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==== Category:American labor unionists ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''Rename'''. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|Talk]]) 11:14, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:American labor unionists]] to [[:Category:American trade unionists]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Standardization with other similar categories. Moreover, the description of the category and the Wikimedia Commons entry both use trade unionist. [[User:Namiba|TM]] 23:09, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Adding {{cl|American labor unionists by state}} and the accompanying sub-categories to this proposal as well.--[[User:Namiba|TM]] 00:01, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' My anecdotal experience is that "labor unionist" is more common than "trade unionist" in the U.S. I was going to search both on Google and see what got more hits but Google has quit displaying that for some reason. [https://searchengineland.com/google-tries-dropping-estimate-number-results-search-results-253405]. [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 14:25, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Picture books by Sheila Hamanaka ====
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==== Category:Chemical education ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''Merge'''. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|Talk]]) 11:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Chemical education]] to [[:Category:Chemistry education]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' The current category description reads "This category covers topics related to the teaching of chemistry" and it's a subcategory of [[:Category:Chemistry]]. [[User:Themightyquill|Themightyquill]] ([[User talk:Themightyquill|talk]]) 16:55, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. --[[User:Bduke|Bduke]] ([[User talk:Bduke|talk]]) 03:14, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 16:11, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Albums arranged by John Fogerty ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''Delete'''. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|Talk]]) 11:12, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Albums arranged by John Fogerty}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Not a defining aspect of the albums in this category. Most of the albums don't even mention anything about arrangements, only listed in a personnel section, and there aren't categories for each role someone plays in the production of an album. The entire scheme for [[:Category:Albums by arranger]] may be in need of review. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 04:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Because I haven't looked at every other one. I said it should be reviewed - maybe all of them should be deleted or maybe just a few; in the meantime, I came across this one, felt it should be deleted and decided to nominate it. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 06:53, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. Perhaps if this is deleted it'll encourage one of the editors who specialise in multi-category CFDs to do a CFD for other similar categories. <b>[[User:DexDor|DexDor]]</b><sup> [[User talk:DexDor|(talk)]]</sup> 21:00, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete.''' Two points. Firstly taking this particular category, it's just another list of 'John Fogerty albums' it's not particularly useful or informative. For all we know Fogerty might have employed an arranger to write out arrangements, or the band just jammed until they (or Fogerty) was happy with the result. It is also possible Fogerty worked all the parts out and hummed them to the band (as per Rafferty's Baker Street), but without the evidence this particular category should be deleted.
 
:Second Point, With regard to the tree, many of the categories relate to people who were arrangers, '''not''' songwriters, not performers and not producers, back in the day when arrangers meant something different and special (even if their pay was lower!). I mention this, because I most certainly don't think the tree should be deleted, but like this particular category, some sub-cats might need pruning back. --[[User:Richhoncho|Richhoncho]] ([[User talk:Richhoncho|talk]]) 17:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
::On further investigation, I note that in some cases, 'Albums arranged by XXX' has been extended to mean 'Albums containing a song arranged by XXX' which does suggest many of the categories would be better served with an list, 'Recordings arranged by XXX'--[[User:Richhoncho|Richhoncho]] ([[User talk:Richhoncho|talk]]) 19:12, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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