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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. — [[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] <small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 23:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Tragedy anime and manga}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' This one has been back for a while, but like the newly created [[:Category:Tragedy video games]], there's no parent article to explain the term and a quick spot check of 3-4 articles found none of this mention the word tragedy at all. Without any context or sourcing, this should be deleted. Sources don't discuss video games, manga or anime as being in a "tragedy" genre. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 15:57, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. I don't see the connection to "tragedy" either from my browsing through the category content. [[User:Marvin The Paranoid|A really paranoid android]] ([[User talk:Marvin The Paranoid|talk]]) 15:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I see some connections. [[Neon Genesis Evangelion]], for example, is mostly centered on the [[mental illness]]es of its characters and how they affect their own behavior and the fate of their world. Among the problems depicted are [[schizophrenia]], the [[Oedipus complex]], and the [[Electra complex]]. Remember that [[tragedy]] mainly deals with human suffering, and the characters being doomed due to their own [[character flaw]]s and personal mistakes. However, we need third-party sources to determine genre, not our own research. [[User:Dimadick|Dimadick]] ([[User talk:Dimadick|talk]]) 13:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Completely arbitrary. —[[User:Xezbeth|Xezbeth]] ([[User talk:Xezbeth|talk]]) 11:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Tragedy video games ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Tragedy video games}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Newly created category that was populated with several games. I reverted these additions as its essentially unsourced for all of them. There no main article or term within the video game area of "Tragedy video game". It's not a genre. -- [[User:Ferret|ferret]] ([[User_talk:Ferret|talk]]) 15:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. By the sourcing, this is not a "[[Wikipedia:Defining|defining]]" genre/trait of video games. <span style="background:#F3F3F3; padding:3px 9px 4px">[[User talk:Czar|<span style='font:bold small-caps 1.2em sans-serif;color:#871E8D'>czar</span>]]</span> 10:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per above --[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 01:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': {{ping|ferret}} your judgment was probably right, but it would have been more helpful for CFD participants – and less work for you – to leave the pages in the category pending the discussion. Meanwhile, they can presumably be traced via [[Special:Contributions/Chcu1297]]. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color: #FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 12:48, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per Czar's points. [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''Talk'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''Contribs'']]) 20:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Ror ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Ror}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' I just can't see this caste category going anywhere. All it contains is the article about the caste itself, and that is very poor. [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 14:12, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:'''Support'''. I'd even go as far as supporting a proposal for deleting the article itself. [[User:Marvin The Paranoid|A really paranoid android]] ([[User talk:Marvin The Paranoid|talk]]) 15:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
==== Category:Christianity in Pakistan by administrative unit ==== ▼
:*'''support''' per nom. The article itself has sufficient cats at the moment --[[User:Lenticel|<span style="color: teal; font-weight: bold">Lenticel</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lenticel|<span style="color: green; font-weight: bold">talk</span>]])</sup> 01:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''Talk'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''Contribs'']]) 20:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''Merge'''. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|Talk]]) 23:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Christianity in Pakistan by administrative unit]] to [[:Category:Christianity in Pakistan]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''upmerge''', there is no need for a container category layer like this in a country that has a small Christian minority who are mainly concentrated in one administrative unit (namely Punjab). [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 07:16, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' a pedantic, slavish adherence to established tree structures should be avoided. Sensible interventions like this are to be preferred. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 10:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
==== Category:Prince-Bishops of the Holy Roman Empire ====▼
*'''Support''' not justified in this case, as the nominator reasons. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 14:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' we do not need a category like this to hold one subcategory.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 03:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 March 9%23Category:Prince-Bishops of the Holy Roman Empire]]<!-- Template:Cfd relisted -->
==== Category:Festivals in Former Yugoslavia ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''relisted''' at [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_4#Category:Festivals_in_Former_Yugoslavia]]. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 05:22, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Festivals in Former Yugoslavia}}<br />
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Electronic music festivals in Former Yugoslavia}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Everything here is already properly categorized as being in Serbia or Bosnia or Croatia or Kosovo or Montenegro as it is, so categorizing them for the country they ''used'' to be in ''alongside'' that is simply redundant and unnecessary. Especially given that some of the entries here didn't start until after Yugoslavia broke up, and were thus never "in Yugoslavia" in the first place. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 05:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' As someone who edits a lot of ex-Yugoslavian articles, I don't think it's redundant at all, and I think it would be helpful to have a category which distinguishes Yugoslavia from the modern-day countries. The problem with these categories is they include a lot of events which didn't actually take place in Yugoslavia. Perhaps a bot could de-categorise every event that began after the 1990s instead? [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 06:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
* '''Merge and rename respectively''' to [[:Category:Festivals in Yugoslavia]] and [[:Category:Electronic music festivals in Yugoslavia]]. We do not add "former" to former countries' categories. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
:* And agree with SportingFlyer that the category requires some purging. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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