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==== Category:Lists of United States Supreme Court cases by volume ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''keep'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 10:22, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Lists of United States Supreme Court cases by volume}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Entirely redundant to [[Lists of United States Supreme Court cases by volume]], unneeded as a category. [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 23:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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::* We'd better containerize the parent category. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 14:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per [[WP:NOTDUP]]. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 20:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:I'm a Celebrity... (UK) contestants ====
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==== Category:People of Finland Swedish descent ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:40, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:People of Finland Swedish descent]] to [[:Category:People of Finnish descent]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:British people of Finland Swedish descent]] to [[:Category:British people of Finnish descent]]
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:Some individuals and some families remain closely immersed in one part of that heritage, others much less so. This can happen even within one generation.
:So the question is how much of this vast kaleidescope of complexity Wikipedia tries to capture in its category system.
:Ten years ago, I would have been inclined to be answer "as much a possible". But I no longer think that approach is sustainable. Too few of our articles capture enough of the complexity of ethnicity and identity to allow meaningful categorisation. The binary nature of categorisation doesn't capture the vast difference between someone whose ancestors assimilated three centuries ago and someone whose family maintained the old ways until a generation ago — in categorisation policy terms, we are looking at an attribute whose [[WP:DEFININGNESSDEFINING]]ness can be anywhere from 0% to 100%, and often unclear.
:So I conclude that the category system is just to crude to do a decent enough job on on this to make such categories any more than a poorly-sourced, woefully incomplete, ill-defined and disastrously un-nuanced mishmash.
:Of course, theses issue should be discussed within the article, subject to all the usual policies: [[WP:V]], [[WP:RS]], [[WP:WEIGHT]] etc. But this is one of the jobs which the category system can't manage. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 20:11, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' There are some ethnic overalp categories that are defining and clear, like Scoth-Irish, but not this one.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 22:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. While the Swedish-speaking minority of Finland is a notable minority and ethnicity, this precision is irrelevant for a descent category. Individual people for which the Swedish, or Finn-Swedish background, is important according to reliable sources specific to them may deserve a double inclusion in an ethnic-based category and a Finnish-descent category, but carving out the entire group in a specific subtree is trivial. [[User:Place Clichy|Place Clichy]] ([[User talk:Place Clichy|talk]]) 09:46, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Paramus Catholic High School alumni ====
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==== Category:Sinhalese script ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename'''. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 00:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Sinhalese script]] to [[:Category:Sinhala script]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Match the category name with the [[Sinhala language]] and [[Sinhala script]] articles. [[User:Danielklein|Danielklein]] ([[User talk:Danielklein|talk]]) 03:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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