturers do. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|∇∆∇∆]]</small></sup> 18:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:There is absolutely no danger whatsoever in ''sprinkling'' water over your sausages. In fact it sounds like a most excellent idea. ''Pouring'' water, of course, would be highly inadvisable. -- [[User:Cjwright79|Chris]] 17:02, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
(P.S. If you want to reword it furter, please do.)
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Thanks people for all the tips. Still a little confused about my new grill. My old one had the volcanic rocks as described and I used to turn on the gas and light it manually. The new one has an open flame that lights with a simple click (spark?) of the switch after turning on the gas. The people I bought it from claim that most new gas braais are like this. The [[grilling]] article does not really state that there is a different type of foodstuff that should be braaied over an open flame as opposed to rocks or briquettes. I also have a gas cylinder device that lights around the rim and cooks food on a detachable enamelled iron surface, but this is certainly no grill. Kadak have been making these things for decades here as well. Now there is competition locally between Jetmaster and Kadak. Also concerned about where I should store it. Hear horror stories about them blowing up and burning houses down. Should also not store it in direct sunlight or rain. Seems an awfully dangerous thing to have around for what it does. [[User:Sandman30s|Sandman30s]] 19:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==Marine Barnstar==
:[[Barbecue]], [[grilling]] and [[Regional variations of barbecue]] discuss different usages of terms. Where I am from ''barbequing'' takes hours over low, indirect and smoky heat will grilling takes minutes over direct flame or high heat. Quite a different final result. And millions of LP tanks are simply stored outdoors - they are rarely a problem. (Unless you shoot at them or hit the valve with a hammer, sort of thing.) Keep it out of the weather and it will last longer. [[User:Rmhermen|Rmhermen]] 20:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::The danger is greater with young children. Always keep an eye on the bbq and one on the child. --[[User:Harvestman|<font color="blue"> DLL </font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Harvestman |<font color="green"> .. T</font>]]</sup> 22:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
[[Image:Barnstar-rotating.gif|frame|right|[[Image:USMC_flag.png|50px|center]]This '''Marine''' Tireless Contributor Barnstar is presented to '''ERcheck''' for his continous work on [[USMC]] related articles. Presented by [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 02:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)]]
ERcheck, please accept this "Marine" Barnstar in recognition of your tireless dedication to Marine Corps related articles. You are truly one of the few. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]]-
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== [[Michael10:10 Hagee]]clock setting ==
Why are new clocks displayed in jewelry stores set to the time 10:10.{{unsigned|12.29.79.146}}
Quite welcome. [[User:Tbjablin|Tbjablin]] 01:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:This has been asked before. The main reasons seem to be that (a) it is symmetrically pleasing to the eye and (b) it allows the name of the clockmaker to be clearly displayed. --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 13:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==A thanks==
::And what do you know, we have an article on it: [[10:08]]. Mention of which enables me to ask a question of my own. Why are times of less than ten minutes past the hour always written with a leading zero, e.g. 10:08, 5:05. That zero serves no purpose. The number after the colon (or decimal point, sometimes) is just the number of minutes past the hour. So these times should be written 10:8, 5:5 and so on. --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 13:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
ERcheck, thanks for the welcome! [[User:Raizer|Raizer]] 05:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
:::I can only think it is a typographical convention. I think railway timetables will be some of the oldest things to have had need to write lists of times. (Docuemnt before that, I hazard, would tend more to the "ten past two of the clock" text strings. It would be interesting to find some pre-1800 stage-coach timetables, though.) Reaching back to 1881, we see the convention observed by the [http://cprr.org/Museum/Ephemera/CP-UP_Timetable_1881/index.html Central Pacific Railroad], for instance. --[[User:Tagishsimon|Tagishsimon]] [[User_talk:Tagishsimon|(talk)]]
== Re: Question on process for restoring blanked material ==
::::When I was a kid I remember the [[Radio Times]] (which I studied religiously) used to write 5.5 for 5.05, but I've never seen it written that way anywhere else. --[[User:Richardrj|Richardrj]] [[User talk:Richardrj|<sup>talk </sup>]][[Special:Emailuser/Richardrj|<sup>email</sup>]] 14:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Easiest way (assuming that the other material isn't valuable) would be to simply rewrite the article to be about the band. If the other material ''is'' valuable and going to be retained, then you can just create [[Fashionista (band)]] with an edit summary like "Split out material from [[Fashionista]]" and copy the material from the history into it. Hope that helps! [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 12:42, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
::: It's natural law, actually. [[ISO 8601|ISO 8601]], to be specific. —[[User:Bromskloss|Bromskloss]] 16:03, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==[[George Thomas Coker|Coker]]==
We recently crossed on the MOH and portal issues. I saw your edits to Coker's article. I personally know him as we're both involved in Scouts in Virginia Beach. I am the one who nominated him for the DESA and also presented it to him last year. He's a great man and very humble and quiet about his wartime experiences. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 01:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
::::My guess for the leading "0" is to avoid confusion. That way you know the printer hasn't dropped a digit in error, 10:3 could be 10:03 or 10:30. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 16:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi: Let's use your page for this thread (I have a watch on it), that way we're not jumping back and forth. Yes, I think your additions are positive. I drafted the Coker article and put it up for DYK, which it made. I just moved the photo on top of the info box and the portal tag to the bottom. The portal tag should be on the bottom. The question is: does it look better with the photo or box on top. Let me know what you think. I'll ask George about a military photo and permission to use it. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 10:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::It's also useful for aligning times in a table so hours, minutes, and seconds line up, and for sorting them electronically. Overall, the leading zero is a very good idea. [[User:StuRat|StuRat]] 20:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
*George says this is okay. I should get this done by Fri, maybe even today, Wed. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 14:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::And as I've come to expect on Wikipedia these days, there is an article already at [[leading zero]]! -- [[User:Chuq|Chuq]] 00:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
**I've put up George's photo, taken just after his POW release. I played around with photo and info box layout. When I had the box near the top, it leaves a big blank spot on the left, so I moved it to the military section. Feel free to test alternate layouts from the way I left it. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 01:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
== peak district ==
::* This makes a nice addition. From the point of view of Wikipedia notabiity, his military service and heroic action are most notable. With that in mind, my first thought is that the military info box should be on top (see [[John Ripley (USMC)]] for example). The other photos would then go in the corresponding sections of the article. See my example in my [[User:ERcheck/Sandbox2|sandbox]]. What do you think?
how can I get to the [[Peak District]] from London is there a train ? {{unsigned|128.174.159.34}}
::Completing the photos — (1) it would be nice to have an "official" photo, perhaps taken early in his Navy career to go in the military infobox image section; and (2) perhaps one with his Navy Cross (to go alongside the citation). If he has a single photo with the Navy cross, it could go in the infobox.
:Did you read [[Peak District#Transport]]? [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]] [[User_talk:CambridgeBayWeather|(Talk)]] 16:14, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::There is a sensitivity to his privacy, so I wouldn't want to ask for / add anything that Commander Coker would feel intrusive on his privacy.
::—[[User:ERcheck|ERcheck]] @ 01:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
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::Of course you could get to Buxton by changing trains at Stockport, rather than going all the way into Manchester. I'm not sure if the Manchester-Sheffield trains aren't also routed through Stockport. -- [[User:Arwel_Parry|Arwel]] ([[User talk:Arwel_Parry|talk]]) 22:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Everyone here in Scouts that know of George and his war experiences is in awe of him. But, he's so humble and quiet about it, most don't know it. He rarely talks about the war. I once asked him if he thought some of our guys were kept there and he said some say yes, and some no; he didn't want to say one way or the other. Now, it is a proven fact the Soviets kept some of our guys after WWII and Korea. My guess a least a few were kept after Vietnam. George is quite a guy. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 02:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:::yea there's nothing at all in the transport section about getting to the district from lonodn! thanks for the suggestions.
== frost wire not working ==
:: I am honored to learn of him. I don't want to overstep here, but, I expanded the introduction to include dates and ___location of his capture/captivity; and that he continued to serve in the Navy after his release. —[[User:ERcheck|ERcheck]] @ 02:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
my frost wire is not working i log in and it never gets past starting connection. i have already tried your ideas on trying to work aroung the fire wall nothing has worked. please help not sure what to do?
:::Thanks. We work well together, I don't mind you adding to the article. The article is much nicer now due to our combined efforts. [[User:Rlevse|Rlevse]] 10:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
:If this is a computing question, you might fare better at the [[WP:RD/C|computing desk]].--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]] 18:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - May 2006 ==
== Why are dogs traditionally walked to the owner's left ==
In almost all dog training books, and all dog training television programmes, the dog is walked to the left of the owner. Is there a technical reason for this? If not technical, is there some other viable reason?
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:So you can enforce short lead working with the right (stronger in most people) hand'''?'''--[[User:Light current|Light current]] 18:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
==Chat==
::no original research please, light current.
:No honestly, Ive seen it on TV ([[Dog Borstal]]) where you pull on a short lead to direct the dogs attention from something (like other dogs or toys or peoples legs) Anyway didnt you see the '''?''' 8-)--[[User:Light current|Light current]] 23:46, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the message. I checked out the article and sounds, great! This weekend is a time to think about and remember all the heroes that have given their lives for our great country and for what we stand for. May the lord bless you and your loved ones always. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 00:50, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
== leadership /governance ==
(P.S. I'm down with the flu, so could you do me a favor and sign me up for the "newsletter"? I would like to receive it. Thanks.)
I have heard a new term being used in regards to Board Governance
*Thanks for the prayers. I think that a link will be O.K. Semper Fi [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 02:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
(how Boards of Directors govern/lead agencies/corporations)
the term is : '''Generative Governance'''.
I am searching for authors/articles etc. to assist me in understanding this concept.
Thank you for your assistance!
Dianne
--[[User:Dianne belliveau|Dianne belliveau]] 21:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
== Chat (2)Bass ==
Who is the greatest and most influential electric bassist in rock music history?
Wow. I'd hardly edited the Shinseki piece, and there you go and clean it all up so shipshape, right off the bat.
*Well, some would say [[Carol Kaye]]; but more would say [[James Jamerson]] (unless you've got a limited definition for "rock".) --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|∇∆∇∆]]</small></sup> 00:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:This unsigned question is invalid. There is no objective standard by which the "greatest ''anything''" may be named. (Largest, yes; greatest, no.) The best that can be done is to have folk name those who are, in ''their'' opinion, great and influential. Also, BTW, "great" and "influential" are by no means synonymous. [[User:B00P|B00P]] 00:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
That was my first edit ever on Wikipedia, and while I did put some time into it, you've spurred me on to tackle the next one harder yet, to try to get the polished, professional look you've given [[Eric Shinseki]]
:There's no agreed-upon answer to that; many people have made contributions to the use of the bass guitar in rock, and trying to weigh them up is an impossibl task. See our [[electric bass]] article which mentions some bassists whose styles have been highly influential.
Thanks for the effort and education, and have a great weekend.
:It also depends on how you phrase the question. [[Paul McCartney]] is an enormously influential artist, and an influential bassist, but his contribution to the art of the bass guitar is arguably secondary to his achievements as a songwriter and arranger (particularly in the collective efforts of he, the other Beatles, and George Martin). --[[User:Robert Merkel|Robert Merkel]] 00:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[[User:Dgf77|Dgf77]] 16:40, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
:This question has no factual answer and therefore cannot be answered. I propose it is deleted along with the existing responses.
== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Collaboration|Military history Collaboration of the Fortnight]] ==
--[[User:Light current|Light current]] 00:39, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
= November 3 =
You supported '''[[Battle of Wake Island]]''', which has been selected as the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history|Military history WikiProject]]'s new Collaboration of the Fortnight. Please help improve this article to [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article standards]]. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 02:38, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
== TI-89 Titanium help ==
==Thank you==
My TI89 tit. has a piece of metal in the groove on one side only, and it appears like it is attached, and not just a stray piece of metal. Should I return it and get a new one?
Thank you for the portal update, it is great. I'm feeling much better now, thank you. To tell you the truth, I got the idea of posting the Corps hymn from you. Here, I want to share this with you, the person who I am glad to have befriended:
== More bass ==
[[Image:Tony the Marine 1969.jpg|250px|thumb|'''Photo of "The Marine" signed by [[Tom Seaver]]''']]
#When I met Hall of Fame pitcher [[Tom Seaver]], we hit it off since he is a former Marine. He signed everything I had including a 30+ year old picture of me in my Marine uniform holding a copy of the Daily News declaring the N.Y. Mets World Champs. He even wrote his serial number.
Just something I've always wondered. If a person can play the [[bass guitar]], does that mean that they could also play the [[double bass]] without much extra effort? --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 01:06, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Semper Fi [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 00:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Australian outreach''M*A*S*H'' ==
On the television series (maybe the movie too, I haven't seen it in a while) ''M*A*S*H'', the door to The Swamp has a symbol on it. It looks like a trident that is pointed down and it is roughly 2 1/2 - 3' in height. There is no handle, just the tines. The outer tines are somewhat curved and would make a rough oval shape if they were to connect and they also have a number of triangular "teeth" on the outer edges of the tines. The middle tine has something that resembles a split on the end of it so it's a bit forked. I can't find a picture of it on the net right now. Does anyone know what this symbol meant or why it would be on the door to the tent? [[User:Dismas|Dismas]]|[[User talk:Dismas|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 01:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Point taken. (Quite honestly, though, after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_ADF&diff=54290521&oldid=54280441 this response], I wasn't hoping for much.) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 03:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
:[http://experts.about.com/q/MASH-1380/door-swamp-2.htm This page] says it is a North African symbol meant to ward off the evil eye. Someone talks about a variation of the symbol [http://www.jenman.com.au/NewsQuestions1.php?id=16 here], and gives a little more background. --[[User:Cam|Cam]] 02:04, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
::There's a picture of a Maugham symbol on [http://www.tedjoneswriter.co.uk/maughamandvilla.html this page]. --[[User:Cam|Cam]] 02:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
== Full H ==
:Meh. I'm not really concerned about collaboration so much as simply convincing them to stop breaking existing things (like template conventions) ;-)
:As far as the creator issue is concerened, I don't think it's really significant at this point, since the entire ADF project has only a handful of members. If we can get even a small task force going that will actually edit Australian articles, we can ensure a minimal level of adherence to general guidelines with little fuss, even if the creator doesn't particularly like us for it. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 03:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
sum guy sed to me "yo mom giv full h, yo!" what does full h mean.
::True. Hopefully he'll be interested. (I think he's on wikibreak until June 5, though; I have no idea how big of a mess we'll have on our hands by then.) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 03:35, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
also my ant say dat my uncle is cunilingual. i no dat bilingual is 2 languages, but how many is cunilingual
:Nope, looks like I was right to begin with. Justinbrett's deeply insightful analysis of the other countries' articles reveals that [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Military_history&diff=56307965&oldid=56305767 "I have no desire for ours to look like either of them"]. This is going to be a ''big'' mess. ;-) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 13:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
: H=head perhaps? A slang for fellatio. [[User:Jamesino|Jamesino]] 02:15, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
== A riddle I forgot ==
::Probably best to wait and see if your effort bears fruit before drawing too many lines in the sand; but fundamentally, I see no reason why we should (willingly) cede articles to a project that's not interested in a cordial relationship. Our ability to stamp down on their disregard for conventions in practice will probably be limited by the number of editors working on Australian topics we have access to; but I think we should maintain both (1) our claim that Australian topics fall within our scope and (2) our insistence that they follow the same guidelines every other country does, even if these points are largely a theoretical issue for the time being. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 08:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
I remember that there is this famous riddle that I think Wikipedia has a page on, but I forgot the riddle. I think it's unsolvable or something unless u attack the syntax of the question. Anyone know what the riddle is? [[User:Jamesino|Jamesino]] 02:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:Ah, excellent. If he could perhaps find another person or two who'd be interested in working in a task force (somehow I don't think recruiting the ADF project members will be too productive), I can set one up. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 13:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Excellent! I shall await him with baited breath ;-)
Thank you very much for all the work you've done on this! [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 03:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
== Re: Question about categories for military awards ==
To the best of my knowledge, the issue hasn't come up before; anything that has to do with categorizing people is currently a mess (as you might have noticed), which explains why these particular categories seem inconsistent. Feel free to bring it up for discussion. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill Lokshin]] 23:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
==Re:Help Request==
Image rename and replacement, done! Glad to help a friend anytime. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 21:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
*I forgot to answer your question. No, there isn't an official procedurem, you don't have to be an admin (note: I'm seriously considering you for nomination). What you have to do is upload the image (or "new" version) again with the proper name. Then you go to the article, delete the old version and replace it with the new version. Finally, you go back to the "old" image and proceed to delete it and explain your reasons for doing so. "Ex: deleteing this version and replacing with a new version". Semper Fi [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 00:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
**It seems as if the delete button is an admin tool. If you need that I delete an image, let me know. If you are interested in becoming an admin, let me know also because I would consider it an honor to be your "Godfather" (nominator) and I believe that you have what it takes to be an excellent admin. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 00:53, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
As far as edit counts go, you are overqualified. Your dedication and people manners are what have impressed me the most. Tell you what, I'll give you until June 4 (smile) to do some janitoral tasks (vandal fighting, PC patrols) and then I will put you up for promotion (don't let anyone else get ahead of me, I'm going to be your "Godfather). Sounds good? Semper FI [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 01:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
==Thanks==
Thanks for the help with [[Military history of the United States during World War II]], it needs to get finished badly. [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 00:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah I guess it does make more sense for them to be listed as "References." I've just gotten into the habit of using "External links." Everything that is listed under "External links" was used as a source, so it can be changed to "References" no problem. [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 01:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
::Looks better already. One question: Would it be better to go straight into "Market Garden" right after "Overlord," or were there any major actions that deserve another section before "Market Garden"? I can't really think of much. [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 01:38, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
:::I don't think I've ever been called an expert before. Thanks! Thanks again for your help. [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 01:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
==Check this out==
These are the three standard questions asked to all nominees (Voters may also add a question of their own)
'''Questions for the candidate'''
Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity. Please take the time to answer a few generic questions to provide guidance for voters:
:'''1.''' What sysop chores, if any, would you anticipate helping with? Please check out [[:Category:Wikipedia backlog]], and read the page about [[Wikipedia:administrators|administrators]] and the [[Wikipedia:administrators' reading list|administrators' reading list]].
:'''2.''' Of your articles or contributions to Wikipedia, are there any about which you are particularly pleased, and why?
:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or do you feel other users have caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
Check these out: [[Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list|Administrators' reading list]], [[Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide|Administrators' how-to guide]] and [[Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship|Guide to requests for adminship]]. [[User:Marine 69-71|Tony the Marine]] 02:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
==Re:Recapture of the Philippines==
I agree. I like it the way you've done it. The articles on the individual battles are more detailed than the article about the Philippines Campaign, so it works better that way. [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 00:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
:I was wondering if it would look pretty cool to have the order of battle underneath some of the battle sections in the [[Military history of the United States during World War II]] article. It would look like this;
{{see also|Operation Market Garden order of battle}}
:Is there a guideline for this? [[User:Rmt2m|Rmt2m]] 01:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
==Re:Vandalism of [[girl]]==
...it appears to be related to some nutty [[All in the Family]] characters... [[User:205.188.116.135|205.188.116.135]] 05:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
==DYK==
It's not nearly that complicated. The only thing to keep in mind is to keep the nomination short, simple, and interesting enough to pull in readers. I usually change the nominations before putting them on the main page, if they can be improved futher. — <small>[[User:Brian0918|<b><font color=black>BRIAN</font></b>]][[User_talk:Brian0918|<font color=gray>0918</font>]] • 2006-06-07 00:41</small>
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== May get blocked ==
If I am not around it is most likely because I was blocked. Someone who has it in for me came and picked a fight at [[1st Battalion 4th Marines]] with the sole purpose of pushing my buttons and getting me blocked. I have violated the 3RR, all in good faith, but to no avail. Read the talk page for the drama. It is stuff like this that has me seriously considering just leaving this site all together and taking up a more fruitful hobby. You know where to get hold of me.==[[User:Looper5920|Looper5920]] 06:16, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
== RE:Military of Australia and Military history WikiProject ==
Hi, sorry about taking so long to reply i have been on holiday. Just started reading into the discussion over the state of Australian Military on Wikipedia, i'm still taking it all in. I too would like to see an Australian Military task force and it would be helpful in organising the articles, stubs and everything else. I was surprised by some of the negative tone towards the idea. I dont know if i am the right person to start the task force but if nobody else will i guess i'll put it on my to do list. I'm just abut to start expanding Aussie WW1 generals, once i've done that i might have a look at it. Regards [[User:Hossen27|Hossens27]] 09:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
*I Might try have a go at it in the next few weeks. On Monday i'm having knee surgery so ill be out for about a few days. But I cant go to work for 3 or 4 weeks so plenty of time for wikipedia. [[User:Hossen27|Hossens27]] 00:23, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
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