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The result was '''delete'''. Without prejudice for recreation as a section of the article on Bluth or [[WP:USERFY|userfying]] if requested for further research and improvement. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

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Due to the heavy reliance on a random collection of images hosted on imgur and a wiki page from TV Tropes, I can't tell if the things in this article are even real or if it's [[WP:NFT]]. [[User:Axem Titanium|Axem Titanium]] ([[User talk:Axem Titanium|talk]]) 21:49, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

* I just think we need to collect better citations/references for this page. Some of the films have suitable citations/references, but it is in dire need of more.[[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 22:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

*'''Delete''': GameSpot and Polygon aren't exactly the gold standard of sourcing but they're the most reliable citations we've got in this article. If all the content which references [[WP:UNRELIABLE|unreliable]] sources such as Imgur and TVTropes is removed, we're left with so little content it might as well be redirected to [[Don Bluth]]. A [[WP:DYNAMITE|dynamite]] case methinks. '''<span style="font-family: Arial">[[User:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: red">SITH</span>]] [[User talk:StraussInTheHouse|<span style="color: blue">(talk)</span>]]</span>''' 22:02, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

*'''Keep''': I think if we just try to surf the web, gather better sources and citations, we can improve the page. We shouldn't give up. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 22:33, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

*:*I appreciate that you feel personally invested in improving this article, but I suggest you take a good long look at [[WP:RS]] for what qualifies as reliable. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don_Bluth%27s_unrealized_projects&type=revision&diff=886699001&oldid=886690282 Adding unreliable sources] to the article isn't going to change anyone's mind, or improve the article. I also agree with SITH's suggestion that you start by making a well referenced section on the topic in the article on [[Don Bluth]] rather than jumping straight to a separate article that needs to meet independent notability requirements. [[User:Axem Titanium|Axem Titanium]] ([[User talk:Axem Titanium|talk]]) 23:15, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Film|list of Film-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]^{[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]} 22:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)</small>

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Lists|list of Lists-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]^{[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]} 22:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)</small>

*'''Delete''' Even if this were better sourced, it's overly detailed listcruft (yet missing the details of how far into the production phase these actually got and if it is actually worth mentioning) that is better summarized in the main article. [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]^{[[User talk:Reywas92|'''Talk''']]} 23:24, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

*<s>'''Keep'''</s>: I gathered better sources with production information. All I need to do is reword segments to fit Wikipedia's guidlines and add in new production information. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 23:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

*:*Do not vote twice. Struck duplicate. [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]^{[[User talk:Reywas92|'''Talk''']]} 00:41, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

*Anyway, I gathered better sources with production information. I also reword segments to satisfy Wikipedia's guidlines and added in new production information. You can check it, maybe even add to my repairs. [[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 0001:3739, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

:*I do not consider these sources to be "better" or more reliable. Some of them do not support the sentences they are supposed to be referencing ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Don_Bluth%27s_unrealized_projects&diff=prev&oldid=886702402 e.g. the NYT source]). Others are trivial mentions that do not assert notability. Still others are citations to other wikis or circularly cited to Wikipedia itself. Once again, I encourage you to make a "Unproduced projects" section on [[Don Bluth]] and incubate this topic there until it warrants a separate article. It's clear that forking it to its own page is not making it easy for others to collaborate to find high quality sources to support the topic. [[User:Axem Titanium|Axem Titanium]] ([[User talk:Axem Titanium|talk]]) 02:44, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

::*Ok, fine, then help me gather better sources. Assist in finding sources for the page, instead of giving up, going for the easy route by deleting every imperfect page. Find ''reliable'' sources for the page.[[User:Cardei012597|Cardei012597]] ([[User talk:Cardei012597|talk]]) 07:12, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

:::*I have given you an out in the form of a section within [[Don Bluth]]. I'm even happy to let an admin [[WP:USERFY]] this page in case there's something worth keeping here. You and I and we all should be looking for an affirmative reason why this article should exist. If there is none, then it should be deleted. [[User:Axem Titanium|Axem Titanium]] ([[User talk:Axem Titanium|talk]]) 19:41, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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