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===[[:Convert's Cognitive Development Framework]]===

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The result was '''no consensus'''. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 21:51, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

===[[:Convert's Cognitive Development Framework]]===

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I have gathered a few edits that speak to the notoriety of Dr. Baker and his theories. I hope to have them posted in the next 48 hours.

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Significant changes have been made to the opening of the article to show it's notoriety as it has been sought out by many international organizations such as the United Nstions. If I may also add, one of the theory's that I've found very helpful in my studies is securitization theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securitization_(international_relations). However, I am still looking for the notoriety info on that posting. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ddstellito|Ddstellito]] ([[User talk:Ddstellito#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ddstellito|contribs]]) 04:39, 12 November 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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*'''Weak Delete or Userfy''' The article is a mess and while I have found some discussion of this, I don't think it's enough. Oddly however, I think it is possible that man behind this theory may be notable. He is a frequently cited and published expert on the subject of Islamic terrorism. I was somewhat surprised that we don't have an article on him. If we did I'd probably support a redirect from this title to [[Abdul Haqq Baker]]. (hint hint) -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 02:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

*'''Userfy''' (or '''draftify'''), with a strong recommendation that this be converted into a draft biography of [[Abdul Haqq Baker]], with the framework as a subsection of that biography. The biographical subject is reasonably well-covered: [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11427391/Child-sex-scandal-council-hires-mentors-linked-to-hard-liners.html][https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-13686586][https://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/9121313/How-taxpayers-are-still-funding-the-extremists.html][https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/08/201181210928899563.html] [[User:BD2412|<span style="background:gold">'''''bd2412'''''</span>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 14:13, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

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:: There's OR in assuming that the cognitive model was implemented/used on a given project just because RS say that Dr. Baker was employed on said project without mentioning the cognitive model in their coverage. _signed,[[User:Rosguill|'''''Rosguill''''']] ^{[[User talk:Rosguill|''talk'']]} 18:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. The study is as relevant as Dr. Abdul Haqq Baker, who can very well have his own article, as he would qualify per WP:ACADEMIC. HoweverWith the[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Convert%27s_Cognitive_Development_Framework&type=revision&diff=870932085&oldid=870870174 articlethis needsedit] cleanupI forcleaned up the credentialsparts ofthat talk exclusively about Dr. Abdul Haqq Baker, which are not very relevant, andfor theythe takearticle and tooshould muchbe spaceused in thehis potential article. I also added a lead to summarize the content. Last, perhaps the move from ''Convert's Cognitive Development Framework'' to ''Muslim Convert Cognitive Development Framework'' would be more descriptive, but this is another matter. --[[User:1l2l3k|1l2l3k]] ([[User talk:1l2l3k|talk]]) 14:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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